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Four Consortia Start Due Diligence On Newcastle Books Today

11:13 am, Wednesday, June 17th, 2009 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 105 Comments

Former Newcastle Chairman Freddy Shepherd is a leading figure in one of the four consortia that today will start inspecting Newcastle’s books, before formal bids are made for the club.

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Sultan of Oman - one of four bidders starting due diligence today?

Due diligence can take up to 2 weeks, but there is hope that if all four consortia want Alan Shearer as manager, which is heavily rumored to be the case, Shearer could be appointed manager while the due diligence continues. We are hoping that something will be announced later this week on that.

All groups interested in the club had to prove they had the funds – £100M – to buy the Tyneside club by last night – and four qualified, as we now understand.

The four groups have not been officially identified, nor will they be, but it’s being reported in the Northern Echo today they believe the four organizations are as follows:

  • A local consortia fronted by former Chairman Freddy Shepherd - it is thought the funds are coming from their own money, and will not be funded from overseas
  • A group based in South Africa, and that’s all we know about this one – it’s rumored he’s a rich banker
  • The group in Oman which is headed up by the Sultan of Oman, whose wealth is greater than that of Queen Elizabeth II – they presumably have little trouble about the money
  • A group based out of the US, and we have had not seen any hints as to who this may be – but of course there are many many possibilities – US companies have vast experience on how to run sports teams with some success, and they generally treat the fans with great respect – their customers

We’ll point out that the Profitable Group from Singapore didn’t appear to make it, and presumably couldn’t produce proof they had the £100M funds. There had been some significant skepticism last week they had insufficient funds to buy the Tyneside club.

Freddy Shepherd, like the other groups, has signed a confidentiality agreement with owner Mike Ashley after his newly-formed business group confirmed they indeed have the £100M funding that was a prerequisite for being granted access to Newcastle’s latest set of accounts.

It was reported earlier that he was bidding £75M, but the fact that four groups have qualified to start due diligence, has to be an excellent sign the club will be sold soon.

We have to hope the groups will come in with some additional funds that Alan Shearer can use in the summer, to significantly strengthen the squad.

We’ll again clarify that this news is taken from the Northern Echo and since we’ve covered most of these groups over the last 2 weeks, we know a little about them. These four may or may not be accurate – and we have tried to report on them sensibly.

We have to say that Freddy Shepherd could have a real shot at winning this thing, and that’s good or bad – depending on your view of Shepherd – and from the comments we’ve already seen, it’s clear  some  Newcastle fans will be less than happy if Freddy becomes the new owner.

The Tyneside club will have trouble in trying to unload some of the high wage earners still under contact at the club, including Barton, Coloccini, Gutierrez, Xisco, Enrique and Nolan. Most of these will not be at pre-season training in two weeks time, and will be around until we can sell them – or should we say if we can sell them.

Bu we wait and hope – as usual – but with some greater expectation of good news - which is a pleasant change.

Comments welcome.



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105 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Phillippe Alberrrrrrrt // Jun 17, 2009 at 11:20 AM

    Story from nowhere Ed!! Nice!! Where you getting your info from? I would have thought that the Profitable group would be more likely than the mystery South African bid

  • 2 Pons Aelius // Jun 17, 2009 at 11:20 AM

    I don’t care who takes over any more, as long as they treat the Newcastle fans with respect and give us a squad we can be proud of.

  • 3 cjcox88 // Jun 17, 2009 at 11:26 AM

    I see no evidence of this I 100% hope your right ed! But I do not see this being right!

  • 4 Ericles // Jun 17, 2009 at 11:28 AM

    Understanable Pons Aelius – just so long as they new owners do not jabber jabber away in Lunnon lingo!

  • 5 Ed Harrison // Jun 17, 2009 at 11:29 AM

    Phillipe – all stories are out of nowhere – but I’ve clarified it – this news is from the Northern Echo and since we’ve covered most of these groups over the last 2 weeks, we know a little about them. Hey this may not be true – but if we waited until everything was proved true – there wouldn’t be a blog! We tried to list who it looks like the 4 groups are – and tried to report on it sensibly – and to us it seems Freddy Shepherd has a real shot at winning this thing. That’s good or bad – depending on your view of Shepherd.

  • 6 cicero // Jun 17, 2009 at 11:30 AM

    What is the source for naming these 4 consortium Ed?

  • 7 Stuart79 // Jun 17, 2009 at 11:31 AM

    Like I said on a previous thread Shearer has been told personally that there could be a significant announcement on Thurs.

    I have a fancy for Larry Ellison as the American. He’s known as a keen sports fan and was interested in buying Everton a while ago.

    Everton need £500m spent on them before you look at the team so we offer alot more value.

    Do you know of this guy Ed?

  • 8 Ed Harrison // Jun 17, 2009 at 11:42 AM

    I’ve updated the piece a little – saying where this story is from etc etc.

  • 9 Ed Harrison // Jun 17, 2009 at 11:44 AM

    Yes I know of Larry Ellison – founder of Oracle – IBM almost sued him in the early 1980s when he left IBM and took some IBM data base patents and secrets – or so the accusations go. He’s busy right now trying to get ready to win the Americas Cup in sailing – he’s a character and is well heeled.

