Ashley Mulling Over Shearer Demands – Decision Delayed Further

After two full days of talks on Tuesday and Wednesday there were no talks at all yesterday between Alan Shearer and the Newcastle United Hierarchy.


The pain of relegation etched on the faces of  Shearer and Dowie Sunday 

The reason no talks were necessary yesterday, seems to be that Alan has gone through all the items on his list with Mike Ashley if he is to take the job – finally.

But it appears no announcement will be made by the end of today, as initially hoped for, and Mike Ashley is said to be feverishly working through Alan’s list of demands and still hoping to clinch the deal to secure the Tyneside Idol as the club’s long-term manager over the weekend.

Mike has apparently told Shearer, his advisers, and wants to convey to Newcastle supporters, to be a little patient, as he works through the financial details on a brand new strategy, suggested by Alan, that will set the club in a new direction for a better tomorrow.

We believe that Shearer will turn the club upside down as he tries to bring the pride and passion back to Newcastle United, which has been drained away this year by the pathetic, gutless and heartless displays of our players, who are way overpaid and don’t appear to care one hoot about the club.

We have never heard one word from the Newcastle captain for months – and we didn’t hear from him much on the field either when it mattered, – as he failed to score in his last 4 months at the club, during which time he earned £1.9M, as he is no doubt now very busy looking for another (sucker) club.

So much for all those experts who said Owen would save Newcastle from relegation with his goals – he scored no goals and we were relegated.

But it will be harder for Michael to find a new club now that he seems to have been found out by Fabio Capello, and even by Alan Shearer, who dropped him after only a couple of games in charge.

The former great Michael Owen’s performances and attitude seem to epitomize the depths the club has sank to, with the squad of players we have, and if Ashley does come to terms with Shearer, which may not be as certain as we first thought, don’t be surprised if the list of players put up for transfer is even more than we expected.

Even if Owen comes back and does well elsewhere, that will only be salt in the wounds for Newcastle fans, because thsi man has already failed miserably at the Newcastle club, whom  he has left in the second division of English football, and that’s after pocketing £22M over 4 years with just 30 goals.

Reports suggest that Shearer has confirmed to Ashley that he is indeed willing to take the St James’ Park job but that he wants a £15M transfer budget up front plus guarantees of how the club will be run with him as manager.

Alan has also told the players he wants to build a squad around and those are Steven Taylor, Habib Beye and Seb Bassong. As we have said before it would be an enormous coup if Alan can persuade the mercurial Bassong to remain at Newcastle, although Taylor and Beye have already come out and said they are on the Shearer train, before it has even left the station.

We understand Shearer will meet with Bassong’s reps today and try to persuade the player to stay – but whether he will be successful is another matter. This could well be an item that Shearer wants successfully negotiated before he says yes to the management job.

Shearer and Assistant Manager Iain Dowie were not at Newcastle’s training ground yesterday, they are currently not in the employ of the club, and it seems they are now waiting on Mike Ashley, Derek Llambias, club secretary Lee Charnley and financial controller John Irving to work through his demands, and reach a decision.

But they also know that Shearer is not in the business of paying games, and he is deadly serious, and what he says is what he means.

Ashley can either come through for Alan Shearer (and Newcastle United), or he will have thrown away his last chance to keep the club, and potentially resuscitate it big time, under the orderly, determined and passionate management of local hero Alan Shearer.

Ashley has made huge mistakes again and again at Newcastle, but if he errs again with Shearer, this mistake will surely be his final one at Newcastle, because the Newcastle fans will just not take it anymore.

So the waiting continues for at least another day (or two) – please let us know if  fans see that white smoke coming out of the Benton training facility.

Comments welcome.

42 comments so far

  • baro

    May 29, 2009 at 2:56 AM

    Comment #1

    hope he mistakes so he can get da hell out of here
    -hope we can get an abu dhabi guy to buy newcastle
    and start haris vuckic and nile ranger

  • Swede

    May 29, 2009 at 3:47 AM

    Comment #2

    The Mistakes has been done, we are not premiership team anymore, but one thing has to be said about MA, he cleared out the decks with the debts that Newcastle was in. Over 100 miljon pounds out in the air, what ever you feel for him, thats done. And the fact that he seem to be trying to forfill the demand list, tells that he is playing ball this time, and hopefully understand this is the best football club in the world and he has the fortune to own it. So Go MA and Shearer, lets begin again properly and with respect…….

  • SirTitusBramble

    May 29, 2009 at 4:14 AM

    Comment #3

    gets me thinking of what would be a necessary transfer budget for next season in the championship…

    what do teams normally spend on average?

