Too Many Rules Upset Newcastle’s Senior Players


There are some reports today that Newcastle United’s senior players are unhappy with the rules being handed down by manager Alan Shearer.

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Alan Shearer – too many rules at this stage of the season?
  
The report is in The Sun, so it may just be some mischief they have made up, but there seem threads of truth to the story, since we know Alan is keen on people not being late – for anything..

The rules, which have been written out clearly,  if  broken, carry fines running into the tens of thousands of pounds.  Shearer has imposed an official list of regulations and penalties concerning lateness, but if this is true it does seem an unusual time to be doing this – given our survival in the Premier League is uncertain at best, and there are just 3 games to go.

And Alan has warned his players that anyone who does not follow the rules will be hammered in their pocket — a move which has not won wholehearted support from many of Newcastle’s senior players at the club.

The proverbial inside source, who always seems to be busy at Newcastle over the years said:

“Nobody would disagree that a club needs to be properly organised, with discipline and an order everyone understands.”

“But to start writing down a list of offences that will get you fined at this stage of the season seems strange.”

“It seems counter-productive to do it with so few games left. How many times could a player possibly be late for airport check-in now? It is just getting some people’s backs up.”

“The players want to get Newcastle out of relegation trouble and want a good team spirit but don’t think this is particularly helpful.”

“It is true some have been late on occasions but there are a couple of serial offenders. Some are never late and it looks like they are all being tarred with the same brush.”   

We have to hope this thing will just blow over, because this is the last thing we want to be hearing about right now.

There are also reports this morning that Joey Barton and Alan Shearer had a verbal argument after the game on Sunday, and words were hurled at each other across the dressing room.

We have to hope the team spirit is getting better if anything, and the players aren’t already starting to lay the balme at each other’s feet – or those of the manager – that’s the easy way out of the mess we are in, and will not do any good at this stage.

Comments welcome.


30 comments so far

  • Jamesthefirst

    May 5, 2009 at 10:44 AM

    Comment #1

    Barton and Shearer had a fight in the dressing room at Anfield:

    Joey shouted at Alan that he was the best player at the club, which was why he had to play him.

    ‘Alan said he wasn’t, called him s*** and Joey replied that he was a s*** manager with s*** tactics.

    ‘At that point, it looked like they were going to have a full-scale brawl and had to be dragged apart.

    I’m sure that helped morale in the dressing room….:-(

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  • DanToon

    May 5, 2009 at 10:51 AM

    Comment #2

    Jamesthefirst – That’s most likely a load of bulls**t mate, it is the Sun after all.

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  • korn8

    May 5, 2009 at 10:51 AM

    Comment #3

    Barton is lucky if he ever plays for Newcastle again(doesn`t matter if it`s in the PL or Championship).

    What is wrong with this guy? I think many gave him a new chance – i did! And then he did this against Alonso?

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  • korn8

    May 5, 2009 at 10:52 AM

    Comment #4

    or more important – against his own team mates!!

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  • Stuart79

    May 5, 2009 at 10:55 AM

    Comment #5

    Fckin players should do whatever the manager says!

    The money they earn they should swin in the fckin North sea in January if asked!

    Fckin prima donna tossers!

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  • Geordie-Gerrard7

    May 5, 2009 at 10:55 AM

    Comment #6

    dont anyone dare critisise big al for bringing in discipline, the last few managers havent been respected as they were not well enough disciplined, the only good thing about souness was his hard man stle of managment just like sir alex, and if anyone remembers correctly sir bobby had a same kind of managment as what shearer has adopted, fair play to the man

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  • zsolam

    May 5, 2009 at 10:57 AM

    Comment #7

    Regarding Barton I think he should be out of NUFC. Nobody allowed to talk in this tone to the manager, mostly not to Shearer who had his life in St James’. He’s the trainer whom we need. I hope our players realize it also and will listen to him.

    Talking about the new strict rules Alan has right. This is what I wait from him. Hold the guys strong, expect the max of them on trainings and matches. Our team is professionals, so our players should be also. Keep on Alan, we support you!

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  • DanToon

    May 5, 2009 at 11:00 AM

    Comment #8

    Geordie-Gerrard7
    I agree again, dont anyone dare critisise shearer for bringing in hard discipline. We’ve had 2 many puffy managers letting players walk all over them!

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  • Ericles

    May 5, 2009 at 11:02 AM

    Comment #9

    A load of muck raking by the Sun. If we are going to hit senior players in the pocket it will not be for being late – it should be for playing shite football! Thanks Barton for a lousy way to repay the fans and NUFC. Get out of Toon now!

