Newcastle Survival Depends On Which Team Turns Up At Villa

Next Sunday at Villa Park, will it be the Newcastle team that turned out on Monday night against Middlesbrough, and gave it all they had for 90 minutes, or will it be the usual rather depressing team that has turned out far too many times for Newcastle this season, when it all seems just too much for them.


Alan Shearer – team selection vital for next Sunday

So team selection will be vital for next week.

We just watched the Alan Shearer interview on Newcastle United TV, and we have to say we are so impressed with the way Alan handled himself, in almost tragic circumstances.

We couldn’t do that – because we are too angry at our players right now – but Alan had his feet on the ground, and he will do all he can to get the win next week.

But as he says – it’s now out out of our  hands,  and a win by Hull City against a weakened Manchester United side – will see us relegated.

But Alan looks like he has just about everything it takes to become a top manager, just like he was a world-class player. But we have to have the luck next Sunday, as we did not have yesterday, and it’s not impossible to win that game.

Also we have to play the full 90 minutes next Sunday, and we must go all out all game, because a winner in the 92nd minute with Hull not winning – and we survive!

But Shearer must look at who he starts next week and with Bassong missing we’d seriously give a good look at David Edgar for a replacement.

Yes Coloccini has more experience but Steven Taylor and David Edgar at the back are two who would give their lives rather than let anything through next Sunday afternoon.

And from what we’ve seen of David this year – he could get the job done.

We would not even start Michael Owen – even if he’s fit again, and would consider playing one of the local lads – and even starting Andy Carroll alongside Martins and Viduka.

One player we wouldn’t even have on the subs bench is Jonas Gutierrez,  because in the last two games he’s been more than hopeless. Leave him out for next Sunday.

This could be a team Alan could start – but we cannot carry the heartless players next week and those born in the are, or part of the Academy should be considered strongly.

Here is a 4-3-3 formation that may be able to win the game:

Beye Edgar Taylor Duff
Guthrie Butt Nolan
Carroll Viduka Martins

Newcastle have carried too many players who disappear when the going gets tough, and we cannot have any of those players starting next week.

And it will not matter next week if we play great or play terrible, because even if we win and Hull win – if will still be doom and gloom.

In fact here’s what we’ll have to do depending on what Hull do against Champions Manchester United:

Hull win – Newcastle are relegated
Hull draw – Newcastle must win
Hull lose – Newcastle must draw

Let us know what you think.

42 comments so far

  • Wigaz

    May 17, 2009 at 12:53 PM

    Comment #1

    ED i can see your frustrated at a lot of the players & who can blame you mate. 433 would be nice but if we dont play with wide men Young & Milner will tear us apart on the wings. Totally agree with you on Jonas i’ve been saying it for months, whats the point of beating 3 men if you have NO end product? As for Owen he just isn’t fit to wear the shirt plain & simple. I’d go with.


    Lets just hope villa have a poor game & that our boys play like heroes for 90 mins. But that does seem a hell of hope. Ed just like to thank you for all the hard work you’ve done on this blog since it started. It’s great to have a place we can all air our views. This blog will be sorely missed. Anyone elase taking up the mantle?

  • Geordie-Gerrard7

    May 17, 2009 at 1:05 PM

    Comment #2

    i really am devastated, but im adamant we will stay up, first of all, bassongs sending off was all harpers fault, every other decent keeper would have commanded the situation and raced out to get the ball.

    secondly, viduka’s goal was a definate goal, that bald cnut howard webb, i thought he was meant to be the top ref, i thought taylor was again good yesterday, beye was rubbish untill he went cb, i thought guthrie and nolan were imaculate in the middle, i thought r.taylor was a fonkey that should never play for us again, and i also thought that oba and dukes played well, jonas was awful

  • stevep

    May 17, 2009 at 1:07 PM

    Comment #3

    Well we better get used to the idea of being in the championship because it’s highly likely thats where we’ll be next season. The ref chalking off Vidukas goal yesterday was probably the final straw, yes there was slight contact on Schwarzer but how many times have we seen those ignored… gutted

    The players just haven’t been good enough and while I like Taylor and he does play with heart, his positional sense is poor, I’d move him to right back as he’s pretty hopeless as a centreback pairing – you can’t have Beye, Duff and Tayls bombing forward leaving Bassong on his lonesome.

