The Bleacher report had a very good piece out yesterday which is doing the rounds of Newcastle fans and the web-site has identified 11 players, mostly young and British, who would be good buys for Newcastle. They estimate the cost of those 11 players at £31M for Newcastle.
Alan Shearer – plenty of young talent to choose from
So that means we could get 5 or 6 of these lads for Seb Bassong – put that way it looks a good deal for Newcastle.
Here we profile 5 of them with some additional background information – and we will continue these reports with 5 each time over the next week or so with others not ifdentified in the bleacher report – so we at least know who is available – you’ll be surprised how good some of these lads seem to be.
Daniel Fox - Coventry City – 22
Daniel is a left back who we were said to be interested in last January, and is said to be keen top join the Magpies. He was at Walsall before joining Coventry last year and played for Richard Money there.
Daniel Fox was said to be close to moving to St James Park on the last day of January in what was said to be a £1.6M deal, Janyary – but that seemed very much on the cheap side, since this player is highly rated.
After the window closed Coventry officials said they had recived an offer from Newcatsle but the fee was ludicrously low. This lad has a growing reputation and if signed we could could allow Enrique to leave the club, with Tamas Kadar a more than able left back too.
The England U-21 international – he started the game earlier this year against Poland on March 25th for his only cap – has been more than impressive for Coventry this season, making 42 appearances and scoring for them 4 times.
Daniel played 99 times at Walsall with 6 goals, from 2005 until earlier this year, and he seems the type of player Newcastle are trying to sign under owner Mike Ashley – top youngsters who are still improving, and will be further developed at the Newcastle club.
The 6′ 1″ Fox began his career at the Everton Youth Academy in 2004, and was on on loan at Stranrear in Scotland, playing 11 games and scoring for them once in 2004, while still only 18. He then moved to Walsall in 2005, where he played under Richard Money, who was then Walsall manager, and is now Newcastle’s Youth Academy Director, so Richard could be the link in this transfer.
Earlier this year, before Fox moved to Coventry City, Richard described him as the complete player. Daniel Fox was born in May, 1986 in Winsford, Cheshire, and is said to be very keen to join the Magpies.
Kyle Naughton – Sheffield United – 20
The 20 year old right full back has played for Sheffield United about 20 times, so he lacks the experience to make the move up to the Premier League, bt may a top target for Newcastle in the summer.
Naughton is a product of the Sheffield United Centre of Excellence and Academy, and joined his home town club at age 7 years old and captained the academy side to the quarter-finals of the FA Youth Cup in the 2006–07 season.
Naughton is not yetn a proven player but has put in some top class performances and he does look like a very good emerging youngster. Kyle was born in Sheffield, and he is a quick, attacking wing-back who can apparently also operate on either flank.
During the 2007/08 season he went away on loan and was impressive during his 18 games at Gretna, despite their relegation from the Scottish Premier League that season. Newcastle were said to be eying a bid of £1.5M for the player in January, but they may have to go higher than that to get Kyle.
Naughton made his first start for Sheffield United in their 2-1 victory over Watford last September and from that point on he made the right back position his own. And then after just eleven league appearances, Naughton was called up for the England Under-21 side, and in the 2-0 victory over the Czech Republic at Bramall Lane, he came on in the 60 minute.
He has played 40 times for Sheffield United with one goal, and has two England Under-21 caps.
Fabien Delph – Leeds -19
The latest young whiz kid we were after last January was the Leeds United midfield youngster Fabian Delph but Premier League clubs like Fulham, Sunderland and Arsenal are also interested.
The lad turned 19 years last November, and he has already been capped at the England Under-21 level and has been at Leeds United since he was 11 years old, having previously been at his home town club, Bradford.
The news is that Newcastle have reportedly had a recent bid in January rejected for the 5’9″ midfileder, but Sunderland and Arsenal are also very keen to sign him.
Leeds value Delph at an amazing £5M but Leeds United seem confident the teenager will be staying at Elland Road.
He has played 44 times for Leeds with 6 goals.
Sean Scannell – Crystal Palace – 18
Crystal Palace chairman Simon Jordan has reportedly slapped a £3M price tag on Croydon-born Scannell, who has represented Ireland at Under-18 level.
Sean has played 49 times for Palace and scored 4 goals, but Arsenal may be interested.
Sean Scannell (born 17 September 1990, in Croydon, London) currently plays for Crystal Palace, and is primarily a striker but can also play on the right wing if necessary.
Scannell made his debut for Crystal Palace on 4th December 2007, coming on as a substitute for Franck Songo’o. In his home debut against Sheffield Wednesday on 15 December, he again came on to replace Songo’o in the second half and scored a 90th minute winner, his first senior goal in a 2-1 victory for Crystal Palace. Following this,
Scannell was offered a two and a half year professional contract with Palace, and in order to beat off interest from, among others, Manchester United, Manchester City, Everton and Blackburn Rovers,, and he signed the contract at the beginning of the year, and celebrated by scoring Palace’s second goal in a 3-0 victory at Molineux against Wolverhampton Wanderers the following weekend.
He is described as an exciting player with searing pace (that’s what we need for the Championship) and is one of many talents to emerge from Palace’s academy in the last few years. He has also won the Crystal Palace Young Player of the Year Award 2008.
Mark Beevers – Sheffield Wednesday – 18
We have already reported on Newcastle’s interest in Sheffield Wednesday’s 18-year-old center half Mark Beevers going bck to last December.
18 year-old Mark is a 6′ 4″ defender who was born in Barnsley, England, and was recently placed on standby for the England under-19s game against Croatia on 5 February 2008. He has just one cap for the England U19 side.
Mark made his senior debut at Southampton in January 2007 at age 17, giving an accomplished display at the heart of the defense. He had joined the club at age 12. He is strong in the air and good in the tackle and has continued to progress during his first full-time campaign at Hillsborough.
Mark has played 57 times so far for the Owls and has scored one goal.
Here’s a link to the Bleacher report we talked about – and they also suggest the fees, but we think the fees may be difficult to predict for some of these players.
Comments always welcome.
150 responses so far ↓
1 Doocey // May 28, 2009 at 7:51 PM
Agreed, Would like all 5 in
2 Toon_Factor // May 28, 2009 at 8:00 PM
Only seen Beevers play out of them all at to be honest Edgars just all good.
