Bristol City’s Orr Linked With Newcastle – Really?

One of the players being heavily linked with a move to Newcastle United is former Magpie Bradley Orr.


Bradley Orr – 26 year-old Bristol City right back

But the Liverpool born Orr never played for the first team at Newcastle and left for Bristol City on a  free transfer in 2004. But Alan will know all about his play, as they would have trained and practiced together.

The right back has so far played 189 times for Ashton Gate club, with 10 goals, and presumably would be an understudy to Habib Beye, and he just signed a new two and a half year deal with Bristol City in January.

We have no idea what kind of fee we’d need to pay for this player, and he may be one of the players Alan has already almost ties up – awaiting his appointment as Newcastle manager.

It’s clear Shearer seems to want to fix the full back positions at the club – on both sides, since we were short of full backs last  season, and had to play center backs and wingers there a lot of the time.

At the same time we had 8 strikers fighting it out for the two starting positions up fornt, and the squad was extremely unbalanced, as Alan has already pointed out.

Bad planning – as usual from the Ashley team, and with the lack of full-backs in the squad, who do we sign for £5.7M on th last day of the transfer market last September?

In his wisdom (or lack of it) Dennis Wise brought ina  Spanish striker of course – Xisco, who was hopeless last season.  No wonder Kevin was livid.

The disturbing news on Orr is the 26 year-old spent 14 days in prison following an assault outside a Bristol nightclub in October, 2005.  Oh, here we go again, and we’d be very surprised if Alan signs another player who has seen time in jail, as we are having enough trouble getting rid of bad boy Joey Barton.

Also jailed in the same incident were fellow teammates Steve Brooker for 28 days, and David Partridge for 2 months.  It was 1st September, 2006 that Orr was sentenced to 28 days in jail relating to the incident in the previous October.

Orr and Brooker were released on September 14th 2006, serving only half of their original sentence. Is this the kind of stuff we want to be talking about our players at Newcastle?

But Orr, on the good side of things, was named in the PFA’s Championship team of the season 2007/08.

On November 27, 2008, Bristol City placed Orr on the transfer list, because he had rejected several contract offers, but then in January of this year, the club announced Orr had signed a two-and-a-half-year contract at the club.

What do you think about this player for Newcastle?

Comments welcome.

37 comments so far

  • sirjasontoon

    Jun 2, 2009 at 10:47 AM

    Comment #1

    Just what we need.

  • stevep

    Jun 2, 2009 at 10:49 AM

    Comment #2

    Maybe we can’t tar him with the same brush as Barton, everyone deserves one chance, but why does it seem that it’s always the toon that gives them it!

  • sirjasontoon

    Jun 2, 2009 at 10:53 AM

    Comment #3

    I think we should avoid any players with Similar baggage we should have learned our lesson by now.

    I still think Joey should stay though,even after all he has done he is better than what we have got or will get at this moment in effect we need Joey more than he needs us.

    I know alot of you hate Joey and with good reason I am just trying to be rational and think he would murder the fizzy’s literally ! 🙂

  • Macas35

    Jun 2, 2009 at 10:56 AM

    Comment #4

    He made one mistake, he’s not a consistent head case like Barton. And I imagine Shearer may move Beye to centre half next season.

  • Nick 69

    Jun 2, 2009 at 11:13 AM

    Comment #5

    we already have beye and to be honest i think ryan taylor will still be here next season imo, and may even be decent in the championship

  • LoonyToony

    Jun 2, 2009 at 11:17 AM

    Comment #6

    I live in Bristol and i cannot rate this guy enough. Obviously all that are around me really rate the lad and he puts in some good performances on a regualr occurance. Yes he defintaly has baggage but its not on the same scale at barton.

    This lad has cleaned up his act really well and i think he would be a great signing for us. Last season after the play off finals he was mooted to be catching the attention of prem clubs..Only to decide to stay at Bristol City.

    If we could get him for a good price, i think he would be a tidy signing.

    Although i do feel that Ryan Taylor will come good in this league!

  • Ed Harrison

    Jun 2, 2009 at 11:19 AM

    Comment #7

    LoonyToony – that’s excellent input for the rest of us!

  • reetpetite

    Jun 2, 2009 at 11:26 AM

    Comment #8

    I think you can pretty much ignore all links to players made in the media. I cant see Ashley signing players when you dont know who the manager will be. He has lost enough money without buying players that the new manager might not want.

  • Micky Toon

    Jun 2, 2009 at 11:40 AM

    Comment #9

    Thanks loony for the insight, much better than anything that would be reported in the press. As for his jail time, we don’t seem to mind that Ranger has been inside and cleaned up his act, so why not this lad?

