Newcastle Survival Watch – Hull Lose, WBA Win


The result we really wanted today came about, when Stoke City beat Hull City by 2-1, with Hull scoring in injury time.  However, some other results didn’t exactly go our way.

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But a big surprise today was that WBA won at home 3-1, against a wilting Wigan Athletic side, and are now level on points with Newcastle, so WBA are certainly not dead and buried yet.

Sunderland gained a good draw at Bolton 0-0, and so picked up a valuable point.  The bottom of the table looks like this, after today’s games.

16 Sunderland	  36	-17	36
17 Hull City	  36	-24     34
18 Newcastle      35	-19	31
19 Middlesbrough  35	-26	31
20 WBA	          36	-29	31 

Newcastle can thank former Sunderland player Liam Lawrence for the winning goal for Stoke City, when he blasted home from fully 25 yards, with just 18 minutes remaining at the KC Stadium, to double his side’s advantage after Ricardo Fuller had put the Potters ahead on 41 minutes.

A great goal from a free kick  by Andy Dawson in injury time wasn’t enough, and Stoke are now safe on 42 points, a tremendous piece of management by Tony Pulis.

After today’s games Newcastle United are joint bottom of the league, but a win on Monday night will take us 3 points clear of both Middlesbrough and WBA, and level on points with Hull City, but above them on goal difference.

So we’ll be clear of the drop zone for the first time for quite a while. Of course, almost the exact same thing can be said about Middlesbrough. However the Tees-side club have a worse goal difference by two on Hull right now, so a win by them would need to be by 3 goals to go above Hull after Minday’s game.

Goal difference could still save Newcastle this season.

That 3 points difference could be important, because we also have a better goal difference, so it would take 4 points for both Middlesbough and WBA to overake us – and they would need those in the last two games.

We’d just have to make sure we matched the points of Hull City in the last 2 games to stay up – but this all assumes we can win on Monday evening.

If we cannot beat Middlesbrough it’s sad to say this, but we’ll probably deserve to go down.

But with WBA winning and Sunderland getting a draw, we must win on Monday night and a draw will not be much good to either side.

Hull have again given us a break with another loss, but push comes to shove on Monday night for our players, because and if we cannot win then, we can forget it, as even the WBA club are coming back to life, and we supposedly have much better players (or so we are told).

Fulham beat Aston Villa 3-1 at Craven Cottage, the two teams we still have to meet after Middlesbrough.

Fulham are not as good a team away from home, but they will be difficult to beat nonetheless, but it looks like Aston Villa aren’t nearly as good as they were earlier in the season, and of course we go to Villa Park on the last day of the season, May 24th.

We could get something out of that game, if we need it – and maybe James Milner could score an own goal for us – he was always a good lad. 😀

But the results today will put us in great shape, if only we can win on Monday night.

Comments welcome.


150 comments so far

  • Ashley Hole

    May 9, 2009 at 5:33 PM

    Comment #1

    Now this is in our own hands, take it or….

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  • ObaFan2

    May 9, 2009 at 5:37 PM

    Comment #2

    Yep given a life-line and it’s in our hands on Monday night!

    Don’t blow it fgs……

    of topic.. ‘Pool ahead in second minute lol

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  • Ed Harrison

    May 9, 2009 at 5:50 PM

    Comment #3

    We need a good crowd on Monday night – because a win will also give us the confidence to get points out of the Fulham and Villa games.

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  • Steve_48

    May 9, 2009 at 5:50 PM

    Comment #4

    Just seen Hull supporter neighbour come back from the ground she looks well pissed off, still tough sh*t, every team for themselves time of the season now. We must win and need to go all out attack on Monday night

    Howay the Lads

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  • Steve_48

    May 9, 2009 at 5:52 PM

    Comment #5

    Just wanna say thanks for your efforts this year Ed, I know it must be tying for you.

    Any news on what’s going to happen over the Summer and next season yet?