3 Shot Bru // May 28, 2009 at 8:02 PM
Thanks bleacher, their values have probably just doubled, in our case quadrupled.
4 nimo // May 28, 2009 at 8:03 PM
report sound alot of rubbish to be honest, what would make jordi gomez and wheater want to come to us when there both capable of being in premiership plus its abit late to find a replacement for emre lol. however would love to see 4 of the 5 with the exeption of delph who in my opinion is very overated. would rather have surnam of southampton
5 Toon_Factor // May 28, 2009 at 8:03 PM
* as good
6 cosmicMini95 // May 28, 2009 at 8:06 PM
Ed,
You say we need players with pace for the Championship but in a previous article you want hard nosed bruisers for the physical nature of the league. The two don’t tend to go together….
7 Toon_Factor // May 28, 2009 at 8:09 PM
cosmicMini95
Jonas?
8 nimo // May 28, 2009 at 8:11 PM
how many loan signings cna you have in 1 season and how many from 1 team
9 beyethegreat // May 28, 2009 at 8:12 PM
nimo
i think 1
10 fergie // May 28, 2009 at 8:14 PM
Andrew Driver is the player we should be getting. A young version of Milner, from Hearts. Except cheaper. We should also get Kevin Doyle, Bruno Aguiar and Sibierski, just for the craic
11 valle // May 28, 2009 at 8:16 PM
I have heard allot of good about most of those guys. And creating a good young side full of hungry English players coul be just what we need to start over… One player the report didnt mention that i would also like to see in an NUFC shirt is Mattock tho, Oh, and Scotland from Swansea too.
12 valle // May 28, 2009 at 8:18 PM
fergie… A young version of Milner eh?… So he cant cross and he tend to dribble around untill he loses possession? ;o)
13 Stuart79 // May 28, 2009 at 8:18 PM
Anyone got any idea where the money is coming from for these guys?
14 JJJ // May 28, 2009 at 8:19 PM
“boater // May 28, 2009 at 5:47 PM
Shearer coming in, us getting relegated and Shearer staying to the applause of half-wit local drum beaters, was my worst case scenario..
welcome to nufc….
Roeder and KK both came in during emergency situations.. KK got us passing, scoring and staved off relegation with 4 games to go… Roder got us into UEFA spots… Shearer saw us win 1 in 8, score in only 2 games and fail to lift a side of international class players …
why are you so desperate to see him appointed?
Please give me one good reason.”
I’ll respond to your question… but first…
Let me point out that the first thing our club needs is stability and it is in fact not the “drum beaters” but rather know it alls like yourself that are the fans this club can do without!
Asking for the appointment of “experienced” managers who have all been failures in the Premier league:
- Coppell, complete failure with Sunderland…
- Roeder, complete failure when Shearer left the staff… although I believe he is a great COACH!
- Ferguson, he is hardly experienced and had on decent season.
You are in favour of experience but where did the likes of experienced managers like Souness, and Allardyce and Kinnear get us?
They got us stuck with past it, slow, leg hacking players like Smith, Butt, Nolan, Geremi, and the most useless of all Michael Owen…
An immobile technically inept long ball team that in the end got us relegated because we had no pace and creativity.
Newcastles only successful managers in the last 15 years have been Keegan and Robson, both has links with the club, an understanding of the people, and stature with an impatient support!
If Coppell or Roeder got us up next season (both failed with their respective teams last season depsite Coppell having the best squad in the league…
Roeder has had two spells in the premier league and he just didnt cut it!
Would you want a new manager with premier league experience to take over their good work?
That is your logic…
Lets stick by Shearer, for once have some stability, and as you would do with any other manager judge them when they have their own squad of players, their own preseason to practice systems and tactics and players that arnt exhausted and under immense pressure of relegation because our squad is so small. Working with a coaching staff that isnt of your choosing…
Please, how on earth can you judge Shearer now?
STABILITY is the key! And with Shearer we may still have that.
Any fan trying to push him out in order to get our 5th manager of the year in the form of a Steve Coppell or Roeder honestly needs their head read…
You condemn other people for their statements, and belittle them…
“wellcome to Newcastle” – well mate if your dont like it go support Reading! The have the great Coppell as their manager… cant go wrong.
15 nimo // May 28, 2009 at 8:19 PM
we could get so many yongsters on loan from the top 4, manure could try for frazer campbell who excelled with hull in this league, and the gibson. chelsea mancienne and scott sinclair n then arsenal have denilson who may be tempted for 1st team football, gibbs, wilshere, ramsey and im sure liverpool will have some good youngsters up for loan and then splash the cash on quality and not just people to make up the numbers
16 beyethegreat // May 28, 2009 at 8:19 PM
stuart
i thought i was the only 1 thinking that
17 nimo // May 28, 2009 at 8:23 PM
jjj i agree with sticking with shearer he has two things i find important in a manager before tactics and the rest of it. RESPECT and PASSION and i made the point yesterday did roy keane have any experience when he took sunderland from near relegation in championship to a solid premiership team
18 nimo // May 28, 2009 at 8:24 PM
were gonna get a bob or two for martins and bassong possibly fair bit for enrique if he goes
19 nimo // May 28, 2009 at 8:25 PM
and there still money left from january remember them saying lol
20 Stuart79 // May 28, 2009 at 8:26 PM
Beye
All this bull sh1t about who we should buy is just that!
W are on the verge of financial meltdown, we have no money, a drop in revenue and an owber who will not be in position to invest what is needed!
I’m ridiculously worried for the future of our club.
We need to get rid of at the very least 10 players and we have no money to replace them.
Leeds anyone………..
21 Stuart79 // May 28, 2009 at 8:27 PM
nimo // May 28, 2009 at 8:25 PM
and there still money left from january remember them saying lol
That won’t even touch the sides of the 50-60m we will be losing in tv money
22 Warwick Hunt // May 28, 2009 at 8:28 PM
On relegation, on these dark days, on being a Toon supporter:-
Invictus
Out of the night that covers me,
Black as the pit from pole to pole,
I thank whatever gods may be
For my unconquerable soul.
In the fell clutch of circumstance
I have not winced nor cried aloud.
Under the bludgeonings of chance
My head is bloody, but unbow’d.