  • 10 reetpetite // Jun 17, 2009 at 11:46 AM

    stuart79- Thats a load of rubbish regarding being better value than everton. They are in europe yet again and have a massive fan base along with being one of the most succesful teams in british history.

    Newcastle are losing millions each week on players wages they cant shift and they are missing out on the sky millions. If they do get promoted you will be starting off from scratch with probably a load of untried players at prem level or your same high earning players who werent good enough last time.

    Oh, and everton have a brilliant manager compared to your shearer who looked tactically inept in his games in charge.

  • 11 coyote // Jun 17, 2009 at 11:54 AM

    thought you might have been fronting the american bid ed – you living there and all

  • 12 sirjasontoon // Jun 17, 2009 at 11:55 AM

    @Cashola :)

    Agree re Shearer Benny I think that will be the worst Toon appointment in ages.

    Hopefully this Oman dude will have the funds to help us move forward and have the money for a proven manager.

  • 13 Stuart79 // Jun 17, 2009 at 11:58 AM

    reetpetite // Jun 17, 2009 at 11:46 AM

    You miss my point.

    Everton would cost about £200-250m to buy. They have a debt of approx £60 and have a new stadium to build at a minimum cost of £300m.

    So an investor would have spent half a billion before he knows it.

    Their in the Europa League. Everton made about £750k last year from Europe so it’s hardly a money spinner is.

    On the other side of the coin. You can buy NUFC for £100m have no debts to pay and have a ready made and paid for stadium worth £250m.

    Porvided adequate funds are provided and we get back in the PL our turnover will be more than Evertons without even finishing in the top 5!

    Long term investors are just that.

    Everton have Liverpool to compete with. That’s a big negative. Bit like Spurs really, you have Arsenal and Chelsea to compete with and that isn’t great.

    We compete with nobody for our fans.

  • 14 bettyswollocks // Jun 17, 2009 at 12:07 PM

    aye no need to get your nickers in a twist benny. I don’t believe stuart mentioned us being bigger, better or having a great manager (considering we don’t even have one).

  • 15 Macas35 // Jun 17, 2009 at 12:09 PM

    The whole point about Shearer is that he is the only man all four consortia are likely to agree on. If any of them don’t want Shearer in then we are in deep trouble, as it will take a few weeks to do the due diligence and we simply can’t afford any more delays. We must appoint Shearer and let him bring the players in, as he is a big name. if it doesn’t work out for Shearer I get the feeling he will walk away without demanding the rest of his wages, but we will still be left with a good squad. It has to be worth the gamble as we can’t afford to wait any longer before appointing a manager to sort this mess out. And if people are judging Shearer on 8 games with a poor team in the bottom three, then remember what happened with Alex Ferguson at Man United. We have to give him a chance, it’s far too early to say if he will be a good manager or not, and the pros certainly outweigh the cons.

  • 16 sirjasontoon // Jun 17, 2009 at 12:12 PM

    Disagree Macas I think it will be the final nail in the coffin if Shearer takes over now.

    Night Night Toon RIP

  • 17 sirjasontoon // Jun 17, 2009 at 12:14 PM

    I think Fat Fred/Local Consortium would be more skint than Fat Mike…please buy the Toon Mr Sultan and build our busted club.

  • 18 bettyswollocks // Jun 17, 2009 at 12:14 PM

    on the issue of shearer as manager I’m not sure why so many folk are against it. It’s not like the cream of managers are beating a path to our door. Dear god just been linked with curbishley is enough to convince me shearer’s the one.

    Seriously though you can’t judge him on those 8 games considering the rubbish that was served up before he even got here. All I know is he seems to be the popular choice of the players, we know he won’t take any crap, and he’ll get time from the fans.

    After all we’ve been through there’s no-one I’d trust more to sort this mess out. It’s a big job for a big man and we know he has the balls for it. Just hearing Damian Duff say it was nice to be part of a professionally run football club for 8 weeks makes you wonder what the hell was going on before. Shearer is a logical choice for me – for both the head and the heart!

  • 19 sirjasontoon // Jun 17, 2009 at 12:17 PM

    There are no Pro’s with Shearer just Con’s as we continue to recruit with our hearts and not our heads.

    Alan can manage us in the future, now is not the time for an unsackable inexperienced local hero we need EXPERIENCE.

  • 20 Macas35 // Jun 17, 2009 at 12:19 PM

    sirjasontoon – I know you don’t like the idea of Shearer as manager, but would you be happy waiting another 3 or 4 weeks to bring another manager in, and missing out on all the best players available?

  • 21 simon376@work // Jun 17, 2009 at 12:22 PM

    Here’s a point I put on another thread with regards to Shearer as manager

    We can use Shearer just like we did Keegan. To be honest, we were in a worse postion when Keegan first came in, on the brink of going into the old third and probs out of business. A bloke came in with no managment experience and kept us up on the last day. The following season we won the league. How?

    He employed good coaches and used the fact that lots of players looked up to him and wanted to sign for him. Can the same not be done with Shearer?

