Let’s Stop Blaming Manchester United And Save Ourselves

We have never been people who look for excuses when things don’t go right.


Alex Ferguson responsible for Newcastle demise – let’s stop this rubbish

And we have to admit to being frustrated at all the news going on about what team Sir Alex Ferguson will field against Hull City at the KC stadium next Sunday.

Since that’s just 3 days before the reigning European and World Club Champions will take on Barcelona in the European Champions League, we wouldn’t even expect Ferguson to play his top team on Sunday.

He wants to play his top team on Wednesday night.

After all, that’s why clubs have big squads, especially with Manchester United. They have played 60 games in all competitions this season up till this point, and have only two games left – away to Hull City on Sunday and against Barcelona on Wednesday night. And they will have had a full week to prepare for Hull City.

If Hull manage to win on Sunday, please let’s not say Newcastle’s relegation (we can still survive by beating Villa and Sunderland lose to Chelsea – wouldn’t that be sweet?), is Alex Ferguson’s fault in any way.

It’s embarrassing to even talk about it.

Against Fulham it seemed to be all Howard Webb’s fault – hey – give us a break – please!

What about the 37 league games Newcastle have played this season, and accumulated just 34 points?   Wonder if that’s got anything to do with our plight?  

This season will be our worst points total ever in the Premier League following last season’s total of 43, which was also the points total of the season before that, for which then manager Glenn Roeder was fired.

And since Glenn left in May, 2007, we’ve had 5 managers, including Chris Hughton. More is not better when appointing managers. 😀

And these are the lowest three points totals in Newcastle’s 16 years in the top league – so we cannot even say it hasn’t been coming.

No, we all know where the responsibility for our demise lies – and here’s a big hint – it’s not at Old Trafford.

Comments welcome.

28 comments so far

  • Stardust

    May 21, 2009 at 11:44 AM

    Comment #2

    Folks – if the interest is there – Worky, Myself and Rodzilla are going to pull a free new blog together.

    Please send an email to : nufcblog@live.co.uk if you want to be informed.

    It will also help us see the level of demand

  • batty

    May 21, 2009 at 11:46 AM

    Comment #3

    Stardust // May 21, 2009 at 11:29 AM

    Batty – rottweillers at the door to stop you entering
    <<<<now thats not very nice is it

  • batty

    May 21, 2009 at 11:48 AM

    Comment #4

    hope its true grame

  • Toon Graeme

    May 21, 2009 at 11:48 AM

    Comment #5

    Its like blaming other teams for beating us – which is bullslocks.

    The points on the board say it all.

    You can hype up all you want about how positive the training pitch and lads are – it doesnt mean sh*t when they dont get a result.

    Yes we did have the majority of possession on Saturday but did relatively nowt with it. Possession sats mean nowt if you dont get 3 points.

  • Stuart79

    May 21, 2009 at 11:59 AM

    Comment #6

    Look a this seasons results and the table.

    Thats why were going down


    May 21, 2009 at 12:02 PM

    Comment #7

    MANCHESTER UNITED have bowed to Premier League pressure and will field a stronger team at Hull on Sunday.

    SunSport revealed yesterday relegation-haunted Newcastle, Middlesbrough and Sunderland are furious at the prospect of United playing a shadow side.

    But after a day of talks between Premier League chiefs and the clubs, United have promised they will change their plans for the weekend.

    Boss Alex Ferguson kicked off the compromise by saying Rio Ferdinand must prove his fitness at Hull ahead of the Champions League final three days later.

    But United are now also likely to deflect any potential criticism by starting with the likes of Tomas Kuszczak, Gary Neville and Park Ji Sung.

    Darren Fletcher is already pencilled in as he is suspended for the Barcelona clash.

    That is a major shift from Fergie’s original plan – which angered the trio of North-East clubs – to play only Fletcher from his normal starting XI.

    Struggling Hull will be safe if they win.

    But United now seem prepared to do enough to prevent any allegation that they have flaunted rule E20, which states every side must play their ‘strongest team’ in every league match.

    Fergie said: “I have to assess what’s best for Manchester United – but also be fair to other clubs. I’m hoping Rio will be fit for Sunday, if not then he is doubtful for the final.”