  • Sawbuck

    May 29, 2009 at 4:19 AM

    Comment #4

    It’s impossible to have any confidence in Ashley.

    We can see what is going to happen — he’ll try to get promotion on the cheap and derail the club over the mountain pass!

    I wouldn’t be surprised if next September he starts up a fight with Shearer, who will walk out and we’ll effectively be ruined.

  • nufcc

    May 29, 2009 at 4:32 AM

    Comment #5

    Not a day goes by without Ed criticizing owen. Although i do agree with ed that he has not been good for us, however i feel that the criticism of 1 goal for 1.3 million or whatever is too much. He did not ask Newcastle to pay 17 million for him. He did ask for high wages but hey, why did the club offer him that. Why did none of our strikers go above 10 goals per game? Is it because they have become useless over one season? May be the midfield did not supply them with enough to score goals. In anycase i think Ed you should write an article on how useless martins has been this season. Certainly doesnt justify his wages either. I understand that ed speaks his mind but there have been too many shots taken at Owen this season. Hopefully he goes on to prove that newcastle’s midfield was the reason he didnt score more goals.

  • ark13y

    May 29, 2009 at 4:42 AM

    Comment #6

    I’m all for giving Ashley a chance like Swede, but he loaned NUFC the 100 mil and will have the next owner pay it back, no doubt he’ll charge interest.

  • ginkoh

    May 29, 2009 at 4:48 AM

    Comment #7

    If MA cannot reach the Shearer’s goal, It’s mean he should not be our owner anymore or I can say he should not connect with football business again.

    Sell our club to anotherone who ready for it because you don’t deserve any chance anymore.

  • Dragonera

    May 29, 2009 at 4:48 AM

    Comment #8


    I agree with you about Martins, mate. His all-round game has improved over the last two years, but his three weakest areas have remained the same.

    1. Finishing
    2. Reactions
    3. Footballing intelligence

    Also, his true age is beginning to show as he seems to have lost a yard or so of pace. Martins is like the majority of African footballers. The natural ability is there but their massive potential generally isn’t recognised because of below par development at a young age.

  • toonsy

    May 29, 2009 at 7:41 AM

    Comment #9

    I see Mike Ashley has just sold his shares in JJB sports, for a profit! Could be of note?

  • sirjasontoon

    May 29, 2009 at 7:44 AM

    Comment #10

    Time Kills Deals.
    There is no cutting edge at our club everything just seems so sluggish…so almost 1 week after ou downfall and very little progress seems to be being made.
    I think if we are expecting big changes as to how the club is being run we could be sorely mistaken my friends.
    What a sad mess.

  • sirjasontoon

    May 29, 2009 at 7:50 AM

    Comment #11


  • geordie deb

    May 29, 2009 at 8:33 AM

    Comment #12

    Talks only started Tuesday – it is early Friday morning. If it takes them an extra day or two to ensure we have a clear plan that everyone has bought into then so be it in my opinion.
    I also agree with the comments of nufcc regarding Ed criticising Owen and the ueselss players. Why are we raking over all that again on a piece regarding Shearer and Ashley. It’s out of context and just looks petty in my opinion

  • serene0380

    May 29, 2009 at 8:38 AM

    Comment #13

    Michael Owen is history now.

  • sirjasontoon

    May 29, 2009 at 8:53 AM

    Comment #14

    Deb good comment,Can you name a time under Ashley that Newcastle have been seen to have a cutting edge…say for example in the transfer market?

    Everything is sluggish in my opinion,my impression is that Mike does not want to back Shearer with the cash needed to rebuild properly and compete next season,that can be the only stumbling block as Llambias said the other day we want Shearer 110%.

    I hope the Shearer deal does not go through..time to cut with past ties Legends,Messiahs,Geordies etc and get some serious management in there with valuable experience.

    We are not in a position to experiment anymore the choice needs to be the right one Now otherwise we could be dropping down another peg or two in the coming seasons…..Then who will save us?

  • sahota

    May 29, 2009 at 9:05 AM

    Comment #15

    Not sure what to say? Just sheer frustration that we have not listened anything from our club. They should atleast give some kind of statement about whats going on to clarify everyone about situation. I don’t mind any other manager taking up job at our club but what I want is club to provide him resources to get us back. But if Mike don’t give job to Shearer that will make me doubt about Mike’s plans. As that will mean very little will be available upfront in funds to buy new players till old players are sold. And that would mean we will be way behind everyone else in championship. Only GOD can help us. I can just hope everything going well behind curtains at NUFC. Mike should understand all fans have not reacted the way press was expecting. Nobody was shouting for HEAD of Mike. Why can’t he clarify situation to fans. Even a few lines of statement would do wonders than silence.

