Joe Kinnear Could Return As Newcastle Manager


Newcastle fan must be asking the question what happens this week if the Banker’s cannot come up with a business plan that incorporates Alan Shearer’s wage and other demands as Newcastle manager?

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Joe Kinnear – could return as Newcastle interim manger – what?

The Newcastle Journal says today that if that happens Ashley could well appoint Joe Kinnear in the interim, at least until the club is sold.

As we continue to point out – this is deja vu  all over again – is this Groundhog Day or what? 😀

But that would be stupid, unless Joe’s the manager the new owners appoint, becasue why let an interim manager bring in players the new manager may not want. Ashley seems to have the knack of really screwing thing up – doesn’t he?

Joe Kinnear filled the manager’s role for four months, from lat September,  following the exit of Kevin Keegan. But then just before the WBA game he was sent to hospital with heart trouble – has been recovering at home and will be given the job if a buy-out does not materialise in the next month.

That’s another crucial event that had it not happened – we think we’d be safe right now – but of ocuyrse Joe worked his socks off for the team, and his old heart trouble returned.

And there was confusion yesterday as to whether the new owner would need to pay the 100M back that Mike loaned the club to pay down thier debts.

A senior United official told the Newcastle Journal today:

“Mike does not want the £100M loan back, he just wants to sell up and get out of there. He has lost more than £150M and we have informed Keith Harris to find a buyer. “

“We have been told there has been interest from a few groups already and so hopefully things will move along quickly.”

“We are still hoping the issues with Alan can be resolved, but it is in the hands of the bankers now and we have to wait until they make a decision.”

“They will decide whether they are acceptable within the financial constraints relegation has brought.”

So this would be fantastic buy for a new owner – Alan Shearer waiting in the wings and a club that gets 52,000 in home gates – yes and that could still be true next season, with some success.

And it’s good to hear there has already been interest from a few buyers, because a quick deal – but only with decent buyers – is crucial to Newcastle’s success next season – and in seasons ahead.

So key this week, is whether the bankers can do the deal – but as Alan has said – and we agree, the Newcastle mansion is burning – and every day that passes is another room burned .

How big is the mansion and how many rooms do we have in it – would be a very good question right now.

We’ll need to hope all this “stuff” sorts itself out quickly – for the good of the Newcastle club and their fantastic fans, who hardly deserve any of this nonsense.

Comments welcome.



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130 comments so far

  • Stardust

    Jun 1, 2009 at 10:48 AM

    Comment #1

    Ed – “So this would be fantastic buy for a new owner ” I have to disagree.

    Who would buy any business where the majority of customers claim the right to manage the business in absence of all facts. Who then riot and demo against decisions made without an informed view?

    It reminds me of someone buying a wagon traders business – who only traded in TNT and Nitro Glycerine.

    Not the safest place to put your cash.

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  • tilley

    Jun 1, 2009 at 10:52 AM

    Comment #2

    Its a piss take really the selling of the club will drag a new manager will drag on – check out chelsea Guss leaves on Sunday new manager this morning

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  • bri h

    Jun 1, 2009 at 10:52 AM

    Comment #3

    if the quotes a right an MA does not want his loan back then the club will be sold very quickly because if and i know its a big if we go straight back to the prem the new owners will see their investment sky rocket in value.

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  • Tommyy

    Jun 1, 2009 at 10:53 AM

    Comment #4

    Get the new (wealthy) owners in, hopefully they can give shearer the 15 million he wants on new players, and sort out the finances and appoint a proper PR department. Then actually go out and get those players without the fannying about from the last few windows! Then during the season gradually solidfy the new structure, and i guarantee we will see a well run, efficient and EFFECTIVE Newcastle United. I wish i was a multi Billionaire, i’d sort this club out once and for all!

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  • beyethegreat

    Jun 1, 2009 at 10:55 AM

    Comment #5

    stardust

    because there is a lot of potential with in our club

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  • sirjasontoon

    Jun 1, 2009 at 10:56 AM

    Comment #6

    JK will save us…Been a long time admirer of Joe Kinnear from his days managing Jurassic Park Juniors.
    Imagine what he could do with 100m arab oil money.

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  • Tommyy

    Jun 1, 2009 at 10:59 AM

    Comment #7

    Stardust – If the club had been run properly in the first place and we were actually INFORMED then there would be no need for any such demonstrations. Ashley brought it on himself, he should have done the research before he signed the dotted line. Granted, the protests were idiotic, but every fan loves this club to bits, and can’t live without it, whereas the majority of fans from other clubs can easily switch off, in which case they wouldn’t state such a strong case. Newcastle United needs to be run properly, otherwise the consequences are dire, as we have seen. Ashley has proved useless in almost every aspect of owning/running (not running) football club, and theres no defending him i’m afraid. We as fans did wrong, but as they say: There’s no smoke without fire.

