We have always said that when it come down to it, it’s the players who must take the ultimate responsibility of taking Newcastle United to relegation from the Premier League for the first time in their history.
Alan Shearer - completely gutted yesterday
After the game yesterday – in our utter desperation at being relegated when it would have been so easy to stay up – like scoring one goal – we also had a go at Mike Ashley.
But what Alan says is what everybody in their heart knows – it has to be the players who take the hit because we’ve been relegated. It hasn’t been easy for them, but hey, jobs shouldn’t be easy when you are paid outlandish sums like £60K/week.
Alan talked about being busy all the time these last 8 weeks, but take a top executive business job at a top company, and you are hardly ever in the country, never mind just being away from home. Just ask my wife what it was like, when I was at IBM the last 10 years.
No – footballers are spoiled – there’s little doubt about that – and seem not to understand how the real world of business actually works. That’s because they’ve never been in it.
It’s just nonsense that players are paid the amounts they are, for what they do, and they have precious little responsibility – for anything.
It was the squad – paid £74M in wages for this season, who just were not good enough. And Mike Ashley had a staff for which he was paying out huge wages, and had the right to expect more – a lot more from his players.
And if it’s one thing Alan Shearer is good at, it’s telling the plain truth straight up – just like his mentor Kevin Keegan used to do, and Alan says Newcastle United’s relegation is squarely the fault of the players.
Shearer said:
“When you get in that rut, it’s very difficult to get out of. I’ve just told the players that they can make all the excuses they like. Shearer wasn’t good enough, Ashley wasn’t good enough, Chris Hughton, Kevin Keegan, Joe Kinnear – forget that.”
“It’s what’s in the dressing room that’s not been good enough.”
“Whoever comes in, there needs to be an overhaul. The sooner the better. Other clubs will have a head start. We are going to be a big scalp in the Championship. What’s important now is that we get back on track.”
Shearer, who was almost in tears (like the rest of us) when he was talking, added:
“I will sit down with the owner and the chairman this week and give my opinions. You talk about me making a decision, but they might not even ask me. They will ask my opinion.”
“I haven’t had time to sit down and think. Decisions need to be made sooner rather than later. There are huge problems. It’s not just about today.”
“It’s gone on this season, last season, the season before, it’s a culmination of everything. We are now paying the price for that.”
Derek Llambias also said this morning that he and Mike would sit down with Alan and discuss things, and as Alan says, there’s so much to be put right at the club.
Whoever is in charge must start now, because the Championship kicks off in early August, earlier than the Premier League.
One way to lift the severe doom and gloom on Tyneside, is to put together a winning side for next season. We wish.
111 responses so far ↓
1 serene0380 // May 25, 2009 at 7:57 AM
TO ALL NEWCASTLE FANS OUT THERE
Please don’t give up on Newcastle United Team. Please continue to support them! They WILL BE BACK NEXT SEASON TO PREMIUM LEAGUE!!!
2 serene0380 // May 25, 2009 at 7:59 AM
Please continue to support them.
It’s really very sad, disappointment and hurting for all of us but that’s the only way that can really clean up the whole mess of the management team and the players.
They will be back to Premium League next season… Please continue continue to support them! They need your support!!!
3 True fan // May 25, 2009 at 7:59 AM
I posted this on another thread, but this is how i feel about newcastle
‘well.. prepare yourselves for a very long comment…..
I am going to say things that alot of you wont agree on but im going to make bullet points about a few things:
1) Mike Ashley can be held responsible for relegating this once great football club but the fact of the matter is the players did it. At the end of the day the players are the ones playing on the pitch, get payed 10’s of thousands of pounds each week and they put in sorry performances week in week out.
2) Im not the greatest fan of Mike Ashley, and i also blame him partly for us going down, but he did sell some very good players like given, n’zogbia and milner, but they wanted away from newcastle, dont forget that, fair enough we wanted rid of n’zogbia because of his whinging but given wanted away because he had 10 years of newcastle and he got nothing in return. Mike Ashley allowed funds for transfers, but the funds were spent terribly, par a few exceptions (Bassong, Beye)
3) Stop with the Ashley hate brigade, yes i dont like him either, but where would this club be if he hadnt come in and saved us from financial meltdown (and dont have any snide comments, for example, ‘we would be in the PL!’) the truth is we wouldn’t prbably be a club anymore
4) Now for the players. I feel there are only a few players who i believe should wear our proud shirt.:
Steven Taylor; he plays his heart out for this club and him coming out yesterday and saying he’ll stay with us no matter what just shows what a great loyal lad he is
Steve Harper; hes waited what, 16 years for the no1 goalkeeper spot at newcastle? sorry if i got the number wrong but he definately spent a hell of a lot of years waitng for it, and if that doesnt show loyalty, i dont no what does
Damien Duff; i admit, he hasnt been the best player for us this season or any other season perhaps, but he is another player who truely tries his hardest to help this club and runs his socks off for us
Nicky Butt; Yes i said it, nicky butt. Butt has been an ever present in our team all season and its got me wondering why. Is it the fact he concedes too many free kicks or penaltys? No, its because although he may not have the pace anymore, but he still runs his heart out, and the only reason he gives away too many free kicks and penaltys is because hes the one chasing back and trying to help our defense, who desperately need it. So lay off the hate butt campaign, the fact of the matter is, he tries his best, although it may not be enough for you cynical fans (not everybody)
There may be others who deserve to wear our shirt, but there the main ones i believe…
5) Now for the managers (this season).
It all started so well for us, a draw against the mighty man utd, then a win against bolton and coventrt, then it all went pear shaped. Milner was sold, we lost to arsenal and then KK resigned. This for me was the turning point of our season (yes, so early wasnt it?). KK resigning left us managerless for a number of games whilst we were losing precious points, which now come back to haunt us. We dont know the exact reasons why he left us, but we have a fairly clear clue, he resigned because he working relationship with dennis wise went out of the window, and he gave ashely and ultiamtum, me or wise. Ashely chose the latter and now he fully regrets it.
Then came along the brave Joe Kinnear. Im not his biggest fan but he came in when no one else would, and i mean it, no one. He tried his best where he could but really, our season was already doomed.