    Boro game was a one off and it probably shows how bad they are rather than us playing well – I can’t see us getting anything at Villa and can see Hull getting a point against Man U kids

    Depressed, frustrated, angry, sad – yup I’m all of them

  • sundaymondayhabibbeye

    May 17, 2009 at 1:13 PM

    Comment #4

    People seem to forget that even if Hull win we can still stay up. If the mackems lose their remaining 2 games,which is quite a possibility we have to win at villa park and then were safe. Whether we can do that remains to be seen.

    Coward Webb was awful yesterday,Nolan did nothing!!!

  • Geordie-Gerrard7

    May 17, 2009 at 1:18 PM

    Comment #5

    i was at the game, and everything good we did nolan was at the centre of.

  • Brazilian Geordie

    May 17, 2009 at 1:34 PM

    Comment #6

    No matter what has already happened during this whole season, just forget about. Our lives depend just on Sunday’s game, nothing else.

    So as a fan, I can tell you honestly I’ll be wacthing the Toon’s games against Aston Villa hoping we can still survive in the Premier League. And I know, no matter what you say about not trusting in the players or considering the game impossible to win, you’re going to watch the game with that last gasp of hope. Because I know we still believe and still care, no matter how bad things are. And really, the only thing we can do now is to support, and that’s what the Newcastle fans are so good at!

    Keep the faith.

  • Little Willie

    May 17, 2009 at 1:34 PM

    Comment #7

    The funny thing is people run down Owen and Jonas but those 2 are likely to be the most sought after if we do go down, both have quality that will show through in a superior team while we are left with junk like Kevin Nolan.

  • serene0380

    May 17, 2009 at 1:39 PM

    Comment #8


    Please don’t let the fans down…

    Newcastle players who will be playing against Aston Villa

    You guys, work hard!!! Last year Fulham can make it, you can do it too!!!

    Show us your skills and talent… Newcastle will not be relegated…

    Fr Singapore

  • Michael12

    May 17, 2009 at 1:51 PM

    Comment #9

    Survival depends on Shearer’s cognitive abilities to be able to deduce Villa’s weaknesses and devise tactics to exploit those weaknesses.

    Contrary to what most if not all of you think, I know we have good players but we have poor management.

    I love Shearer as a player but the fact is he plays with no tactics.

  • Johno Toon

    May 17, 2009 at 2:13 PM

    Comment #10

    I think we will get a point against villa dunno if that will be good enough to keep us up,

    Utd really have to beat hull next week for us to have a chance, dont think we can catch sunderland

    Hopefully a point will be good enough

  • jim

    May 17, 2009 at 2:32 PM

    Comment #11

    ide deffo start with carrol viduka martins and ranger aswell! get steven taylor furthur forward too!-and lovenkrands is a must to start! he can play anywhere hes aleady said he can and will-stick guiteirez in defence as he never stops tackling and running and doesnt need an end product in defense! that frees up taylor to get forward-loven gettin forward on the wings with duff feeding ranger carrol duke and martins


    laff if u want but alan shearers changed it that many times doubt it would be any worse! lol

  • malfuriouspete

    May 17, 2009 at 2:35 PM

    Comment #12

    Hey all, long time reader first time poster.

    When is it considered a foul when a player stands in front of the keeper during a corner? Doesn’t an attacking player have every right to be there and challenge for the ball? Keepers are afforded too much protection and the refs are only too happy to blow their whistle when a player and keeper jump for a ball.

    Its east to blame that ruiner Howard Webb that we will go down.. but the fact is we’ve played like shit all year long. Losing to Hull at St.James back in September. Drawing games against Man C, Wigan and Stoke by allowing late goals. Having a poor home record and an even poorer away record, not having stable management, the list goes on and on.

    However, if the goal stood we’d still be level on points with Hull and even if we both lose next weekend we’d still stay up because of goal difference.. but thats just fantastic thinking

    I’m hoping beyond hope that we can produce some magic next weekend or at least get a draw and hull lose

  • jim

    May 17, 2009 at 2:36 PM

    Comment #13

    *guiteirez in for nolan-nolan on the bench

  • tdt

    May 17, 2009 at 2:43 PM

    Comment #14

    Jim 🙂 I think ur cracking up mate, but its no suprise considering what us fan have been put through this season.


    Beye…Collo…S.Taylor…Enrique (or Duff)

    Gutherie(or Jonas)..Nolan..Butt..Loven (or Duff)

    ……..Viduka (or carrol)….Martins……..

