We have been hoping for a turn-around at Newcastle since we beat Spurs at home on December 21st, when Duff scored in the last minute. But since then we’ve gone 17 games with just one win, and today we suffered yet another defeat – without too much resistance – this time to Spurs at White Hart Lane.
To say we’re disappointed and saddened by today’s performance in London is just a massive under-statement, and it’s going to take us some time for us to realize, we’re probably not good enough now to survive this season.
But, hey, of course there’s always hope – which we have all kept alive for 40 blooming years, since we last won something, back in 1969.
One of the many frustrating things about this is we are not seeing any spirit at all from the players, and over the last three months, if they had shown just half the spirit that Stoke City players have shown, who are on way less than half their wages, then we wouldn’t be where we are.
We don’t mind the lads getting beat – if they show some spirit and fight, but when they don’t – and that’s completely unacceptable.
We’ll try to keep the party-line going, that it’s still possible to stay up, but after this showing today, we don’t believe it, and not only that, but we deserve to be relegated. Any team that can win once in 17 games deserves to go down, it’s as easy as that. Let’s hope we can win a few game sin the Championship next season.
If any Newcastle fans don’t want to hear that – hard cheese – because it’s the truth – and you know it – we are a team that deserves to go down – based on our performances this season.
How a squad who are the 3rd or 4th highest paid squad in the Premier League can be second-bottom of the league with 30 points and only 5 games to go – one of which we’ll lose big at Liverpool, is beyond us.
There have been a lot of mistakes made at the club this season, but the first and most important one, was to let Kevin Keegan go and at the same time support that 5′6″ cockney Dennis Wise, who doesn’t know one thing about Newcastle United, other than they pay good wages.
But even after that comedy of errors, we still think it’s the players who are principally responsible for the nightmare scenario we will reach completion on, when the last day of the season, May 24th, rolls around – relegation from the Premier league will be ours, for the first time ever form the Premier league.
The 17 th richest club in the world will be relegated – what an utter disgrace to a once very proud club.
Yes, no doubt Alan will come out and say it’s still possible to survive, and mathematically of course he is right, but since Joe Kinnear had his heart problems on February 7th, and not counting the WBA win, we have 3 draws in our last 8 games – which is diabolical and absolutely pathetic – we hope we are making our point clear.
If the players don’t feel ashamed of themselves – they should do.
And now we are in all likelihood going down, we will look to get Coloccini, Enrique, Geremi, Barton, Duff, Gutierrez Viduka, Owen, Martins, Smith and Xisco to move out in the summer. Who of those will we really miss? Not too many, that’s for sure, and yet we pay close to £30M a year in wages to that lot. We’ll not miss a single one of those players and Shearer, if he stays on, can start from scratch with a new squad.
And what has Ignacio Gonzalez from Uruguay done for us this season – warmed the injury room every day and that’s about it – what a complete waste of money for the club.
We had wanted to say before now, that we were losing hope before this game, but decided to hang on a little. But what we’ve seen in the last several games from the players, is that they just haven’t got the spirit that’s needed to get results when it really matters, and when the chips are down, like right now.
Today’s performance for us, was the last straw, and we have taken just 3 points from our last 8 league games, we should be able to get that number of points from 90 minutes and one game, for heaven’s sake.
No guts, no spirit, no goals and no points, just about sums up the game today.
Before we end this piece- which is about as positive as Newcastle were today – about the actual game today – we conceded a goal after just 23 minutes and Darren Bent scored the only goal Spurs had to score to get all 3 points.
But up to that point the defense had looked wide open, with just three at the back, and Harper could and probably should have done better, when he could only block the initial shot, although it was a good stop. But once the goal went in, we questioned whether the lads had the spirit to mount a fight-back – they hadn’t and didn’t.
But there again our players have never shown any guts or glory up to this point of the season – so why start now?
My dear father will be turning in his grave at the performances of our lot this afternoon.
So sad – to see good clubs go bad.
157 responses so far ↓
1 Gunners // Apr 19, 2009 at 4:15 PM
There is no need to target Ignacio Gonzalez, who is he anyway? The rest of the squad should just learn to pass the ball, make proper short passes instead of pumping the ball upfront.
2 Shanghaitoon // Apr 19, 2009 at 4:19 PM
Very Sad. It’s really not looking good now, but as a Geordie – I have to have hope.. its all that is left!!
3 Orion // Apr 19, 2009 at 4:21 PM
Well Said mate!
I beleive some good things will come out of playing in the championship, no more high expectation from fans, the media circus that follows newcastle will hopefully sod off at last, and our overpaid “superstars” will get kicked out the door.
Perhaps for Newcastle we have to start afresh, and getting rid of most of our squad and starting afresh can help, our manager can then build us a team around his tactics, rather than using what previous managers have bought and trying to manage with what he had.
Thankfully there will be no more of this bullshit big club crap because we deserve to go down. The amount of injuries Newcastle gets is just stupid, the players must be faking some. Our transfers this past decade are beyond a joke, more money than sense i say. No use being a rich club if you spend all your money on vegetables instead of players.
Either way i’ll still support Newcastle, even though they probably will give me a heart attack one of these days.
4 TheToonKing // Apr 19, 2009 at 4:22 PM
Were down and out with this loss……horrible….we won’t be coming back up either anytime soon..
5 beyethegreat // Apr 19, 2009 at 4:23 PM
gunners
ignacio gonzales is a loan signing from valencia but hes ahrdly played
howay the toon we can escape
6 Ashley Hole // Apr 19, 2009 at 4:24 PM
Coca-Cola Championship 2009-2010 season, who stays, who leave, who Championship players we should try to buy?
Players:
—————–Harper—Krul————————-
Beye——–S Taylor—– Kadar—– Edgar———
?????——–?????—–?????——- ?????————
R -Taylor–Gutherie—– Butt—– ?????————
LuaLua—–Godsmark—–????—– ????———–
—————–Ranger—Carroll———————-
—————–Ameobi– ?????———————-
7 Toon Chicken // Apr 19, 2009 at 4:25 PM
What a load of negative clap-trap. Save that crap for the end of the season please, if and when we are relegated. For now we must all stand loud and proud, together as one glorious Geordie nation! We MUST believe we can stay up and, until it is mathematically impossible, I ALWAYS will!!
Howay the lads!
8 Kanusti // Apr 19, 2009 at 4:26 PM
only 1 man to blame for whis season and whis is MA.
9 Ed Harrison // Apr 19, 2009 at 4:29 PM
Toon Chicken – don’t expect any apology from me – I mean every single word of what I wrote. The players are a disgrace to this club – period – full stop. I stand by my clap -trap – as you put it – they’re hopeless with no guts – that’s the truth. Yes we can still stay up – but not with gutless performances like this one. This is a reality check – and it may not sound good – but it’s the absolute truth – as we said we are not singing the party line any more
10 beyethegreat // Apr 19, 2009 at 4:29 PM
kanutsi
lets not play the blame game at the minute lets concentrate on survival
11 beyethegreat // Apr 19, 2009 at 4:31 PM
ed
i disagree i believe they worked very hard today
besides even if we do go down the club will live on
12 imdogk9 // Apr 19, 2009 at 4:31 PM
I’m sorry but judging on today’s performance we have no chance on staying up, the players looked if they didn’t care, no fight, no spirit, no technique, no tactics.
If we play Butt next year I’m afraid we will never get promoted back
13 Rodzilla // Apr 19, 2009 at 4:31 PM
…quiet in here
14 blip // Apr 19, 2009 at 4:33 PM
@Ashley Hole –
I think you’re being optimistic if you think Beye will stay for Championship football. He’s one of the top RB in the League.
Anyway, bad result today. I wasn’t expecting anymore than a draw though so, realistically, it’s 1 point lost rather than 3. We’ll see soon how vital that point may/may not be.
I now have no idea if we’ll stay up, but as far as I’m concerned the home games are still the important ones – no change there today.