Joe fell in and then came in Alan Shearer. I’ll be honest, i was delighted when he came in, i though we would definately stay up, but it was not to be and i hope he definately stays with us, we love him as much as he loves us.
6) this is my first ever post on this great blog, but i have read it for about a year now, and i have to say, what a year it has been
I know you’ll all think, what a sad loser for writing this much without stopping, but the truth is, i felt i had too, i’ve read and read comments about fans bickering, fans fighting, fans commenting on their ridiculous transfer wishes, but now i felt i had to say something. For the true fans like me out there, stop being so negtive i.e critising players (although they may deserve), stop hating ashley (although he has made terrible decisions) and show your true support to NUFC for next season, yea we may be in the championship, but that doesnt mean we cant get promoted straight away does it, birmingham have just done it so why cant we?
Keep the faith NUFC supporters, and be their for our players next season, they will need it.’
Just another comment, for everybody who feels i dont support newcastle, heres some reasons why i do, i was born and bred here, i was born the same hear we got promoted into what is now the PL, and for us to get relegated this year was heart wrenching, i tried to fight back the tears but i couldnt, i will be there next season for newcastle in the championship, as i am a true fan of NUFC
4 davis_toons // May 25, 2009 at 8:01 AM
I now just HOPE newcastle won’t be a disgrace in the COKE league.
Please go back to where you belongs,
If Shearer goes, i really dont know will we be back again.
The same old shit is going to happen again i’m afraid…..
If AS leaves newcastle
XXX appointed
XXX leaves /sack /health problem
YYY appointed
YYY leaves / sack /health problem
ZZZ appointed
ZZZ leaves / sack /health problem
….
…
.
We will be beyond hope already by then.
Please dont happen.
Some of our fans dont have that many 10 years to wait.
5 Norwegian_geordie // May 25, 2009 at 8:06 AM
Relegated by an own goal.
The best way to summarize this season.
There was no blood, sweat and tears. Except from S. Taylor and Alan.
Some players gave a decent performance, but all in all, this season, has been lacking og comitment.
Get rid of the dead wood.
to kick of the transfer window.. Lets bring in Skjelbred from Norway.
Use a translator for this article:
http://www.vg.no/sport/fotball/norsk/artikkel.php?artid=553686
Skjelbreds nightmareday.
He’s a massive NUFC supporter and I’m sure, will be a really good adition to the team.
He’s got pace, stamina and a bright head (as he is a NUFC supporter)
I hope our starting elleven will look somewhat like this next season.
———— Harper————
H. Beye – S. Taylor – S. Bassong – J. Enrique
Skjelbred – Guthrie – CREATIVNESS – Jonas
———- Carrol – Martins (?)
I know Martins, Beye and Bassong problably won’t be here next season. But I sure hope we can keep at least Beye and turn NUFC up side down to keep Bassong. He will be great!
What about scouting another norwegian..
Stokkelien – 19 years.. Allready scored 4 goals in the Norwegian division.
6 nufcindia // May 25, 2009 at 8:08 AM
Give me the job
nufcindia@gmail.com
the blame has to go to many people. Mr Ashley needs to take the blame for what he did in the beginning of the season. JK has to take it. I think we had a team good enough to finish top half. But the way the managers made them play made us finish 18th. i have seen many comments saying we should get shearer in as manager. yes he has done some good things. he recognized that caroll was better than ameobi. But what does the results say. 1 win in 8. and i have seen no improvement in the way we played. No crosses going in from the wings. long hopeless balss still going in from deep. Some managers concentrate more on what happens outside the pitch when everything that is worthwhile happens on it. i think he is one of that managers.Tacticallu not good enough. and about butt, i have to say again he is good defensively but what is he doing when he gets the ball. watch the last 10 matches and you will see. This is one of things that made me think about shearer. he never saw that or he made butt do that which is even worse.
7 davis_toons // May 25, 2009 at 8:13 AM
True fan // May 25, 2009 at 7:59 AM
Just finish reading your post…woo..
But tat’s just wat TRUE FAN thinks alike. TOTALLY AGREED !!! Good ONE!!!
WE NEED MORE FANS JUST LIKE U.
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ED, thank you for your hardwork and effort put in this blog for us.
8 nufcindia // May 25, 2009 at 8:18 AM
the ultimate person to blame is the manager not the players. shearer had only 8 games. that can be an excuse. but the pperson in complete control is the manager.for example in case of a striker to judge you should take the goals to chances ratio. now tell me how many chances did any of our strikers get yestrday. i have to say again the team was tactically nothing.i think the center of the midfield was the biggest mistake
9 True fan // May 25, 2009 at 8:21 AM
thanks davis_toons
nice to know some people agree with me
10 sirjasontoon // May 25, 2009 at 8:22 AM
What is done is done we have been a poor side for 4 seasons or so and it has ended in disaster.
We are rotten to the core,the owner is an idiot and the players are not Premiership quality.
Teams like Hull,Stoke and even the Mackems have got some fight in them that makes up for what they lack in skill…we have none of the things that count in football..Pride,Fight and Passion.
11 Hugh de Payen // May 25, 2009 at 8:30 AM
A lot depends upon what Ashley does next.
He’ll want to cut expenses significantly but will he allocate enough for us to build a team capable of winning the Championship?
A lot of players will need replacing and that could be relatively expensive in itself.
12 BT9MAG // May 25, 2009 at 8:34 AM
True fan, what you’re saying is predominantly true, I disagree on a few points, but that is what opinions are for at the end of the day…
…Ashley took a massive gamble in not putting further funds into the club – but that didn’t make Michael Owen play badly, or Joey Barton act like a tool, or Oba Martins get injured…
He can’t take sole responsibility HOWEVER he must take some, after all – we’ve NEVER been relegated from the premiership until he came along!
13 sirjasontoon // May 25, 2009 at 8:35 AM
Hugh-Be very interesting to see what happens,I think Mike will sell now which is positive.
14 BT9MAG // May 25, 2009 at 8:40 AM
SJT – I agree, with the exception of a couple of the youngsters (stevie taylor and danny guthrie) I thought the whole of the team yesterday were gutless, spineless, lazy scum!