  • batty

    May 17, 2009 at 2:51 PM

    Comment #15

    cnt see hull gettin owt of man u

  • Brazilian Geordie

    May 17, 2009 at 3:00 PM

    Comment #16

    I’d go with the following XI:

    Edgar – Beye – S. Taylor – Duff
    Guthrie – Nolan – Butt – Lovenkrands
    Martins – Viduka

  • toonoholic

    May 17, 2009 at 3:08 PM

    Comment #17

    Looking at our fate this season
    abdy faye scored
    bramble scored

    milner will score and the worst possible title would be

    ‘Milner sends newcastle down’

    I am sick and tired of players performance but I still believe we will stay up. I refuse to accept . We are going to win next sunday. The only question is will hull win ? hull might get a draw out of it , but the chances are slim as united would play their young hungry kids.

    chelsea would get the best of sunderland, i am pretty positive about that.

    wba are losing now and they are the team i suppose who are mathematically and with GD out for staying up.

    there are 4 teams for that 2 spot, boro, newcastle, hull and sunderland if they lose their next game

  • toonoholic

    May 17, 2009 at 3:09 PM

    Comment #18

    PS: we should play a 4-3-3 or whatever it takes, as we have to win that game, there is no point going there to defend. we need to score as many goals as possible to win

  • ObaFan2

    May 17, 2009 at 3:18 PM

    Comment #19

    If we beat Villa we’d likely stay up ! Unlikely though!

    If we draw, we have a 50/50 chance (Hull may get a draw V Man U?

    I’d also like to thank Ed for his dedication to this blog and 2 years+ of hard work providing us with a great place to discuss topical events regarding NUFC.


    I for one will really miss your blog 🙁

    Geordie for life, Toon fan whatever division, Ashley out!

  • Partizan

    May 17, 2009 at 3:24 PM

    Comment #20

    Toonoholic….Dont forget the 2 goals from Ryan Taylor aswell

  • Big Dave

    May 17, 2009 at 3:25 PM

    Comment #21

    Ed if scumberland only get a draw from thier last 2 matches we can still beat them, now wouldnt that be nice sending the smogs and the mackems down if wee do what we need to do now that would be the fairytale ending. LoL

  • toon in Kampala

    May 17, 2009 at 3:51 PM

    Comment #22

    433 is suicide against young and milner,I kno he’s been crap but we r gonna need jonas 4 his ability 2 track back and hope to catch villa on the break like fulham did to us.BTW i watched Udinese last nite,our new kit really looks like Udinese’s.sadly that’s where the comparisons end,they are a real tidy side.if we stay up maybe we could go 4 their young midfield star,Gaetano D’agostino and stunning wingman Pepe.I believe we have suffered because of a lack of creativity in midfield that’s forcd us to long hopeful punts upfront.

  • toon in Kampala

    May 17, 2009 at 3:56 PM

    Comment #23

    Against villa

    Beye Edgar Tayls Duff

    Jonas Guthrie Nolan Lovens

    Caroll Oba

  • Widowmaker

    May 17, 2009 at 3:59 PM

    Comment #24

    I don’t think Sunderland’s result would be relevent as we need to grab something from the Villa game anyway.

  • DanToon

    May 17, 2009 at 4:03 PM

    Comment #25

    Ashely out, Ashley out, Ashley out! That should be the chant at the end of sunday’s game no matter what the outcome, he’s a fat pr**k and i can’t stand him!!

  • Widowmaker

    May 17, 2009 at 4:04 PM

    Comment #26

    Jonas is okay imho.

    Yes he is not doing well since Shearer coming in, but he was carrying a injury and hardly played into his full strength due to our lack of quality in general passing/movement and tactic reasons.

    I think his performance in the first half of the season would still make 80% of our other players feel ashamed of their own performances.

  • Brazilian Geordie

    May 17, 2009 at 4:10 PM

    Comment #27

    And where’s Derek Llambias now with his prediction that we’d end the season with 46 POINTS?!

    Oh well… I think that’s something impossible do to at the momment.

  • Brazilian Geordie

    May 17, 2009 at 4:12 PM

    Comment #28

    And where’s Derek Llambias now with his prevision that we’d finish the season with 46 POINTS?

    Oh well… I think that’s something impossible to reach at the momment.

  • Widowmaker

    May 17, 2009 at 4:14 PM

    Comment #29

    Never trust a gambler. I was taught this way.

  • toonoholic

    May 17, 2009 at 4:23 PM

    Comment #30

    46 points? i thought he was talking about his waist size

  • Rodzilla

    May 17, 2009 at 5:25 PM

    Comment #31


    “even if we win and Hull win – if will still be doom and gloom.”

