Not Many First Teamers To Stay On At Newcastle

It’s Memorial Day today in the US, and we just had our son, Neil, over for Memorial Day outdoor barbecue stuff. 


Leader, spokesman and image of Newcastle – things cannot be that bad 

And would you believe the conversation turned to Newcastle and we talked about who should stay, and generally agreed this is a kick up the behiond the club needed – to get their act together and come back to greatness (we hope).

This didn’t go over too well with my wife of 37 years, Madeline, who is also a Geordie girl, a beautiful Geordie girl, born and bred in Newcastle, but now a little Americanized we suppose, after “I took her away from her family in Newcastle”  – 36 years ago when we were moved to the US by IBM.

Madeline quote last night:

“How can you get so upset about Newcastle, they’re only a football team.”

Our regular readers will know all about this – and that my wife doesn’t understand the least thing about football – as Bill Shankly, the great Liverpool manager once said

“They say Football’s a matter of life and death – but I can assure you it is much more important than that”.

We wonder what Mrs Shankly thought about all of this, and we know Bill used to take her to watch some Reserve team games. 😀

Some of  Bill’s hilarious and classic quotes spring to mind:

“There are only two good teams in Liverpool – Liverpool and Liverpool Reserves

If Everton were playing in my front garden, I’d close the curtains.”

“If you are first you are first, if you are second you are nothing.”

“I’m a peoples man, only the people matter.” 

Regular readers of this blog, in its short two year existence, will already know we are big big bfans of Bill Shankly – because of his undying and endless passion and spirit for football and Liverpool.

Anyway, back to this article – and here are some players we think are stayers at the club for next season – from the first team:

Harper, Beye, S. Taylor, Bassong, R.Taylor, Enrique (he looked the only player fighting near the end yesterday and was distraught at the final whistle – like Steven Taylor), Nolan, Butt, Guthrie, Martins and maybe Alan Smith, because at least Alan is full of fight and vigor, and has the physical presence for the Championship – if only we can keep thye lad fit.

Keeping only those players will do the club a world of good with the wage bill, and from our calculations that has to be close to £40M/year we’ll save – that’s a lot of doe.  And then Alan will need to expand that basic squad with some very smart buys, maybe from the Championship itself, where there are some really bright young footballers.

We hope we can keep Seb Bassong, and we should at least try to keep Oba Martins, although that will not be easy with either player.

It will not be easy to get good deals on the players we move out in the summer, because it will be the proverbial fire sale – clubs know we have to sell and will offer low bids for the players – but that’s the situation we are in.

Sell them or pay their ridiculous wages in the Championship – so we’ll sell them.

This doesn’t include some of our terrific youngsters who could well come through next season in the Championship, including Andy Carroll,  Ben Tozer, Samuel Adjei, Tamas Kadar, Haris Vuckic, Tim Krul, Fraser Forster (wanted by Celtic), Nile Ranger, Wesley Ngo Baheng and Kazenga LuaLua – to name just a few. 

By the start of the Championship season in early August, we hope to see a very new squad of players – and enough of them – and they need to have skill, heart and be completely dedicated to the success of our football club.

After all, those are the characteristics of our fans, so why should the players, who represent the club on the field, be anything less?

Howay The Lads!!

55 comments so far

  • sinicols9

    May 25, 2009 at 9:41 PM

    Comment #1

    Good to hear that even having a family bbq your still thinking about the Toon Ed!!
    Good story in paper today about a guy kicking his wife of 15 years out after she commented that “it was only a effing Game” and why “was he so upset”!!
    Agree with your choice of players but just wonder where goals will come from. Martins will be gone for sure, cant put faith in shola and carol and rainger are still learning.
    As toon fans who do you think we should go after as a goalscorer??

  • NUFC Bahrain

    May 25, 2009 at 9:42 PM

    Comment #2

    classic, the wife’s a scouser

  • aussie_toon

    May 25, 2009 at 9:46 PM

    Comment #3

    I really hope we can keep Obafemi Martins. hes a livewire, and everytime he comes on the field and is on the ball, i feel as though he can score. hes full of energy, and exactly what we need if we want to fight out way back to where we rightfully belong.