  • DevonMag

    Jun 2, 2009 at 12:19 PM

    Comment #10

    Reetepetite, I’m with you on that. The rumour mill begins…

  • Sav

    Jun 2, 2009 at 12:28 PM

    Comment #11

    That’s a fair point, MickyToon. Maybe Orr needs a change of scene. I never heard he was in trouble during his time here before and Shearer will know him personally. Perhaps we also shouldn’t forget that NUFC is carrying a bit of baggage herself at the moment, what with Nolan about to be Saved from relegation ignominy” by Hull and “Owen Rescued from Toon Hell” by Moyes. You have to laugh at these jokers.

  • stevep

    Jun 2, 2009 at 12:42 PM

    Comment #12

    reetpetite – I reckon we can pretty much ignore the media full stop – they are full of sh!te

  • sahota

    Jun 2, 2009 at 1:23 PM

    Comment #13

    Why we still have not listened anything form our club officials. Its frustrating.

  • reetpetite

    Jun 2, 2009 at 1:32 PM

    Comment #14

    ssn are saying that city are in talks with barry. Just like to point out i said this last friday i think it was. Still no news on owen going to liverpool though which i also said was adone deal.

  • lesh

    Jun 2, 2009 at 1:35 PM

    Comment #15

    sahota // Jun 2, 2009 at 1:23 PM

    Why haven’t we heard from the club?

    Two reasons:

    1 – they’re not the best of communicators and

    2 – any sale’ll be conducted in the utmost confidentiality.

    Look a Portsmouth….. its sale came out of the blue as did Ashley’ purchase of NUFC.

    Have patience and have faith in fate…..what is meant to be, will be!

  • G 2

    Jun 2, 2009 at 1:36 PM

    Comment #16

    You know nothing reepaspud, now jog on ya toby.

  • ObaFan2

    Jun 2, 2009 at 1:43 PM

    Comment #17

    Could be worse, we could be linked with Bramble again:

    “Sunderland will make a £5m bid for Wigan defender Titus Bramble, once Steve Bruce is installed as manager.” – Daily Star

  • Toon Graeme

    Jun 2, 2009 at 1:46 PM

    Comment #18

    Cant beleive I am sat here anxcious to hear about Shearer and NUFC.

    Its one thing after another and sick of it!

    Lead upto the Pompey, Borough, Fulham and Villa was bad enough!

  • Rangerman

    Jun 2, 2009 at 1:56 PM

    Comment #19

    Bramble’s turned into a decent footballer at Wigan and has been more reliable than either Steven Taylor or Coloccini.

    Surprising what can happen when your confidence isn’t shot to bits by your own fans getting on your back.

  • toonsy

    Jun 2, 2009 at 2:03 PM

    Comment #20

    reetpetite – whats up? you last few days of comments have not been seeking to wind us up and have had some sense! you ok? lol

  • Macas35

    Jun 2, 2009 at 2:07 PM

    Comment #21

    Rangerman – Fans didn’t get on Bramble’s back during games to be honest, he just made horrendous mistakes time and time again. At the end of the day he just didn’t have a lot going on upstairs.

  • Micky Toon

    Jun 2, 2009 at 2:07 PM

    Comment #22

    I tell you what is interesting about this whole saga. The NUSC are very, very conspicuous with their silence. I thought these were the fans voice, yet they seem more interested in putting on bingo nights in local pubs.
    These are the types of situations where we need a single voice to get a fans perspective over to the club and to report back on anything they hear. I’m glad I didn’t waste my money joining up.

  • ObaFan2

    Jun 2, 2009 at 2:15 PM

    Comment #23

    Bramble is everything but consistent and as said the fans did not get on the guys back.

    However if you’d said some defensive training had helped him along I’d have agreed.

    Also agree with Maca about having little going on upstairs.. lol

  • Rangerman

    Jun 2, 2009 at 2:22 PM

    Comment #24

    The fans were gasping whenever the ball went near Bramble and a mass groan could be heard whenever a pass was over hit which shot his confidence to bits.

    At Wigan he doesn’t get anyone on his back and he’s allowed to go out and play his game, the fans don’t expect every pass to be perfect or no player to ever make a mistake and he’s improved in a more relaxed atmosphere.

  • Sir Erec

    Jun 2, 2009 at 2:29 PM

    Comment #25

    Hello lads, been a long while since I’ve posted.

    This whole situation has been quite dire hasn’t it. I’ve been sat here everyday anxious for more news on the transfer and business fronts, as I’m sure many of you have been. However, from the looks of things, from what Shearer has said and such, I am of the belief that Ashley did not just all of a sudden decide to sell Newcastle United and Shearer was in on it too. Now this is not some big conspiracy as it is not exactly a horrendous act but I don’t think Shearer was not aware of it. In my view it helps point out why Shearer had an 8 week contract amongst other things, as Ashley had maybe planned that he might end up selling relegation or not.

    In terms of the transfer situation, Orr seems like a decent prospect, I mean at least we’ll have someone to backup good ol Habib Beye as I don’t think Ryan Taylor is up to the job. However, with more games he might prove me wrong, which I would love to be the case. As for Orr’s past with violence, well it wouldn’t be Newcastle without a colourful background!

