Much Worse Ahead For Newcastle Warns Leeds Fan

Gary Edwards is a Leeds United fan, who has not missed a Leeds game since 1968, and he recently talked to the Evening Chronicle about what it’s like when your team takes a gigantic fall from grace – as in relegation, and more than one too.


Newcastle fans – there’s much worse to come

Edwards is a painter and decorator, and he went from watching Leeds United take on Valencia in the magnificent Mestalla Stadium in Spain, to now visiting places like Hereford, Yeovil and Hartlepool in just a few seasons.

Edwards  has also written a series of books about his experiences following the Leeds United dramatic decline of the last few years (since 2004) , and says:

“I have followed Leeds everywhere through the bad times as well.” “I wrote my first book and called it Paint It White because I am a painter but refuse to use the colours of Man United and won’t use red paint.”

“My second book was called a Second Coat for our travels in the second league, or the Championship as they call it, and in League One I am working on a third called No Glossing Over It.”

“It’s basically a story of following Leeds through thin and thin, and I know exactly how the Newcastle fans must feel.”

“It can get worse with the financial implications involved with relegation, but for me the one thing that has been so magnificent about Leeds is the fans – and I think Newcastle will be exactly the same.”

“When you lose your Premier League status and the big stars move on, you aren’t left with too much, or at least that’s how you feel.”  “But Newcastle, like Leeds, will take fans everywhere and sell out away ends.”

“We had the best crowds in League One last season and we sold out every away game.”

Unfortunately Leeds fans will have to endure another season in League One following their defeat against Millwall in the play-offs last month, meaning that they will travel a total of  around 8,000 miles.

Similarly in the Championship, Newcastle fans face long away trips to Bristol City, Plymouth, Swansea and Cardiff next season, and some of them likely to have 5.15 pm kick-offs on a Saturday evening.

Edwards said:

“When you take 4,000 people all the way to Brighton it is bound to get the camaraderie going.” “I actually prefer the long away trips for that.”

“What I like about fans at Newcastle and Leeds is that they will stick with their club.” “It’s what you do, isn’t it?”

“No matter who the owner is, the manager or the players, the club will always belong to the fans.”

For most opposing teams Newcastle United fixtures will be their cup final next season, and Edwards says that Leeds have experienced exactly the same thing.

Gary continued:

“It will happen to Newcastle.” “It’s an old cliche, but they will be everybody’s big cup final.”

“It happened to us in the Championship – everybody wants to put in 100% effort to get a scalp.” “It will happen at certain clubs.”

“But then you get Leicester City who were with us in League One last season but then got promoted.”

“They seemed to be invisible to the rest of the league and most teams just rolled over for them.” “It’s frustrating.”

There has been no shortage of  similarities between Newcastle and Leeds of late. The worst that can happen to Newcastle is that we do a  Leeds United, but since that’s already happened to the unfortunate Yorkshire club, hopefully we will be able to learn from that.

But of course the guy in charge of Newcastle right now is so incompetent it’s hard to believe he can learn from anything.  Certainly the longer he continues to have the club tied up in chains so nothing can get done, the more likely it is that we will emulate Leeds, in our fall from grace.

Not only has relegation been emulated, but it has also not gone unnoticed that two of Leeds stars in 2004, when they were relegated from the Premier League, Alan Smith and Mark Viduka, were both on Newcastle’s books last season.

Edwards added:

“I’m not surprised in some ways.” “Viduka was a class act – but only when he could be bothered.”

“When he got sent off in the last game at Bolton in 2004, it was almost like he had given up the fight.”

“And as far as Alan Smith is concerned, he lost a lot of Leeds fans when he left the club for Man United not too long after we got relegated.”

“It suggested he didn’t care.”

In the three weeks since relegation, it’s hard to pinpoint anything at all that the Newcastle club has done right, and it seems Ashley and Llambias are back in their bunker, unwilling to talk to fans (or players) about what’s going on.

Nothing has been said to the fans whatsoever, other then the club will be sold for £100M on a  first come first served basis – and by email too. 😀

And that’s exactly how they handled the club for four months after Keegan was ousted from the club. They have no right at all to be running a football club, and they have proved that multiple times over in these last two years.

What they are doing to the Newcastle club right now is almost criminal.

Comments welcome.

27 comments so far

  • KevinHann

    Jun 13, 2009 at 12:55 PM

    Comment #1

    That was a good post, Ed. A bit of a reality check for fans and how life supporting Newcastle will change for them. Informative, helpful, multiple-layered. Nice work.

  • Tel

    Jun 13, 2009 at 1:00 PM

    Comment #2

    Ed, come on you were going to quit the blog because of the time it took, theres no need to publish so many articles one after the next, all the same good article, but take a break occasionally.