    Barca boss Pep Guardiola is set to rest his ENTIRE team in their La Liga game against Osasuna on Saturday.


    May 21, 2009 at 12:06 PM

    Comment #8

    MANCHESTER UNITED were last night sensationally warned: Play a weakened side against Hull and we’ll sue you.

    Relegation-haunted Newcastle, Middlesbrough and Sunderland fear Alex Ferguson will rest his stars against Hull on Sunday ahead of Wednesday’s Champions League final against Barcelona.

    If Hull win they will stay up – and send two of the three North East clubs down, costing them £30million apiece in lost revenue.

    Paragraph E20 of Premier League rules states: “In every league match each participating club should field a full strength team.”

    No club has ever been cited for breaching the rule. But officials from Newcastle, Boro and Sunderland have discussed taking action if United send out a shadow side in the final game of the season.

    A source close to the talks told SunSport: “United have every right to think of themselves but that shouldn’t be to the detriment of others.

    “If they field a reserve team at Hull who then win and stay up, then the consequences for two of the three North East clubs will be dire.

    “No one is looking for a favour, just a level playing field. And if the rules are not adhered to there are means of recourse.”

    If found guilty of breaching rules, United could face anything from a warning to a big fine.

    They would also be open to legal action from any relegated club for compensation.

    A Premier League spokesman said: “We are aware of this situation and we will be monitoring all matches on the final day of the season.”

    fair enough, taken from the sun, but…

  • Ericles

    May 21, 2009 at 12:06 PM

    Comment #9

    I will be watching us on the box on Sunday. I have a lovely treat beforehand though. I have just bought a DVD of Newcastle v Man City in the 1955 Cup Final.

  • Robby Bobson

    May 21, 2009 at 12:15 PM

    Comment #10

    That case of being sued is just journalist finding a rule and finds a story. As if the FA would do anything about Fergie anyway.

    I think if we win, we are staying up because i doubt man utd and chelsea will both lose in the same week. If we win and we go down at least we can say we did all we could when we had the chance in the last week.

    Its obvious whats the problem with the team (and i dont think its the majoirty not caring), that we dont have a cutting edge but i few players on top of their game (Viduka, Martins) and a few rare glimpses of talent (Ryan Taylor scoring a free kick) we can beat Villa.

  • Foluwashola Ameobi

    May 21, 2009 at 12:16 PM

    Comment #11

    I will be at Villa Park watching our demise/survival. Going to be a long day.

  • Foluwashola Ameobi

    May 21, 2009 at 12:18 PM

    Comment #12

    PS I am ever seen a mackem in Milan. Thought my name needed a change! 😀

  • Johno Toon

    May 21, 2009 at 12:20 PM

    Comment #13

    As said before league table doesnt lie , we are were we deserve to be at this stage of the season.

    But we can forget all about those 37 games and concentrate on one 90min game of football.

    If we win we should stay up

  • Foluwashola Ameobi

    May 21, 2009 at 12:21 PM

    Comment #14

    Ed why do my comments need moderating? 🙁

  • Hugh de Payen

    May 21, 2009 at 12:24 PM

    Comment #15

    No, we really have no business blaming Man Utd, even if they put out a makeshift team and lose to Hull.

    It’s will be annoying and depressing of course, but we should have done the work to ensure survival long before now.

    Having said that, I would *hope* Alex Ferguson would be fair to the relegation strugglers and put out a decent(ish) team, but I certainly won’t bank on it or use it as an excuse for our relegation.

    Our relegation will be down to incompetent ownership and an undeperforming team for most of the season.

  • geordie deb

    May 21, 2009 at 12:35 PM

    Comment #16

    I sincerely hope that all the comment re NUFC, Boro and the Mackems being ready to sue if SAF didn’t feel a strong side against Hull was just the usual product of some journalists overactive imagination and didn’t have any substance. From all the derision this is being met with by other clubs fans across the country we are becoming even more reviled which is such a shame. We are in the mess we are in because we have not been good enough across the season, it’s pathetic to even think of laying the blame at other peoples’doors when we have turned in so many useless performances. I’m also sick of hearing the players bleeting on about how they will give it their all. They should have been doing this all season and we wouldn’t be in this predicament. Enough talk we want to see them fight to the death for the cause. As much as it pains me to say I just can’t see them taking advantage and sweating blood to beat Villa. Too many of the journey men know this one is coming to an end so their attention will be elsewhere.