Beyond this place of wrath and tears
Looms but the Horror of the shade,
And yet the menace of the years
Finds and shall find me unafraid.
It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my fate:
I am the captain of my soul.
23 fergie // May 28, 2009 at 8:28 PM
How about a sneaky bid for Carlos Vela on loan. He would rip up the Championship and won’t play in front of Arshavin, Adebayor, Eduardo, Van Persie and Bendtner…
24 Shot Bru // May 28, 2009 at 8:28 PM
There is no way the likes of Man u and chelsea are gonna lend us any of their most promising players for them to end up scarred for life.
25 nimo // May 28, 2009 at 8:30 PM
leeds owed 240 million when they went down. thanks to the useless owner we dont have that so no. not leeds i dont htink and with owen out the door, viduka and barton, geremi, cacapa, martins and smith all on 50k a week plus on there way i think were in a good position. change is good and we’d have been stuck with the same deadwood if we stayed up
26 valle // May 28, 2009 at 8:31 PM
JJJ… Totally agree with you… But… Coppell resigned after they failed in the play-offs.
27 Stuart79 // May 28, 2009 at 8:33 PM
nimo // May 28, 2009 at 8:30 PM
Leeds had a debt of 90m!
Will all them players you mentioned move to other clubs if they will only get half the wages? Leeds had to subsidise the wages for the players when they sold them and we’ll have to do the same.
We still owe about 38m on transfer fees so I don’t know where your getting the idea that we will be ok from
28 nimo // May 28, 2009 at 8:33 PM
40 – 60 million mate for tv sorry but its about 20 – 25 million still big loss but players wages will make that
29 nimo // May 28, 2009 at 8:35 PM
Aston Villa will reap £42.3million after finishing in sixth place, compared with the £22.4million they collected in the 2006-07 season.
Everton, too, have earned a huge improvement, with their fifth place, banking a cheque of £42.1million, compared with £25.3million last year.
Newcastle United followed Manchester United, Arsenal and Liverpool into fourth place as the team most shown on live television. The result was that Newcastle earned almost £10million from 20 live screenings.
Chelsea on the other hand had 18 live matches, bringing them £9.1million.
Read more: http://soccerlens.com/
30 Mac // May 28, 2009 at 8:35 PM
JJJ without doubt one of the best posts on here ever. Well done my Friend.
31 Widowmaker // May 28, 2009 at 8:36 PM
Looking for top youngsters?
Check out the latest Japanese product Yamada Naoki. He is 18 years old and has just recently been called up by national team. I was saying this kid will make it the first time I watch his play on TV and he is now in the national team… I am quite lucky.
A very intelligent little player who knows how to play football.
32 hitman // May 28, 2009 at 8:36 PM
reet lads fk it,seems alot of people on here are against shearer,lets get wise in he has expirence and hes reet up ashley ahole,might get some money oot of him.
33 toonindia // May 28, 2009 at 8:37 PM
Have to agree with JJJ, we need people who know the club inside out and whos got some passion to lead us on. Shearer had got loads of all of them.
I have been supporting Newcastle United from over here in India for almost a decade now. I havn’t seen a more disgraced squad with no real passion or energy. We do need a complete overhaul from top to bottom, building up from the basement. The type of players mentioned above would just be perfect for out. We need young players who are passionate about their game and have hunger to succeed and not players who are looking for a last pay day.
HOWAY THE LADS!!!
34 nufc-grimble // May 28, 2009 at 8:38 PM
I know you might think this is abit low. BUT top goal scorer of league 1 is Ricky lambert. He said he would love to play in the championship. just think, wat amazing club he would b join and startin his championship carear in. i think personally we should get him 1.5m at the most
35 Stuart79 // May 28, 2009 at 8:38 PM
nimo // May 28, 2009 at 8:33 PM
40 – 60 million mate for tv sorry but its about 20 – 25 million still big loss but players wages will make that
So Burnley must be special as they won the ’60m’ match in the play offs.
Also you mention Villa and Everton gettingmoney for finishing in 5th and 6th. That’s Premier League prize money!
So that’s more money we are losing as I only took into account tv money
36 JJJ // May 28, 2009 at 8:39 PM
Sorry Boater, you asked for one reason…
But I thought i’d give you eight…
There are far more positives to keeping Shearer if the gossop is true:
1 He brings in Carver… who is one of the best coaches we’ve ever had. (second only to Steve Clark for me).
2 He holds massive respect with local talent (we wont have a team of Argies in the championship that just want to get back to Spain)… It will be majority British talent we buy.
3 He has a good relationship with the fans which takes means more patience and less pressire on the players. WE NEED STABILITY MORE THAN ANYTHING.
4 He communicates with the fans and owners, and isnt a yes man… he also wont walk away from the club because unlike Keegan he does LOVE Newcastle.
5 He has spoken about the team lacking PACE and power. Extremely evident to the fans yet non of the previous three managers looked to resolve this in 6 tranfer windows.
6 He isnt afraid of playing youth and without the pressures of relegation in the last 6 games of the season Im sure we’ll see the likes of Ranger, Vuckic, Lua Lua (who Shearer recalled) getting some first team experience.
7 He will attract players about our Championship status because of his NAME.
8 He wont be bullied and will be fully in charge, wont let players sit idol for months in the injury room over minor niggles (alla Viduka).
So lets give him a chance…
He has all the attributes, so lets hope his eight games in the premiership have helped him grow in experience…
You cannot judge him on eight games, playing with a tired, immobile, hearltless, emotionally down, pressurized squad put together by a bunch of monkeys….
Judge him on his first season!!!!
37 Shot Bru // May 28, 2009 at 8:40 PM
Fergie, Andrew Driver is a good shout, direct fast and for me a much better winger than the vastly overrated McGeady. I would even go for the Hearts manager Csaba Lazslo, he’s used to working on a tight budget for an equally erratic owner as Ashley and producing quick results. Shearer ain’t the answer.
38 nimo // May 28, 2009 at 8:41 PM
yeah but that was just something i copied off a page theres also another 22.5 mill ontop of that that gets spread equally between the teams, all i am saying is where not as bad as people are making out
39 Stuart79 // May 28, 2009 at 8:42 PM
Listen everyone, nobody could do the job next season if as I expect we have no money to spend and we have to sell all our players!
