Usual Nonsense Before Big Game – We’re Not Buying It

This week it’s Jonas Gutierrez who has been tipped to come good on Monday night in Monday’s Tyne-Tees derby, which will likely decide which of the two hopeless North-East sides will play in the Championship next season.


Jonas Gutierrez – can Argentine Internal come good?

For each of our games this year, we’ve been led to believe this or that player is red hot in training, or else the squad is confident and up-beat, and in general everything looks good.

Then we go out, play like novices, and usually get beaten.  It’s 6 times in the last 10, and we’ve drawn the other 4, and scored just 4 goals in the process.

So it seems to us that this is too much of a familiar story that Assistant Manager Iain Dowie has praised Jonas this morning, and said his potential will start to show through. We’d be much happier if they all kept quiet but then went out produced on the field, for a change.  We’re not being negative, just realistic based on past events. 

The Argentine winger has not been too prominent since Alan Shearer took charge of Newcastle United oin April Fool’s Day, and has started just two of the last five games, but has not been a regular starter, in a struggling side, to say the least.

When Shearer took over he said he wanted Gutierrez to play a more traditional and attacking role on the wing, but we haven’t seen too much of that, and the team has struggled as much as ever in the last 5 games, with just 2 points and one goal – a hopless record at this stage of the season.

But of course there’s always good news before each game and today Dowie says the Argentine’s true potential will come through big time, now that he has recovered from some of his niggling injuries.

Iain said today:

“Jonas has been unlucky with some injuries. He’s had little knocks – he had a little knock before Liverpool, for example,”

“There’s certainly no problem with him – he’s part of it. He’s a very important player, he can play all over the pitch and we’ll certainly be thinking about him for Monday.”

“He’s had a little bit of injury since we took over so we’ve maybe not seen the best of him. But in bits and pieces when he’s come on he’s been excellent.”

“We’ve protected him from the injuries and hopefully he’ll be able to do it on Monday for us now.”   

Maybe we are sick of the hype surrounding the club right now, before every game, but we’ve heard all this before, and until the players put in a decent shift, which has been eons since they did that, we’ll take all this with a rather large pinch of salt.

We’re now 3 points from safety with 9 points to play for, and are odds-on to be relegated. With just 4 points from the last 30 we’ve played for, that’s not too surprising.

We are not paid to pamper the players – but we understand Alan and Iain seemingly have to do alot of  that, to get our over-paid and over-pampered players to put in a decent shift each game.

We’ve seen nothing in the last 10 games to suggest we’ll win easily on Monday night, against a poor Middlesbrough side, so we’re not buying all this stuff, not any longer, and make no mistake we put the responsibility for our plight at the feet of our players – and nobody else.

We will hold our powder dry until we see how our players react and play on Monday night, and we need a win and nothing less will be good enough – but how many times have we said that and then been badly let down this season?

Too many times, that’s for sure. But maybe it will be different on Monday night.

Does this sound like Deja vu – all over again?

Comments welcome.

20 comments so far

  • broon ale

    May 8, 2009 at 10:54 AM

    Comment #1

    i dont quite understand why you have described this as “usual nonsense”??!!

    dowie is clearly making a public confidence booster to jonas.

    no harm in that.


    May 8, 2009 at 10:54 AM

    Comment #2

    I’m absolutely not intereset in who it will be that gives us the goals which lead to the win! I’m only interested that this soldier squad realise how big this my beloved club is!!! Do it!!

    This is a call to all the faithful geordie-fans:

    Scream and be right behind our team! I know they propably didn’t deserve it in the past – but now they need us and we need them to do it! Al-togheter in this, do it!

  • lesh

    May 8, 2009 at 11:01 AM

    Comment #3

    Doesn’t it occur to those who praise individuals that doing so is putting pressure on them?

    Fans’ expectations are raised, players underperform against those expectations and splat…… disappointment and silence or moans which in turn demotivates the players.

    Ed’s right in my book, keep it all in house and just tell the players to get out on the pitch, do what they’re good at and more particularly, relax and enjoy the game!

    It’d make a remarkable difference…..

  • Jamesthefirst

    May 8, 2009 at 11:01 AM

    Comment #4

    Ironically the game that will probably resolve our fate is one we are not involved in….HULL vs STOKE tomorrow.

    Come on Stoke, do the Geordies a huge favour!

  • DanToon

    May 8, 2009 at 11:06 AM

    Comment #5

    If Hull win then our game is pretty much worthless!

  • Toon Graeme

    May 8, 2009 at 11:11 AM

    Comment #6

    Elfer – I hear you call mate and will do my part.

    I also call on our fans who can make it to SJP to support til the end of the 90 and not get up and go to catch the bus or avoid the traffic. Its part and parcel of going to the match!!