  • Tino 11

    Jun 13, 2009 at 1:04 PM

    Comment #3

    Hey virgil, what do you think of that mackem fan who made up the hoax newcastle takeover?

    Vigil – “SMB”

    Thunderbirds are go!

  • Tino 11

    Jun 13, 2009 at 1:04 PM

    Comment #4


  • listie

    Jun 13, 2009 at 1:05 PM

    Comment #5

    The way things are going, i’d take mid table safety next season with both hands!

  • Tel

    Jun 13, 2009 at 1:07 PM

    Comment #6

    Play offs and a trip to wembley would be good, whats it now 11 years since?

  • KevinHann

    Jun 13, 2009 at 1:13 PM

    Comment #7

    Listie – don’t underestimate our stature. I wouldn’t take anything for granted. Leeds were in enormous trouble and their first season in the Championship ended in closely missed promotion.

  • KevinHann

    Jun 13, 2009 at 1:14 PM

    Comment #8

    Tel – the new Wembley, never? 🙂

  • Rangerman

    Jun 13, 2009 at 1:22 PM

    Comment #9

    On the plus side I’m looking forward to next season.

    *A chance to get rid of the overpaid wasters

    *Better chance of seeing us win games

    *Some great new stadiums to visit that I haven’t been to yet

    *A chance to see the club build itself back up

    leeds didn’t come back up but plenty of other clubs have been down in my lifetime and came back, Villa went down a few years after winning the European cup for example.

  • Toon Graeme

    Jun 13, 2009 at 1:27 PM

    Comment #10

    Well Im paid up for the Championship – usual seat in the leazes.

    Level 7 is closed for cup matches now. Away teams are level 2/4 of west corner.

  • komfort

    Jun 13, 2009 at 1:39 PM

    Comment #11

    tg , when did you get your renewal ? , i haven’t got mine yet ..

  • Toon Graeme

    Jun 13, 2009 at 1:43 PM

    Comment #12

    Komfort – I renewed on -line last night and got my invite this morning.

    Nowt exciting – just advises that all season ticket renewals will be processed 1st – 11 th july then gan out to public for who ever moves or doesnt rnw.

  • batty

    Jun 13, 2009 at 1:48 PM

    Comment #13

    komfort // Jun 13, 2009 at 1:39 PM

    tg , when did you get your renewal ? , i haven’t got mine yet ..
    <<<<sunderland havent sent theres out yet so u will have to wait

  • komfort

    Jun 13, 2009 at 1:54 PM

    Comment #14

    well i’m hoping the dog beats me to it .. he enjoys eating the post.

    batty , i need to top my candy up .. now would you be so kind as to furnish me with a cert..


  • batty

    Jun 13, 2009 at 1:57 PM

    Comment #15

    komfort york 525 bravely

  • komfort

    Jun 13, 2009 at 2:02 PM

    Comment #16

    thank you kind sir ..

  • Johno Toon

    Jun 13, 2009 at 2:18 PM

    Comment #18

    cheers batty , ill be on that myself , very unlucky last week

  • ChrisToon1988

    Jun 13, 2009 at 2:26 PM

    Comment #19

    Whats SMB Mean??

  • komfort

    Jun 13, 2009 at 2:28 PM

    Comment #20

    sad mackem batty

  • batty

    Jun 13, 2009 at 2:46 PM

    Comment #21


  • Doocey

    Jun 13, 2009 at 3:16 PM

    Comment #22

    SMB = Sound Mechanics Board.

    Ah no lol

    Any news, we’re still in the fck**in mire :@

  • Waddles mullet

    Jun 13, 2009 at 3:33 PM

    Comment #23


    won’t know anything till wednesday.

    Think its too late anyway

  • UTD111

    Jun 13, 2009 at 4:20 PM

    Comment #24

    That “bunker” comment is a bit unfair about Llambias Ed…..why only yesterday I got a nice letter from him asking me to send him £494.

    I’m busy composing my response at the moment…..:o/

  • LBToon

    Jun 13, 2009 at 5:24 PM

    Comment #25

    A tough year ahead? Maybe. From this experience, I’ve come to one conclusion: Newcastle is bigger than its owner (any owner). They will be gone, the fans will always be here.

    The fans must focus on their role ensuring the club exists. As hard as this is to swallow, it means buying tickets.

  • madman67

    Jun 13, 2009 at 6:10 PM

    Comment #26

    well just finished last nights comments by kevin hann, then todays stuff. must say it was a very interesting read. especially as yesterday or day b4, there was an interesting r4 prog on about dodgy bettin in the conference leaugues…with sum games having all bets suspended….i have heard about the villa game, attracting sum attention, sorry but forget where…or i read it somwhere…anyway…

    just thought id say that i enjoyed reading last nights, and this mornings blog. so cheers ed and all the blog users…lol

  • Tom_Toon

    Jun 14, 2009 at 12:46 AM

    Comment #27



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