15 Thump // May 25, 2009 at 8:47 AM
I agree 100% True Fan. Nice to see a straight thinker.
Anyway, I’m going to say my thanks to Ed now for running such a great blog. It’s just a shame it couldn’t end on a higher note.
16 sirjasontoon // May 25, 2009 at 8:48 AM
The players should be ashamed of themselves.
17 Girth // May 25, 2009 at 8:51 AM
heres one for ya that was brought up in the pub yesterday:
joey barton could get us 15 goals in the championship next season,
should we really get rid? Do we have the luxury?
18 Hugh de Payen // May 25, 2009 at 8:51 AM
There are lots of problems with Newcastle United and people have variously blamed players, managers, owners, chairmen, directors of football and just about everything else.
But I think at the bottom of all those problems lies a root cause and that’s that the club haven’t had a long-term plan.
Both Shepherd and Ashley seemed to simply react to events, fire-fighting all the time and searching for instant successes.
The club needs to figure out where it wants to be (and can realistically be on the finances it has) in 3 years, 5 years and even 10 years.
Then it needs to formulate a plan and build slowly towards it, appointing a chairman and a manager who will see it through together for at least 5 years.
19 ginkoh // May 25, 2009 at 8:58 AM
We can blame anyone in th world for our relegateion but whatever happen I will let you know we all Newcastle supporter in Thailand will be with team forever. Even my Prime Minister Abhisit, he’s real Geordie too.
20 dougnufc // May 25, 2009 at 8:59 AM
I am proud to be a geordie. And I will support the team more than ever!
21 ObaFan2 // May 25, 2009 at 9:09 AM
The fact that the owner did not back the right man at the start of the season and caused a succession of poor replacements throughout the season leaving the players (and us) wondering what the heck is going on.
However true professionals get on with it and it shows how shallow some of our over-paid players really are.
It’s been a season from hell, our owner gambled with the club’s status in the EPL and lost, selling talented players and banking the money.
WE ALL KNEW OUR MIDFIELD HAD NO PLAY MAKER and now we suffer because of it. Taylor, Oba and Duff seemed like some of the few who really tried.
Owen is a disgrace and should have been given his cards weeks ago.
Shearer says the dressing room is to blame… and ok I hear what you say but our inept owner has caused choas and for me he is to blame, a gambler and someone who appointed friends above talent.
22 cg // May 25, 2009 at 9:13 AM
True fan – hear hear!
Swedish toon here – which nullifies any born or bred “rights” some of you have, I know. However I’ve been a fan since early/mid 80s (basically when you’re at the age you discover there actually are teams outside your local town), and do too consider myself true to the toon – championship or not.
We can argue faults and lay blame til judgement day comes, it won’t change what has happened. Let’s just hope and cheer for a rejuvination of the club. A healthy overdue cleansing. And a steadfast march back to glory!
23 batty // May 25, 2009 at 9:16 AM
Girth // May 25, 2009 at 8:51 AM
heres one for ya that was brought up in the pub yesterday:
joey barton could get us 15 goals in the championship next season,
should we really get rid? Do we have the luxury?
<<< ithink your right there m8 along with duff
24 komfort // May 25, 2009 at 9:21 AM
nowt like a full english to perk you up..now off to the metro centre to get me new toon top….not…..ash ya fat pounce you’ve had ya last penny off me , now sell up and leave.
25 ObaFan2 // May 25, 2009 at 9:23 AM
I’d be happy to rely on our reserves and watch them next season and get rid of every first team player.
I say that because the ones I’d like to keep, like Oba, will be gone anyway and the rest are mostly gutless wonders.
You think Barton deserves to wear B&W? you think he’d be happy in the championship? well I don’t.
26 batty // May 25, 2009 at 9:23 AM
GIRTH i dont know how old u are but i supported the club when we were in a worse state than this so it is nowt new to me but we will be back and i think it will be next season
27 batty // May 25, 2009 at 9:26 AM
komfort how u feelin m8 life goe,s on u know
28 Girth // May 25, 2009 at 9:27 AM
batty
The conclusion we came to is that it will purely come down to personal opinion and money with Barton. I think he will stay if given the chance, but this relies on the next manager’s willingness/want to work with him, and of course, if the club feels he justifies his wages. Would the transfer fee be better than having him here? Is he expendable? Can we simply afford him?
Difficult possition because quite honestly, he is the best midfielder we have, and that’s the sad truth…
29 komfort // May 25, 2009 at 9:27 AM
morning batts , very angry mate.
30 batty // May 25, 2009 at 9:29 AM
agree girth we have to try and keep hold of some of our better players cos lets face it there all owe us
31 komfort // May 25, 2009 at 9:31 AM
i can’t recall barton playing for us..another overpaid waster..get rid !
32 batty // May 25, 2009 at 9:32 AM
komfort i feel like a beaten man m8 it dusent help realy wen every one in me hoose support the toon i try pick me self up but the rest are still mopeing around
33 ObaFan2 // May 25, 2009 at 9:34 AM
Last season wasn’t much different and took KK a long while to turn things around. Nothing was learnt by the club then.
To think a draw in one of our last 2 games would have saved us!
34 batty // May 25, 2009 at 9:34 AM
komfort a think we should keep hold of some of them to make them play in the championship as punishment
35 komfort // May 25, 2009 at 9:35 AM
aye batts, it’s so frustrating mate..
36 batty // May 25, 2009 at 9:36 AM
this season is the worst ive ever know for buying shit players
37 Girth // May 25, 2009 at 9:37 AM
Batty
yeah im with you on the worse state, im 28, so i started watching them when we sucked balls and then Keegan came and the rest is history. Im as gutted as everyone one else but we only have to look at west ham, man city as examples that life goes on and tomorrow is another day (as well as other clichés) and we will be back! And furthermore, in a far better state than what we left it in!
But this brings another question to WHY people are so gutted?
Do people support NUFC or the Premier League?
Will people only support if we are on TV?