    And it is good to see that we might get £8m for Martin. BBC gossip column talking about this today.

  • lesh

    May 29, 2009 at 9:06 AM

    Comment #16

    Blimey, this site’s gone a bit upmarket recently.

    Between Warwick Hunt and DJM TOON we’re seeing potential Poet Laureates – pity they’ve just missed the boat on that one…. But, despair not, there is a vacancy for a Professor of Poetry at Oxford – no dirty tricks though!

    Ed, what ablout running a site equivalent of Poetry Please? Now that’d be real class and would get rid of the hoi-polloi, the likes of Bennytoon and the like.

    Think of the potential Ed.. we could have Thought for the Day first thing, Poetry Please at 10am, chamber music, literature, philsophy…. phew, it’ll beat the life out of talking football and raise ths site’s tone.

  • ian

    May 29, 2009 at 9:09 AM

    Comment #17

    If ever you needed clarification that this lot are thick this is it.

    How many outcomes could there have been at the season end? Two, we stay up or we go down.

    That would take four plans, one prepared for if we stay up and sell, one for if we stay up and keep the club. The other we go down and sell the club, the other we go down and keep the club.

    Anyone with half an ounce of intelligence would have worked on these plans all last season with the present squad and their existing contracts to work out possible outcomes depending upon what happens.

    That is called simple mangement, but simple is too complicated for these plums.

    Lets make it up as we go along.

  • sirjasontoon

    May 29, 2009 at 9:17 AM

    Comment #18

    Planning,Vision,Goals,Communication not one of the clubs strong points.

    And then we have the Mackems who seem to have turned the corner and the New owner saying he will just be in the Background funding transfers.

    We are so far behind now it is upsetting to se…I think the days will be alot darker before the club begins to see the light…the damage done over the last couple of years has left the club in a heap.

    I just can’t think of any positives the dream seems dead and buried.

  • geordie deb

    May 29, 2009 at 9:19 AM

    Comment #19

    Hi SJT

    I agree MA’s decision making certainly does not appear to be quick and incisive (to say the least )where NUFC is concerened. However if I had a complex multi million pound business that had recently hit the skids I think I would not be rushed into making quick decisions that could compound the already difficult situation my business was in. If it means taking a few more days to make sure they were the right decisions that were financially sustainable for the long term good of the company then so be it.

  • Geordiedoonsooth

    May 29, 2009 at 9:19 AM

    Comment #20

    On another tack I see that the Fat Plastic Geordie Git Steve Bruce is about to become S*nderland manager. How can a supposedly true Toon Fan manager the sh*te. I hope he takes them down.

  • ian

    May 29, 2009 at 9:26 AM

    Comment #21

    geordie deb,

    But surely you would already have every cost calculated if you had a mutli million pound business? Especially when you do not have to sit down with a calculator you have accountants who will do it for you!!

    Then the only possible problem could be if Shearer says he wants x amount more than you already had calculated, in which case Shearer is the one who would have to say yes or no to the figures already produced or be within a certain tolerance. It would be a quick calculation to how much extra Shearer would add to the takings and this should already have been done while he was playing his last games, afterall the accountants arent on the pitch or tied up in the game.

  • geordie deb

    May 29, 2009 at 9:41 AM

    Comment #22

    I agree. That is my own frustration with the situation, that surely plan B would have been taken out of the drawer and dusted down. I can’t believe MA, DL and AS haven’t had meetings to discuss the impact of relegation and plans for the future. In fact in one of the papers DL was saying they had a detailed plan prepared for if the worst happened. We can only assume that something significant and previously unthought of is putting a spanner in the works. We don’t know the hold up could just be the legal team. I’m trying to remain positive as most things at Newcastle could depress the hell out of anyone if you let it.


    May 29, 2009 at 9:41 AM

    Comment #23

    If Ashley agreed with Shearer the negotiations would have been over in a day.
    The financial implications of Shearer’s proposals can be worked out by a computer in seconds.
    This must be sorted by end of month.

  • geordie deb

    May 29, 2009 at 9:44 AM

    Comment #24

    Goerdiedoon sooth

    Unbelievable that he is likely to be managing the mackems. I can’t imagine the great unwashed fans being thrilled about it either – ha

  • Stuart79

    May 29, 2009 at 9:58 AM

    Comment #25

    Ashley will be deciding whether he can afford to do it Shearers way or sell up.

    Shearer will have told him that it’s either this or do a Leeds.