  • 22 bettyswollocks // Jun 17, 2009 at 12:27 PM

    sirjason – you’re right – exprience is critical. Guardiola just coached the first side in history to do the spanish treble and I’m sure he fell back on all his years of previous experience!

    I’m sorry mate but it’s easy to pass off the ‘local hero’ line but it’s got nothing to do with it for me. We need someone to unite the club and the only one to do that is shearer.

  • 23 Toon_Factor // Jun 17, 2009 at 12:29 PM

    I hate that! Why are we always away on the first and last day grrrrrrrrrr

  • 24 Geordiedoonsooth // Jun 17, 2009 at 12:34 PM

    sirjasontoon are you a spurs fan or worse a mackem? Shearer is the only person who can unite the toon just like Keegan did in the early 90′s he had no experience but I am Sheaer will bring some experienced coaches in & his name will attract good players to get us back up.

  • 25 Whumpie // Jun 17, 2009 at 12:34 PM

    SJT, you must be a riot at parties.

    I am just hoping that you’ll be happily accepting you were massively wrong about Shearer, when we’re into our 10th year with him in charge, once again heading for the semis in the Champs League and people are debating who’s better out of him and Ferguson…

    (Hey, let me dream, eh?)

  • 26 Rodzilla // Jun 17, 2009 at 12:34 PM

    Stuart, I’ve just done a bit of Columboing after your hunch on Larry Ellison and found out through this PDF….

    http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:itqBUEOds0EJ:www.salesforcemagazine.co.uk/files/coverstory%2520200806.pdf+Larry+Ellison+newcastle+united&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk

    ….that Andy Jaques of ‘Salesforce’ who Larry Ellison owns a large stake in, is a big NUFC fan (last paragraph in the PDF, as HTML file).

    This may well be a very tenuous link.

    :)

  • 27 cicero // Jun 17, 2009 at 12:35 PM

    I agree with you Bettyswollocks, Shearer is the only one who can unite the whole club and I think he is clever enough to recognise his short comings and surround himself with good coaches.

  • 28 sirjasontoon // Jun 17, 2009 at 12:38 PM

    Shearer will not be a good manager in my opinion.
    I didn’t really notice a flash of managerial genius during those 8 games to be honest and think he will struggle.

    I would bring in Venebles,Coppell,JK before him.

  • 29 simon376@work // Jun 17, 2009 at 12:40 PM

    Venebles or Coppell would no doubt do a good job, but JK??? Has to be one of the worst managers we have ever had. I would have Guilt back over him

  • 30 sirjasontoon // Jun 17, 2009 at 12:43 PM

    Geordiedoonsooth…So because I don’t agree with the general consensus I am a spurs fan or a mackem..go and boil your head mate.

    4ookin WALLSEND BONNY LAD.

  • 31 sirjasontoon // Jun 17, 2009 at 12:44 PM

    JK was tongue in cheek..still a close call with him and Shearer though just JK would be easier to sack when it goes Tits up.

  • 32 Toon_Factor // Jun 17, 2009 at 12:46 PM

    sirjasontoon

    Shearer will be able to persuade some players to stay and also attract better players than most other managers could.

  • 33 Nick 69 // Jun 17, 2009 at 12:47 PM

    i would pretty much gurantee that if one of our 3 strikers had of put away the numerous sitters they missed end of season, and we would have therefore stayed up. everybody who is doubting shearer would be shouting for him to be appointed just like the rest, even though the team performances would have been no better than they were, just tht we managed to score 1 more goal!

  • 34 bettyswollocks // Jun 17, 2009 at 12:48 PM

    Another plus with shearer is that he has already been in there for 8 weeks. He knows exactly what needs doing and seemingly he is already ready to move. If we bring anyone else in we lose those 2 months.

    And as already mentioned – who else is there who would realistically take it. Coppell wouldn;t. The only decent sized club he has been at is citeh and he ran a mile after about a month!

  • 35 sirjasontoon // Jun 17, 2009 at 12:50 PM

    Toon Factor…there is very few 1st teamers that deserve to stay so it’s hardly a big job the team needs a complete over haul.

    We need a new start and not some local hero and all his mates jumping on the ship like Rob Lee etc

  • 36 Stuart79 // Jun 17, 2009 at 12:53 PM

    sirjasontoon // Jun 17, 2009 at 12:50 PM

    Who would you appoint and would they guarentee any success?

  • 37 Rangerman // Jun 17, 2009 at 12:54 PM

    I wouldn’t care if Wearside Jack bought us as long as he’s got his own money to put into the club for transfers.

  • 38 cicero // Jun 17, 2009 at 12:55 PM

    Sirjasontoon, if you wouldn’t have Shearer as manager because of a lack of “managerial genius” then why on earth would you even mention Joke Inear. The man was a disaster no tactics, prehistoric training, a laughing stock in the press, a team in almost open revolt. Give me a break.

