Newcastle Make It Difficult For Players Both Coming And Going

It seems that the way Ashley is running the Tyneside club right now, it is difficult for players  both trying to leave the club as well as those wanting to come in.

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Mike Ashley – current owner at a deteriorating Newcastle club

That’s because, as we heard from Coloccini’s agent today, Newcastle have not even talked to him about if Fabricio is even to be sold, or what fee they are placing on the Argentine.

And it’s just as hard for players who may be interested in joining Newcastle, and we’re sure we have missed out on a number of players already, because of the mess at the club since we were relegated. Getting relegated was bad enough, but this is now getting beyond a joke.

One agent told the Evening Chronicle today:

“The difficulty everyone is finding is ‘Who do you speak to?’,” “There doesn’t seem to be anyone to speak to about putting players into the club. There aren’t any decisions being made, so they are going to lose out.”

“I have a player who wasn’t getting a game at his previous club, a Premier League club.” “I was told Newcastle could be interested. He’s a goalscoring striker who would have done well for them, especially in the Championship.”

“But they missed out because who do I talk to? He’s joined a different club now. That’s the problem. Who’s in charge?” “Re-negotiating the contracts of players who are already there, and who they want to keep, is not a problem. It’s getting players in where it falls down.”

“Evidently, they’re looking to sell players first. They need to slash the wage bill big-time, and lose the big-earners, so that knocks things back a stage as well.” “Unless things are resolved quickly they will miss out. There are players they could get in but how long do these people wait around for?”

“I speak to people at the club all the time, I’ve recommend players to scouts Lil Fucillo and Jeff Vetere in the past. I’ve given them names but then there’s nothing they can do now.” “Is Alan Shearer there? Is Iain Dowie? Is Joe Kinnear?”

“If you get hold of Alan and recommend a player, he still might not get the job. Then someone else comes in and might not like the player you’ve recommended. It makes it harder for us, as agents.” “So you almost don’t bother, what’s the point?”

“All Alan can do at the moment is say to players ‘If I get the job, I’m interested in you. Hold on.’ But for how long? Some clubs start their pre-season training in the next week or so, and business will start picking up from then on.”

“That’s when players start thinking about where they’re going to be but all they can think about Newcastle United is ‘What’s going on?’ As an agent, I have to think about my clients’ best interests and make sure they are sorted out and happy.”

“With no date set for any proposed takeover, then any manager being in place, everything is still up in the air. Newcastle could go into the new season with pretty much the same squad they have now.” “Since they were relegated, I am talking to them about a different calibre of player. In the Premier League they’re a big club spending a lot of money on transfer fees and wages.

“Relegation changes everything for them. They’re still a big club but having played in the Premier League a lot of players don’t want to drop down to the Championship. They’re just not prepared to do it.”
“So they’re not going to be able to attract top players and certainly not internationals.”

“If Alan Shearer is appointed manager and if he can convince players the club has a good chance of promotion at the first attempt, they’ve got a chance. But these are big ‘ifs’ and ‘buts’. “It’s a nightmare scenario.”

The Newcastle club is now at their lowest ebb for many a season, and it’s not that we’ve been relegated, but we’ve done very little for 5 weeks to prepare for next season – and absolutely nothing at all as far as players coming or going.

And things must improve quickly, if we are not going to do a free-fall, which is very possible as Leeds United showed, once they were relegated from the Premier League in 2004 – and Malcolm Macdonald warned the fans about last Wednesday.

He was at Fulham when a similar thing happened way back, so he’s been through it himself, and that’s what happens when a football is out of control.

If we don’t get our act together quickly, and get Ashley out – even more quickly – we could be in serious serious trouble.

And that’s the uncomfortable  truth.

Comments welcome.

58 comments so far

  • RyanToon

    Jun 26, 2009 at 3:34 PM

    Comment #1

    wonder who the player was

  • OHurley

    Jun 26, 2009 at 3:43 PM

    Comment #2

    There once was a striker named Owen.
    We thought the defense he’d be mowin’
    But he was an @$$ and his legs, they were glass
    Now we’re happy to see that he’s goin’.

  • ObaFan2

    Jun 26, 2009 at 3:47 PM

    Comment #3

    This is definately turning into our worst nightmare! I thought a certain company were employed to deal with the players being sold and bought while we’re in this transitional period but obviously they are not or have their hands tied and unable to do much if anything.

    Having the chance of clearing the decks and starting afresh seems like a pipe dream now and this owner is continuing to destroy this club with his pathetic attempt at running a football club.