People, we are in a recession and we have been relegated, more than ever the club needs our help, we need to spend (and I mean us, the fans) our way out of this, go and see the team play, put your money into the club, as without it, and of course the tv revenues were now missing out on, lack of support WILL affect the club for the worse. A lot has been said about decisions people higher up in the club and what impact they have made, that’s history now, as of next season, WE are in the position to help, WE can now make or break this club…
38 ObaFan2 // May 25, 2009 at 9:38 AM
Which players would you like to keep Batty?
serious question, Just some wouldn’t wanna and would end up showing on the pitch imo.
39 batty // May 25, 2009 at 9:38 AM
be truthfull iam looking forward to getting that winning feeling back agen u would of thought we won the leauge wen we beat the smoggys the other week
40 True fan // May 25, 2009 at 9:39 AM
BT9MAG, im alright with you disagreeing with some points, lyk u sed, thats what opinions are for.
i dont mean to start this debate already because the seasons just finished, but here are some people i would like to see in newcastle shirt next season:
barry ferguson-WBA are interested, so why cant we be interested?
kevin doyle-good championship goalscorer
jason scotland- looks a very good player at championship standard
jermaine beckford- scored 30+ goals at leeds this season, maybe he can help us?
fox- looks a good LB
stephen hunt- looks loyal to reading, maybe be loyal to us if he came in, also a good midfielder
ingimarsson- looks good championship player, also got good shot on him
leroy lita?- i know im saying alot of strikers, but hes quick, strong and can finish, more than i can say for owen
chris eagles- only come to us if burnley fail to get promoted, looks a good player
peter ramage- dont know alot about him anymore, but hes tall and could deal with aerial threats, like are defence cant at the moment
mceveley- derby LB, could give cover to enrique if he stays, unlikely though
giles barnes- sed hes returning to derby, looked good at derby and hes young
wheater- sed hes stayin at middlesbrough, but could we tempt him to us?
adam johnson- good winger, fast and able to track back
there are more players i would want but i dont want to get carried away (although i might already have
)
these players along with harper, beye, R Taylor and S Taylor, enrique (maybe), guthrie, butt, guttierez (maybe), nolan (has to stay, only signed him in Jan), duff (would love to keep him), ameobi, carroll, ranger and viduka (love the guy, could only offer him half his wages and pay as you play deal) would look good in a newcastle championship team
i hope we sign a few of them and keep the rest, as i cant see us retaining owen(dont want him anyway) martins
, geremi 
, collocini, bassong, cacapa (who?), smith and xisco,
i would also love to keep lovernkarnds and barton (great player, terrible attitude) but i can see them moving on, maybe lovernkrands will stay, i remain hopeful
41 batty // May 25, 2009 at 9:40 AM
girth yeah iam 40 and remember it as though it was yesterday m8
42 ObaFan2 // May 25, 2009 at 9:41 AM
Girth, playing the likes of Man U, L’pool etc is where we should be not the championship but a Geordie till the day I die so I will still support the team whatever.
43 harry861 // May 25, 2009 at 9:41 AM
Re True fan
I agree almost in total what you have stated. I have been fan of Newcastle United when my Dad took to see them in 1939 & through thick & thin will always be a fan, I am 78 years old.
They keep on about Butt & Duff you summed it up to a T.
I’ve said lots of times the people who advised Ashley on the organisation & running the club want shooting & whoever thought of bringing Wise & Company wants to be named.
The problem lies further back than Ashley, take Freddie Sheperd getting players with promises & take Michael Owen as an example & was the payment for Owen paid in full ?
What legacy did he leave, sacking of Sir Bobby Robson after a few games of new season who my opinion was one of the best managers we have had.
In some ways I blame Kevin Keegan for not stating when he was persuaded to take over manager that he should have had it down in writing he was responsible for running the team & buying player. I can understand how he felt when out of the blue Wise & Company appeared on scene. What would we have done in that situation ? My personal thoughts he should resisted this & stayed fought his corner.
I do hope Alan Shearer stays & Ashley don’t waste time & gave him contract with full authority to run the playing side & buying of players.
I am sure that’s the terms Alan would need, He was great centre forward & one of my favourites & we’ve had some great ones in my time.
Will always be loyal to my team Newcastle United.
44 batty // May 25, 2009 at 9:44 AM
ObaFan2 duff s taylor beye guthre barton oba butt and bassong but i cant see him staying
45 batty // May 25, 2009 at 9:45 AM
ObaFan2 the team dont deserve prem football like u sed 1 point out of the last 2 games would have saved us
46 Toon_Factor // May 25, 2009 at 9:46 AM
http://www.eyefootball.com/news/8549/Jordi-Gomez-to-Newcastle?/
47 Toon_Factor // May 25, 2009 at 9:47 AM
batty
Steven Taylor said himself that he is staying
48 ObaFan2 // May 25, 2009 at 9:48 AM
batty, yeah I can agree with most of the list but Oba will be gone
Barton may have had his last chance but a good player.
Will be interesting to see what the players decide.
49 geordie deb // May 25, 2009 at 10:01 AM
Morning Lads
Well the first day of life in the championship.
I think what annoyed me yesterday wasn’t the fact we went down as it seemed almost inevitable when lady luck shined on us the past few weeks and we couldn’t take advantage of it, but really the manner in which it happened. We’ve all watched some really poor players for The Toon over the years but as bad as some of them were at least they had some fight in them. Yesterday with a few exceptions the heads went down, they didn’t challenge and just seemed to give up or were past caring. I think that’s the reason AS layed the blame at their door and from that perspective I agree with him. To not fight and give up like a bunch of spineless wonders, passing into the championship without a fight is the hardest thing to swallow.
Nevertheless, we can now hopefully offload quite a few of them, and in a strange way I feel optimistic that this could really be a long overdue ‘new start’ for NUFC. Yes a club such as ours sould be in the premiership but we’re just not good enough so lets clear the decks, rebuild, invest some of the money we get from offloading the journeymen and have a root and branch restructure with a 5 year plan. Hopefully whoever is our owner won’t veer from the strategy when some of the fans start jumpingup and down as they inevitably will and the mangement team stay steadfast with the long term vision.