  • brownrob

    May 21, 2009 at 12:48 PM

    Comment #17

    As I mentioned in the last blog, I might start a site, with Blog, and pages for PLayer profiles, transfer rumours, galleries and have some writers, you would need to register, but that would be so I could perma ban tools 😉

    I would have a small paypal link at the top that would be voluntary and help keep the site ad free


  • Foluwashola Ameobi

    May 21, 2009 at 12:51 PM

    Comment #18

    Lots of competition brownrob. Im all for it. Any new blog gets my vote since Ed is shutting this one down.

  • Nobby_Long

    May 21, 2009 at 12:56 PM

    Comment #19

    A Stardust run blog, that’s free from personal abuse and attacks on people’s intelligence levels…..now there’s a radical idea…..

    Count me in……….

    Stardust, are you going to put your profile on the front page, with a photo of yourself????…..lol

    Only kidding……..

    TBH …life would be rather boring without a blog to moan & gripe about our great club…….

    You never know, some of us might actually be positive about a few things if we manage to stop up ………….then again……

    I think we’ve all forgotten what its like to have a positive outlook…….to win a few games…

    I feel totally drained by this season……..can’t wait for it ot be over, so I can forget about it.

  • Nobby_Long

    May 21, 2009 at 1:09 PM

    Comment #20

    I agree….if we can somehow win, then I’m sure we will stay up….

    Big IF though

  • Stardust

    May 21, 2009 at 1:18 PM

    Comment #21

    One things for sure Nobby – we will make sure we have a few posters who are of different opinions to start threads off – that way we will encourage real debate and a good informed consensus view.

    Like you say – if we were all of the same mind it would be a terrible world (plus a little abuse every now and then is quite funny lol)

  • Stuart79

    May 21, 2009 at 1:28 PM

    Comment #22

    Well I’ll certainly be on this new blog of Stardusts!

    If only to p1ss him off!!!!!


  • brownrob

    May 21, 2009 at 1:30 PM

    Comment #23

    #1 priority on any blog is to ban bennytool 😉

  • Nobby_Long

    May 21, 2009 at 1:54 PM

    Comment #24


  • simon376@work

    May 21, 2009 at 1:58 PM

    Comment #25

    At the risk of being shot down, one of the reasone I think we are where we are is something we did back in September. Those who have seen my posts in the past know I’m no fan of Ashley, and I was very happy for fans to protest, butthe mistake I think we made was doing it inside the ground during a game.

    If that protest hadnt taken place when we were playing Hull, maybe and it’s a big maybe, they would not have beat us. If that were the case, Hull would not have been above us now.

    Shame we hadn’t waited until the game had finished and then done it. Mind you in saying that, the way the lads have been playing, it might have made no difference. Lets just hope they CAN do it on Sunday

  • Macas35

    May 21, 2009 at 2:17 PM

    Comment #26

    The reason we are in this mess has nothing to do with the effort of the players, anyone who watches them regularly knows that this hasn’t been through want of trying. We just quite simply have a small and unbalanced squad, a problem that should have been rectified by the chairman putting a bit faith in managers who know a far lot more about football than him. Cheers Mike.

  • Micky Toon

    May 21, 2009 at 2:51 PM

    Comment #27

    Macas – Agreed to a point. But I think it’s more down to the quality of the players. You could get 11 people from here trying their hardest and busting a gut for 90 minutes, but we wouldn’t be any good.

  • Macas35

    May 21, 2009 at 3:57 PM

    Comment #28

    Micky – I agree, should have included that in my post as well. They have worked hard (a good example being Gutierrez) but we just arent good enough, especially in midfield. I guess I just get annoyed with people questioning the effort and commitment of the players, as I think we have the best bunch of players in ages in terms of their team spirit and prefessionalism.


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