I just hope that criticism of Shearer is withheld. 3-5-2 initially may have beena mistake, but his subs so far in all games have been influential and well-timed. More than could ever be said for Kinnear and Hughton. He changes things when they need to be changed and is short of decent players to work with.
Let’s just make sure everyone’s right behind the team for Pompey!
15 tripp // Apr 19, 2009 at 4:33 PM
Sod this lot. This whole season has been a complete cluster. The staff and players have been rubbish… but that’s football. We have some decent players, but too many of them can’t be arsed. You don’t win football matches at this level with no passion… I can’t see us staying up, lads. Just can’t see it. If I’m honest, it may be for the best. We will unload a lot of dross and this will give the hungry, up and comers a chance to prove themselves.
16 simon376 // Apr 19, 2009 at 4:34 PM
Ed, I agree with you, there wasn’t much fight at all from them. I’m honest enough to say the better side won on the day, but I expect more fight from our boys. We need 110% from every player every game now. I just hope they realise whats at stake and pull their socks up
17 Geordiedoonsooth // Apr 19, 2009 at 4:34 PM
Ed well said I watched the game in a social club in Yateley Hampshire near were I live amongst a load of Spurs, Chelsea, Arsenal & Man U supporters. I was for the 1st timje in years embarressed to be a Toon fan. two words come to mind Clueless & Guttless. Apart from Steven Taylor who went off injured at half time the rest of the w*nkers who wore black & white should be throughly ashamed of themselves. I would rather play the kids in the lats 5 games 7 get hammered than play the f*ckin w*nkers who played today. As you can probably realise I’m rather upset. WHAT A LOAD OF SH*TS we have playing for us
18 blip // Apr 19, 2009 at 4:37 PM
Also, mis-cued shot aside, was anyone else pleasantly surprised by Smithy?
His passing put Butt’s to shame. Not that that’s hard.
19 Geordiedoonsooth // Apr 19, 2009 at 4:37 PM
ED agreed I watched the game in a clube near were I live in hants with ab ucnh of spurs supporters. All I can say is I was embarressed to be aGEordiue for the 1st time since I moved south 29 years ago. APart form Steven Taylor the rest can F*uck off in the summer I’d rather play the kids for the last 5 games
20 stk85 // Apr 19, 2009 at 4:38 PM
sad. despite everything that has gone on this season you would expect professional footballers on 30k a week to beable to pass a ball, regardless of who their trainer or coach is. i did not understand why as soon as spurs had the ball, we back off, let them come at us, pointed at spaces where others should be, what the feck lads!!!! that was absolutely disgraceful, u have the guts to serve up that drivel.
alan wont let them get away with that.
if we do go down, my team for next season:
krul
beye s.taylor kadar tavenier
lualua guthrie vuckic adjei
ranger carroll
at least they’ll show some balls.
ryan taylor is a shambles
21 tripp // Apr 19, 2009 at 4:38 PM
The problem is that at this point things are out of our control. Yes, we can and have to win matches, but that may or may not be enough. We’re completely dependent on other results for survival, barring some sort of great escape. There have been some, to be sure, but our players don’t see to have the heart, and it takes heart, to pull off such a feat.
22 Geordiedoonsooth // Apr 19, 2009 at 4:39 PM
We deserve to go down we are complete sh*te & will struggle in the championship f*ck it I’m going to take up watching swimming
23 jimiley // Apr 19, 2009 at 4:40 PM
The person responsible for this mess is MA. A Spud fan. He looked happy in the stands today.
He gives the club no money to buy players.
He pockets the transfer surplus.
We are in relegation trouble so he decides to sell in Jan two of our best players (including the best goalie in the league) and replaces them with Nolan and Taylor. Enough said.
He sacks KK.
He appoints a sick passed it manager
He leaves Hughton in charge for too long.
He asks Shearer to do an impossible job with 8 games left. You were mad to take it on Alan.
Worst of all, he sacks KK to keep Wise and then SIX MONTHS later he sacks Wise. A Fred Carno circus of a club and owner. I despise the man.
Keep the faith. We are going down but we shall return fitter and stronger. ASHLEY has to go and we all have to make sure he is unwelcome on Tyneside. He has destroyed the club in two years. What was that about challenging Man u in three? Difficult in the fizzy league Mr Ashley!!!!!
24 brownrob // Apr 19, 2009 at 4:41 PM
As I have said before… We have got progressively worse ever since Sir Bobby was unjustly sacked and Freddy Shepherd spent money he didnt have on a big ego trip
I just feel for Sir Bobby as he has terminal cancer and has to see us go down. I hope he is around long enough to see us bounce back up again.
25 Geordiedoonsooth // Apr 19, 2009 at 4:41 PM
WE ARE DOOMED and desreve to be relegated. What a load of crap, spurs didn’t even have top play well we wouldn’t ahve beaten a sunday league team
26 Toon Chicken // Apr 19, 2009 at 4:42 PM
It really wasn’t that bad Ed. We got beat by a better team – simple as that.
I did the Premiership Predictor on the beeb website before Shearer’s first game and I had us down to get 2 points from the first 3 games and stay up with 40 points. We’re 1 point off that right now – hardly the end of the world.
If we win our home games we will almost certainly stay up. All those games are against much worse teams than Spurs. I still believe, if a few others start thinking the same way it could make a big difference.
27 brownrob // Apr 19, 2009 at 4:43 PM
While I agree with some things you say… he has hardly “pocketed” the profits on Zog and Given… seeing that we made a loss of £20m this year or something to that effect
28 brownrob // Apr 19, 2009 at 4:44 PM
Oh and is it just me who gets a headache when we lose… the cat better watch itself or it could get a boot to the head!!!
29 jimiley // Apr 19, 2009 at 4:45 PM
Ed,
I believe the players tried. They did not surrender. The problem is that they are crap. NUFC manager does not know what he is doing. Sadly. He is still a hero. Changing formations Always playing Butt. Bringing on Smith when we need a goal etc etc.
30 jimmymag // Apr 19, 2009 at 4:46 PM
I don’t think we “surrendered” at all, we were just outclassed by a far better team, confident and in form. And for someone to suggest that we deserve to go down and that it might do some good, well we don’t need “supporters” like you!
The hard work starts next week when we play Pompey in our first real must win match of the campaign. Keep the faith we can still do it!
HOWAY THE LADS!
31 simon376 // Apr 19, 2009 at 4:47 PM
I know now isnt really the time to be blaming anybody, but I’d love to know where all the big Ashley fans are right now.
As for making a loss this year, we never made a loss under the old ownership. I know our last chairman did many major things wrong, but when I used to get the accounts sent to me, we were always in profit. Strange the way things work out under such a ‘clever’ buisnesman
32 stobbo // Apr 19, 2009 at 4:50 PM
The worst thing about going down – FFS is going to love it. MA has made mistakes, no doubt about it, but I don’t think he deserves the abuse he gets here & elsewhere. The sales of Milner, Given and N’Zogbia did for us this season and MA and DW have to take some of the blame for that, but ultimately the buck stops with the 14 on the pitch for us today.
33 Alanmc09 // Apr 19, 2009 at 4:51 PM
Hail mary,
Full of grace.
The lord is with thee,blessed art thou amongst women and blessed is the fruit of thui womb jesus.
Holy mary mother of god pray for our sinners now and at the hour of our death.
AMEN.
34 Doocey // Apr 19, 2009 at 4:52 PM
We had a chance. Martins.
And a goal disallowed as well for a handball that he couldn’t do anything about.
We are in serious, serious trouble and this is the first time I’ve said that.
I still have hope that 3 wins could save us, but just.
35 AmericanToon // Apr 19, 2009 at 4:53 PM
Despite the loss I think that the last 30 minutes were very good and we should be fine on staying up. The biggest key of the game was Martins not getting too banged up after that missed chance.