Our hopefully short visit to the championship will also rid us of the ‘plastic fans’ they can clear off and follow someone else as we don’t need them. As Batty and others have said we’ve been in the equivalent of the championship before and survived. You never know we might even see some silverware in the future if we win it – we did the last time! So stay positive and lets stay together supporting NUFC no matter what league they are in
50 ObaFan2 // May 25, 2009 at 10:06 AM
Mornin’ deb,
Yeah depressing though ain’t it
My 3 favourite games while in the EPL:
3, Peter Pan’s testimonial
2, V Barca, Tino’s hattrick
1, V Man U 5-0 Albert’s lob for 5
51 Ericles // May 25, 2009 at 10:08 AM
Of course we will still support NUFC, but not that shower of gutless shite that turned at Villa Park yesterday. Get rid of nearly all of them. Keep Harper and Steve Taylor, try and keep Bassong and Enrique but show the rest of them the door. As for Owen? My heart sank when Shearer put that little useless mercenary on the pitch. We are going up, we are going up!!!
52 neeraj // May 25, 2009 at 10:13 AM
the players we would be able to keep
harper, both the taylor, nolan(he wont be on a high wage), beye, enrique(has always said he wants to stay and comp his contract), butt, ameobi (why???)
out would be- duff(on 70k), barton, owen(already out, thank god), smith, cacapa, geremi, bassong, oba, collo, jonas……
bring in the youngsters lua lua, ranger, godsmark, kadar….
buys-
i couldnt believe ppl are not looking at
owen garavan- good cm and
micheal chopra(he is good in championship)
jordi gomez
jonjo shelvey
kevin doyle, stephen hunt, sturridge(he is out of contract)
and may be two center backs and a left back
53 batty // May 25, 2009 at 10:13 AM
ObaFan2 ide have to put the 4 3 beating of leicster in that wen shearer scored a hatrick after being 3 1 down
54 geordie deb // May 25, 2009 at 10:14 AM
Obafan2
Good picks there. Other thing I loved about the Man U game was after Shearer scored and him running in front of the Manure fans who had been giving him so much stick, the looks on their faces.
55 ian // May 25, 2009 at 10:14 AM
If we are serious about getting back up then the owner could do with subsidising Oba, Butt and Harper to stay on for a season, after that I would agree with young players but Shola should be ok in the championship.
Butt had the best awareness on the pitch for defense, he was angry with Harper for not shouting and it led to the pin ball goal, he is like others have said the ideal captain.
56 batty // May 25, 2009 at 10:15 AM
neeraj with that eam we would be in the chapionship for years to come
57 Foluwashola Ameobi // May 25, 2009 at 10:15 AM
Thanks for the great blog Ed and I am sorry it has to end on such a bad note. You have been great and if only the team put in as much effort as you have on this blog. Good Luck in the future.
58 geordie deb // May 25, 2009 at 10:17 AM
Batty
Another great game. One of his goals unbelieveable it really seemd the net would burst with the sheer power of the shot…. oh happy days…. talking about these great games think I will watch some of my DVDs today as looks like it’s going to pour down outside
59 batty // May 25, 2009 at 10:17 AM
ian i know people slag butt and he,s not the quickest of players but he,s a hard worker m8
60 batty // May 25, 2009 at 10:18 AM
has ED sed wen its ending
61 hitman // May 25, 2009 at 10:18 AM
where you from like deb the sun is shinning on tyneside.lol
62 geordie deb // May 25, 2009 at 10:19 AM
Ian
I’m sorry but I can’t think Shola is even championship standard.
63 ObaFan2 // May 25, 2009 at 10:20 AM
lol memories, let’s hope we have many more good days again and very soon cos I ain’t gettin any younger.
Last 2 seasons have aged me 10 years atleast
64 geordie deb // May 25, 2009 at 10:21 AM
Hitman
I’m from Newcastle but moved around a lot with work, now living in the midlands but heart still on Tyneside
65 neeraj // May 25, 2009 at 10:22 AM
batty
its not the full team of course i dont have an idea abt left and right wingers who would be good, and center back and few centre mid, this is name which first came to my mind
i knew good center mid i.e. owen garvan and jordi gomez and jonjo(he would be good in future), with nolan
and strikers i.e. chopra(he has scored at champ level) and doyle (same as chopra)
66 batty // May 25, 2009 at 10:23 AM
HITMAN what do u think gana happen now m8
67 Toon_Factor // May 25, 2009 at 10:24 AM
geordie deb
Lets face it Ameobi cant play football.
68 ObaFan2 // May 25, 2009 at 10:25 AM
Back to reality, I’ll look forward to watching LuaLua and Ranger etc.
Shame some of the youngsters couldn’t have played a bigger part this season, I seem to remember Roeder did ok with the young un’s when he struggled for fit “first” teamers.
69 batty // May 25, 2009 at 10:26 AM
geordie deb ware aboots in the midlands pet
70 Partizan // May 25, 2009 at 10:35 AM
For me its so obvious that the relegation wont hit Ashley’s pockets as bad as everyone thinks.
Lets see why,shall we.
Out:
Owen-105k
Viduka-60-70 k
Smith-60 k + 3 mill at least from the transfer fee
Geremi-60k + 2 mill from the transfer fee
Martins-50-70 k + 9-10 transfer fee
Butt-50-60k + 1 mill
Barton 50-60 k + 3-4 mill transfer fee
Cacapa-40 k
Coloccini-50-60 k + 9-10 mill transfer fee
Jonas-50 k + 8-9 mill transfer fee
Xisco-40-50 k + 4 mill transfer fee
Bassong-??? + 7-8 mill transfer fee
Thats around 700k pw and 32 mill per season including the 45-47 mill from the transfer fees.
My opinion is that as soon as we get the promotion,he’ll sell the club for at least 180 mill.
71 batty // May 25, 2009 at 10:35 AM
i just hope shearer stays
72 hitman // May 25, 2009 at 10:35 AM
batty,fk nos m8,but we all want to be worried about ashley next move.because ashley will do whats best for him not whats best for newcastle united.