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  • Big Dave

    May 9, 2009 at 6:04 PM

    Comment #6

    Same here ED as i have said on previous posts i have been on here from it started and will be sorely missed m8 but i understand your reasoning. well it is all down to monday night now if we get a win i think we could even get all 9 points as i think we are just 1 win away from turning it round. I think that has been the biggest stumbling block with our confidence

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  • Alex

    May 9, 2009 at 6:08 PM

    Comment #7

    Bring on monday evening , i have never felt so tense in the run up to any game that we have ever played .
    HOWAY THE LADS
    lets do boro , we are still alive

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  • will die for the toon army

    May 9, 2009 at 6:34 PM

    Comment #8

    Steve we have to first beat relegation, and think of summer. I love Big AL but if he leaves us in the summer he will be a traitor. 3m per year is worth it.

    Remember when King Kev was back we had to wait for our first win and then went on a good run that is what I expect will happen this team we need that confidence that we can win games back.

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  • toonoholic

    May 9, 2009 at 6:37 PM

    Comment #9

    joker kinnear .. where u at u clown ?

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  • Steve_48

    May 9, 2009 at 6:41 PM

    Comment #10

    will die for the toon army :: I meant what are Ed’s intentions for the Blog next year but understand your comments

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  • Toon Graeme

    May 9, 2009 at 6:54 PM

    Comment #11

    I think the Mackems will safe and it will come down to the last day of the season – unless we win the next 2 matches.

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  • jimiley

    May 9, 2009 at 7:08 PM

    Comment #12

    Another must win game. How many more must win games before we run out of them? Smith to score against Boro to prove that miracles do happen!!!!!

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  • Girth

    May 9, 2009 at 7:08 PM

    Comment #13

    @ the league……
    holy relegation batman, thats nuts that like!!

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  • Girth

    May 9, 2009 at 7:10 PM

    Comment #14

    the cliche ‘must win game’ is an over used one, but can you remember a game as important as this??? Its crazy!!! Then again, so will the fulham one, cant wait, love this game like!!

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  • Doocey

    May 9, 2009 at 7:10 PM

    Comment #15

    Agreed. We’ve been given a second chance now and we need to take it.

    I was just thinking today that we should really have 6 more points than we do.
    2-2 at Wigan, last min goal conceded
    2-2 at Stoke, last min goal conceded and
    2-2 at City, another late goal conceded.

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  • jimiley

    May 9, 2009 at 7:11 PM

    Comment #16

    Big Dave
    The biggest stumbling block is that we are crap. One win in 20 says everything. We are crap but Toon til I die!

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  • Big Dave

    May 9, 2009 at 7:12 PM

    Comment #17

    jimiley how many more must wins ? 3 lol for this year anyway

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  • jimiley

    May 9, 2009 at 7:13 PM

    Comment #18

    Where is Joe Kinnear our manager? Any answers Mr Ashley?

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  • workyticket

    May 9, 2009 at 7:15 PM

    Comment #19

    Happy birthday to Frank Pingel, one of the true greats at this club.

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  • Big Dave

    May 9, 2009 at 7:18 PM

    Comment #20

    Doocey i know what you mean but we cant dwell in the past It doesn’t seem that long ago that our must win games was to decide between champs league or uefa how far we have fallen theres a bit of dwelling in the past lol

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  • Norn Iron Magpie

    May 9, 2009 at 7:21 PM

    Comment #21

    Are my comments showing

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  • Norn Iron Magpie

    May 9, 2009 at 7:21 PM

    Comment #22

    Ok they are then, silly me.

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  • Doocey

    May 9, 2009 at 7:22 PM

    Comment #23

    I know Big Dave but it’s disappointing because we could be far away from this mess should we have kept our cool on occasions.

    Middlesbrough game should be the only thing on the player’s minds on Monday.