I honestly think that if we can train hard for the next 8 days and start against Pompey with:
-Harper-
Beye – Bassong – Taylor – Enrique
Duff – Barton – Jonas
Owen
Martins – Viduka
We should pummel Pompey, stand a good chance for either a 1-0 loss at Liverpool, take out Fulham and Boro and maybe even nick 1 or even all 3 at Villa.
It’s dire, but it’s not over. There is a lot to look forward to and having 8 days for Barton, Viduka, Enrique and Martins to get fitter is a huge plus.
We’re not down yet. Let’s try and keep the faith.
36 Toon Chicken // Apr 19, 2009 at 4:53 PM
simon – in profit, maybe but we still had crippling debts. I dread to think what would have happened if FFS had lead us into this credit crunch.
37 Doocey // Apr 19, 2009 at 4:53 PM
jimmymag // Apr 19, 2009 at 4:46 PM
I don’t think we “surrendered” at all, we were just outclassed by a far better team, confident and in form. And for someone to suggest that we deserve to go down and that it might do some good, well we don’t need “supporters” like you!
The hard work starts next week when we play Pompey in our first real must win match of the campaign. Keep the faith we can still do it!
HOWAY THE LADS!
Well said.
38 Wigaz // Apr 19, 2009 at 4:55 PM
Ed 100% agree with you mate. What stuns me though is the attitude of the players. They just dont seem to care! Owen didn’t look interested at all like he’s already given up. I’m so sick of people saying how “Good” Jonas is too. How good can you be if yoy have NO end product? Butt was shocking today in comparrison to Huddlestone who can barely get in the spurs team, what other team would give butt as much game time? We have been on the slide for years now but this season we’re an absolute shambles! we simply dont deserve to be in the premiership. I hate to say it but it’s true. Our squad is not prem quality & we have suffered for that. I just hope Al can take us up next season. Or better yet keep us up this.
39 darrowb1 // Apr 19, 2009 at 4:55 PM
We didnt look that bad when we were playig our formation which KK had adopted for us the 4-3-3 with viduka martins and owen up front.
If we do go down then we should try to keep hold of bassong,beye,jonas and maybe enrique becuase all of these players have soon that they could be good for the club. All the rest of the high paid people can go
40 PaceOba // Apr 19, 2009 at 4:56 PM
We will stay up. We lose with pride! Even we can’t except this result, the win will be come soon. I’m begging, think positive everybody, our patient will paid-off then.
41 brownrob // Apr 19, 2009 at 4:57 PM
I have to finish a music composition for tomorrow and the result isnt helping hehe!
Gah!
42 PaceOba // Apr 19, 2009 at 4:57 PM
Click my link, take all the problems away from our mind set.
43 Rodzilla // Apr 19, 2009 at 4:57 PM
To be honest, I really don’t think we ’surrendered’. To look at their starting 11 (at home) against our 11 before the game – there was only ever gona be one result. They had the more superior team, on paper AND grass.
We were 1 goal off a point. It ain’t that bad. Their team is better than ours. Fact.
Unfortunately, their board is too. They obviously have much better hearing. The alarm bells have been ringing at SJP for 3-4 years now.
We can still nick something out of this I’m sure. Call me an unrealistic tw@t (don’t bother) but I’m still with the team until and IF we get relegated.
It’d be interesting to see how many people are still whinging if we go down. It appears some fans need bad results to stir passion.
…wake me up on May 25th
44 darrowb1 // Apr 19, 2009 at 4:58 PM
Also guys one positive is that the results didnt do that bad for us becuase as someone said before the fixtures of hull sand boro are against them while we have easier games. Also the game against Villa could easily be a win as villa may have nothing to play for and stick out a weaker team as they may have wrpapped up 5th place or completely lost it
45 JonnyNufc // Apr 19, 2009 at 4:58 PM
Wake the f*ck up lads.
We can win our 3 home games and still get relegated by other sides with us getting realistic results against eachother.
A loss = low confidence yet again. This has destroyed the team all season, not once have they stepped up. If they cant for a draw, you think they can for a loss?
We’re done now. Our central midfield are absolute sh*t. Nicky Butt & nolan are single handedly relegating us. Barton and guthrie are our only hope left.
Even now, we are relying on other results.
There is a 90% chance we are down this season. Thats reality.
46 JonnyNufc // Apr 19, 2009 at 4:59 PM
wake up, we’re done.
Win our 3 home games & we can still realistically be relegated if those around us get half decent results.
Its most likely over already.
47 brownrob // Apr 19, 2009 at 5:02 PM
To be honest… Hull dont have any winnable games
Liverpool (h)
Villa (a)
Stoke (h)
Bolton (a)
Man U (h)
Boro are
Arsenal (a)
Man U (h)
Newcastle (a)
Villa (h)
West Ham (a)
Portsmouth are pretty safe, but they will want to make sure against us
48 aahmadhu // Apr 19, 2009 at 5:03 PM
easy pals. we were expected to lose this game anyway. we were terrible on the road so we didn’t have that much hope in white heart lane, to be honest. what’s more important is to concentrate on our home games. we are yet to meet opponents other than chelsea at home under Shearer. so heads up.
49 JonnyNufc // Apr 19, 2009 at 5:10 PM
Hull can easily beat stoke & bolton. By the time they play them neither side will likely have anything to play for & both will be safe already.
We’re also talking about the final weeks of the season, when results are always strange anyway.
Cannot rule any of them out, its actually more than likely they will get results before the end of the season. Look at west broms spirit today.
50 Tooony // Apr 19, 2009 at 5:10 PM
Can someone remind me how many goals has our midfielders scored this season and how many assists they have got?
51 stobbo // Apr 19, 2009 at 5:12 PM
>>If we do go down then we should try to keep hold of bassong,beye,jonas and maybe enrique
I salute your optimism.
brownrob – you talk a lot of sense. I also wonder what SBR makes of this.
Maybe if we do go down Dennis Wise’s wheeling and dealing in the youth market will be vindicated. I don’t particularly like the bloke, but that has nothing to do with his height or his origins (Ed!).
52 dougnufc // Apr 19, 2009 at 5:12 PM
goodnight guys, its 12 here. what a crappy way to end my holiday.
got school tmr and exams soon, so wouldn’t come here too often.
53 daffy // Apr 19, 2009 at 5:14 PM
lads this game is prob the nail in ya coffin , after only winning 6 all season cant see ya winning at least 3 poss 4 out of the last 5 games . its curtains for the toon.
54 ToonRy // Apr 19, 2009 at 5:15 PM
What the hell has happened to our team? Well maybe we’ll win something next year the Championship
http://www.points2shop.com/index.php?ref=uin1239397779
55 boater // Apr 19, 2009 at 5:17 PM
Ed… I couldn’t disagree more…
It’s so lazy talking about lack of spirit and motivation. That’s absolutely absurd… the players are nervous and over-motivated if anything- lacking in confidence, shape and cohesion.
If we can keep the front three fit and play that system – bombarding forwards in our last 3 home games we may be ok.
I have been arguing constantly about having Geremi back in the side… I know you will all have a go at that but when he plays he puts in good balls.. he is slow and clumsy but he was in the side that we should be looking to replicate from the end of last season. Geremi must be put back in for the set-pieces… how bad was R. Taylor and guti today? Nolan anonymous…
Still a slither oh hope with martins and viduka in the side…. but jeez I am fading fast…
BALLS to those who are suggesting relegation as anything other than unmitigated disaster and the end of the line for NuFC.
56 Rodzilla // Apr 19, 2009 at 5:20 PM
dougnufc, good luck in yer exams mate!
…what I can’t get mi heed rund is people saying it’s all over/we’re doomed etc….
….does this mean they’ll not bother following NUFC for the rest of the season as it’s ‘already written’.
…the type of ‘fans’ that would get their dog put down because it has a limp.
FFS
57 stobbo // Apr 19, 2009 at 5:27 PM
Rodzilla – I don’t think anyone is saying that.
Simon376 – at least 100m debt cleared, according to most sources. Are you serious?