73 geordie deb // May 25, 2009 at 10:40 AM
Hi Batty
Near Leicester. At least on the bright side will also get to see a good few games down here next season LOL
74 neeraj // May 25, 2009 at 10:45 AM
partizan thats 12 players out
we need around 16- 17 players in, coz we were already short in no.s before the start of this season,
so that if we pay 30k to all player thats around 500k a week + to buy those players we need that much amount of money on transfers…..
so dont worry ashley is losing, which is what he deserves, but not what the club deserves
75 Foluwashola Ameobi // May 25, 2009 at 10:46 AM
Everyone in Birmingham sounds like Stan Collymore. What a horrible place.
76 Obafan // May 25, 2009 at 10:46 AM
Well what a disaster it was yesterday.
I think the club has to rebuild completely.
1. Starting with a new owner: Ashley is the cause for about 90% of the relegation. He hasn’t learned from his mistakes last season (what would have happenned if we lost at Brum last year???). From the beginning of this season he has caused concern in the heads of managerial staff, players, fans, … When you play for a ‘big’ club, which is constantly put in negative daylight it is very difficult to load the batteries week after week (tho’ it is not an excuse for n,ot showing passion!!!).
2. Managers; 4 managers for 38 games; what a ridiculous number that is. Keegan walked away at the beginning (so I think there was plenty of time to get a new manager and to stabalise the club). Under KK the football started to look like football and the results were good (ManU; Bolton). Kinnear well he took the job nobody wanted, but let’s all be serious; he hadn’t got a clue about how managing the team. Hughton was thrown (for the 2nd time) in front of the lions again, but we cannot blame him, he is not made to be a first team manager. Shearer, well we cannot blame him; the results did not went his way at all. I question some of his decisions (Guti had to be brought on yesterday; …), but would it have changed the outcome???
3. The players did not have an easy season, but some of them are a disgrace to this club.
* Harper: is no leader in his goal; average at best.
* Beye: class act, but injured and after his injury never got his best level.
* Colo: never worth 10m.
* Bassong: good and solid, but the last couple of weeks the pressure was getting on him too
* Enrique: most of the time injured and no backup for him
* R. Taylor: the man we bought to safe us. What a bad player he is. I hope we get rid of him, cause even in CCC he will be average at best.
* S Taylor: he showed the passion to fight for the club
* Guti: running, running, dribbling, bdribbling => no end product; but he tried his best
* Butt: scandalous; one of the reasons that we relegate
* Nolan: had his worst season ever and NUFC decided to buy him in January (what a joke)
* Duff: tried and was very unlucky yesterday. Never got his best level, but he ran his socks off.
* Guthrie: young and bright future, but not capable of doing any good under the huge pressure (esp yesterday he was one of the worst on the pitch)
* Geremi: where the hell is he??? I think he could have helped us (instead of Butt)
* Owen: go as far as you can ; you useless pr*ck
* Oba: I will miss him; he did not play at his best, but what kind of service did he get (should have scored yesterday)
* Viduka: could have saved us, but did not get enough descent balls and the support around him wasn’t great either
* Carroll: passion; fighting spirit; good lad
* Ameobi; what does he do to keep getting into the team.
And the last remark:
What would have happenned if Howard Webb counted the equalizer against Fulham last week?????
77 Partizan // May 25, 2009 at 10:52 AM
Neeraj…..Read between the lines mate.
Do you actually believe that those 12 players will be replaced with other 17.
Maybe 12-14 from which 3-4 of them will be loaned players and others will be cheap ones on 10 k pw.
78 beyethegreat // May 25, 2009 at 10:59 AM
well the good news is season tickets should be cheaper so may be able to afford a 1 this year
but id still to be in the prem
79 GEORDIE69 // May 25, 2009 at 11:00 AM
NEWCASTLE TILL I DIE!!! KEEP THE FAITH!!! Balls deep!
80 beyethegreat // May 25, 2009 at 11:05 AM
http://www.villatalk.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=52267
81 hitman // May 25, 2009 at 11:16 AM
what ever happens next needs to be done now ashley carnt drag his knuckles.
82 Partizan // May 25, 2009 at 11:16 AM
These are the players i think we could and should get and still be great ones to keep in case we get the promotion.
1-Francesko Lodi from Empoli….AM,CF
2-Marco di Vaio from Bologna….. ST
3-Marco Engelhardt from Karlsruhe….CM
4-Eden Hazard from Lille(loan)……..LW
5-Chris Eagles from Burnley…………..RW
83 euanpolo // May 25, 2009 at 11:21 AM
I have already started to think about players etc. for next season. We should sell off the dead wood and start again, keeping Shearer as manager. I’m sure we can release or sell many of the players we don’t want (and unfortunately a few we do), cue Tottenham and West Ham! Possible team for next season:
Steve Harper
Kyle Naughton (Sheffield Utd) / Angel Rangel (Swansea City) – depending on who wins the play-off final.
Steven Taylor
Roger Johnson (Cardiff City)
Daniel Fox (Coventry City)
Fabian Delph (Leeds Utd)
Danny Guthrie
Jordi Gomez (Swansea City)
Peter Lovenkrands
Simon Cox (Swindon Town)
Andy Carroll
SUBS – Tim Krul, David Edgar, Tamas Kadar, Brad Inman, Haris Vuckic, Ryan Donaldson, Nile Ranger.
Bring on the Championship!
84 euanpolo // May 25, 2009 at 11:22 AM
For more info on players above look at:
http://www.givemefootball.com/pfa-awards/championship-teams-of-the-year-voted-by-the-player
and
http://www.givemefootball.com/pfa-awards/league-one-teams-of-the-year-voted-by-the-players
85 jimiley // May 25, 2009 at 11:33 AM
I wonder when Joe Kinnear will be fit to resume as manager? Why should Shearer continue as a manager. One win in eight and spineless performances. We knew he had little tactical knowledge but we all expected some passion with him in charge. A great player usually means a crap manager… Bryan Robson, Bobby Moore, Bobby Charlton. The list goes on. Oh and by the way, Jack Charlton was not a great player. He was a clogger.
86 jimiley // May 25, 2009 at 11:39 AM
Shearer played the same crap players that Hughton and JK selected. Butt seemed the first name in centre mid. Old and slow. The team selection screamed out for a young and fast player in the middle. It needed a fresh approach and Alan failed big time.What is the point in coming in and picking the same players? In the last 8 games we went down without a fight. Shearer blames the players. Not a smart move Alan. Now you will be forced to clear them out. I wonder what our manager JK thinks about all this. Has he died or has he been gagged? Still no comment from our illustrious leader big fat MA. No change there then. He treats the fans with total contempt.