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  • hitman

    May 9, 2009 at 7:28 PM

    Comment #24

    dont worry lads we will turn owa the smogies

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  • Norn Iron Magpie

    May 9, 2009 at 7:30 PM

    Comment #25

    Evening folks.
    Having bother commenting.

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  • JJJ

    May 9, 2009 at 7:31 PM

    Comment #26

    Well…

    Hull have done everything in their power to try help us stay up this year.
    Us beating Middlesborough would effectively send them down 99% and it means West Brom would have to win both their last games to beat us… 99% that wont happen.
    And if Hull lose or draw to Bolton and we draw against Fulham it would mean they’d have to beat Man united on the last day to stay up.
    So, 4 more points and we are safe…

    Beat Borough and draw to Fulham…

    Surely we that cr@p!

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  • Norn Iron Magpie

    May 9, 2009 at 7:31 PM

    Comment #27

    Right its working now then.

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  • hitman

    May 9, 2009 at 7:31 PM

    Comment #28

    if we carnt beat boro at home we deserve the drop

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  • Norn Iron Magpie

    May 9, 2009 at 7:32 PM

    Comment #29

    Yep 4 points will be enough imo.

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  • Doocey

    May 9, 2009 at 7:34 PM

    Comment #30

    A win against Boro is essential and I think Fulham will be extremely tough to beat.

    Maybe a win at Boro and a draw against Villa could save us.

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  • Norn Iron Magpie

    May 9, 2009 at 7:35 PM

    Comment #31

    I expect a tight match on Monday night. 1 goal between us. Just trying to keep the faith really. Was reading earlier threads. 51 times needs to be band. That joke about Massarene barracks is sick.

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  • Robby Bobson

    May 9, 2009 at 7:36 PM

    Comment #32

    The importnat thing is that its in our hands realistically (unless Hull win a game lyk 10-0). How West Brom do i think is irrelevant as they are going down in my opinion so if they make it above us it means we finish 19th 0r 20th.

    MOnday is a ” almost must win” as its our easiest game but Villa arent the team they were earlier in the season (when we beat them) and Hull dont ever look like winning. Boro is definately a must not loose game, but for a realist chance of stayin up we need to do the boro!!!

    Someone just needs to sit down owen and martins, draw some goalposts and explain thats where the ball goes.

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  • Norn Iron Magpie

    May 9, 2009 at 7:37 PM

    Comment #33

    Beat Boro then 2 draws i reckon. 5 points

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  • JJJ

    May 9, 2009 at 7:38 PM

    Comment #34

    Doocey, I honestly think if we beat borough, the confidence boost of getting out of the relegation zone zone and winning will up our players performance ten fold…

    If we win we wont lose to Fulham, so IMO we beat Borough and we are safe.

    This game is massive!!!!

    Worth at least 1ooMil to the club… probably more the the Champions league final.

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  • Norn Iron Magpie

    May 9, 2009 at 7:40 PM

    Comment #35

    JJJ
    When you put it like that its a massive must win. Hate to use the term but it is what it is.

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  • xfer

    May 9, 2009 at 7:41 PM

    Comment #36

    For the first time, in a long long while, its in our hand now. Anything but a win, we deserve to go down. Simple.

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  • Norn Iron Magpie

    May 9, 2009 at 7:42 PM

    Comment #37

    Big Dave you still there?
    Did you read earlier comments from 51 times?

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  • Norn Iron Magpie

    May 9, 2009 at 7:44 PM

    Comment #38

    Big Dave you still there?

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  • toon 86

    May 9, 2009 at 7:44 PM

    Comment #39

    this has been the craziest season ever.we keep getting chance after chance and keep blowing it, hopefully colo will watch the ball on monday rather than think which moose is the best for his hair and get caught out again,and howay michael give us somit to thank you for at the end of the season.also oba put ya striking boots on kid where depending on you all to stay UNITED

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  • batty

    May 9, 2009 at 7:44 PM

    Comment #40

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