We will need Harry Potter
40 nimo // May 28, 2009 at 8:42 PM
and as that 240million i got it off my mate in the pub the other day who happens to be a massive leeds fan
41 Stuart79 // May 28, 2009 at 8:45 PM
Nimo I love the enthusiasm but how come so many clubs are now in Div 1 and in financial dire straits who use to be in the PL and none of them had even half the wage bill we have!
That’s why were in trouble. 74 million pound wages man!!!
42 hitman // May 28, 2009 at 8:47 PM
stuart,thats why shearer hasnt signed,coz ashley wants to do things on the cheap,and shearer knows its going to take money to get us fighting in the championship,sooner ashley sells up and does one the better this club will be.
43 nimo // May 28, 2009 at 8:56 PM
Newcastle Players
Name Annual Salary
Joey Barton £3 million – gone
Nicky Butt £4 million – disgrace, how much. – should take cut to stay
Fabricio Coloccini £2.5 million – gone
Steve Harper £1.25 million – should take cut
Obafemi Martins £3 million – gone
Michael Owen £5.4 million -gone
Alan Smith £2.5 million – gne
Steven Taylor £1.75 million – would take cut
Mark Viduka £3.75 million -gone
and my leeds fan mate said that they had 130mil of external debt but alot more tied up in stadium and facilities etc. we dont
44 DJM TOON // May 28, 2009 at 8:56 PM
just idle speculation is what football blogs are all about,
warwick hunt, sorry fella, invictus is an amzing poem, (i have other work by william henley) but it does not connect so much with being a toon fan, for one, being a toon fan, you are not the captain of your fate. invictus actually translates as taking control of your destiny
the last time it surfaced was sevral years ago, i believe a serial killer wrote it as his ast will and testament. cant remeber the guys name mind.
but yeah sorry for being anal
45 Stuart79 // May 28, 2009 at 8:56 PM
Hitman, agreed.
This is the 3rd pre season under Ashley and I expect it to be every bit as pathetic as the last
46 nimo // May 28, 2009 at 8:58 PM
im still digusted that nicky butt earns that much freddie shepherd as the worst thing that happened to this club i dont care what anyone says lol lets just pack out the stadium week in week out and do our bit aswel
47 DJM TOON // May 28, 2009 at 8:58 PM
i think the appointment of shearer will answer a lot of questions. as has being said several times already, he wont sign unless its on his terms.
that i hope will end this debate
48 Stuart79 // May 28, 2009 at 8:59 PM
Nimo
Who’s going to buy these players and pay them the same wages?
Nobody and they won’ leave unless they get the same money!
49 nimo // May 28, 2009 at 9:00 PM
i think ashley will give in to AS eventually cos he knows it will be cheaper than selling at the minute. whys sharm el sheik whatever he called buying portsmouth if he wants to buy a struggling club and take them to the top surely were the better choice
50 Stuart79 // May 28, 2009 at 9:02 PM
Nimo
Ashley’s probably still wanting 200m for the club!
Stubborn fcker!
51 Stuart79 // May 28, 2009 at 9:03 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/leeds_united/5332286.stm
Nimo about Leeds’ debt
52 Hobs // May 28, 2009 at 9:04 PM
Guys, remember Per Ciljan Skjelbred that we almost signed last summer?
I said then that we should let him mature until january or this summer. Now is the time to just go an get him! Hes easy the biggest talent in Norway, and one of the very best Norweigan players in the league too.
Aged 21, he’s a hard working, creative and quick midfielder. And the best part: He was completely devastated when his favourite club got relegated!
Get him in NOW, let him adjust to the english game next season, and then he’s gonna be a big hit in the Prem!
53 nimo // May 28, 2009 at 9:04 PM
well we’ll see but this relegation has been coming a while and while ever we were in the premiership we would have continued buying players who were not good enough and could just about scrape through. its all down to freddie shepherd and it wouldnt suprise me if i woke up in the morning to read an article in the paper with FFS slagging off ashley again. dont get me wrong the man has made mistakes bt at least he admitted them and hopefully will listen to shearer and take us in the right direction. if were promoted.i think we will be a better team no doubt about it
54 JJJ // May 28, 2009 at 9:06 PM
Stuart 79
I agree we will be on a tight budget, but I dont see us doing a Leeds…
Firstly the players Leeds lost had to beb sold even prior to them dropping down thats how bad their finances were and it was because of them selling the likes of Rio Ferdinand, Woodgate, Kewel, Viduka, etc that they actually went down, so they lost an incredible amount of talent and had to subsidise huge long term contracts…
We on the other hand are losing Owen, Viduka and Geremi, all of whom are out of contract so wont and hardly ever played anyway…
So we save 11.5Mil on wages per yer on those (no misses alone).
Then we will sell the likes of:
Colo – 5Mil (50k wages/week) – no good
Jonas – 5Mil (40k wages/week) – no good
Smith – 2Mil (this is one player we may subsidise but would still save about 30k in wages) – useless
Martins – 10Mil (80k wages/week) – miss him
Xisco – 2Mil (20k wages/week) – never played
Nacho – (20k wages/week) – never played
Enrique – 5Mil (40k wages/week)
Lovenkrans (20k wages/week) hardly played
Casapa (40k in wages)
Thats about an extra 30Mil recouped in transfers and about 17Mil a year in wages…
We then get a 30Mil parachute payment after relegation… plus about 5Mil for our placing in the league and we’ll get about 5Mil for television rights next season.
So thats about 110Mil we’d get back…
Plus…
We supposedly have 8Mil still owing for Milner (4mil a year) and (Given money was spent on Xisco) but there is 5Mil left from N’Zogbia deal…
Our gate receipts are far greater than Leeds and even if we lost 15000 spectators next season we’d stil have 38 000 fans coming in bringing in revenue…
Even with those sales our squad is still decent…
GK: Harper, Krul
DL: Kadar, ????
DR: Beye, R Taylor
DC: Bassong (He wont go cheap if he goes), S Taylor, Edgar, Tozer.
LM: Duff, ????
RM: Lua Lua, ????
CM: Guthrie, Nolan, Butt, Vuckic, ????, ????
ST: Carroll, Ranger, Ameobi, ????