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  • sirjasontoon

    Jun 1, 2009 at 11:00 AM

    Comment #8

    Step 1 Sell the club to Arabs,appoint a decent manager(that has one things preferably) and give him 50m to assemble a team to get us back up.

    Step 2
    Invest 150m in players next summer.

    We need bankrolled badly.

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  • Tommyy

    Jun 1, 2009 at 11:01 AM

    Comment #9

    JK isn’t the answer. He is past it. We need new blood. I don’t think Shearer is the perfect answer, however, who else is there? who will actually want to come in and do the job? Not many, that’s for sure.

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  • jim

    Jun 1, 2009 at 11:04 AM

    Comment #10

    see the mackems are gona appoint bruce! lol what a joke-hes a NEWCASTLE supporter FFS! why would they wana “MAG” managing the club??? he mite do well, but hes only been at birmingham and wigan and supports NEWCASTLE! HAHAHA they never cease to amaze me with their bright ideas! hes goin for the money and to up his chances of landing a bigger club job ! oh yes he will certainly say all the right things but he will be lying thru his teeth and patronising u for ellis shorts money! when will they ever learn they may aswell apoint Lee Clarke! hahaha SMB’s “BLACK N WHITE BRUCE’S RED N WHITE ARMY!” ? HAHAHA

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  • Widowmaker

    Jun 1, 2009 at 11:05 AM

    Comment #11

    Name me a worse owner in EPL history than MA plz.

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  • stevep

    Jun 1, 2009 at 11:06 AM

    Comment #12

    @tilley – Chelseas managerial record is as bad as ours, Mourinho, Grant, Scolari all sacked, – Hiddink was always an interim manager so they’ve been working on getting Ancelotti since he started – thats 5 managers in 3 seasons!
    none of these managers (with the exception of grant) would touch Newcastle with a barge pole, lets face facts, they goto chelsea because they can buy the best players in the world at almost any price, and get to work with a bunch of players who are motivated with the majority of them having played together for 3-4 seasons.
    There’s been plenty of stuff reported on how bad player power is there

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  • Widowmaker

    Jun 1, 2009 at 11:06 AM

    Comment #13

    Jim, bruce a Toon supporter? I am not with you on this one. He is Man U to me and I won’t change my stance.

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  • Stardust

    Jun 1, 2009 at 11:07 AM

    Comment #14

    Tommy – good post – blame on all sides, accepted.

    Its only folk who blamecast and ignore their own contribution to our downfall that I get upset with.

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  • Stardust

    Jun 1, 2009 at 11:07 AM

    Comment #15

    Widowmaker – Freddie Shepherd.

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  • jim

    Jun 1, 2009 at 11:08 AM

    Comment #16

    They are going to have to put up with him looking at NEWCASTLE UNITED and wishing he was in the Toon hotseat! but, i suppose a jobs a job to him tho lol

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  • Big Dave

    Jun 1, 2009 at 11:10 AM

    Comment #17

    JC this is like a nightmare the last thing in the world we need right now is joker joe

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  • roscoe

    Jun 1, 2009 at 11:12 AM

    Comment #18

    ED!!!

    I think you should put up a link to a list of everyone that has donated… Then everyone can see who has donated what! It should encourage people to donate!

    Cheers

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  • jim

    Jun 1, 2009 at 11:12 AM

    Comment #19

    WIDOW- who told u that? sky sports and news reports for years have stated that Newcastle Utd are his boyhood love and club thru and thru-i may be wrong, but im sure someone will find out……

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  • Archie Brand

    Jun 1, 2009 at 11:13 AM

    Comment #20

    I think its interesting that some people think that Shearer’s inexperience is a problem and others are shouting for Kinnear.
    Keep Shearer on, give him a chance to learn the trade for when we get back next year.

    Sorry, but I just can’t see where this idea that we’d still be up if Kinnear hung about came from.

    We played like crap with him too.

    Apparently the new “Goal” Movie will be filmed at SJP next season, expected to be called “Goal 3”, it apparently has a working title “Black and White – Turned To Shite”

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  • Tommyy

    Jun 1, 2009 at 11:15 AM

    Comment #21

    Stardust – Blame on all sides indeed, I just think that people now are so entwined with this club we don’t see the damage we can sometimes do, which when combined with uselessness at all levels at the club, it all just becomes to much and equates to us now being in the championship and in deep trouble.