    I cried yesterday when we lost to Aston Villa. I cried because we lost, we were relegated, and also because of the state the club is in. People like Coloccini and Owen, those who have given NO WHERE NEAR 100% this season, and who we pay 23 times more than they are worth, need to go.

    I hope this time the club makes some right decisions, for example keeping Shearer on permanantly, doing all they can to keep Bassong and Martins, and bringing in some cheap, decent signing, whilst at the same time get rid of those no good so called “high profile” players.



  • Toon_Factor

    May 25, 2009 at 9:51 PM

    Comment #4

    Yeah Ed, women have no idea how much football means to us, my gf goes to Valencia matches with me but shows absolutly no interest in football after the game has finished and doesnt care when I try to explain NUFC problems , moving back to Newcastle in August and hopefully getting a Newcastle season ticket there and then she will really see how much football means

  • MarkO

    May 25, 2009 at 9:54 PM

    Comment #5

    Keep :
    Krul, Beye, S. Taylor, Bassong, R.Taylor, Enrique, Nolan, Butt, Duff, Martins, Loven

    Bring in:
    Delph, Ledley, Janko, Costa (MUST), Wheater, Boyd and a few more and we are up.

  • Robby Bobson

    May 25, 2009 at 9:55 PM

    Comment #6

    I agree with your list of players Ed except for Nolan…absolutely no desire yesterday and laboured about the middle of the park.

    We should target the “young and hungry” players in the championship, such as St Ledger, Gunnarson from Coventry and Kyle Walker.

    These players will cost alot and maybe 5-7 million each but with the huge clearout expected, we need players in that will be prepared to play in chamionship now and improive to be prem quality when we get back up.

  • Toon_Factor

    May 25, 2009 at 9:57 PM

    Comment #7

    Does anyone actaually think for Martins will stay, of course he wont he is too good for the championship, Ashley needs to loan ther players worth keeping and not sell and if we come straight back up they will hopefully stay with us

  • padskis

    May 25, 2009 at 10:01 PM

    Comment #8

    theres not a chance martins will stay. and to be honest that doesnt bother me too much. Ive always liked him, but unfortunately he has proved especially over the end of this season that he is not reliable when needed (boro game aside). He missed numerous golden opportunities for example against fulham, pompey and villa which if he had scored would have saved us. and i think shearer would think that considering his wages he will not be worth the risk.
    also, im not sure i believe that he is as young as he says…

  • sirjasontoon

    May 25, 2009 at 10:05 PM

    Comment #9

    Martins will great shakes really he has looked plop for ages.

    Prefer Lovenkrands I think he will kick ass next season.

  • Robby Bobson

    May 25, 2009 at 10:08 PM

    Comment #10

    Oba wont stay…wouldnt suprise me if he ended up back at Inter. Anyway i think Carroll and Lovenkrands will be a formidable strike force in the championship and seeing as he will most likely be on low wages, give Xisco a good season up front.

    Ed, when is your last post on the blog? Done a crackin job over the past few years.

  • Geordie-Gerrard7

    May 25, 2009 at 10:14 PM

    Comment #11

    Gunnarson the long thrower from cov, qaulity, only 19, i would love naughton and walker, definatley jordi gomez, nile ranger is going to be amaising next year.

    just to let you know, i got the new shirt on friday when i was at st james, i got on the back, i never usually get anything but this shirt needed it…


  • Geordie-Gerrard7

    May 25, 2009 at 10:15 PM

    Comment #12

    i hope martins leaves, he is cack. he hasnt been v good for the past two seasons, no excuses

  • IrishMan

    May 25, 2009 at 10:26 PM

    Comment #13

    Ed, did ye talk about keeping the blog going at your family bbq?