58 NicoGF // Apr 19, 2009 at 5:28 PM
Ed Harrison. I don’t like it when you blame Nacho Gonzalez.
First of all because if he hasn’t played it’s not because he didn’t want to.. I’m sure he dies for playing and saving this disgraceful club .. and bare it in mind.. you know why? Because he is the only one who CAN really DO SO.. he has what it takes to save this club. Save my words. You just need him to make the pitch. He will get 3 points any time. There is no way out.. as I already told you in my e-mails.. your midfielders are pathetic.
59 Cooper // Apr 19, 2009 at 5:36 PM
Whats this kid on like ? ^^
60 Rodzilla // Apr 19, 2009 at 5:39 PM
NicoGF
I have heard good on Nacho, but the fact remains he’s been a really bad bit of business for the club. Personally I’d love to see him play, but ot doesn’t look too likely now.
stobbo, there are many on this blog that only ever write about our misfortunes. Negativity can stretch it’s dirty talons over quite an area – it’s a self-fulfilling prophecy.
It just does my head in when people attempt to predict the future with nowt but black clouds. Believe in gloom and it’s what you’ll get. I’m here for the long haul.
HOWAY THE LADS!
61 Ben_BKK // Apr 19, 2009 at 5:41 PM
Gonzalez’s c*ck by the looks of things
62 Rodzilla // Apr 19, 2009 at 5:42 PM
Cooper, he’s probli a Valencia fan
63 North Atlantic Magpie // Apr 19, 2009 at 5:42 PM
Martins and Beye getting injured earlier this season is why we are in this mess
64 Jan Stavik // Apr 19, 2009 at 5:43 PM
Leave Harper and Butt out next game, those two are really poor players at this level.
The funny thing is that Toon actually have a fair chance of staying up even if they’ve been cr@p for months now…
How Butt can still be playing after being sent away on loan 3 seasons ago I really don’t get. He’s far worse now then what he was those days…
65 Cooper // Apr 19, 2009 at 5:45 PM
If we can beat any team at home then its pompey. They, like us really are not a very good team.
But remember we give it a good go against man u and arsenal, had the lead against man u and should have had the lead against arsenal.
So if we can get a win against pompey that should give us a much needed confidence boost to go on and pickup further points in the games remaining.
Its not quite over yet, teams have got out of worse situations, but if we dont win against portsmouth its well and truly 99% goodbye to the prem.
66 North Atlantic Magpie // Apr 19, 2009 at 5:46 PM
Butt can’t pass the ball!!
67 Rodzilla // Apr 19, 2009 at 5:49 PM
North Atlantic Magpie
…add Barton, Viduka, Xisco, Duff, Gutierrez, Guthrie, Owen and Taylor to that list
68 PaceOba // Apr 19, 2009 at 5:49 PM
Poor Nacho, what he can do right? He not think been caught an injury earlier like that. I don’t know why people always blame him? He’s an international player, profesional too, he know what he should do, like the manager put trust at what is he capable of.
69 workyticket // Apr 19, 2009 at 5:51 PM
Rodzilla // Apr 19, 2009 at 5:42 PM
“Cooper, he’s probli a Valencia fan”
So am I Rod and I can see his point with our dearth of creativity in c. midfield. Ed’s post match bairn’s wobbla was unfair on poor old Nacho.
70 PaceOba // Apr 19, 2009 at 5:54 PM
Butt=worse player=bad passes=bad holding player too
71 G 2 // Apr 19, 2009 at 5:55 PM
I have said all season that Butt should not be anywhere near the first team, he slows our play down and when he gets it he gives it away. His job is to protect the back 4, well he doesn’t even do that. Complete waste.
Play the youth or pray Barton comes back.
72 jonny // Apr 19, 2009 at 5:59 PM
bolloks to those who say we are relegated, what happened to those (including you ed), who said support the club til the end of the season then if we are relegated protest then. should be ashamed of yourselves. we are a good team at home, portsmouth have just lost niko kranjcar and while it may be unlikely, the game is winnable. keep the support levels up til the end of the season or you are just as bad as ashley in my opinion. CMON THE TOON!
73 BT9MAG // Apr 19, 2009 at 6:00 PM
Rodzilla I genuinely wasn’t expecting much from this game, BUT, we need 3 wins at least to survive – can’t see us getting them, therefore I think we’re going down…
Regardless, I live in Belfast now but will still proudly wear my shirt when we’re in the championship – get to games when I get a chance, follow there every move on blogs and forums like this.
B@llocks to the current squad, f@ck the current board, I love the club in good times and bad, whether or not I’m pessimistic or not!
74 Hugh de Payen // Apr 19, 2009 at 6:05 PM
jonny, nobody is saying they won’t support the team and hope for Premiership survival, but we have to make a realistic assessment of our chances too, and it doesn’t look too good right now.
Personally, I think we’ll get 7-9 more points from here. 9 *might* just be enough.
75 PaceOba // Apr 19, 2009 at 6:07 PM
jonny
Your right! I’m with you, whatever will happen the club always in my heart!
76 Macas // Apr 19, 2009 at 6:07 PM
We’re crap and we’re going down. No creativity means no goals. The January transfer buys were catastrophic when we needed real quality in the team. Ashley is totally clueless and was advised by the wrong people, instead of footballing legends like Keegan.
77 ben-nufc // Apr 19, 2009 at 6:07 PM
im sorry but those who are slagging of jonas are wrong he seemed like the only one who actually put any effot in 2day.
i have previously defended ryan taylor and 1st thought he was a good buy very versitille and more signings like him would steer us clear but now i see y he is versitille and thats because theres no position in our team which cant be done better by a different player and we probebly only bort him so he wouldnt score against us again which now seems irrelevent as we may nt be playing them next yr.
nicky butt has a range of passing only my nan could be proud of and vidukas just the laziest player seen in black and white. now dont even get me started on alan smith because im sick of it now
owens not intrested well besides his pay packet
martins turns up when he feels like it and duff well i hav no idea whats happend to duff since blackburn
rant over
78 Tom4Nufc // Apr 19, 2009 at 6:08 PM
I love the Toon so much, its what I live for… But I am bloody depressed, and feel like my life is over!
I am sorry if it offends anyone for being so negative, but we cant get out of this…. Why did that have to happen to US? The best bloody supporters in the bloody WORLD…. Its bollocks the lot of it, The players, The board, The Management (Apart from Shearer and Money)… Ok Dowie might be a good coach, but he hasnt ever kept a team up in the Premier League has he?
Sorry, but this is as I have said Bollocks, and ridiculous, and stupid, and every other crappy word that describes this situation. You guys are all amazing in your belief…. I love the club, its the biggest part of my life, but we are gone and down… Thats it Lads and Ladesses, I am sorry.
79 ben-nufc // Apr 19, 2009 at 6:09 PM
and yet i will follow newcastle through thick and thin i must be puddled
80 giimps // Apr 19, 2009 at 6:10 PM
I for one will be shouting encouragement till i`m blue in the face, I have booked my tickets to scouseland and villa so will be at every game now till the end of the season, screaming and shouting ,singing and cajoleing the boys.
At this time ,its not negativity we need its support and encouragement, BOLLOX to all who say its too late, UP YOURS to all who say “were already down “, as long as there is a chance, as long as theres still hope, we need to show the lads we have not given up, and hopefully we can get one piece of luck, a penalty, an opposition player being sent off, a goal of someones ass, anything………..then this can ben the catalyst to our redemption, I dont believe any team “deserves to go down” especially not us, do MANURE deserve to go down for being 700 million pound in debt? or chelski ,do West ham deserve to go down for fielding inelligible players? or stoke and hull for battering the opposition all season or wigan for allowing Cattermole on the pitch after he`s already broken 3 players legs this season? Nobody deserves to go down, but 3 teams will, our jobs as fans is to give as much support and belief as possible to whichever 11 players are out there and whoever is in charge……..theres no point in doom mongering its rose tinted glasses needed not a welders mask, prey to anyone …3 points on monday and a whole new light shines again, WE MUST BELIEVE AND SUPPORT !!!!