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  • Jamesthefirst

    May 5, 2009 at 11:03 AM

    Comment #10

    @Dan Toon – I actually heard about it first from a Liverpool fan who said on their blogs one of the Liverpool players heard Barton and Shearer fffing and blinding after the game.

    Nobody knows for sure what was said especially the Sun. But Barton went nuts in the dressing room there is no doubt about that part.

    The really good thing is that Shearer has thrown him out on his ear. Something that other managers were afraid to do.

    Shearer must stay on as Manager regardless of what happens this season. He’s proved he will drop his mates if he has to, that he’s not afraid of any players, and as a manager he will get better and better. Relegation battle will make him much stronger for next season.

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  • DanToon

    May 5, 2009 at 11:10 AM

    Comment #11

    Jamesthefirst – Yeah i agree with you there!

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  • nufcc

    May 5, 2009 at 11:17 AM

    Comment #12

    i was all for giving people chances. i thought joey had what it took but he proved everybody wrong and i for one am happy hes not gonna be around the lads anymore. he is way to selfish to be playing for newcastle.

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  • dannymatt

    May 5, 2009 at 11:19 AM

    Comment #13

    Some senior players are upset? Oh dear, that won’t do. Fined a day’s wages? That’s a bit draconian. You’ll get nowhere treating people like that Mr Shearer. Who on earth do you think you are? The boss?

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  • Vest

    May 5, 2009 at 11:22 AM

    Comment #14

    I think it’s about time we make some rules at this club. The gaffer is in charge, and the players shall obay him. What are the players that are never late upset about? It dosen’t affect them, and they don’t have to wait for the “serial offensers”. The players want to get NUFC out of relegation truble. Obviusly not all of them. They could and should show it on the pitch.

    GOOOOO TOOOOOOON !!!!

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  • WELSHMAG

    May 5, 2009 at 11:37 AM

    Comment #15

    OMG!!! I can’t believe I’m actually going to have adhere to some rules, we’ve had it so god for so long and now Mr shearer is going to ruin it all. boooohoooooo.

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  • punk skunk...

    May 5, 2009 at 11:59 AM

    Comment #16

    Well said Welshmag!..

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  • workyticket

    May 5, 2009 at 12:36 PM

    Comment #17

    This story is obviously complete and utter b*llocks, yet some people are so gullible that they actually beleive it. Winding up Geordies is the easiest thing in world.

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  • Kevin Nichol

    May 5, 2009 at 12:37 PM

    Comment #18

    …Carroll)

    Let’s build again and make sure that the players know there place and concentrate on football….not on hollywod lifestyles and drinking around the town…

    Barton?????? We have to move this lad on; nothing but trouble

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  • Michael12

    May 5, 2009 at 12:38 PM

    Comment #19

    This is looking more Like Souness.

    What we need from any manager is organisation. We have not had this from Shearer certainly on the field.

    Vs Liverpool we changed formation three times during the game, Vs Tottenham we did so four times and at one point we had a 4-2-4 when Viduka and Martins came on.

    Guys please, on this evidence it is as clear as day. We all agree the team is not organised?

    Imagine a choir. We have basses, tenors, sopranos and altos. If you do not give then the same hymn sheet but simply to ask them to sing they will all sing something different and the chances of them singing the same song will be slim at best.

    It is simply about time you saw this. Can anyone honestly say that we are more organised, look better going forward (Threatening) or look likely to command a game under Shearer then under Kinnear, can anyone honestly say that?

    Look, I am not looking to provoke anyone. If you have a counter argument to support your thinking then explain it without name calling.

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  • Michael12

    May 5, 2009 at 12:49 PM

    Comment #20

    @James the first. Is it really a good thing. In this modern day of football. Players can trip up their managers simply out of spite.

    Gallas threatened to score an own goal. Part of management is to make them think they right. You support and sympathise but you as a manager know it is his fault and it was Barton’s fault there is no doubting that.

    We all know what Graeme Souness was like. “Disciplinarianism” to the strictest letter has no place because you cannot force respect out of anyone. Shearer is hardly old enough to be Joey Barton’s dad so shouting matches will only bring about hate relationship between Shearer and Barton and also Barton sympathisers i.e. Other players will also hate Shearer because of his persecution of their friend.

    I think we can agree we need Barton batting for us in but now if this story is true:

    A: if we select him, he will look to trip Shearer up as this is his only way of getting back at Shearer.
    B: He is not an option because benching him is Shearer’s only personal weapons for disciplinary action.