  • Geordie-Gerrard7

    May 25, 2009 at 10:29 PM

    Comment #15 another good article, butttt…………..i really hope people like gutierrez leave, he has good abilty just no end product and we could get around 8-9 million for him, colo 6 million for him, owen out, i recon all in all we will get around 35 nillion for our junk, then start again with hungry young british talent.

    were is tom-toon and spyro these days

  • sirjasontoon

    May 25, 2009 at 10:31 PM

    Comment #16

    Tom Toon has started scouting on you tube so will be very busy over the next couple of months.

  • Soren

    May 25, 2009 at 10:34 PM

    Comment #17

    Thought I would just inform you guys about Lovenkrands. His agent said today, that he is trying to find a PL club for Peter, and he wants to play in the PL. Peter himself has refused to comment on anything. All this is from the danish media.
    Don’t know what to think, I would like think that he wants to stay, and that all this is just his agent talking his own case.

  • Ben_BKK

    May 25, 2009 at 10:35 PM

    Comment #18

    There’s a couple of other players I was thinking of that we’ve been linked with previously, such as John Joe O’Toole from Watford, or Jonjo Shelvey from Charlton (who of course are in League 1 now so should be even easier to buy).

    How about Kyle Naughton and Michael Kightly, and that LB Fox, from Coventry I think he was.

    Also, people talking about fire-sales, and our players going for next to nowt, just remember a couple of seasons ago, when Spurs bought Darren Bent for 16 million quid. Hopefully we’ll be able to get a few good deals like that 😉

  • Nick 69

    May 25, 2009 at 10:41 PM

    Comment #19

    why wud michael kightly leave a prem club to play for us?? i agree with kyle naughton and id also have another look at tht young lb frm leicester joe mattock. also fabian delph and beckford from leeds would be good signings!

  • IrishMan

    May 25, 2009 at 10:41 PM

    Comment #20

    Thanks hitman – an encouraging article from tomorrow’s Times.

  • Toon_Factor

    May 25, 2009 at 10:44 PM

    Comment #21

    Im still so down and depressed 🙁

  • Doocey

    May 25, 2009 at 10:47 PM

    Comment #22

    Realistically were going to lose

    Habib Habib Beye, Bassong, Ryan Taylor, Kevin Nolan, Jonas Gutierrez, Peter Lovenkrands, Danny Guthrie (maybe), Joey Barton, Nicky Butt (retire) , Michael Owen, and the most sorry fella to me that’ll leave is Obafemi Martins.

  • tdt

    May 25, 2009 at 10:56 PM

    Comment #24

    Was just thinking – on the positive side…

    we’ll have a record stadium capacity for the new league!

  • Dan4Toon

    May 25, 2009 at 10:56 PM

    Comment #25
  • Ben_BKK

    May 25, 2009 at 10:56 PM

    Comment #26

    Sorry Nick, forgot that Wolves had been promoted lol…

    Although I keep hearing about this Jordi Gomez who’s been on loan at Swansea, supposedly been really good, perhaps worth a look?

  • geordie deb

    May 25, 2009 at 10:57 PM

    Comment #27

    Toon Factor

    ‘Yeah Ed, women have no idea how much football means to us’

    Surprisingly, being mere women, it also means a lot to quite a few of us

  • cosmicMini95

    May 25, 2009 at 11:02 PM

    Comment #28

    Would love Oba to stay, think he might be tempted to give it a season, would go as far as giving him the captaincy to help sway his decision 🙂 Bassong is young and needs to be told he has plenty of years ahead of him, hopefully will show some faith in the club like they did by giving him a chance!

    Not sure Lovenkrands will want to move his family again despite what his agent says.

    I really think Nolan has been poor and would rather hold onto Smith despite his higher wages.

    Owen – £5.4 Million Wages
    Viduka – £3.75 Million Wages
    Cacapa – £1.5 Million Wages
    Geremi – £0.5M Transfer + £3 Million Wages
    Ameobi – £1.5M Transfer + £2 Million Wages
    Gonzalez – £1.25 Million Wages
    Colochinni – £3.0M Transfer + £2.5 Million Wages
    Barton – £3.75M Transfer + £3.4 Million Wages
    Nolan – £2.75M Transfer £1.2 Million Wages
    Xisco – (Loan) £1.5 Million Wages

    Thats 37 Million, mainly saved in wages. A clearout of the back stage staff could easily see that taken upto 40 Million and with the parachute payments I don’t really think we would need to save alot more than that…

    Would leave us with a team of:



    With the likes of Baheng, Tozer maturing nicely would we really need to make any signings?