87 euanpolo // May 25, 2009 at 11:40 AM
jimiley – Saying things like that is what has got us into this mess. We need to choose a manager and stick with them. I don’t think we can judge Shearer after 8 games. I don’t think Shearer has to been the manager (personally I would prefer someone like Roberto Martinez, Adrian Boothroyd, Gary Johnson or Steve Coppell).
88 Rodzilla // May 25, 2009 at 11:42 AM
…well I’m just hoping Burnley get promoted today and not the Blades – I have to cycle past Bramall Lane every day, and considering I wear TOON shirts to ride in, the abuse potential would be huge (although I’ve been getting the “going down” jibes for the last 2 months anyway).
Utd going up and us going down would be pretty awful – plus it’s my ‘local’ ground and would be nice to see the TOON there this year!
…one last, sad, little attempt at a consolation prize for me.
89 the holy grail // May 25, 2009 at 11:43 AM
watching sky sports news was awfull yeasteday, watching grown men cry because their club has been religated by the players, well done to those that gave good interviews on there aswell all showing geordie fans in the best light.
some people on here are like sheep, y-day it was ashleys fault but now because shearer has blames the players now everyone jumps on the band wagon, HOW CANT IT NOT BE THE PLAYERS FAULT THEY ARE 100% ACCOUNTABLE this is the team that 1 week is good enough to draw with man u and chelski yet draw with the likes of stoke, correct me if am wrong but we only beat 1 team above us all season VILLA. the players player for player are better then most other teams yet we have been religated it is them who should be punished not the fans, but they will just walk away but the fans cant AND SHOULDNT I SHOULD ADD.
PLEASE ALL TRUE NUFC FANS SHOW NEXT SEASON WE ARE THE BEST IN THE WORLD WITH OUR TRUE SUPPORT FOR THE CLUB, SHOW THE REST OF THE WORLD THAT WE ARE THE BEST AND THAT IT WILL TAKE MORE THAN SOME OVERPAID, UNDERPREFORMING PLAYERS TO BREAK OUR CLUB!!!
90 euanpolo // May 25, 2009 at 11:43 AM
jimiley – Saying things like that is what has got us into this mess. We need to choose a manager and stick with them. I don’t think we can judge Shearer after 8 games. However I don’t think Shearer necessarily has to been the manager (personally I would prefer someone like Roberto Martinez, Adrian Boothroyd, Gary Johnson or Steve Coppell).
91 the holy grail // May 25, 2009 at 11:51 AM
this mite be synical but i wonder if this would still have happened if all our players had a 50% wage reduction in their contracts for relegation because there was no fight, spirit or passion yesterday, honestly watching that game you wouldnt have thought it was a do or die game
92 workyticket // May 25, 2009 at 11:54 AM
Ed, It’s very easy to distort what someone is saying to fit your own agenda using selective quotes out of context.
93 Partizan // May 25, 2009 at 11:56 AM
Bring a foreign manager to this club,someone like Zola from West Ham and you will never ever see the likes of Butt,Smith,Barton,Nolan or someone similar playing for this club again.
Shearer while as a player had that English old fashioned style of play,he still kept that style even as a manager.
94 geordie deb // May 25, 2009 at 12:00 PM
Morning Worky
You’ve been quiet the past few days. How is the new blog coming along?
95 mylestoon // May 25, 2009 at 12:03 PM
Grail, tottally agree! if i was getting paid as much as the players are, i would be giving it 110%! but yesterday it looked like they had already given up after 10 mins of the match! all credit to steven taylor, who played his ass off! Ashley is still a wealthy man, cut the wag bill and sell players who dont want to be there and we dont need and ashley can still keep a steady cash flow.
Shearer has tried hard, and he got us a good result at middlesborough, just a glimpse of what he can do. Cant judge him with the plyers he had to work with and a team that couldn’t give a f**k less where we end up.
I’m lookng forward to seeing nile ranger, lua lua, vucik, toser, kadar and the likes play some games in the black and white shirt. They will ACTUALLY PLAY FOR THE CLUB!!!!!!
It would aso be nice to see beckford, delph, fox, shorey, Jordi Gomez, on the newcastle team.
Good luck to the next team that take on owen……keep him protected in a metal cage, he breaks easily!
96 jimiley // May 25, 2009 at 12:03 PM
Partizan
I totally agree but it will not happen. Most Geordies want Shearer as the manager. He will play the likes of Butt and a big target man centre forward. It’s called living in the past.
97 reillers // May 25, 2009 at 12:13 PM
We can whine about all the obstacles that Ashley has put in our way and what a bad job he’s done, and how unstable our management has been, but at the end of the day the players were still the ones who had to go out there and play. Ashley was a terrible owner but he didn’t make Owen miss sitter after sitter, he didn’t make Martins get injured and miss..sitter after sitter. He didn’t make our defence as shocking as they are…”a shambolic, cobbled-together back four.”
He didn’t make our players play so badly against Liverpool, which was the straw that broke the..when it came to Given leaving, I mean it had people saying things like..
“Given has soldiered through 458 matches for United, plus one as substitute, over 11 long years – but this must stand alone as the darkest moment ever inflicted upon him by the sheer incompetence of those who share a dressing-room.”
Ashley didn’t make us play so badly on the pitch, he didn’t make Harper hesistate last week which led to the goal, he didn’t make Butt and Harper run into eachother because of lack of communication, which led to the corner, which led to the goal.
He didn’t make them stand back yesterday in the second half and do nothing
..etc
I hate the man, I do, but something has to be said for the players complete lack of heart, effort, bravery and ability and their complete lack of endeavor.
Ashley was an obstacle, a problem, but he didn’t make the players as bad as they’ve been.
He deserves to go, he’s made mistake after mistake with this club, but the players need to take responisbility for this or else we’ll never move on.
98 euanpolo // May 25, 2009 at 12:15 PM
Oh, I totally forgot about Kazenga, he’ll fit into my possible team somewhere. I hope those players I’ve put up are good on Football Manager 2010!