  • 39 Toon_Factor // Jun 17, 2009 at 12:55 PM

    sirjasontoon

    I was thinking along the lines of Bassong, Martins, Beye etc and plus we are in a much easier league so …………

  • 40 bettyswollocks // Jun 17, 2009 at 12:56 PM

    sirjason: ‘it’s hardly a big job the team needs a complete over haul.’

    a contradiction in terms is it not?

  • 41 sirjasontoon // Jun 17, 2009 at 12:56 PM

    I would have went for Martinez.
    I just don’t want Shearer as manager I just have a feeling it will go horribly wrong..like I did on here 18 months ago regarding Mike Ashley.

  • 42 Nick 69 // Jun 17, 2009 at 12:58 PM

    the fact that all the players came out and said the club was being run like a proper football club when shearer came in, even thought JK was still in affect the manager, says a lot to me about who is best suited for the job! steven taylor was even quoted as saying when shearer came in he put heart monitors on the players during training, and it proved that they were well out of shape, as they obviously hadn’t trained properly for a long time

  • 43 Stuart79 // Jun 17, 2009 at 12:58 PM

    sirjasontoon // Jun 17, 2009 at 12:56 PM

    I would have went for Martinez.
    I just don’t want Shearer as manager I just have a feeling it will go horribly wrong..like I did on here 18 months ago regarding Mike Ashley.

    Bloody hell man!

    A blind man on a galloping horse could see we were ganning off the end of a cliff under Ashley!

  • 44 Rangerman // Jun 17, 2009 at 12:59 PM

    I just don’t want Shearer as manager I just have a feeling it will go horribly wrong..like I did on here 18 months ago regarding Mike Ashley.

    ……

    You think you’ve got a sixth sense for this type of thing do you, SJT?

  • 45 sirjasontoon // Jun 17, 2009 at 1:00 PM

    Well spotted…what I meant to say was there is hardly many first teamers that will be staying that will need convincing so he won’t need to convince many people to stay.

    There is time to buy players and someone with that transfer experience would do it alot quicker than Alan.

  • 46 Rangerman // Jun 17, 2009 at 1:03 PM

    There is time to buy players and someone with that transfer experience would do it alot quicker than Alan.

    ………

    Surely the chairman is the one responsible for doing the deals so I don’t see what managerial experience has to do with that.

  • 47 CJ // Jun 17, 2009 at 1:07 PM

    “Barton, Coloccini, Gutierrez, Xisco, Enrique and Nolan. Most of these will not be at pre-season training in two weeks time”

    Why not? They cost us a fortune and should be match fit as soon as possible
    1. Will help to get them sold
    2. If not sold they’ll be fit to help get us out of the mess they put us into.

    If they don’t show for training I’d sack them for breach of contract.

    Ellison from Oracle, Paul Allen Microsoft, and Michael Dell from Dell are highlighted as potential interested parties in August last year. Strong connections between all 3…….maybe the American Consortium?

  • 48 magforlife // Jun 17, 2009 at 1:08 PM

    Guardiola at Barcelona had no managerial experience when he took over but he was Barca through and through and look at what he has achieved. I do believe that passion and understanding the club and fans heavily out weighs experience, we have been down that road with Allerdyce, Souness etc and failed, some managers are only ever any good at their own club hence the long list of failures when they move on, got to be Shearer, its what the majority want so go for it.

  • 49 Stuart79 // Jun 17, 2009 at 1:11 PM

    CJ // Jun 17, 2009 at 1:07 PM

    If all them are in the consortium we would be the richest club in the world!

    So can’t really see it, as were just not that lucky…

  • 50 sirjasontoon // Jun 17, 2009 at 1:14 PM

    I wouldn’t say Sixth Sense maybe you have been watching too many 12 rated movies rangerman.
    I also notice that you often pick fault with almost all the bloggers comments that is why I have ignored you until now.

    Blog=Opinion and everyone is different.

  • 51 Elfy_Toon // Jun 17, 2009 at 1:15 PM

    why is every1 jumpin on the bandwagon and attacking SJT lol its only his opinion like? does it really matter or make a difference? why not leave him alone and just respect his opinion?

    CJ gd shout on those 3 being the american consortium, would b gr8 if it turned out to b right aswell!

    would love shearer as manager, could see him doing well, not amazing, but certainyl providing stability and possibly europe in the future.

  • 52 JJJ // Jun 17, 2009 at 1:16 PM

    “sirjasontoon // Jun 17, 2009 at 12:38 PM

    Shearer will not be a good manager in my opinion.
    I didn’t really notice a flash of managerial genius during those 8 games to be honest and think he will struggle.

    I would bring in Venebles,Coppell,JK before him.”

    See this amazes me? Venebles who hasnt coached in decades, Coppell who at the start of 2008 Reading where odds on favourite to gain promotion with the best team in the championship and he couldnt do anything in the league and they were outclassed in the playoffs, and JK who cant even garauntee two months of stability with his health and resigns the likes of AMEOBI as his main target man!!!!

    Please pull the other one…

    Shearer wouldnt be my first choice but he’d be above any of those three!

  • 53 Big Dave // Jun 17, 2009 at 1:20 PM

    SJT I know I have spoke to you before regarding big Al and I respect your opinion, but do you not agree that stability at the start is the most important thing. my view is get big Al in stabilize the club and if AS cant take us that final furlong then we will be in a better position to get a TOP manager in, and the supporters would then have realized that AS couldnt take us any further and would except it ??