    On another note… Viduka’s disallowed goal against Fulham.. What a difference that would have made!

  • Toon_Factor

    May 25, 2009 at 11:03 PM

    Comment #29

    geordie deb

    Sorry I should say most girls.

  • mylestoon

    May 25, 2009 at 11:07 PM

    Comment #30

    The one thing that will stick out in my mind is that the team showed no class, no spirit, no determination. The only players, yesterday, that showed they wanted to keep us up were taylor, duff and it as to be said butt (Even though his legs fail him these days). If those 3 and harper stay i will be happy. if bassong was to stay i would be happy.

    3 things we need next season are:
    1) Stability
    2) Comitment
    3) Consistency!!!

    Comon shearer!

  • geordie deb

    May 25, 2009 at 11:11 PM

    Comment #31

    Toon Factor

    No probs LOL

  • Doocey

    May 25, 2009 at 11:11 PM

    Comment #32

    We can’t think about what could’ve been!

    Viduka’s disallowed goal v Fulham, etc.

    We were lucky to get a point at Stoke if you remember, likewise against Chelsea at Stamford Bridge. Spurs at home etc.

    We deserved to go down, simple as!

  • batty

    May 25, 2009 at 11:13 PM

    Comment #33

    my wife is just as gutted as me ed that weve gone doon

  • mylestoon

    May 25, 2009 at 11:14 PM

    Comment #34

    i think its also worth a note that i was lifted by the voice of the newcastle supports at the villa game when the final whistle went! never seen so much commitment and class in my life! we are the toon!

  • jimiley

    May 25, 2009 at 11:18 PM

    Comment #35

    Martins is so overrated, its unreal. 80K a week for a player who scores every third game. Crap. Crap. Crap. we have seen so much crap we can no longer see the wood for the trees. he did not care yesterday. Let him do his silly somersaults somewhere else. he had loads of chances in the last few games and missed them all except for Boro where he fell over. Could not trap a bag of cement and we idiots pay him a third of a million pounds a month (he is injured more often than not!!! Crazy!!!)

  • jimiley

    May 25, 2009 at 11:20 PM

    Comment #36

    Oba Martins
    Put it another way… his weekly pay is more than the whole Scunthorpe wage bill. Now we all know why we are relegated. He got 8 goals this season. He is crap and must go.

  • Mags

    May 25, 2009 at 11:21 PM

    Comment #37

    Toon Factor, you need to include me in that apology too.

  • jimiley

    May 25, 2009 at 11:27 PM

    Comment #38

    Martins can F…k off with Owen, Smith, Geremi, Colo, Jonas, Stroller, Butt, Barton, Nolan, R Taylor, Lovenkrans and a few others. These mercenaries did not even try all season long. I hope they rot in hell. hell is called Coventry or Sheffield on a quarter of the wages.. They will not know what they have had until they taste the devil’s cup. Burn in hell you lazy wasters.

  • Toon_Factor

    May 25, 2009 at 11:33 PM

    Comment #39

    Sorry Mags, when im on here i seem to presume Im talking to men, totally forgot about women fans, I was wondering why some comments on here didnt make sense- only joking 😉

  • VanCanToonFan

    May 25, 2009 at 11:37 PM

    Comment #40

    The thing that stood out most for me this season was the complete ineptitude by the central midfield. BLOW IT UP!

    Anyone complaining about the lack of scoring this season need look no further than the consistently pathetic service up to the forwards to know why we couldn’t put the ball in the net. Yeah, of course Martins had a crap season. Any striker would have had a crap season with the deliveries he had to put up with.

    Maybe hold onto Guthrie, since he’s still young and still learning his trade, but as for Butt, Nolan, Smith, Barton, Geremi, et al: get rid of them and start again. They are all overpaid and past their prime.


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