81 daffy // Apr 19, 2009 at 6:10 PM
lads dont think its easy to get out of the championship , look at leeds , forrest , charlton , leicester etc
82 Rodzilla // Apr 19, 2009 at 6:12 PM
BT9MAG
….fair enough mate, but in the wise words of David Soul:
Don’t give up on us, Baby
Lord knows we’ve come this far
Can’t we stay the way we are?
The angel and the dreamer
Who sometimes play a fool
Don’t give up on us, I know
We can still come through……
83 stobbo // Apr 19, 2009 at 6:15 PM
There were times this season when Butt was our best player. I have to be honest though, I followed the game on the radio, so I can’t really comment on his contribution today. I don’t think it helps when AS says publicly that we don’t have a fit LB. Better at this stage of the season to put Edgar or R Taylor in that position and play a conventional 4-4-2. Still, as I said before, the players have to do it for you. It doesn’t help when they don’t know their job, but they are professional footballers and well paid for it.
I haven’t given up hope and I have nothing but contempt for those fans who get on the players’ backs at this time, but you know full well that most of the first team are talking to their agents 24/7 right now.
84 beardsleyschin // Apr 19, 2009 at 6:16 PM
I hope the fans that booed bobby’s 5th place finnish a few years ago are feelin ashamed of themselves now
85 daffy // Apr 19, 2009 at 6:17 PM
the writing was on the wall wen keegan left , its been a mess ever since.
86 Rodzilla // Apr 19, 2009 at 6:20 PM
giimps // Apr 19, 2009 at 6:10 PM
…I hear yer fella!
KEEP THE (maybe blind but WTF) FAITH!!!!!!!!!
87 batty // Apr 19, 2009 at 6:21 PM
we are in this mess because we sold some decent midfeilders in emre millner and zogs and brought in shite r taylor and nolan what a bunch of crap
88 Rodzilla // Apr 19, 2009 at 6:22 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlfhIo4QeAg
…GO ON HUTCH!!!
89 Dragonera // Apr 19, 2009 at 6:23 PM
batty
I’m with you on Taylor, he is sh*t. Nolan needs a pre-season and kick up the arse, but you don’t turn crap overnight.
90 daffy // Apr 19, 2009 at 6:23 PM
always look on the bright side of life.
91 batty // Apr 19, 2009 at 6:26 PM
life a peice ov shit when you look at it
92 HarryWorth // Apr 19, 2009 at 6:27 PM
Ed says “but since Joe Kinnear had his heart problems on February 7th, and not counting the WBA win, we have 3 draws in our last 8 games – which is diabolical and absolutely pathetic”
Not counting the WBA win Kinnear only won 4 games out of 24 so no making out that the reason we are knee deep in the brown stuff is because he is on sick leave. Kinnear was and is a useless manager.
The whole Ashley set up has been a joke from the beginning and us NUFC fans have been let down and lied to consistently since the fat man bought the club.
Gullible people (such as yourself Ed -nothing personal by the way), have been convinced every tranfer window that Ashley will splash out £20 million + to buy players for the club when it was obvious that he was stashing away every penny that he possibly could into his back pocket by selling our better players and replacing them with cheap dross. He will continue to do this whilst the gullible continue to give him their money.
Our only hope isfor the fat man to sell up, otherwise there will be thousands of empty seats in the ground next season .
93 batty // Apr 19, 2009 at 6:28 PM
Dragonera they can whe they come to the toon m8
94 Macas // Apr 19, 2009 at 6:28 PM
After all the crap Milner used to get on these boards he’s far better than any other midfielder we have
95 Rodzilla // Apr 19, 2009 at 6:30 PM
..we’re goal shy shy, hush hush, eye to eye
96 komfort // Apr 19, 2009 at 6:36 PM
a lad i work with is the double of m.ashley…think i’ll give him a good ploating tomorrow for the hell of it..
97 mcvicar // Apr 19, 2009 at 6:38 PM
we have to believe we can stay up whats the point in just giving up i was gutted we lost but its not over yet and i thought the subs done realy well but r taylor isnt looking like a good player and how long before lua lua gets back
98 boater // Apr 19, 2009 at 6:40 PM
Batty…. I laugh when I see you talking about losing Milner, Zog and Emre…. none of those consistently delivered remember … arguably Milner NEVER delivered… it’s rose tinted glasses there mate….
you don’t mention missing Dyer and Nobby? Those players made us tick for several years and provided the midfield ammunition to get us into CL places twice running…
BEN NUFC????? What price is Jonas’ energy with NO end product???? There was one opportunity in the last minute of the first half for him to slide it through to an unmarked owen in the box… he was falling over but seems so uncoordinated – and tunnel visioned this season he is costing us precious points.
99 Rodzilla // Apr 19, 2009 at 6:42 PM
…had 10 quid on Manure to win on penalties from KO at 9/1.
Berbatov, you fkn USELESS TW@T!!!!!!
AAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
bollocks
WWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!
100 geordie deb // Apr 19, 2009 at 6:42 PM
beardsleyschin
‘I hope the fans that booed bobby’s 5th place finnish a few years ago are feelin ashamed of themselves now’
Agree with you.
101 boater // Apr 19, 2009 at 6:43 PM
We are missing Barton… simple as that… him making the first team unfailingly coincides with good runs for the side. I know that’s pretty much a given but wanted to say it anyways.
Smith looked OK today… a breath of fresh air in the midfield and actually found the forwards with his passing… miracle after watching butt, taylor, nolan and guti toil for 45 mins.
102 geordie deb // Apr 19, 2009 at 6:55 PM
As far as I’m concerned I will think positively and pray for us to stay up until or if it’s proved that mathematically we won’t. If the worst comes to the worst well so be it. Plenty of us have followed them through worse times than this (yes there have been some) but while the players/mangement/owners change, it’s us the fans who need to be constant to show our support no matter what division we are in or how good or bad we are playing. We are still Newcastle United and need to stay that way to help rebuild this club. Poor SBR having to endure this as his final memories of his club.
103 Rodzilla // Apr 19, 2009 at 6:55 PM
beardsleyschin
‘I hope the fans that booed bobby’s 5th place finnish a few years ago are feelin ashamed of themselves now’
…I very much doubt they will. Shameful nonetheless.
Solano and Shearer were so important for us it’s bordering on the ridiculous. Stick them both in a Championship (1st Division) side 4 years ago and it’d warrant automatic promotion.
104 Shot Bru // Apr 19, 2009 at 6:57 PM
We played much better in the last 20 minutes when Viduka and Martins came on. Why on earth Shearer plays 3 at the back is anyones guess as we got caned down the wings, especially against Lennon and Corluka. Our midfield plays on top of our defence, and was so slow in coming out giving the spurs midfield plenty time on the ball. Can anyone tell me how Nolan or R. Taylor get in the team ahead of Guthrie. I think our best option is to play 433 and concentrate on our attacking options which is our strength. We were always gonna struggle to get anything from a really good spurs team, like i’ve said before next weeks game against Pompey is the biggest game since the last time we played them to survive relegation from Div 2 in 1992. We can still stay up as we’re only 4 points off safety with 3 winable home games and a potential draw away to Villa.
105 Doocey // Apr 19, 2009 at 6:58 PM
Well done Everton
106 simon376 // Apr 19, 2009 at 7:03 PM
To be honest, I dont think Harper did much wrong today. He made a good save for the goal, Duff should have then got to the ball to knock it out for a corner
As for those who say we miss Barton, what has he ver done for us? Hardly played, either been injured or inside and even spent time slagging the fans off. At City he may have been good, but done nowt since he came to us.