  • 54 cicero // Jun 17, 2009 at 1:21 PM

    Chronicle are reporting neither Profitable Group nor Fat Freddie have proven they have the £100m

  • 55 sirjasontoon // Jun 17, 2009 at 1:21 PM

    Cheers Elfy :)

    I rate JK and Venebles that badly I would have either of them over Shearer..that is my opinion.

    I just see it being a disaster under him,don’t get me wrong I loved him/worshipped him as a player I just don’t see it working out for us with him this season coming.

    In a few years time maybe.

  • 56 Elfy_Toon // Jun 17, 2009 at 1:22 PM

    jjj reading might have been odds on favourites but they certianly didnt hav the best team! agreed about jk and venables tho, altho i wouldn mind keepin jk on as an advisor or sumthing. incidently who is ur first choice jjj?

  • 57 Elfy_Toon // Jun 17, 2009 at 1:24 PM

    np SJT
    i can see sjt logic here as how many gr8 players turn out to be gr8 managers? dont get me wrong i do want shearer as manager cos i reckon he’ll do the job but its easy to see where sjt is comin from.

  • 58 Big Dave // Jun 17, 2009 at 1:26 PM

    Just to add I think there is no better time for big Al to take over the reins and i do believe he can do it as Dowie has experience as doe’s Carver who i believe will come in with him.The only managers that where good in my opinion all had close ties to us

  • 59 sirjasontoon // Jun 17, 2009 at 1:26 PM

    BigDave
    I agree we may find some Stability and I know it’s needed right now…I will not be devastated if we do appoint Alan In just think we should look around and see who else maybe upto the challenge.

    I am not Anti Shearer…just prefer us to stop,think,shop around and quit being guided by our hearts.

  • 60 SBR4EVA // Jun 17, 2009 at 1:28 PM

    God save our gracious Toon,
    Long live our noble Toon,
    God save the Toon.

    Send Ashley straight to Hell,
    Derek Lamearse as well,
    Please hurry up and f…ing Sell,
    God save the Toon.

  • 61 sirjasontoon // Jun 17, 2009 at 1:28 PM

    Anyways got to do a bit of graft now,catch up later
    :)

  • 62 Hugh Jorgan // Jun 17, 2009 at 1:29 PM

    Sultan Qaboos of Oman is my preferred choice,
    he would bankroll the club.
    He is certainly no idiot either.
    http://francis-rossi.mybrute.com

  • 63 lesh // Jun 17, 2009 at 1:30 PM

    Agree 100% with Elfy_Toon // Jun 17, 2009 at 1:15 PM and “why is every1 jumpin on the bandwagon and attacking SJT…. ”

    Where’s Stardust (aka Narcissus)? Could he still be gazing lovingly at his image in the shaving mirror??

  • 64 Toon_Factor // Jun 17, 2009 at 1:30 PM

    Hugh Jorgan

    your one hell of a sad person! nobody likes that game!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 65 Stardust // Jun 17, 2009 at 1:34 PM

    “Big Dave // Jun 17, 2009 at 1:20 PM

    SJT I know I have spoke to you before regarding big Al and I respect your opinion, but do you not agree that stability”

    Aprreciate your thoughts Dave – but the stability Shearer brings is as stable as Nitro Glycerine – fine if things are going smoothly, and short term a safe pair of hands – no doubt about it.

    Imagine a new investor placing their 100m and having to sack Shearer – It would be Ashley all over again (hopefully with communication though this time lol)

    I like Alan – I think he found brilliant words on relegation under immense scrutiny – a leader no doubt.

    But I still could not begin to tell you what Shearers style of play would be? I will take the positives if he is appointed and not criticise if it goes wrong, and I will take the positives if he isnt.

  • 66 simon376@work // Jun 17, 2009 at 1:34 PM

    Somebody made the point earlier that managers often do a good job with their hometown club or one they played for, for years but then go downhill when they move on. Been thinking about that and could be a good point. Not saying that these guys failed after moving but, Joe Harvey played for us then actualy won things as manager. Keegan played and did wonders as manager, Sir Bob, may not have played here, but a local lad and a fan, did a great job as manager. And lets face it, no mater how many big names we have had from the time of Joe Harvey, who apart from these 3 have done any better?

    And another, Roder, may not have been the best manager here, but after playing, came back and was a good coach and the last manager to get us into Europe.

  • 67 Big Dave // Jun 17, 2009 at 1:37 PM

    SJT I know you are not Anti Shearer mate and i understand were your coming from. I guess sometimes i follow my heart. catch you later

  • 68 Stuart79 // Jun 17, 2009 at 1:41 PM

    It might as well be Shearer. We’ve tried every other bugger.

    It coul be tricky for the owners to sack him but it’s their choice whether they appoint him or not. I’m sure they know the risks.

    Who else would be mad enough to take the job now?

    At least we know he wants it.

    There is the other angle also. Shearer’s shadow will be hanging over every manager we ever have until he gets his chance.