???? – positions we’d need to fill.
Add possible targets like, Doyle, Hunt, Delph, Fox, Mattock, etc. And some good loan signings and we have a good squad for the championship without much investment…
We may not 100% go straight back up but we certainly wont do a Leeds…
55 nimo // May 28, 2009 at 9:08 PM
yeh n like i said doesnt mention the debts on the stadium and training facilities that were taken away as was the council that owned the majority.
56 Stuart79 // May 28, 2009 at 9:08 PM
People, this may be premature but I have just had a text telling me that Shearer has turned us down!
The same person told me that Ashley and KK were going to have a meeting before the Hull game, which of course they did.
57 jimiley // May 28, 2009 at 9:09 PM
What I want to know is why would some megarich Arab rather buy Portsmouth rather than us? We are lumbered for ever with fat MA. We are either regarded as a write off by potential buyers or the fat man does not want to sell. In any event we are deep in the mire.
58 hitman // May 28, 2009 at 9:10 PM
look lads shearer has ashley by the short and curllys,and ashley knows it,ashley has to play ball,if he dosnt where fked.
59 Stuart79 // May 28, 2009 at 9:11 PM
JJJ
My point is that we might not be able to get rid of the players.
Even if we agree a fee the clubs won’t pay the wages we paid and the players won’t leave if it means them taking a pay cut
60 nimo // May 28, 2009 at 9:12 PM
thats what i been trying to say jjj, think ure abit better with words than me lol
61 jimiley // May 28, 2009 at 9:13 PM
Stuart 79
if true, he has turned the fat man down, not us. No cash and/or freedom to manage his own way. the fat man likes total control to mess up. Who would work for that …… I would never go within 10 miles of the fat man except on match days.
62 JJJ // May 28, 2009 at 9:14 PM
“Stuart79 // May 28, 2009 at 8:59 PM
Nimo
Who’s going to buy these players and pay them the same wages?
Nobody and they won’ leave unless they get the same money!”
Like i said, Owen, Viduka, Geremi, Lovenkrans, Nacho and Casapa are all out of contract….
Colo will take a wage cut to leave as will Jonas as they just want out…
Martins will be in demand… as will Enrique…
So we will only be saddled with Smith, and hopefully some fool will take him… Alex Ferguson did so i have hope…
Plus they are Argentine internationals… there will be interest as they were successful in Spain.
63 Stuart79 // May 28, 2009 at 9:15 PM
Jimiley
I don’t think Shearer will stay because he won’t have money to spend/
Ashley hasn’t got the money! Simple, I wish he did and he probably wishes he did but he ain’t!
64 nimo // May 28, 2009 at 9:16 PM
everton n wigan have been strongly linked with smith so some1 will take him we may just have to subside 10k not great deal
65 JJJ // May 28, 2009 at 9:16 PM
Oh yes, and Barton, he may be a problem but hey if the worst comes to the worst, he may be a nob, but he would absolutely dominate the championship midfielders…
66 hitman // May 28, 2009 at 9:16 PM
jimiley,last neet you didnt want shearer so why are you having a go
67 beyethegreat // May 28, 2009 at 9:17 PM
jimley
they looked at us aswell as a few others i think tottenham was 1 of them but apparently he wants to buy a small club and turn them in to a huge club
68 Stuart79 // May 28, 2009 at 9:17 PM
10k a week is a hell of alot when ya skint!
69 nimo // May 28, 2009 at 9:19 PM
not compared to 40 50 whatever he on plus 3mil for selling
70 Stuart79 // May 28, 2009 at 9:20 PM
Everyone’s dreaming!
71 beyethegreat // May 28, 2009 at 9:21 PM
10k a week
id take it
72 Natureboy95 // May 28, 2009 at 9:22 PM
@jjj,
i may be missing something here and you may know something that i don’t, but how do you know Shearer isn’t afriad of playing youth? which is number 6 on you ‘reasons to keep shearer’ article. i haven’t seen any evidence of that yet.agree with everything else you said tho.
73 Stuart79 // May 28, 2009 at 9:23 PM
I just don’t think it’s going to be as easy as everyone is saing to get rid of these players.
Don’t forget, these are p1ss poor players on huge wages, not Kewell, Fowler, Ferdinand and the other Leeds players
74 hitman // May 28, 2009 at 9:23 PM
if shearer dosnt sign where fked lads,coz no manager worth his salt would work with ashley,no matter how big NUFC is.
75 Girth // May 28, 2009 at 9:26 PM
does anyone else think that this story only goes to inflate our own opinions of ourselves? who the f**k are we to just go around and pick up the best players out of other peoples squads…Barca f***ng lona?????
76 Stuart79 // May 28, 2009 at 9:26 PM
Kinnear would…….
We know there’s money if Shearers has said no! In that case were fcked!
77 JJJ // May 28, 2009 at 9:27 PM
“Natureboy95 // May 28, 2009 at 9:22 PM
@jjj,
i may be missing something here and you may know something that i don’t, but how do you know Shearer isn’t afriad of playing youth? which is number 6 on you ‘reasons to keep shearer’ article. i haven’t seen any evidence of that yet.agree with everything else you said tho.”
Well, he brought back Lua Lua to the squad who was on loan, incase he needed him…
He played Carroll ahead of Ameobi (unlike Kinnear) and he had Ranger on the bench.
Also Shearer stated that the youth will get the chance… I believe his words were “if you’re good enough your young enough” – and Ive yet to see Shearer say something he never meant.
78 Girth // May 28, 2009 at 9:29 PM
doesn anyone else see this story as just another attempt to inflate our own opions of ourselves, and thereafter, to make us look like muppets when we dont get them?!?!?
after all, who are we to go around and pick the best players out of other peoples squads…Barca fu*king lona?
79 Warwick Hunt // May 28, 2009 at 9:34 PM
@DJM TOON.
I know what the poem is about but find it very inspirational TBH, you are right about being about taking control of your own fate but when it’s in your darkest hours (NUFC relegation). He actually wrote the poem from a Hospital bed (where he almost died) when at a very young age he lost his leg when he got TB of the bone and for me it’s about being strong in the face of adversity, facing the hurdles in front of you with fortitude and humility. For me it’s up ther for inspiration with ‘IF’ and Sheakepeares ‘Saint Crispin day speech’.