    I do agree with Ed – I have read press articles all season long like this – I only hope that this time what we read becomes fact.

    We need a fighting spririt and performance.

    Time for heros in the balck and white!

  • repo

    May 8, 2009 at 11:12 AM

    Comment #7

    leave guti alone least he gets stuck in unlike other players that dont and he’s the only player that can make a tackle in a team..

    i would rather him in the team over smith butt and duff..

  • Toon Graeme

    May 8, 2009 at 11:12 AM

    Comment #8

    I will be following the Stoke Game with a VERY close eye.

    Stoke have to ensure safety and they will go out for the win and I believe they will do it.

  • Waldo P. Barnstormer

    May 8, 2009 at 11:14 AM

    Comment #9

    Yep our fate will be almost sealed by 5pm tomorrow. Really dreading the drive up on Monda 2 1/2 hours thinking about the worst that can happen as I did for Pompey. But I just cant see anyone stepping up to the plate and taking it in to their own hands. Barton was the only player I thought might then he does what Barton does and left the club with no option.

    Its got draw written all over it and we both fall down.

  • Toon Graeme

    May 8, 2009 at 11:19 AM

    Comment #10

    Waldo – I think it will finish up a draw. The stats show that to be the most likely outcome.

    Then again – you just dont know.

  • Waldo P. Barnstormer

    May 8, 2009 at 11:21 AM

    Comment #11

    We need an early goal does’nt matter how the hell it goes in. then hold on till half time and then sink one in the first 10 mins of the second half just to kill off boro

  • bowburnmag

    May 8, 2009 at 11:24 AM

    Comment #12

    Have to say I agree with broon ale. Why are we getting our knickers in a twist? Seems Dowie’s comments merely state reasons for him not being more involved but that they still have confidence in him and he’s a big part of the squad. Surely, the one thing we all agree we’re short on is confidence? So management confirming players are still important at this stage is not a bad thing.
    This seems like the result of a bog standard pre-match question and answer session. The press will write it up and Ed in turn passes it on to us.
    It just seems Ed has gone off on one about “hype” and people are just weighing in. There are plenty of reasons to be miffed and get angry but I wouldn’t say Dowie’s comments is one of them.
    For the record, as toothless as his end product has been, it’s difficult to argue that Guitierrez doesn’t put a hard shift in when he plays.

  • workyticket

    May 8, 2009 at 11:50 AM

    Comment #13

    “We are not paid to pamper the players – but we understand Alan and Iain seemingly have to do alot of that, to get our over-paid and over-pampered players to put in a decent shift each game.”

    Nothing to do with having four managers (and five managerial changes) in one season? Or four formation changes in one game? Or the seemingly endless injuries and team changes? It’s almost impossible to get a team playing as a unit like that.

    I suppose it’s easier just to blame it all on the “pampered” players Ed.

  • geordie deb

    May 8, 2009 at 12:44 PM

    Comment #14

    Morning guys – I agree with Bowburn Mag and Worky’s comments.
    As we’ve all said many times before players have underperformed, confidence is low, they know any errors they make during a game now could have catastrophic consequences, formations changing, players changing, tactics and managers changing, no wonder we are in the situation we find ourselves in.
    We need to focus on staying strong and positive and support the team and stop this nonsense that’s been going on the past few days of having a dig at over pampered players who can’t be bothered to turn up for training, be on time, make an effort etc. We need to stay united and believe these boys can help keep us in the premier league.

  • Sav

    May 8, 2009 at 12:52 PM

    Comment #15

    Personally, I’d rather see Edgar at LB and Duff at Left wing in a 4-4-2. But Al’s the boss. Just hope he gets this one right.
    And , Ed, although like you I’m sick of being BS-ed to, there’s a huge difference between Ashley saying he’s going to put money in for transfers, or that KK had total control of transfers, and the manager giving one or two players a bit of pep before the match. Just take a nip of salt with it and stay cool for the game on Monday. …fingers crossed.

  • chuck

    May 8, 2009 at 8:50 PM

    Comment #16

    Seems the players for the most part are shouldering the blame for recent performances.
    What about the shuffling about and constant changes to the team make up, shape and tactics.
    A team in chaos, playing with fear of losing, with little confidence in their abilities.
    Face it constant criticism and chaotic conditions do little to improve a teams ,confidence is a neccessity to winning .
    While I dont know how many or in fact if any of the squad read these threads,they dont live in a vacume , so lighten up folks .

  • Rodzilla

    May 8, 2009 at 11:36 PM

    Comment #17

    Jonas Gutierrez has his knockers. I’m not one of them.

  • Rodzilla

    May 9, 2009 at 1:30 AM

    Comment #18


  • Tom_Toon

    May 9, 2009 at 8:11 PM

    Comment #19


  • Tom_Toon

    May 9, 2009 at 8:11 PM

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