    Ashley has probably sold his JJB shares cos he needs to the money to invest in the Toon!

  • harry861

    May 29, 2009 at 10:11 AM

    Comment #26

    re sirjaysontoon

    regarding proven managers we’ve had them, the biggest mistake was one Sousness what cock-up he made of it, Signings Boomsong over 8 millions lent Milner out on loan, Bellemy who was ideal for Shearer & scored more goals than Owen,
    Then given the cold shoulder & dropped, Loaned to Celtic who wanted to buy him, Sold for 6 million, yet he was good enough for Liverpool, West Ham, Manchester City & who did he score against Newcastle. He was not ideal for young players to follow trouble outside of football.

    We’ve had proven managers & Shearer was dropped against Sunderland guess who by ?

    Then we had the best manager in Sir Bobby Robson & the exciting football under Manager Kevin Keegan, Which lots of people seem to forget.
    The only chance to win the league & we through it away. Kevins team had Andy Cole & was uproar when he sold him to get Alan Shearer Then we had outstanding Players. Present team apart with one or two exceptions couldn’t hold a candle to them.
    Look at the goals per match of Andy Cole & Alan Shearer scored & compare them with the players Owen, Martin, Viduka.

    I sincerely hope that Alan Shearer is given the chance on his term & contract to that effect to Manager our great Newcastle United. Judge him after 12 months on his team not the team he inherited. The best manager in the world with the these players would be failure.

    I would then think that Ashley had at last some common sense.

  • hitman

    May 29, 2009 at 10:22 AM

    Comment #27

    if ashley isnt committed to shearers plans where do we go from here,the last thing this club needs is more upheaval, this is madness

  • ian

    May 29, 2009 at 10:26 AM

    Comment #28

    Exactly Geordie Deb, they had a whole season to calculate the scenarios, the only major changes were Shearer, Nzogbia and Given. But they still had time to alter their plans with those staff changes. If Shearer is miles away from one of those plans they cant do it.

    It could be the legal team, Shearer may know where Sam and Keegan werent strong enough on the proposed tools to do the job and wants it legally airtight, but again I would have thought that the deals they could offer Shearer had already been worked out and various legal drafts already been made, as Ashley needs to ship out players fast either on sale or loan, so wasting time arguing over £5- 10m could cost three times that if they waste time.

    It just all smells of the usual lack of management skills and organisation, the clock ticks while they waste time again. Already other teams have secured the players the want to stay and identified numbers they want in, probably also dropping a hint to the players agents who they may want, our loyal players who we want to stay could start getting annoyed yet again.

  • punk skunk...

    May 29, 2009 at 10:49 AM

    Comment #29

    Oh wow!..
    …’Delayed’ for 3 whole daze…

    …Ah, the impatience of ya’ average Toon fan…

    …Tune in to reality F.M.

    …Here we go again, some more, already!..

  • LP6

    May 29, 2009 at 10:56 AM

    Comment #30

    To Comment no. 1 Baro –

    It is planks like you that need to keep your mouth shut. For a kick off you cant spell! And the points you make are just pathetic! Be patient, see what comes of these talks!! Why bring in an Arab, all that will happen then is that we’ll pay over inflated fees for averegae players who demand over inflated wages and we will be back to where we have been recently! You obviously dont have an understanding of business and a very limited knowledge of football! Vukcic and Ranger are Kids They will get battered in the rough and tumble of Championship Football. they may be able to gain some experience from playing now and then but from the start weekly… i dont think so. I would rather wait a week or two and here that the club and Mr Shearer had come to an agreement, than a rush job be pushed through without due thought!!!

  • Macas35

    May 29, 2009 at 11:08 AM

    Comment #31

    Ed – Owen looked out of sorts the second half of the season but he had no service as well. At the start of the season he scored 10 goals in 15 starts and 4 sub appearances, a pretty impressive scoring record. Oh, he was our top scorer too for the season. So it’s a bit unfair to say he scored no goals. Yes, he didnt look great near the end of the season but the same could be said of most of our players. He has scored loads more goals than Viduka yet you have been praising Viduka on this site even though he too has been similarly injured for long periods of time.

  • Stardust

    May 29, 2009 at 12:18 PM

    Comment #32

    “ian // May 29, 2009 at 10:26 AM

    Exactly Geordie Deb, they had a whole season to calculate the scenarios, the only major changes were Shearer”

    A pretty significant change Ian dont you think. Its easy to throw mud, easy to whinge from a chair. I suppose your showing yourself again to be a bean counter with no understanding of the changing nature of life.