If you work with Mackums, as I do ‘Noli Illigitimi Carborundum’.
80 JJJ // May 28, 2009 at 9:34 PM
Girth
I dont know who we will be signing but I do take solice in the fact that no matter who they are they cant perform worse than the lot that were playing for us towards the end of this season…
Its just not possible. And we wont be paying them 60-100k per week to do it!
Stuart
Our saving grace is that they are all at the end of their contracts, perhaps the reason they put no effort in…
Colo and Jonas are decent players but just not suited to this league…
And Martins and Enrique will be in demand… both young, experienced and talented.
81 beyethegreat // May 28, 2009 at 9:35 PM
girth i see what youre saying and agree but i imagine IF we have the money we should be able to get most of them
82 DevonMag // May 28, 2009 at 9:38 PM
Id love it if Barton stayed. If he hadnt got suspended we wouldn’t have been relegated. I’d go as far as saying that that’s a fact. The reason we beat villa at home was because Barton was playing. Simple as. He would be, without doubt, the best midfielder (player?) in the championship.
If he pledges himself and takes a wage cut, keep him on I say
83 hitman // May 28, 2009 at 9:40 PM
we have no money,what makes yous think coz big al is here that will change,we have an owner who could peel an orange in his pocket….
84 Girth // May 28, 2009 at 9:47 PM
devonmag
dunno if im as passionate as you about the man, but i wholeheartedly agree about Barton, could be the engine room to our midfield and would be easily one of the best players in the division.
Prob the only high earner i dont want to go..
85 JJJ // May 28, 2009 at 9:49 PM
Well say we signed nobody and got Owen, Martins, Viduka, Smith, Geremi, Colo, Jonas, Casapa, Xisco, Nacho, and Enrique off the wage bill…
This would be our starting line up:
______________HARPER_____________
BEYE___TAYLOR_____EDGAR____KADAR
____GUTHRIE___NOLAN___BARTON____
LUA-LUA______________________DUFF
______________CARROLL____________
Bench: Krul, R Taylor, Butt, Inman, Ranger, Vuckic, Ameobi.
Thats without spending a cent…
86 Girth // May 28, 2009 at 9:52 PM
jjj
still think that midfield 3 would give most teams a good game in the championship like, if they are playing on song of course, and not like losers like last season…
87 Little Willie // May 28, 2009 at 9:54 PM
Nimo I love the enthusiasm but how come so many clubs are now in Div 1 and in financial dire straits who use to be in the PL and none of them had even half the wage bill we have!
That’s why were in trouble. 74 million pound wages man!!!
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None of them had a turnover anywhere near what we had to be fair, in fact our turnover in the Championship will still dwarf what they were making in the Premiership.
As for comparing us to Leeds, they owed money to finance companies which they borrowed to buy players and they couldn’t afford to keep up with the repayments, we on the other hand owe the money to Ashley and he’s hardly demanding we pay it back asap.
As for players on big money refusing to go, the two biggest earners are out of contract, others will value their career more than being stuck in the Championship but if a few stay then so be it, that’s life but having 4 or 5 players on £50k plus won’t cripple us.
The only way this club will be in serious financial trouble is if Ashley pulls the plug, but that’s been the case since he got here.
88 JJJ // May 28, 2009 at 9:55 PM
Sorry, and thats assuming we let Bassong go too…
So if we invested even minimal, we could get a striker like Kevin Doyle (proven scorer), a defender like David Wheater, a left back like Daniel Fox and a loan signing like Gibson, Wilshere, Michael Johnson, etc…
89 Stuart79 // May 28, 2009 at 9:56 PM
That midfield three will still be about as quick as my granny running up hill!
They’ll stay slow unless they play with power packs!
90 TERRYHIBBETONTHEWING // May 28, 2009 at 9:56 PM
JJJ
Your spot on with your posts,Shearer and the club need time and stability.
Pep Guardiola was second team coach last season at Barca. He took on”The Master “last night and embarrassed him.Inexperience versus experience.The difference, Barca had better players on the night.Shearer needs time to introduce his own players.Then we can make judgements!!.
91 hitman // May 28, 2009 at 9:57 PM
if shearer was going to sign he would have by now,theres soming went wrong.
92 JJJ // May 28, 2009 at 9:59 PM
Girth,
I agree, that midfield would dominate the championship and imagine if Bassong stayed how good our backline would be…
93 Stuart79 // May 28, 2009 at 10:00 PM
Ya all in dreamland!
The reason why these players came here was for money, they will be happy just taking the money.
Our turnover will probably drop by at least 25%, not to mention the money we still owe clubs for previous transfers and the wages that we will still have to pay.
It’s all relevant, we have high earners with a bog turnover. Next season we will have high earners on a lower turnover.
Were up the creek with a boat lt alone a paddle
94 Little Willie // May 28, 2009 at 10:01 PM
Why would he of signed by now?
He said himself there are a million things to discuss, then they go away and crunch the numbers to see where that will put us etc.
The club will release a statement either way when something has happened, nothing has yet so take it they are still in discussions.
95 samd // May 28, 2009 at 10:04 PM
if shearer dont want the job then why not ketsbaia he done well in his last job and hes one of the only willing managers i can think of who would take it also he already knows what newcastle united is all about having played for us.
96 JJJ // May 28, 2009 at 10:05 PM
Stuart,
Cheer up mate…
Our weakest link in midfield is Butt, but he’d be ok in the championship still. The gulf difference is vast…
Barton is quality if disturbed but still quality when he plays… and Guthrie is far from slow and would be above championship standard.
Nolan too hasnt shown his best form but would be decent in the championship.
And remember, this is with NO investment what so ever…
If Shearer stays he said the squad needs power and pace… so that will come IF he stays… So thats the key I suppose and I’ll be positive he will untill a statement reads he is off…
97 hitman // May 28, 2009 at 10:05 PM
bollox,it dosnt take this long..stardust id like your views,saying you backed ashley to the hillit
98 Little Willie // May 28, 2009 at 10:06 PM
Ya all in dreamland!
The reason why these players came here was for money, they will be happy just taking the money.
Our turnover will probably drop by at least 25%, not to mention the money we still owe clubs for previous transfers and the wages that we will still have to pay.