107 phoonck // Apr 19, 2009 at 7:05 PM
OWEN’s a liability, my grandma’s ball control is way much better. i think all he did in the match was receiving the ball from a mate, make a turn or run a couple of steps, stop and make a back pass by flicking his right boot outwards to a mate nearby. BUTT’s legs can’t carry him around the pitch like they once used to for 90mins anymore. DUFF can only dribble in circles when attacking, and ball-watching when defending (the BENT’s goal was mainly his fault, he was behind BENT and saw him going into the box with spurs attacking from centre to right-centre, yet DUFF was drifting further and further away from BENT..). SMITH was a headless chicken, but passed way better than BUTT and OWEN.. was NOLAN ever present ever since his move from bolton? gee, he never seem to produce the form he’s been producing for years at bolton. R.TAYLOR’s deliveries from set pieces were never the same standards compared to his wigan’s days. why o why? why do players, with good reputations or skills, came here and turned to absolute sh*t overnight?!
without MARTINS, we were never a threat, he had a total of 3 chances within 5mins since coming on (OWEN has none for the whole of 1st half and 15mins of the 2nd half.). JONAS was the only one trying to attack at them, almost single-handedly in the 1st 45mins. shame that VIDUKA had to be injured for most of the season, look at his ball control, strength in holding on to the ball and his vision for an incisive pass. BASSONG and BEYE were the pillars in our defence, yet they were let down much by the midfielders.
if according to SHEARER’s formation, 3-4-3, i would have gone for:
HARPER
BEYE S.TAYLOR BASSONG
R.TAYLOR GUTHRIE(nolan) COLOCINI JONAS
MARTINS CARROLL(viduka) RANGER(duff)
108 Shot Bru // Apr 19, 2009 at 7:06 PM
Totally agree simon about Barton but he can’t be any worse than Nolan and Butt.
109 Rodzilla // Apr 19, 2009 at 7:07 PM
simon376, fill me in on Barton slagging the fans off – I can’t remember that one.
110 simon376 // Apr 19, 2009 at 7:12 PM
I agree that he may well be better thanNolan & Butt mind.
Rodzilla, it was last season, he had a go about the fans being weak and not behind the club when they were having ago at Big Sam.
111 Craigg // Apr 19, 2009 at 7:15 PM
How does relegation look likely come on lads we have got Portsmouth, Fulham and Boro at home still whereas Hull have a point or two left in the season we may only need to win a couple and still stay up on goal difference.
We will be alright we have played 3 of if not the 3 form sides in the league in a row,
The fightback starts now.
112 simon376 // Apr 19, 2009 at 7:15 PM
I think his coment was ‘the fans are viscous’ Something I found funny when he gets locked up for GBH
113 Soren // Apr 19, 2009 at 7:15 PM
Lets not paint the devil on the wall, please. Yes our performance today wasn’t particularly encouraging, but we couldn’t expect to get anything from WHL this year as we’ve done the last couple of years. We have no confidence and Spurs have a great home record with Harry. Will agree with the lot of you who are slagging Butt, Nolan and R. Taylor for a poor game today. All three did nothing and continuously lost or wasted away possession. But lets forget this game and look for the MUST WIN game on Monday, and if we don’t get 3 points on Monday, then by all means proceed with all the doom mongering, because then I would too be truly afraid of the big R. But until that happens, I will forever remain positive and believe that we can stay up!
Howay the Lads!
114 geordie deb // Apr 19, 2009 at 7:15 PM
simon 376
‘As for those who say we miss Barton, what has he ver done for us? Hardly played, either been injured or inside and even spent time slagging the fans off. At City he may have been good, but done nowt since he came to us.’
In my opinion he was right what he said about some of our fans getting on the players backs. Some of our fans are a disgrace heckling and booing our players – no wonder many good players lose their form when they come to SJP -they’re terrified of making a mistake. I think what he said was right but many people can’t face the truth – we are not always the best fans in the world – far from it at times. rant over
115 JJJ // Apr 19, 2009 at 7:16 PM
beardsleyschin
Im still waiting for Owen to show me how world class he is and to score the goals that will save us from this league…
There are a few players we NEED to drop if we are to stand any chance of saving face for the rest of the season:
DROP OWEN
DROP BUTT
DROP R TAYLOR
Lovenkrans is far more effective than Owen is…
Oba again looked far more dangerous than Owen did even playing a third of the game.
And we desperately need Enrique back in defense.
————————-Harper————————–
Beye————Edgar———Bassong——Enrique
————–Guthrie—-Barton—–Jonas————
————Martins—Viduka—Lovenkrans———
If EVERYONE is fit that should be our team, and perhaps I’d play Owen in the last 20 minutes when the defenders are mentally and physically tired from chasing the pacey Loven and Oba…
Carroll can replace Viduka at for the last 30 minutes…
And Nolan can replace Barton (only because he’s not match fit) for the final 20minutes…
With this team selection, we would finally have someone up front who can hold up the ball…
Two pace strikers to support him that can actually carry the ball and take on defenders…
A midfield that is capable of passing and defending…
Two wing backs that can cross decently and get forward and defend decently.
And two centre backs who seldom let us down…
Duff could replace Enrique at LB is he is still injured – he does ok there…
116 DevonMag // Apr 19, 2009 at 7:17 PM
Man alive, the negativity on this blog is horrendous. I never thought id see the day when Ed gave in to blind pessimism either! Today WAS NOT a must win game and we lost ONE NILL. It wasnt exactly a routing, and it’s not the end of the season. Get anything but wins from pompey and borough however, and we are officially doomed.
117 daffy // Apr 19, 2009 at 7:17 PM
shot bru – 3 winable games? they are all winable but youve only managed bloody 6 all season get a grip man , ya gannin doon.
118 JJJ // Apr 19, 2009 at 7:18 PM
Morale of the story – does Shearer have the balls to drop England “mates” OWEN AND BUTT who are just no good…
(I really really wouldnt want them to play for us even in the first division) – they both inspire poor long ball football… and neither has a creative bone or ounce of flair in their body…
119 DevonMag // Apr 19, 2009 at 7:20 PM
And we DO miss barton, what I’ve seen from him this season turned my opinion of him around completely, he is class. The only real bite in midfield, composed, strong and he CAN pick a pass- the goal he set up for martins against villa at SJP anyone? The biggest loss to our team if we go down will be Barton, gutted we didn’t get to see more of him this season.
120 Rodzilla // Apr 19, 2009 at 7:21 PM
I’d see that as more of a rally call mate. He’d be right to be frustrated, as we always seem to be.
Admittedly he hasn’t done much since Sam signed him, but injuries and his fkn idiotic public display leading to a jail term hasn’t really helped.
In my eyes he’s done his time and wants to prove himself in our relegation (maybe bad choice of word) fight.
I honestly think he’d be a top player for NUFC, and he’s learnt the error of his ways.
We need him for the Portsmouth game.
121 simon376 // Apr 19, 2009 at 7:22 PM
Deb
I am toatlly against booing players, we should be behind anybody who puts on the shirt. Drives me mad when people boo Shola. he may be far from the best, but he’s out there doing it and had the bottle to step up ant take pens when need be. It was just all that coming from Barton, he had just come to the club and lets face it, was already on a final warning then. That was the thing that really got me. So when people say how much we miss Barton, I’d like to have seen him do someting for us to miss
122 LyNx@18 // Apr 19, 2009 at 7:23 PM
I f we continue to play the “cripple’ Butt, we’ll end up relegated (perhaps 80% relegated already). This idiot dun seems to know how to play a simple football cant pass (i suspect if he’s blind) even me can pass a decent ball than him, cant tackle, cant run into spaces and even dun know how to control/receive ball from team mates..his performance in this match just make me pissed off! Please, STOP STOP use him again in our midfield, he’s ONE BIG NEGATIVE EFFECTS IN NEWCASTLE UNITED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
123 Ross // Apr 19, 2009 at 7:23 PM
a few observations on the days game
-why do we need to go 1 nil down for anyone to even begin to kick into gear?