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  • jim

    Jun 1, 2009 at 11:17 AM

    Comment #22

    im only jealous really and it doesnt matter who they support-look at rooney with everton- and maybe keegan with liverpool? and loads of others- ide have had steve bruce -just tryin to wind the mackems up and hope it goes dreadfully wrong for them! again!

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  • ian

    Jun 1, 2009 at 11:18 AM

    Comment #23

    I cannot belive that any knowledgable fan would want a novice manager to pick, buy and form a whole new team in a table that they have not even played in, it is romantic nonsense.

    If we already had a half reasonable proven championship squad I could understand your thought behind it, Roeder would be my choice, but Kinnear may be ok, if big money comes in could be Bruce.

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  • Hugh de Payen

    Jun 1, 2009 at 11:19 AM

    Comment #24

    Stardust // Jun 1, 2009 at 10:48 AM

    Who would buy any business where the majority of customers claim the right to manage the business in absence of all facts. Who then riot and demo against decisions made without an informed view?

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    Stardust, to be fair *some* fans did that once.

    It’s not as if it’s a weekly event.

    Also, most owners probably wouldn’t behave the way Ashley did and probably wouldn’t be in that position in the first place.

    And if they did get in that position they would probably be prepared to ignore the fans and demonstrate through their actions that they could make things right, like a good leader should.

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  • beyethegreat

    Jun 1, 2009 at 11:20 AM

    Comment #25

    if shearer gets the job then great but he wouldnt be my first choice that would go to martinez’

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  • Widowmaker

    Jun 1, 2009 at 11:20 AM

    Comment #26

    Jim – he may support NUFC in his boyhood but he has rejected us twice to become the manager. Not an action that will be taken by many NUFC fans, and he wasn’t managing Barcelona.

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  • Ericles

    Jun 1, 2009 at 11:20 AM

    Comment #27

    Who is this Stardust? An enemy at the gates or an enemy within? What are you doing referring to “our” club. You comments show you are probably not part of “our” anything!

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  • beyethegreat

    Jun 1, 2009 at 11:21 AM

    Comment #28

    hugh

    you couldnt blame ashley for wanting to sell up after the demonstartions had it been me i would

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  • durhammag

    Jun 1, 2009 at 11:24 AM

    Comment #29

    Said it before and gonna say it again – Ketsbaia for manager. Has managerial experience at a lower level, has a track record of getting the best out of average players, can manage on a tight budget and understands what the club means to the region. What about Steve Coppell. he’s out of a job, has Premiership and CCC experience, and tries to get his teams playing attractive football.

    By the way I am NOT an advocate of changing managers, but I am merely suggesting these as options if Shearer does walk

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  • beyethegreat

    Jun 1, 2009 at 11:24 AM

    Comment #30

    ericles

    he is a toon fan

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  • beyethegreat

    Jun 1, 2009 at 11:26 AM

    Comment #31

    durhammag

    i doubt coppell would come i get the feeling he doesnt like the limelight

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  • durhammag

    Jun 1, 2009 at 11:30 AM

    Comment #32

    Beyethegreat

    Think you could be right there. Pity. I liked Coppell as a player and a manager. Thought he had the right idea as to how football should be played. Mind you, he appears to struggle to maintain consistency.

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  • Stardust

    Jun 1, 2009 at 11:37 AM

    Comment #33

    Hugh

    “Also, most owners probably wouldn’t behave the way Ashley did and probably wouldn’t be in that position in the first place.

    And if they did get in that position they would probably be prepared to ignore the fans and demonstrate through their actions that they could make things right, like a good leader should.”

    Agreed on all fronts – we now know, after Llambias statements, it was a deliberate decision to hide after the riots.

    That aside – the fans should have listened to those begging them to stop making us unmanageable. Blame on all sides.

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  • Toon Graeme

    Jun 1, 2009 at 11:44 AM

    Comment #34

    Stardust – i think there is fault on all sides which has lead us upto today.

    I was on a plane coming back from bulgaria when the bed sheet brigade were demostrating and couldnt beleive that it was done. Since then snowball effect which slowed for a while and then picked up pace and well championship here we are.

    A crap year.

    Could it be that NUFC is skint and ashley is no longer willing to put funds in to keep the club afloat?

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  • Whumpie

    Jun 1, 2009 at 11:44 AM

    Comment #35

    Yep, blame on all sides. No individual could cause this big a disaster.

    And while I do hold MA primarily responsible, I think he merely accelerated the demise kicked off in 2004 by Fat Fred. And I don’t agree with those conspiracy theorists who think he’s somehow doing this deliberately or is enjoying this.

    On the contrary – I think this is the worst time of his life and he’s utterly miserable.