It’s all relevant, we have high earners with a bog turnover. Next season we will have high earners on a lower turnover.
Were up the creek with a boat lt alone a paddle
———
What players do you think we will struggle to shift exactly?
Also how much do you think we owe out on previous transfers and have you taken into account the money we are owed for players we’ve sold?
As I’ve told you, the only way we are in trouble is if Ashley pulls the plug and it’s been that way since he’s got here.
99 DJG // May 28, 2009 at 10:06 PM
I would like to see us get those two fullbacks.
_______________Krul_____________
Naughton_S.Taylor(c)_Bassong/Kadar_Fox
LuaLua_____Guthrie_Doninger_____Duff
__________Ranger__Vuckic_________
Young hungry team. Out with the old. They got us relegated. After a few games this team would be scoring for fun.
100 Little Willie // May 28, 2009 at 10:08 PM
bollox,it dosnt take this long..stardust id like your views,saying you backed ashley to the hillit
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You don’t know that, you’re just getting in a flap like you were the other day about the talk of a takeover.
If Shearer had turned the club down they would release a statement saying so, until they do then take it that they are still sorting it out.
101 beyethegreat // May 28, 2009 at 10:09 PM
hitman
i agree didnt he say that when he was offered the contract when he firs signed as a player he signed it straight away
102 MarkO // May 28, 2009 at 10:09 PM
ALL except 1st one ive seen him play alot hes nothing special
103 Girth // May 28, 2009 at 10:10 PM
thats a weak midfield personally, and isnt vukic a midfielder?
104 Ed Harrison // May 28, 2009 at 10:10 PM
Girth – this is not meant to be Newcastle being too big for their boots and stealing other players – it’s a list of players who are up and coming in the lower leagues – and we’d be better off looking at these players than big-name signings. We’ve had loads of them and most have been hopeless.
All players are going to be part of some squad – and yes – I think some clubs will resist a Newcastle approach – anyway I didn’t mean this to say – we will go and steal players.
105 JJJ // May 28, 2009 at 10:12 PM
DJG
Your mad to not add in Beye, he is a great professional and top consistant player. And has already stated he is staying…
Harper, Barton, Duff, Beye, Taylor are the only ones of senior players to confirm they want in… and they for me are the players who showed th most heart on the field so I’d be delighted if they did as they be top class in the championship…
If Bassong added himself to that list we’d have the basis for a good squad to build from…
Id get rid of all the other seniors if I could besides Guthrie…
106 Little Willie // May 28, 2009 at 10:12 PM
Slight difference between signing as a player and agreeing to take over as a manager on the condition that certain criteria is met, it’s not a case of Ashley saying yes or no but figures have to be worked out and a plan of action put in place that Shearer is happy with before signing on.
If he wasn’t going to sign then the club would have released a statement, they haven’t so be patient until we find out more.
107 hitman // May 28, 2009 at 10:14 PM
tinny willie it dosnt take this long m8,we all no what the problem is shearer trying to get money out of ashley.which will never happen.
108 hitman // May 28, 2009 at 10:18 PM
why ed,where the biggest club in the championship we can have who we want.lol
109 Prince Bassong // May 28, 2009 at 10:19 PM
DJG, Doninger has left already along with Marwood and Godsmark.
I’m gutted Donny is leaving though, but obviously goal-scoring midfielders don’t belong at this club. I think that decision could come back to haunt us.
Still we’ve got Michael McCrudden and Brad Inman though so that’s the backup sorted for central midfield.
110 JJJ // May 28, 2009 at 10:20 PM
hitman
If Ashley said to Shearer “no money” Shearer would have walked out long ago…
He is still in discussion which means negociations are still taking place…
111 Little Willie // May 28, 2009 at 10:20 PM
Like I’ve said Hitman, you were the one the other day in a big flap over a SSN article about us getting taken over which turned out to be rubbish, you are doing the same here.
Do you think either Shearer or the club would release a statement if any deal had fell through? Of course they would.
I’d say the sticking point is Shearer wants a certain amount of money for transfers and the club can’t afford it, Llambias and co have gone away to crunch some numbers to see what they can come up with and to tell Shearer what they expect from him in reducing the wage bill by certain amount.
The discussions are still going on and when something has happened either way a statement will be released to confirm it.
112 Hugh de Payen // May 28, 2009 at 10:22 PM
I wouldn’t assume there’s a problem with the Shearer-Ashley-Llambias discussions.
There’s about 5 years of rot to sort out and I reckon Shearer will want his responsibilities and the finances he’s getting written down in fine detail to avoid another Keegan situation.
I think he’ll sign, probably some time tomorrow or over the weekend.
113 Girth // May 28, 2009 at 10:24 PM
No need to apologise Ed, know you didn’t mean any malice, im just wary of public sway and thereafter opinion, thinking we are too big for our boots and that we should come straight back up when nothing justifies this apart from self inflated egos!
Totally agree with you though in that these should be the type of players we should be looking at
Oh and Ed….love ya work baby!!!!
114 hitman // May 28, 2009 at 10:26 PM
get a grip ya little prick,ashley has fked this club up from day one,and i says that from day one,but then again you knew diffrent,with ya rumours,that you used to tell us all or was that big willie
115 nufc1818 // May 28, 2009 at 10:30 PM
i dont think it is about the transfer kitty at all…
i think the wait is because shearers lawyers still need too look over it before he signs it
come on guys i know we want him to sign and be done with it but shearer does have a lot of commitments to the bbc and things it will take longer than we want
and probably the bassong thing is taking its time too
116 Girth // May 28, 2009 at 10:31 PM
why does there have to have been a sticking point or a break down somewhere, we are talking about the restructuring and halving the outgoings of a business worth hundreds of millions of pounds, added to the fact we don’t have a manager, im nee business man like, but im assuming this will take longer than 48 hours!!!
117 bowburnmag // May 28, 2009 at 10:35 PM
Am I missing something? When was Coppell at the Makems like?
I rate him mind but it seems strange he’s being branded a failure at S*nderland.
118 Little Willie // May 28, 2009 at 10:35 PM
You’re showing yourself up now, Hitman.