    I would like to see us bring in bigger players. Stoke and Bolton are two teams in my opinion that have bigger, stockier players that would come very handy in the Championship. We don’t have to necessarily play football like the two afore mentioned clubs, but however, I think it is very vital that we have players in the mold of our former player and current Stoke captain Faye. To be honest, I don’t know why he was sold, and for only 2.5million. What a shame.

    Any of these players I would like to see in realistically.

    Owen Garvan
    Matthew Kilgallon
    Kyle Walker
    Jack Cork
    Ben Turner
    Grant Basey
    Daniel Fox
    Chris Gunter (loan)
    Darron Gibson (loan)
    Kieran Gibbs (loan)
    Roger Johnson
    Aron Gunnarsson
    Stephen Hunt
    Kevin Doyle
    Andrew Surman
    Adam Lallana

  • Macas35

    Jun 2, 2009 at 2:31 PM

    Comment #26

    I disagree about the fans moaning at his passing, I don’t think he received treatment worse than any other players at the time. And let’s face it, he had been dropped at Ipswich when we signed him which tells you something. The lad is built like a tank but was simply too erratic and error prone. And at the end of the day if a player can’t handle pressure then he shouldn’t be at a big club, so maybe he has found his level. Not saying that we are a big club of course, but at the time we were doing well!

  • Micky Toon

    Jun 2, 2009 at 2:38 PM

    Comment #27

    I agree with obafan2 Bramble had some talent, but he was very, very inconsistent. On his day he could ping a pin point pass from the back of the field right onto the strikers boot, but his lack of concentration often cost us.
    You can’t blame the fans for Brambles poor performances, just like you can’t credit the fans when he did well.

  • ObaFan2

    Jun 2, 2009 at 2:38 PM

    Comment #28

    After his horredous mistake at the start of the season he did seem to improve and probably on e of the most improved players in the EPL last season.

    However the Maccums are welcome to him 🙂

  • Sir Erec

    Jun 2, 2009 at 2:39 PM

    Comment #29

    well put Macas35, very well put.

    Different players can perform at different environments.

    Hence why not everyone makes the grade at say Manchester United or looks like a world beater at I don’t know Charlton.

  • Sir Erec

    Jun 2, 2009 at 2:48 PM

    Comment #30

    well put Macas35, very well put.

    Different players can perform at different environments.

    Hence why not everyone makes the grade at say Manchester United or looks like a world beater at I don’t know Charlton.

    Colo and Jonas are two decent examples. Good in Spain, but in England mediocre in Jonas’s case and shocking in Colo’s.

  • Micky Toon

    Jun 2, 2009 at 2:56 PM

    Comment #31

    And who can forgot Hugo Viana(spelling?)? A world class youngster that just didn’t cut the mustard at NUFC.

  • Macas35

    Jun 2, 2009 at 3:25 PM

    Comment #32

    Personally I liked Viana, just don’t think he was given enough game time by Robson, who preferred Jenas for some bizarre reason. Cue the Robinson Crusoe look and the wild mad glare at Robson! At a club like Man U the young players would have been rotated better and he would have got more of a chance. He lacked pace but still think he could have made it with the right backing.

  • Geoff65

    Jun 2, 2009 at 4:33 PM

    Comment #33

    Bristol City ST holder – you wont want this guy – he is ok and only ok in the championship and only as a full back with absolutely no and I mean none offensive qualities – his crosses either never get past the first defender or alternatively end up on the roof. He gets a bit pissy with his right winger if the doughnut doesnt do exactly what he wants of him.

    His past is the past and he is now a clean living reborn again Christian type (church every sunday and all that) – he just had twins and comes with a heavy scouse accent.

    In terms of transfer value – I am guessing we would want £750k probably accept £500k but if Roy Keane and Newcastle are in the frame to buy him then the price will be inflated.

  • Tom_Toon

    Jun 2, 2009 at 7:44 PM

    Comment #34

    Dont want no born again Christian at a club.

  • Tom_Toon

    Jun 2, 2009 at 7:44 PM

    Comment #35

    Marvin Elliott and Simon Cox would be my two top targets.

  • Sav

    Jun 3, 2009 at 4:50 AM

    Comment #36

    As long as we get sorted with a couple of decent full-backs. As Bramble has had such a great season with Wigan, Gooch Onweyu has won his second title with Liege and Rosenhal the Coppa D’Italia with Lazio, you have to wonder whether we are too quick to judge centrehalves when we don’t protect them with decent fullbacks.
    Similarly, we blame Oba and other strikers for not getting goals when there are no creative players. For instance, 2 assists for Duff last year is a shocking stat. A holistic approach is necessary in future. There has to be something wrong when we go through centrehalves yet they prosper elsewhere.

  • Tom_Toon

    Jun 3, 2009 at 11:32 AM

    Comment #37



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