    So there you go – silver lining. 🙂

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  • Hugh de Payen

    Jun 1, 2009 at 11:47 AM

    Comment #36

    beyethegreat // Jun 1, 2009 at 11:21 AM

    hugh

    you couldnt blame ashley for wanting to sell up after the demonstartions had it been me i would

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    Well, yes and no (how’s that for sitting on the fence?).

    I certainly understand why he was upset and pi55ed off.

    But Ashley could have avoided a lot of grief by explaining what the hell went on. We simply weren’t told (and still haven’t been).

    If Keegan was being unreasonable – demanding money that just wasn’t there or responsibilities for transfers against some previous agreement – then I think more fans would have understood. Not all, certainly, but more.

    And then you have to think about Ashley’s motivation. If he really wanted to make a success of the club he would have pushed through regardless.

    I’ve run businesses for the last 15 years and I remember one time we screwed up 2 servers, effectively taking the product away from 1/2 my customers in an instant.

    The phone was red hot, complaints were rife, my email inbox was jammed full of customers threatening to leave, to sue, ruin me, whatever.

    I could have just walked away, written off the customers and said ‘sod it’, but my overriding motivation was to make it a success.

    I spoke to all the customers, apologised and – most importantly – worked 72 hours solid with my team to make it right, keeping customers informed all the time.

    I got through it. Nobody sued me. A few customers left (I offered refunds to all of them) but the ones that stayed turned out to be even more loyal because of the way I’d reacted in a crisis.

    Now I know there’s a big difference in scale between what happened to me and what happened to Ashley, but the principle’s similar.

    Imagine if a government ran away everytime there was a demonstration?

    I’m just not convinced Ashley ever really knew what he was taking on when he bought NUFC

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  • Nick D

    Jun 1, 2009 at 11:50 AM

    Comment #37

    Ed what are you on about?

    Kinnear didn’t work his socks off. He was hardly ever at training and he got ill because he is obese and has a very bad lifestyle.

    Sirjasontoon, manager of jurassic park juniors love it classic !!!!

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  • huz

    Jun 1, 2009 at 11:50 AM

    Comment #38

    Alan Curbishley could be a better alternative.

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  • Angryman the Angry fan

    Jun 1, 2009 at 11:51 AM

    Comment #39

    IM BACK

    I would just like to start off with my Old Adversary STARDUST….Blame on all sides, changed our tune some what stardust havent we?

    It used to always be the Linch mob, the bed sheet brigade and the mob rule that ruined our club, nothing to do with Cashley and the Cock head mafia?? That was your official line!! but now….its a Fault of all sides?? I couldnt disagree more!! (Surprise surprise)

    i said months n months n months ago, maybe even my last post before a took self imposed exile, that Cashley and the Cock heed mafia would take us down, them and them only….the fans do not have the ability to relegate a club, unless they stop going, thus stop the funding, thus causing the club financial colapse and then obviously either folding or simply dropping like a stone!! Regardless of your “Mob Rule” the fans stayed at St James’ in their droves, spending their hard earned on a bunch of Cock heed wasters, cos lest face it, it wasnt reinvested!!

    The problem is people like you contributed to the relegation of this football club, by continually championing a Cock heed waster, saying how he was doing things right, hes deserves a chance etc etc etc….and yet now by his own admission he done nothing but big a big arse of it, from day 1!!! And you STILL come on here giving it he mob this the mob that.

    THIS CLUB IS NOT UNMANAGEABLE!! THE FANS HAVENT MADE IT UNMANAGEABLE, FAT CASHLEY AND HIS COCK HEED MAFIA HAVE MADE IT UNMANAGEABLE!! THEM AND THEM ONLY!!!

    i stated then that they would take us down, i was right, you were wrong…..so stop coming on here trying to justify your protestations at me and fellow realists, and give yourself a smack around the head and come to your senses.

    get fat man out and new people in and give THEM your backing as a TRUE fan!!!!

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  • Hugh de Payen

    Jun 1, 2009 at 11:52 AM

    Comment #40

    Stardust // Jun 1, 2009 at 11:37 AM

    That aside – the fans should have listened to those begging them to stop making us unmanageable. Blame on all sides.

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    Stardust, you’re right on that point.

    I am critical of some fans too: those who are impatient and expect overnight miracles (or 8-week miracles as in Shearer’s case).

    I think as fans we can do our bit by being more patient and cool-headed.

    But the passion Ashley saw after the Keegan stuff was also the passion that puts 52,000 bums on seats even when we’re fighting relegation, so it can’t be criticized too much.

    I think we have a right to voice an opinion – we are after all the customers – but maybe there’s a balance to be found.

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