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  • stk85

    May 5, 2009 at 1:07 PM

    Comment #21

    bartons a lowlife scum. sorry mate, you had your chances and you’re not even apologetic. bye, you tosser. sums up nufc last 2 years.

    also, as for ppl who say shearer isn’t the man coz of his tactics, i can see your point, but he is trying to make a team out of has-beens and a squad assembled under various managers with no planning. yes it would help if we stick to one formation and one set of tactics with a backup or two, changing gameplan mid-game is a bit ridiculous. seen about ten different formations and line ups since shearers been incharge. to be fair to him, he gives ppl a chance (owen, nolan etc) and when they give a howler, it has to be changed to suit whoever comes in.
    Shearer can only learn from his experiences. i’d now like to see us strick with him for ten years, regardless. we never ever give managers the time they require at nufc, admitedly coz they’ve all be rubbish since sir bobby left. but the one constant of a good team is a permanent manager. no one knows this club better than shearer, besides possibly keegan, but that ship has sailed. cheers kev for spitting your dummy.

    as for rules, if i’m late for work by even ten mins, i dont get that hours wages, at least. its called having a job, and with a job comes discipline. if anyone is upset with rules, it surely sums up the cretins we have representing nufc.

    bunch of wasters. rant over

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  • G 2

    May 5, 2009 at 1:44 PM

    Comment #22

    All the players are shit bar Bassong.

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  • workyticket

    May 5, 2009 at 1:54 PM

    Comment #23

    stk85 // May 5, 2009 at 1:07 PM

    “as for rules, if i’m late for work by even ten mins, i dont get that hours wages, at least. its called having a job, and with a job comes discipline. if anyone is upset with rules, it surely sums up the cretins we have representing nufc.

    bunch of wasters. rant over”

    stk, it’s a made up story, there’s no need to call the team you allegedly support “cretins” and “wasters” on the back of it. Next, we’ll probably start booing them, they’ll write a story about that too, and the circus will carry on. We really are such a bunch of idiots.

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  • workyticket

    May 5, 2009 at 2:15 PM

    Comment #24

    Michael12, you have a very good point about Dowie and Shearer’s “tactics”, but the Barton stuff is all pure fantasy.

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  • Michael12

    May 5, 2009 at 2:29 PM

    Comment #25

    @Wokyticket: I agree that it is entirely Barton’s fault and that he should face censure.

    In this Modern game where loyalty is at a premium and when we of all teams need players like Barton fighting for our cause rather than against it.

    It is Shearer’s job to create a relationship with the players to make them your friends not just subordinates. People would take a bullet for a friend but certainly not for your boss.

    They will give you that extra if they like you but will not go a mile more if they do not like you. Imagine working for someone you hate. If they asked you to do overtime or take on an extra responsibility for which will not be included in your remuneration, you would say no. Nothing for nothing. But if your friend is boss and asked this of you, you are more likely to do your friend/boss the favour, no?

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  • harry861

    May 5, 2009 at 3:52 PM

    Comment #26

    Manager is responsible for discipline & I totally agree
    He’s in charge. The only thing I would say Alan quietly take him away from earshot & tell him you will see him in your office first thing on Monday morning. Mr Barton & no more arguments.

    Seeing he was in Liverpool away team dressing room no arguments in front of other team members full stop

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  • workyticket

    May 5, 2009 at 5:03 PM

    Comment #27

    Michael12, you’re right that Barton is a liabilty, but I was referring to all the gutter media stories about Barton, Shearer, “rutting”, “brawling”, and the rest, eg players never showing up for work and being “angry” at being “fined” etc etc.

    Whilst I question the tactics, indeed, the lack of tactics sometimes, the sudden switches in formation etc, I do think that Shearer can be a good “man manager”, and possibly even a great manager one day. I’m just worried about his inexperience right now, and the role that Dowie seems to be playing behind the scenes.

    I’m also worried that Ed and others seem intent on building hopes of some kind of ‘thousand year Reich’ around Shearer at the moment, when he’s only ever said that he’s staying until the end of this season. Alan Shearer is a great hero of mine, but we really need to get rid of these silly shenanigans that we just repeat over and over again.

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  • workyticket

    May 5, 2009 at 5:18 PM

    Comment #28

    ps to my last comment

    At Arsenal there was another huge hero who was just as big as Shearer. A brilliant player who captained England many times. He served his time under an experienced manager, and he was still sacked in his first position as manager of Portsmouth. There was another England legend who had the same problem at Fulham too, his name was Bobby Robson. We shouldn’t make unreasonable expectations of Shearer at this time, lets just get this bloody awful season over with, then do some intelligent, long term thinking at the club for once.

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  • Hugh de Payen

    May 5, 2009 at 10:07 PM

    Comment #29

    Good on Shearer for laying down the rules in my opinion.

    Our overpaid bunch of wasters have had it too easy and turned in crap performances.

    If they start to perform on the pitch maybe the rules can be relaxed a bit.

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  • Tom_Toon

    May 6, 2009 at 1:30 AM

    Comment #30

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