-Upon reflection its canny safe to say our january transfer business was nowt more than rubbish. Both Nolan and Ryan Taylor have been canny shocking, the latter even moreso as far as im concerned. (set pieces today were abysmal)
-Martins and Viduka changed the game for us when coming on, thats saying something as i doubt both were 100% fit.
-The same can be said for Alan Smith, i thought he was neat and tidy when he slotted into the middle if im honest, and didnt do anything wrong.
Alot of people saying we have winnable home games, wnich we do. However, where the home form is going to come from, i dont know considering we’ve only won 4 home games all season. We need those 9 points and then to nick a draw away like. We reach 39/40 points and there’s still a canny good chance it will be goal difference that sends us down or keeps us up. Hopefully the latter as our GD is decent.
124 Ericles // Apr 19, 2009 at 7:25 PM
I agree with Ed. Most of our players are gutless has-beens who have no loyalty to Toon or the fans. Todays performance was proof of that. Why play the likes of Nolan, Ryan Taylor or Butt? What was the daft idea of putting Smith on the pitch? Only martins tried to liven things up. In the end it is fat Ashley’s fault from the moment he brought in Wise and forced keegan out. We can still stay up but it means all home wins and some draws away. Has that fact sunk in the dressing room?
125 simon376 // Apr 19, 2009 at 7:26 PM
Maybe your right Rodzilla, if he does come back for the next game on, I’d love him to prove me wrong. I just hope he has changed. I felt sorry for him at the Sunderland game. he was warming up not too far in front of me, he may have wound people up with the badge kiss, but action should have been taken by the yobs chucking stuff at him. I know he’s a big man and can stand up for himself, but throwing stuff was out of order, but the police did nowt
126 JJJ // Apr 19, 2009 at 7:28 PM
Devon Mag – I agree – we were in all likely hood going to lose today…
Just like in all likelihood we will lose to Liverpool and away to Villa.
Which means we HAVE TO win all of our home games…
And that my friend is very unlikely considering we just dont look like scoring a goal – although I honestly think it IS possible if we make the changes I suggested above…
127 apanzhafran // Apr 19, 2009 at 7:28 PM
we can win if butt nolan and ryan taylor is not playing, simply because they gave the ball away so easily pretty too much and distrupts the flow of attacking especially BUTT! wtf is that he backtrack but never mark the player and his the reason to blame for the first goal, see the replay u get what i mean
128 chuck // Apr 19, 2009 at 7:30 PM
Looks bad, but what do you expect, a team @ it`s lowest ebb, with a manager who is clutching @ straws by changing both lineups and team shape, not to mention playing people out of position, what a joke.
Fact is Ashley either directly or indirectly is responsible for turning a fair team into a crap team, there are those who will defend him sure,
but in the end the buck stops at his desk.
By hiring the wrong people from KK through Shearer, has beens and possibly never will be`s . Also by giving someone he plucked out of a gambling casino the everyday running of the 17th. largest football club in the world , beggars belief.
All of the above combined with a total distain for the fans, manifested by totally ignoring them other than to try and elicit a few extra quid for next seasons seats, must have fired the PR department as we have heard FA from them.
Of course the selling of our best players and replacing them with cheap crap players was another brilliant move.
I realised when Shay left how bad things had become, a loyal servant of the club who previously had no intention of leaving, could`nt wait to get out, sad.
Where do we go from here, probably be relegated, spend a while in the wilderness and hope someone comes up with the bucks to buy the club, because unless we get rid of this guy, who has`nt a clue, its same old same old.
129 Nick D // Apr 19, 2009 at 7:31 PM
I desperately want Shearer to succeed but he has to get ruthless and drop his mates (Butt, Duff and Owen)
People say don’t play the kids. Well after watching Butt, Nolan, R taylor and Smith, why the hell not ???
At least they would have a go with a bit of energy and hunger and would probably be able to pass and move the ball to a person in the same colours.
Butt was finished 3 years ago when he took Brum down !!! Nolan has cost us 14.5M in fee and wages !!!! These 2 have to be the worst midfield combo in the premiership. They can’t pass, they can’t run, they are a complete liability time after time.
The combined stupidity of Shepherd, Sounness , Roeder, Allardyce and Kinnear and now Ashley & Llambias have rubberstamped and overseen us assemble the most mediocre and over the hill, unmotivated and obscenely overpaid squad imagineable
The most crimes against us in putting together this shambles of paid bunch of has – beens, sicknotes and dross was done by Allardyce.
But what have we got to lose now by putting out Ranger, Lua lua, Vuksic, krul and Adjei.
Surely even people like Toon factor can see enough is enough. The old guard have had their day, they’re here for their final pay cheque and we are the idiots who subsidise them. Well no more. Bring on the kids.
130 JJJ // Apr 19, 2009 at 7:32 PM
Ross,, your quite right…
Everyone complains about Smiths scoring record but when he has played he has played as a defensive midfielder in 70% of the games… so who should he be scoring…
He is a much better player than Butt or Nolan (who I once rated highly) and if Barton isnt fit should be playing in a three man midfield alongside Guthrie and Jonas…
131 Shot Bru // Apr 19, 2009 at 7:35 PM
Daffy we get enrique back and barton in the middle and play the same system as the last 20 mins of todays game, we have a chance to win those winable home games.
132 Ross // Apr 19, 2009 at 7:40 PM
And as foe those saying we dont miss Barton, are you mental like!?
Nolan and Butt are both useless for one, and Joey actually gives a sh!te. Add that to the fact that he’s a better player than the both of them these days and its obvious whenever fit he will be starting week in, week out.
133 Rodzilla // Apr 19, 2009 at 7:41 PM
All this nasty-talk has got me feeling dirty. I’m donning my gimp mask and off to Disneyland, for my regular 7:45 S&M slot with Minnie Mouse.
AAAAOOOOWWWW
shamone
134 Rodzilla // Apr 19, 2009 at 7:41 PM
…think it was Daffy that got me started
135 JJJ // Apr 19, 2009 at 7:42 PM
Im starting to think Alan Shearer is one of those people who would make a fantastic Assistant manager, with his discipline and coaching of strikers, but just is never going to make it as a manager until he learns from someone who has done it… (Dowie’s experience is not much to speak of)…
But the thing we all love him for and the reason he chose Newcastle above Man U is this time going to be his downfall…
“Pride” – he is too proud to work under someone else because he wants to be the man making the BIG decisions… when is clear he just isnt ready…
Having said that, he couldnt have chosen a worse time or team to take over and anybody would have failed in his position…
Lets hope he learns very quickly, but again, he wont drop Owen and Butt, and really he has to… So where do we find a manager with the guts to do that?
136 daffy // Apr 19, 2009 at 7:47 PM
shot bru , i admire your optimism but its easier on paper than reality , fact is – fulham are 1 of the premiers hardest teams to get a result against – boro are fighting for their lives as are pompey . to expect 9 nine points from these games is unrealistic.
137 JJJ // Apr 19, 2009 at 7:47 PM
Owen – “I didnt sign a new contract because I wanted to stay and help Newcastle fight its way out of this situation…”
JJJ – “Lying little twat… you didnt sign because NOBODY wanted you… and nobody was willing to pay your wages… and you would have actually benefitted to club more had you buggered off and not milked the club for the remainder of your ridiculous wages… If you had any committment or love for the club you would have signed a new deal and showed you had some belief as captain!… but thank goodness you didnt… dickhead!”…
Man I wish Michael read this Blog…
138 Shot Bru // Apr 19, 2009 at 7:52 PM
Daffy we’re also fighting for our lives so anything is possible, and the main thing it’s still in our own hands.