    Give him his chance, if it works great, if not well at least we’ll know.

  • 69 Elfy_Toon // Jun 17, 2009 at 1:42 PM

    simon376, gd shout, our best managers have been local lads or ex players. im not saying shearer will be amazing, but if hes anything to follow precedent then mayb he could b our next gr8 manager.

  • 70 simon376@work // Jun 17, 2009 at 1:44 PM

    Lets hope so Elfy. I just hope we can go for a period of at least 5 – 6 years with the same man in charge, even if it’s Not Shearer, at least if we can do that, it should mean onwards and upwards

  • 71 Macas35 // Jun 17, 2009 at 1:44 PM

    Having to sack Shearer wouldn’t be a problem, as it would mean results weren’t going to plan. The fans aren’t totally daft, if it didn’t work out we would appreciate he tried his best.

  • 72 Big Dave // Jun 17, 2009 at 1:45 PM

    Stardust I have said several times that While AS is still alive and until he has been given the chance our fans wont give anyone else the time needed. I believe if he is given the chance and cant get us back into europe in the next 4 -5 years the supporters would then go for another manager and support whoever that maybe. ?

  • 73 SBR4EVA // Jun 17, 2009 at 1:49 PM

    Totally agree with you Simon.

    Nobody can be more aware of the the job in hand more or know this club any better than Shearer, except perhaps Sir Bobby himself.

  • 74 bettyswollocks // Jun 17, 2009 at 1:52 PM

    Stardust // Jun 17, 2009 at 1:34 PM

    that’s a bit over-simplified. If shearer had a fair crack and results didn’t go well I don’t think there would be any uproar. Then only difference is shearer would probably get slightly less stick leading up to a potential sacking.

    What happened with keegan was a totally different thing.

  • 75 GHUD // Jun 17, 2009 at 1:56 PM

    As time is running out and shearer has already met all the players and knows who needs to go and who needs to step up from the reserve s half the job is done he will aready know who he wants to bring in and will probably have spoke to the players he wants, so he should be given a go to see what he can do with a team he wants not a team of overpaid wasters. as for experience im shure he will surround himself with expienced people he wants this club to do well as much as us .bring on west brom!!!

  • 76 antz1uk // Jun 17, 2009 at 1:57 PM

    rodzilla if your still about….

    re this link..

    “http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:itqBUEOds0EJ:www.salesforcemagazine.co.uk/files/coverstory%2520200806.pdf+Larry+Ellison+newcastle+united&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk”

    i cant find anything on there relating to newcastle utd

  • 77 Stardust // Jun 17, 2009 at 2:03 PM

    “Big Dave // Jun 17, 2009 at 1:45 PM

    Stardust I have said several times that While AS is still alive and until he has been given the chance our fans wont give anyone else the time needed”

    Totally agree Dave – but some of the investors will have recognised that too – they may choose to take the fans head on and actually manage the club again – I honestly believe the next management needs to try to instil a sense of reality again.

    Shearer may end up being the fall guy for that.

    Thats not a personal view its just a view some might take.

  • 78 JJJ // Jun 17, 2009 at 2:07 PM

    JJJ

    My choices would be one of:

    Gordon Strachan, Owen Coyle, George Burley.

    Perhaps, depending on the owners, we could attract, Sven-Goran Eriksson.

  • 79 JJJ // Jun 17, 2009 at 2:09 PM

    Although I have no qualms about giving Shearer a fair chance…

  • 80 Toon Graeme // Jun 17, 2009 at 2:10 PM

    Afternoon lads,

    Right that one thing sorted – the fixtures.

    SKY has two Championship matches pencilled in for live on the 8th & 9th of August at 1pm – Im more than convinced we will be live on the tele.

    Next thing – sale
    After that – manager

    Im fingers crossed that news will come out of London soon.

    Gonna take a miracle to be at the reading match – long story but hope to do it – even if I pull a sickie!!

  • 81 Phillippe Alberrrrrrrt // Jun 17, 2009 at 2:14 PM

    So four HAVE entered into due dillegence but not that doesn’t include Fat Fred or Profitable….yet!
    Hmmm I’d love to know who it is, I’d love to work for Seymour Pierce and get an inside scoop

  • 82 Pons Aelius // Jun 17, 2009 at 2:15 PM

    Shearer all the way for me like.

    Shearer cares about the club personally and has stated that’s what he wants in his players.

    That’s why I want Shearer. We need the fight back in this club and he will provide that, if appointed.

  • 83 Mag 48 // Jun 17, 2009 at 2:29 PM

    Why don’t they say yes to the four consortia.That would be £100m for Ashley and the rest for the toon.With the added bonus of lots of directors to watch “Freddie” lol

  • 84 Doocey // Jun 17, 2009 at 2:33 PM

    Tough Tough start lads.
    Never thought I’d witness the day when I think we couldn’t get a harder opener then at West Brom :O

    I think that Profitble Group are more likely then them South African’s too.!