    Lets concentrate on what if’s that could change the rationale you advocate re your “only 4 outcomes”

    Sheaer appointed manager not JK – therefore your 4 outcomes become 8 as Shearers thouughts for the team are different to JKs and are addressed differently.

    What if Shearer doesnt take the job? Who is the manager if JK doesnt come? How many scenario’s are we at now?

    Now since you all advocate that the manager has control off playing staff – how do we know who is staying and who is going? Of course a football director would have covered that but now he’s gone – so how many variables are we at.

    Its time you got out of the past of being FFS’s mouthpiece and shut up, you embarrass yourself with every whining post.

  • Nick 69

    May 29, 2009 at 12:32 PM

    Comment #33

    Ed- why is it only owen out of our strikers you criticise?? he scored more than oba and viduka combined this season!!

    and if you wanna start working the cost of each goal, why dont you work out how much each of vidukas goals THIS season has cost us! oh wait, thats right, he DIDNT SCORE!!
    so in context he cost us 3mil this season for no goals at all, where as owen cost us appros 500k per goals this season!! whos better value now!!

  • ian

    May 29, 2009 at 12:34 PM

    Comment #34

    Stardust, the plans should have been in place and now being executed, certain players are obvious to stay and new manager or not need clarifying, others have to go out on loan or for sale, I prefer the loan idea with the better ones so moves need making now.

    The staff changes are secondary to complete plan frameworks which should already be in place, see which one the manager fits in to. But the big players have to go and the best cheap players have to stay, Shearer has alrready said which ones he would keep, every other manager will be the same so they may as well be secured now and a press release given before their heads are turned.

    You keep defending a complete shower of useless directors and the owner, they are making it up on the hoof, which is why they keep running out of time and falling on their face.

    New players to come in need choosing by the manager, I hope JK is ok, as I would prefer Roeder or JK as manager to Shearer.

  • Stardust

    May 29, 2009 at 12:40 PM

    Comment #35

    Roeder – it always make me laugh how his is liked by folk.

    Your a statistical man – what you can say with 100% certainty that every position Roeder takes he makes a promising start then freefalls to relegation! Every time!

    I’m incredulous.

    JK I understand but Roeder!

  • Stardust

    May 29, 2009 at 12:43 PM

    Comment #36

    Ian youve wholeheartedly oversimplified a complex scenario – IF Shearer for example is wanted AND they want to do all they can to get him AND he has announced he wants the high wage earners kept – a rationale so obtuse they hadnt factored it – everything changes.

    You differ from me in your views but youre a bright bloke, I’m aghast how you cant see the variances that can and do throw planning out by a distance.

  • ian

    May 29, 2009 at 12:45 PM

    Comment #37

    Roeder is ideal to select a team from scratch, he knows most of the championship players in action, knows most of the youth team players who will now be arriving in the championship, he knows our young players and has a good eye for talent.

    He also is very much for the club a very sensible choice, but too bright a choice for this owner and his supporters, back to tallking about the balance sheet by the end of the transfer window I bet.

  • ian

    May 29, 2009 at 12:51 PM

    Comment #38

    Stardust the variances that are going to be there excluding the manger could have been calculated well before the end of the season, the different potential plans with existing players and future purchase limist could all have been calculated before hand as could Ashley’s own additional limits depending upon who may be interested, Shearer was already here before the end of the season so his sales impact could also have been forecast.

    The new team purchase names could not, but a busget could have been calculated. Keeping the better current players who are close to championship wages could be done without securing a manger as Shearer and everyone else knows which ones they would keep already.
    If you own and run a club of that size you should know your business and there should be no surprises about what a manger may request.
    If Shearer is asking too much the deal needs closing publicly and they need to move on quickly, but those players need securing so they arent riding the roller coaster of a transfer window that we know will follow, they need sorting then off on holiday out of the way.

  • Natureboy95

    May 29, 2009 at 3:53 PM

    Comment #39

    i feel abit frustrated at the lack of news about shearer etc, but i would rather give both parties the time to look at the situation and decide what they want to do,and ask themselves a few simple questions, is this right for the club? , are both parties happy that the situation is workable and can they work together? cause if they don’t, theres no point going any further with it. The club has had to much unheaval in the past, only keegan and robson have stayed for any lenght of time both having relative sucess, so i feel this decision has got to be right for the club to move forward. i don’t know wheather shearer is the best man for the job, but if he takes it on and MA wants him there, then he’s got to be given time and financial backing to do the job for a few years. like martin o’neil at aston villa.

  • Tom_Toon

    May 29, 2009 at 5:12 PM

    Comment #40



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