The words get a grip spring to mind, you seem the sort that has to be in a flap about something like a big girls blouse, yesterday it was “OMG KEFF ARRIS IS UP ERE WE ARE DEFINITLY GETING TAKEN OVER” and now that was dismissed you’ve moved on to “OMG SHEARER ISN’T STAYIN! WER DOOMED”
Get a grip you semi illiterate mug.
119 Pedro // May 28, 2009 at 10:43 PM
Is nobody else worried that barton will get ruffed up more by championship players and how exactly he will react?
120 hitman // May 28, 2009 at 10:44 PM
dumper dick ,i was against ashley from day one(the lads on here will back that up,who have been on here a long time),that has never changed,i knew this man would fk us up big time,but then again what do i know.
121 Dragonera // May 28, 2009 at 10:44 PM
What is all this talk of not being able to shift players!? We will be able to shift them, but we will have to significantly lower their transfer fee to make up for their obsurd wages. Expect players to leave for peanuts.
122 Girth // May 28, 2009 at 10:46 PM
know this isnt exactly original, but check it out anyway, made me chuckle, the end two lines are prob the best….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYrLSMQy35E
123 batty // May 28, 2009 at 10:48 PM
i heard some ware shearers lawyers are going over the contract with a fine tooth comb and iam sure if shearer had decided not to take the job he would of come out and said it he wouldnt keep us hanging aroond
124 DJM TOON // May 28, 2009 at 11:01 PM
agreed batty, everyone chill out, why the hell your all discussing this at 11pm when no ounce of opinion is any better or truer than anyone elses.
with the complexities of the deal in question, and with MA history and his lack of due diligence i can bet my bottom dollar AS will do his!!
125 batty // May 28, 2009 at 11:02 PM
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126 batty // May 28, 2009 at 11:04 PM
DJM TOON thanks
127 batty // May 28, 2009 at 11:06 PM
iam 80% that we will get promotion next season and shearer will be our manager
128 ben-nufc // May 28, 2009 at 11:07 PM
mattock ahead of fox for me
delph would be good
scannell no thanks i would rather have victor moses
naughton most defiatley
joe ledley would be good alongside guthrie
an extremley fast goalscorer would play well with carrol
129 batty // May 28, 2009 at 11:07 PM
and if you dont beleive me ask ROD because he is mike ashleys cousin
130 batty // May 28, 2009 at 11:09 PM
and KOMFORT is mike ashleys brother which makes him RODS cousin
131 batty // May 28, 2009 at 11:11 PM
and STARDUST is DERICK LAMBRIAS lol
132 batty // May 28, 2009 at 11:12 PM
and WORKY is mike ashleys helecopter pilot
133 DJM TOON // May 28, 2009 at 11:13 PM
what i saw of victor moses in the u19′s, he ripped bosnia apart… i bet he’s got a hefty price on his head.
who’s he signed to??
134 batty // May 28, 2009 at 11:13 PM
and STUART79 cleans up mike ashleys dogs turds
135 batty // May 28, 2009 at 11:15 PM
with his mouth because thats all that cums out of it shite stuart79 that is
136 rites // May 28, 2009 at 11:19 PM
anyone know what the crack is with sunderland there has been alot of talk recently ?:S
137 hitman // May 28, 2009 at 11:22 PM
should of been drowned at birth.
http://www.newcastle.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=155904
138 hitman // May 28, 2009 at 11:26 PM
ritets,go and take your face for a shit you little mug prick,you support ipswitch for fk sake.
139 ben-nufc // May 28, 2009 at 11:31 PM
djm toon
hes signed to crystal palace
140 rites // May 28, 2009 at 11:32 PM
ooo alright calm down take it easy :p there in much better shape than your little club:) i dont mind geordies dont like you like wish you would just stop talking to me im talking to others not you im sick of you giving me lip
141 Stardust // May 29, 2009 at 12:00 AM
“Little Willie // May 28, 2009 at 10:08 PM
bollox,it dosnt take this long..stardust id like your views,saying you backed ashley to the hillt”
On what point Little Willie? so many in this thread its difficult to know what you want comment on?
142 52times // May 29, 2009 at 12:13 AM
That was hitman, not little willie, stardust.
143 The Alchemist // May 29, 2009 at 12:44 AM
Would love for us to be getting these players in. We need to get the shearer stuff sorted and make approaches for these players. They will need a decent pre season to gel as a team. I’m personally looking forward to us playing some decent football and winning games. If we get promoted next season we will be laughing with the extra tv money and a much lower wage bill, allowing us to push on!
144 nufcforlife // May 29, 2009 at 1:10 AM
i think this team would get us straight back up where we belong:
_______________Krul_____________
Naughton______S.Taylor(c)_______Beye
_________Gomez_____Guthrie_______
______Lua Lua___Vuckic__Commons___
_________Carroll______Cox_________
145 Tom_Toon // May 29, 2009 at 2:39 AM
hahahaha, that bleacherreport is the most luaghable thing i have ever seen.
The author should be strung for crimes against football.
His football knowledge is diabolical.
Look at some of the fees, nay, almost all of them. They are outrageously low.
146 Tom_Toon // May 29, 2009 at 2:40 AM
Scannel is the only one we have a decent, if any, chance of getting from the 5 you picked out Ed.
147 davis_toons // May 29, 2009 at 2:44 AM
For thoes who doubt AS, Let him have a try. All of us will never know.
He will gain the experience he needed to push us forward. He’s got his heart and brain involve with this club already. No one can do more than what he would give us.
148 Tom_Toon // May 29, 2009 at 3:03 AM
hhahaha the bleachereport values Doyle at £3mil when Reading turned down a bid of £7mil from Villa.
Clueless.
149 lesh // May 29, 2009 at 8:52 AM
Blimey, this site’s gine a bit upmarket recently.
Between Warwick Hunt and DJM TOON we’re seeing a potential Poet Laureate – pity you’ve just missed the boat on that one…. But, there is a vacancy for a Professor of Poetry at Oxford – no dirty tricks though!
Ed, what ablout running a site equivalent of Poetry Please? Now that’d be real class and would get rid of the likes of Bennytoon and the like.
Think of the potential Ed.. we could have Thought for the Day first thing, Poetry Please at 10am, chamber music, literature, philsophy…. phew, it’ll beat the lifeout of football and raise ths site’s tone.
150 Tom_Toon // May 29, 2009 at 10:53 AM
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