  • 85 DJG // Jun 17, 2009 at 2:35 PM

    ”We’ll point out that the Profitable Group from Singapore didn’t appear to make it, and presumably couldn’t produce proof they had the £100M funds. There had been some significant skepticism last week they had insufficient funds to buy the Tyneside club.”

    Haha, Thank god Kenny Dog leash is not in the running. Hopefully Shepard won’t get in either. The last thing we need right now is a return to his incompetence.

  • 86 Big Dave // Jun 17, 2009 at 2:36 PM

    Mag 48 nice one lol

  • 87 Whumpie // Jun 17, 2009 at 2:37 PM

    Right now, I think we desperately need all the qualities Shearer brings, i.e.

    – Charisma, respectability and profile to attract good players
    – No-nonsense approach
    – Loyalty from fans, players and the industry
    – A good contacts book (e.g. Sir Bobby’s mobile number!)
    – No qualms about working in the fizzy league
    – An in-depth knowledge of the club, culture and current problems, based on over a decade of inside experience in a number of roles
    – Total dedication to this club and no other

    The lack of experience is made up for by his contacts, and for me he showed during his 8 games that he was fundamentally the right kind of person – basically a Geordie Ferguson – to get us where we need to be.

    I think other championship clubs – and a lot of premiership ones – would kill for someone with those qualities. There are gaps, but you can buy fillers for those. You can’t buy the things I’ve listed above.

    Get Wor Al in ASAP. Don’t expect miracles. Let the Shearer Era begin.

  • 88 Mag 48 // Jun 17, 2009 at 2:44 PM

    Whumpie
    Good post agree totally!!

  • 89 madman67 // Jun 17, 2009 at 2:44 PM

    NEWCASTLE UNITED

    August

    8 West Brom (A)

    15 Reading (H)

    19 Sheff Wed (H)

    22 Crystal Palace (A)

    29 Leicester (H)

    September

    12 Cardiff (A)

    15 Blackpool (A)

    19 Plymouth (H)

    26 Ipswich (A)

    30 QPR (H)

    October

    3 Bristol City (H)

    17 Nottm Forest (A)

    20 Scunthorpe (A)

    24 Doncaster (H)

    31 Sheff Utd (A)

    November

    7 Peterborough (H)

    21 Preston (A)

    28 Swansea (H)

    December

    5 Watford (H)

    8 Coventry (A)

    12 Barnsley (A)

    19 Middlesbrough (H)

    26 Sheff Wed (A)

    28 Derby (H)

    January

    9 Reading (A)

    16 West Brom (H)

    27 Crystal Palace (H)

    30 Leicester (A)

    February

    6 Cardiff (H)

    9 Derby (A)

    13 Swansea (A)

    17 Coventry (H)

    20 Preston (H)

    27 Watford (A)

    March

    6 Barnsley (H)

    13 Middlesbrough (A)

    17 Scunthorpe (H)

    20 Bristol City (A)

    23 Doncaster (A)

    27 Nottm Forest (H)

    April

    3 Peterborough (A)

    5 Sheff Utd (H)

    10 Blackpool (H)

    17 Plymouth (A)

    24 Ipswich (H)

    May

    2 QPR (A)

  • 90 Big Dave // Jun 17, 2009 at 2:47 PM

    Whumpie just 1 thing you left out mate which i think is the most important thing at this moment in time STABILITY

  • 91 Stayloyal // Jun 17, 2009 at 2:50 PM

    For all you people against appointing Alan Shearer as manager, You are exactly the type of people who got us into this mess in the first place. Demanding instant success!!!

    Because we have such a fan base we seem too think we automatically have the right to demand top 4 finishes year in year out (Fact). I agree like most people our fans deserve butter but Rome wasn’t built in a day!!

    We’ve seen manager after manager not given time to gel a team together never mind stabilise our club. Alan Shearer is the only man at this moment in time who the fans will give time, to do what needs to be done at this football club.

    ok, he isn’t proven as a manager at any level but look at the guy’s we have had that were( Robson, Daglish and so on).

    The way I see it is, do we go round in circles appointing who ever we think the inform manager is at the time or do we give shearer his chance which in my opinion he deserves after the loyalty he has given to this club. The man bleeds black and white and there is no one I’d rather trust more at this moment in time to re-build the image of this football club after the damage left from MA.

    Not only can the man instantly command respect when he enters a dressing room, he will be able to attract players too our club for all the right reasons so we no longer have to pay players huge sums of money to come up here. HE showed he isn,t affraid to drop players with a big reputation if they aren’t doing it (Owen, Nolan, Colo etc) an big decisions are nn’t behond him.

    Shearer is honest and loyal. He will communicate more with the fans than we are used to and it may not happen over night but we’ll get there if we all stand together as a club. Being devided now whoever gets the job wont take us forward and back into the PL.

    So for all you so called fans out there who call themselves true fans, ask yourself this.

    If you can turn your back on Alan Shearer!! Who wont you turn your back on?

  • 92 madman67 // Jun 17, 2009 at 2:51 PM

    wtf is going on? thats twice ive pasted our fixture list up and nowts happened. apologies if its posted twice peeps.

    well lets hope this sale is concluded soon, we appt a manager, sort out the players we want out of the club, then get sum quality in …

    thats quitte alot of graft innit. no time to waste imo.