99 ben-nufc // May 25, 2009 at 12:21 PM
Steve Harper
Tim Krul
Ryan Taylor
Steven Taylor
Michael Mancienne (Chelsea)
Joe Mattock (Leicester)
Fabian Delph (Leeds Utd)
Danny Guthrie
Nicky Butt
Chris Brunt (Wba)
Jermain Beckford (Leeds)/ Ross Macormack (Cardiff)
Andy Carroll
SUBS – Tim Krul, David Edgar, Tamas Kadar, Brad Inman, Haris Vuckic, Ryan Donaldson, Nile Ranger Billy Jones (Pne) Kazenga Lua Lua .
100 workyticket // May 25, 2009 at 12:22 PM
geordie deb // May 25, 2009 at 12:00 PM
“Morning Worky
You’ve been quiet the past few days. How is the new blog coming along?”
Hi Deb, How are you? I’ve been in a right bloody mood since yesterday for obvious reasons!!!!
Anyway, I made a ‘blog AND a forum, however I’ve had problems integrating them both with one login etc, so we may change the forum. It would have been ready if it wasn’t for that, but it WILL be ready soon!
A forum will be first, to get views on what users would like to see in a new Newcastle United site. Hope to see you there when it’s open!
101 geordie deb // May 25, 2009 at 12:44 PM
“Morning Worky
You’ve been quiet the past few days. How is the new blog coming along?”
Hi Deb, How are you? I’ve been in a right bloody mood since yesterday for obvious reasons!!!!
Anyway, I made a ‘blog AND a forum, however I’ve had problems integrating them both with one login etc, so we may change the forum. It would have been ready if it wasn’t for that, but it WILL be ready soon!
A forum will be first, to get views on what users would like to see in a new Newcastle United site. Hope to see you there when it’s open!
Hi Worky
I understand the bad mood bit. I’ve been surprisingly calm after the initial anger at the players for thir complete lack of endeavour, fight, spirit, application, call it what you will that saw us slip into the championship without a fight, but now in an odd way I’m looking forward to to the future – a carthetic experience possibly.
Regarding the blog/forum -sounds a huge amount of work which I’m sure will be appreciated by a lot of people as it will provide a good forum to continue the banter
I sent the email last week when Stardust posted so I’m just waiting for the details and I will definetely be there!
102 azim // May 25, 2009 at 12:52 PM
stop backing alan shearer.personally i dont rate shearer as manager. he had 2 relatively “point taking”home games against portsmouth, fulham but he failed. Under kinnear we were at least better at home and IMO we would be relegated if kinnear was a manager. In first place we should had appointed venables as manager once kinnear got heart attack. anyway for future i hope MA does not renew AS contract. My choice to manage this team is JEAN TIGANA. 54 years old, still 10 years left in his carrer and importantly he already experienced managing a first divison team.
103 Charlie Toon // May 25, 2009 at 12:55 PM
Although I’m disappointed, I’m quite optimistic and excited about next season. This is a chance to address all our problems, rebuild the squad and bring a winning mentality to everyone at the club. I definiately think Alan is the right man for the job, but whoever we get they must be given atleast 4 years to prove themselves. This will be a very important summer, we can’t afford to make huge mistakes again!! ps Guna really really miss Oba Martins (but good luck to him wherever he goes)!!
104 geordie deb // May 25, 2009 at 1:07 PM
Azim
Your opinion but I disagree. I don’t believe you can assess Alan Shearer’s management capabilites on 8 games for heavens sake. He took over a pathetic patchwork disparate squad low on ability, fight, fitness etc and dealt with more injuries, suspensions etc for key games. He made some fundamental changes in the background to try to improve the players professionalism but you can’t honestly expect anyone to do much with that shower.
The time to judge AS is when he has had time to buy and sell his own players and develop a style and tactics that suit them. I personally do not want to see any change of manager for several years (if he is appointed) as the compleet lack of stability we have had as a club has been at the route of our downfall.
105 workyticket // May 25, 2009 at 1:20 PM
geordie deb // May 25, 2009 at 12:44 PM
“Hi Worky
I understand the bad mood bit. I’ve been surprisingly calm after the initial anger at the players for thir complete lack of endeavour, fight, spirit, application, call it what you will that saw us slip into the championship without a fight, but now in an odd way I’m looking forward to to the future – a carthetic experience possibly.”
Hmmm, I don’t know Deb. I see your point but personally, I don’t agree with this player witch hunt. This club is a mess on so many levels, we’ve had FIVE managerial changes in one year, and in a league as competitive as the Premier League this can be enough to bring even a decent squad of players to their knees. Teams need consistent leadership or they will be confused and lacking in focus.
106 azim // May 25, 2009 at 1:20 PM
geordie deb i agree with u but keep in mind KK had a nearly same team last season but managed to keep us stayed in the league. under kinnear players have shown same passion to play and not under shearer. Shearer kept on picking his old pal and did not try any new. Jean Tigana would be best choice to manage this club. For the past 20 years we have managed by english , why not try european manager and 3 out of top 4 clubs are managed by european.
107 geordie deb // May 25, 2009 at 1:20 PM
*root of our downfall -
108 geordie deb // May 25, 2009 at 1:22 PM
Azim
Gullit was european not english, but i hear what you are saying
109 geordie deb // May 25, 2009 at 1:26 PM
Worky
The club is in a mess and we certainly need stability, but taking everything into account and the effect it must have had on the players, I really can’t defend the lack of effort or heart shown by some of them. They started well yesterday and too many just capitulated despite what was at stake, and that I find hard to accept.
110 Paul141726 // May 25, 2009 at 1:45 PM
Early on in this post, Ericles claimed Owen was a mercenary, which really gives mercenaries a bad name. CONMAN is more like it. Owen is a horse trainer who sometimes visits a football pitch for a relaxing day off from work!!!
111 Paul141726 // May 25, 2009 at 1:54 PM
Partizan-I think your list of those players that will be moved on is about right, but I think the money from transfer fees of these players is quite high, especially in this economic climate. Just my opinion, but cut these figures by half and it might be correct.
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