139 JJJ // Apr 19, 2009 at 8:00 PM
Sky player ratings…
Steve Harper
Some good saves. 7
Ryan Taylor
Wasted set-piece opportunities. 5
Habib Beye
Worked hard. 6
Steven Taylor
Replaced at the break. 5
Sebastien Bassong
Solid display. 7
Nicky Butt
Didn’t impress. 5
Kevin Nolan
No impact. 4
Andrew Carroll
Tough game. 5
Michael Owen
Never involved. 4
Jonas Gutierrez
Decent header. 7
Damien Duff
Looked to cause problems. 6
Mark Viduka
(Sub)
Can help Newcastle battle. 7
Alan Smith
(Sub)
Picked up a booking. 6
Obafemi Martins
(Sub)
Caused problems. 7
140 Craigg // Apr 19, 2009 at 8:04 PM
Shearer cannot be blamed for the mess caused by clown like decisions from Ashley.
Al has been over us for 3 games and all have been against bang in-form sides.
He has changed the system as our only natural left back has been injured, Do people remember KK desperately trying to convince our recruitment team to splash out more to bring in Stephen Warnock and was ignored in favour of buying Xisco for £6m.
Do you remember Modric apparently agreeing a contract only to join Spurs after spending a hour in Ashleys company.
Those two players not arriving are the reason our team is in a state, As it was obvious last season that the centre of our midfield lacks quality without Barton.
Enrique getting injured has us up s*it street again as its a straight choice between a square peg in a round hole or change the system.
Its Ashleys fault, Not Keegans, Not Shearers, Not Kinnears, Not even dare i say it Wises’ because Ashlye has the final say on managerial appointments, He gave Wise and Jiminez the power over transfers, He bought a club that was still playing in europe the previous season and had just appointed a then well respected manager and made an absolute mess of it all.
If the worst does happen (Which it wont) then Shearer is in no way to blame, It is all Ashley and the only silver lining to the very dark cloud relegation would bring is to see that fat piece of scum financially crippled.
141 Rodzilla // Apr 19, 2009 at 8:12 PM
….very good post Craigg.
142 geordie deb // Apr 19, 2009 at 8:13 PM
Craigg
While Ashley has contributed massively to the state we are in due to poor decision making, not taking decisive action at the correct time etc etc, relying too heavily on certain ‘advisors’, we’ve got to accept that the rot set in long before he bought the club. We’ve been on a downward spiral for a long time and all FFS flash signings of ‘has beens’ on massive wages at the end of their career along with the complete lack of managerial stability etc etc have also been major contributing factors
143 Rodzilla // Apr 19, 2009 at 8:26 PM
…agree we have been on a downward spiral for a while Deb, but unfortunately over the while we’ve had a sh1t defence with our only possible redemption coming from goals scored.
Over this while we’ve gradually lost (down to sales) our only goal threats from midfield – having an adverse effect on the front two.
So in essence we’re still sh1t at the back, struggling to score without Shearer, but now don’t have anyone decent in the middle either.
…it’s like a big game of NUFC Jenga.
144 Craigg // Apr 19, 2009 at 8:28 PM
geordie deb
Agreed, Shepherds decision making was abysmal as was his pathetic spending spree under Souness to justify the sacking of Bobby.
I do feel Shepherd hindered the club and wrecked any opportunity of sustained champions legue football and title challenges but i never envisaged the current state while he was at the helm as frustrating as he was at times.
The clubs progression and decision making has been dreadful since John Hall and Keegan left in 1997.
145 Doocey // Apr 19, 2009 at 8:31 PM
Can we get the 3 wins at home, what are views fellas?
146 PaceOba // Apr 19, 2009 at 8:32 PM
Yeah very good post Craigg!
147 beardsleyschin // Apr 19, 2009 at 8:35 PM
JJJ- What a surprise you go out of your way to semonstrate how bad Owen is. Fact ..yet again we didnt create chances. …As i’ve said before we need the team to create chances and he gets in my team because he’s our top scorer, give him chances he’ll get goals.You seem to be goin out of your way as much as you can to poison the toon army against him, some support that at the most crucial stage of the season! We need to get behind all the players for the remaining home games otherwise our chances go from 40% chance of survival to 10%….people like you seem to be doin all you can to make things harder, i think your secretly a makem. I agree with americantoons team to face pompey, if vidukas fit he should play:
Harper-
Beye – Bassong – Taylor – Enrique
Duff – Barton – Jonas
Owen
Martins – Viduka
148 Craigg // Apr 19, 2009 at 8:36 PM
I think we will beat Portsmouth and Boro and draw with Fulham and Villa.
=38 points.
Hull:
Liverpool (H) 0 points
Villa (A) 0 points
Stoke (H) 1 point
Bolton (A) 0 points
Man Utd (H)
=35 points
I hope!
149 Craigg // Apr 19, 2009 at 8:39 PM
0 points against Man Utd for Hull BTW
Which you probably could have guessed
150 batty // Apr 19, 2009 at 9:08 PM
Craigg thats what iam thinking m8 6 points could keep us up lol
151 chuck // Apr 19, 2009 at 9:27 PM
When in retrospect the teams of Souness through BSA look good in comparison to the merd team we have ended up with, you have to think who was in charge and what were they thinking.
It will be curious to see what happens come relegation or survival, surely things have to improve as it`s hard to visualise the situation becoming any worse.
152 euanpolo // Apr 19, 2009 at 10:03 PM
I couldn’t disagree with the article more. We still have a great chance, I don’t see Hull or Boro picking up too many more points as they have a really difficult run in compared to us. It will be difficult but I find some of this negativity studpid in the situation we are in. We are nowhere near down. The players haven’t done enough but in the end this season has been ruined by the people who run the club. The instability that has run throughout the season has ruined us. Any team would have crumbled like we have, the only thing we can do now is supportb the team and hope. I also disagree with some of the players listed, particularly Gutierrez, if all our players had given as much as him we would not been in this mess. There is no way you can blame players like Viduka and Gonzalez who have been injured all season, they cannot help injuries. WE WILL STAY UP!
153 euanpolo // Apr 19, 2009 at 10:07 PM
The team has been on a decline and this never would have happened under Shepard. But there are still some good players at the club, but many of them can be too periphral to make a huge affect. I would mark the sale of Scott Parker as when Newcastle United started to go majorly in the wrong direction. We NEED a CM to dominate the midfield. Barton, Nolan etc. are not good enough and Guthrie is still young. I now start to appreciate the Souness and Roeder eras more.
154 HarryWorth // Apr 19, 2009 at 10:34 PM
“We are nowhere near down. ”
Lay off the glue mate, we have 5 games to go, we are 4 points adrift, we still have to go to Liverpool and Villa and you think we are nowhere near down.
Mehehehehe!
155 Brutooon // Apr 20, 2009 at 2:00 AM
can u imagine the highlight of the season?
1) NUFC draw at old trafford first game of the season
2) NUFC being relegated
156 Aussie Magpie Fan // Apr 20, 2009 at 2:47 AM
Let’s be honest about things… It wouldn’t matter if Sir Alex was managing this team.. They would still be useless.. The biggest problem right now with NUFC is the culture around the club. Sure you can point fingers at MA and DW but the real problem is the players. I watched the game on FOX last night and after that performance I was accepting of the fact that we will go down this year. No team, no matter who they are can play with the lack of passion that we do and still hope to be in the top flight next year. It seems that when a “good” player signs on with NUFC they see it as a meal ticket to retirement. Big club, big support, big pay packet, little f*cking effort!!. I can see where Ed is coming from in his comments up top. It was like watching men playing boys out on the park. I really hope we get relegated and we can start fresh. Get rid of all the over paid crap that make up the majority of our 1st team and give all the young hungry guy’s waiting in the wings a go. This season has been a culmination of several bad years of on field performances and money wasted on poor player transfers. This is not just MA’s fault.. This is a club that has constantly under performed for as long as I can remember. The last good years we had were under Sir Bobby. I pitty any manger who has to take this lot on and shape into a team that plays for each other and for their shirts.. There is something really wrong in our club and it has been wrong for some time… We seem to tread the same path year after year and things don’t seem to get any better…If we go down, it may be the shake up this club needs to pull their collective heads out of their collective a*ses. TBH I’m not sure if I’m really angry or just depressed?
157 Tom_Toon // Apr 21, 2009 at 1:34 AM
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