    If we win and Hull win, and the SMBs get less than 2 points at Pompey and home to Chelsea – the unwashed get a long-deserved bath in Coca Cola!

    …what a fairy-tale ending THAT would be!

    (P.S. well spotted Big Dave)

    Despite being almost resigned to ‘it’, my can is still half-full!


  • Rodzilla

    May 17, 2009 at 5:33 PM

    Comment #32

    Widowmaker // May 17, 2009 at 4:14 PM —-29

    …”Never trust a gambler. I was taught this way.”

    …are you a Bookmaker?

  • Widowmaker

    May 17, 2009 at 5:47 PM

    Comment #33

    Rodzilla, I would buy out MA if I were. 🙁

  • Davy Craig

    May 17, 2009 at 9:11 PM

    Comment #34

    I still think we’ll get something against Villa but they have a huge threat in the pace they have down the wings and Carew up front. I also think we need to try and get wide ourselves and try and get decent passes through to our strikers rather than floating hopeful balls into nowhere leaving them with nothing but scraps to fight for. I’d therefore go for the following;


    Beye Edgar S. Taylor Enrique/Duff

    Lovenkrands Nolan Butt Duff/Lua Lua

    Viduka Martins

    I’d like to see Butt stick closer to the back four to simply protect them from the likes of Barry coming forward. This will allow Nolan to get further forward and he’s starting to show some form despite still looking ten years older than he actually is!

    Martins needs to stick closer to Viduka to win the second ball off him as well as allow Viduka to play him in better.

    Enrique returning in time could be a huge boost to allow Duff to do what he does best and if not I’d go with Lua Lua as he can run at players and cause problems all over the park.

    For me Jonas and Guthrie have simply not been good enough recently and we can’t afford to carry anyone in such a huge game.

    Hopefully we’ll be breathing a huge sigh of relief come Sunday tea time but there’ll be no nails left either way.

    I’ll be sorry to see this blog go as well Ed. All the best for the future and thanks for getting this started up in the first place.


  • vic

    May 17, 2009 at 9:56 PM

    Comment #35





  • vic

    May 17, 2009 at 10:02 PM

    Comment #36

    Chelsea 2:1 Sanderland
    Hull 1:1 ManU
    Villa 0:1 NUFC

    16. NUFC
    17. Sanderland
    18. Hull
    19. Smoggies

  • NicoGF

    May 17, 2009 at 11:49 PM

    Comment #37

    Ed said: ‘a win by Hull City against a weakened Manchester United side – will see us relegated’.

    Wrong, Hull isn’t our only direct enemy. Imagine this:

    Hull wins against Man Utd. We beat Aston Villa, and a Sunderland loss would see us safe! (even if Sunderland draw, we have the chance to either equalise or overcome them in goal difference). Because a win always gives at least +1 goal difference, a draw always gives 0, and a loss always gives -1 in the best case!. That way Sunderland would get relegated 😉 and it would see both Hull & Newcastle saved.

    Sunderland atm have a GD of -17, while we have -18. In other words, if we beat Villa by 1 goal and Sun lose.. we’ll be equal to them in points (37-37) but we’d be ahead of them in goal difference! (us with -17 and them with -18 or worse). But if Sun draw and we win it will all depend on how many goals ahead of Villa we end. If we beat Villa by 1 goal and Sun draw, (we will have same points and goal difference to Sun, 37, -17 respectively) so I don’t know what’s the way to define this in the EPL.. maybe a match between NU and Sun to see who gets relegated? But as I said, if we beat Villa by more than 1 goal, plus Sunderland lose or draw, we will survive.

    A tragedy would be, Hull winning, and Sunderland winning (thse 2 things happening together would see us relegated regardless of what we do at Villa).

    As you can see. It’s not over yet, NOT ANYWHERE NEAR GUYS.

    Help me reach +50 fans please:

    You can see I’m a realism lover.,,12306,00.html

  • NicoGF

    May 18, 2009 at 12:23 AM

    Comment #38

    All my calculations were considering every team had 1 game to go… but now a friend is telling me Sunderland has 2 games to go.

    even if Hull win, sunderland will have to win one of those games or at least get 2 draws, otherwise if newcastle win, it could see sun going down. In other words, if Sunderland lose and then draw for instance, and NU beat Villa, all will depend on the goal difference that newcastle get at villa.

    If we draw Villa, we have to wait for Hull to lose, otherwise we’re down.

  • Tom_Toon

    May 18, 2009 at 3:02 AM

    Comment #39


  • Tom_Toon

    May 18, 2009 at 3:02 AM

    Comment #40



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