  • 93 WELSHMAG // Jun 17, 2009 at 2:53 PM

    Whumpie, spot on mate, that’s how I feel. If Al feels out of his depth or he needs some advice from somewheren he’d be seconds away from having it from some of the most experienced people there is. He’s respected big time, and that’s whats needed. Young players would LOVE to play for shearer! he’s as big as they come.

  • 94 Mag 48 // Jun 17, 2009 at 2:55 PM

    If Shearer does indeed get the job I hope he is given the time. Stability takes time and patients.Im afraid there are to many that don’t seem to have either.

  • 95 Chinzaknuk // Jun 17, 2009 at 2:55 PM

    Does anyone know anything about Jack Wilshire from Arsenal??
    I live in London and overheard a group of lads talking and one of them said that he is going on loan to Newcastle next season.
    I’ve no idea if this is true, but it was just the complete randomness of it that made me think there could be something in it.

  • 96 Big Dave // Jun 17, 2009 at 3:00 PM

    Chinzaknuk i heard that about 2 weeks ago but nothing more from then

  • 97 Stardust // Jun 17, 2009 at 3:01 PM

    madman67 – fixture lists are copyrighted – I assume Ed has blocked your post deliberately or he might be in trouble.

  • 98 Johno Toon // Jun 17, 2009 at 3:02 PM

    Must laugh at the whole Shearer has no experiance line , he has played professional football for how long? Now im not saying its the same as been a manager but its not like the local mcdonalds manager who would have no idea of how a day to day football club runs is taking over!

  • 99 Mag 48 // Jun 17, 2009 at 3:09 PM

    If the Sultan of Oman does buy the toon do you think he will come to matches in “That” uniform or wear a toon shirt and down pints?

  • 100 madman67 // Jun 17, 2009 at 3:16 PM

    mag48 lol good poitn mate lol

  • 101 Solaidback // Jun 17, 2009 at 3:26 PM

    I’m a little confused about this post Ed, you see I’ve read what they’ve posted in the Journal & they’re saying that Freddy Sheppard ISN’T one of the 4, as he & the Profitable Group haven’t as of this morning proved they have the £100m+ funds to buy the TOON, so I don’t know why the Echo is saying they are, also, they’re saying the 4 potential buyers have signed a non-disclosure document, so how would anyone, including the Echo, Journal & NOTW know who these people are unless they’ve broken said agreement??

    I’m not saying what you’ve posted isn’t correct, what I’m saying is, that the information you’ve gained from said Echo is possible incorrect & that they only posted it to sell papers & not to give us, the TOONs loyals fan, the real facts as to who these 4 potential buyers are!!

  • 102 Wigaz // Jun 17, 2009 at 4:17 PM

    Whumpie & stayloyal just hit the nail on the head! Cant belive some people’s pure idiocy! “We dont want shearer” as it’s been said the pull he’ll have in the transfer market that he has & the pure passion for the club should be enough for anyone! Look at the last 2 managers who had that kind of passion for the club Sir Bobby & KK… not bad company to keep their like. All this experienced bollocks is just that, Souness, big sam, Dalglish all shite! Remember a certain Arsene wenger who came from Japanese football & everybody laughed & thought who’s this guy? no experience! Didn’t do bad did he? & fergie had a mare during his first few games at Man Utd & he’s turned out to be the best manager in the modern game! Now yes shearer has no experience but the way he conducted himself during the 8 weeks of mission impossible is enough for me to show he deserves the chance. Lets reserve judgement until we see him working with his own team & without both hands tied behind his back by the joke that is the cockney mafia! Lets just hope after all this Ed that the announcement comes tomorrow & it IS GOOD NEWS!

  • 103 AndyT // Jun 17, 2009 at 8:15 PM

    Whumpie, Stayloyal, Wigaz…great points! You just have to get behind Shearer right now, especially as it seems all the more evident that he’ll be the manager this season.

  • 104 petethegeordie // Jun 18, 2009 at 4:57 AM

    The bottom line is that Alan needs a chance to prove himself. The passion is there and he got a taste of management in the premier league and he wants to be there. This is a tough season for us as all the these championship clubs are gonna look at playing us like a cup final every week.

    My vote is for Sultan Qaboos Bin Said Al-Said to buy us – this dude is as richer than the Queen

  • 105 chuck // Jun 18, 2009 at 4:30 PM

    Truth is no one can say for sure what kind of manager Shearer will make, it`s pure speculation.
    Sure he has some positives to bring to the table,
    local hero, well known, ermmmm, ahhhhh,well he scored a lot of goals and ermmm ahhh, could be the next messiah and thats what we really want, well is`nt it ?
    What does his record show, not much, one win in eight games some against mediocre opposition, with the clubs future at stake, not exactly messiah stuff eh!
    But hey I forgot he`s a local lad, not one of those cockney barra boy w*nkers and he will bleed black and white i have been informed .
    Well folks lets hope the messianic crowd are right and he brings a degree of success to the club, because looking back since Sir bobby got axed it`s been painfull.




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