    Messing the players around, potential manager (s) and the fans is going to have a detrimental effect on this club and could set us back years.

    Is this the owners intention, well being patient is one thing but being taken for a ride is another.

  • Ericles

    Jun 26, 2009 at 3:48 PM

    Comment #4

    It seems as though Ashley is sailing us down the Tyne, round the corner, and up the coast to the Blyth knackers yard. Things cannot get worse surely? At this rate Ashley will be the second bully boy peer dubbed an enterprise csar. History has lessons – the last czar got shot!

  • ginkoh

    Jun 26, 2009 at 3:49 PM

    Comment #5

    I wonder if someone still support Mike Ashley now after his unprofessional, unrespect and shame behavior.

    1 thing he deserved from us is HATE. and I hate you Mike.

  • Shot Bru

    Jun 26, 2009 at 3:51 PM

    Comment #6

    This whole scenario is just insane!! The players will go on strike next.

  • AndyT

    Jun 26, 2009 at 3:57 PM

    Comment #7

    This is getting out of control. Wait to see only the kids show up for training on Wednesday. I really want to beat Mike Ashley within an inch of his life so that he’ll be eating through a tube for the rest of his life and can’t use his legs and arms. There’s one person in the world I wish that upon, and that’s him!

  • Big Dave

    Jun 26, 2009 at 3:58 PM

    Comment #8

    Shot Bru @ 6 I think most off them were on strike last season ? I think this could be Ma’s parting gift to do as much damage as he can.

  • chuck

    Jun 26, 2009 at 3:59 PM

    Comment #9

    Yeah Ed. we know (preaching to the choir) it just beggars belief, how can a man run a multi million pound empire and be so lame when it comes to a football club.
    I wonder if it`s his way of giving us a final screwing before he jumps ship.
    Looking at it from a different prospective, he did clear a lot of debt plus took a financial hit that he will never forget.

  • Partizan

    Jun 26, 2009 at 4:06 PM

    Comment #10

    Does anyone remember the blonde Argentinian Maxi Lopez from Barcelona…..i’m only wondering if he could be available on loan.

  • Whumpie

    Jun 26, 2009 at 4:09 PM

    Comment #11

    Oh, come on!!

    Ed – this is just getting ridiculous!

    I love this blog, but recently all you do is take someone else’s article, whatever it’s based upon, and then use it as a way to re-write the same stuff about how bad Ashley is.

    This is a new low: taking the words of an agent – AN AGENT, who is stating the bleedin’ obvious when you read it, and no doubt has his own agenda to play to – and just repeating the same “isn’t Ashley a cock” stuff!

    The headline gave me hope of at least some analysis – but nope, it’s the same stuff from the past month, recycled under a different header.

  • Shot Bru

    Jun 26, 2009 at 4:12 PM

    Comment #12

    Ryantoon @#1 maybe Matt Derbyshire.

  • woodsee

    Jun 26, 2009 at 4:13 PM

    Comment #13

    There once was a fat man called Mike,
    Who bought a club we all like.
    A disaster its been,
    And he s never seen,
    So tubby get on your bike.

  • Whumpie

    Jun 26, 2009 at 4:14 PM

    Comment #14

    Mad idea: how about discussing how the situation APPEARS TO be making it difficult to players in and out? I’ll have a crack…

    We’ve heard nothing of any deals being blocked, or target players going elsewhere. That would suggest deals are being lined up but waiting for the club to be sold before ink goes on paper.

    On the other hand, we hear about people like Edgar shipping out. But is that because he wants 1st-team football, or because he’s been kept uninformed?

    We’ve also heard the odd potential recruit say how much they’d like to come here. And we’ve yet to hear of any targets going elsewhere ‘because they got fed up of waiting for Newcastle to sort themselves out’.

    So my guess is still this: It’s all happening; we’re just not allowed to know about it until the deal is done.

    In the mean time, the press and internet (including this site) are filling the void with panic, mad theories and sabre-rattling bs, and the fans are buying it.

    Look, fellas – it’s embarrassing enough wearing Toon colours at the moment without this.

  • RyanToon

    Jun 26, 2009 at 4:15 PM

    Comment #15

    shot bru

    it said that he moved to a prem team instead, derbyshire left for greece mate

  • Big Dave

    Jun 26, 2009 at 4:16 PM

    Comment #16

    Whumpie to be fair mate what else can he write about ?

  • woodsee

    Jun 26, 2009 at 4:16 PM

    Comment #17

    Its desperate times when im resorting to limericks for amusement.

  • Rangerman

    Jun 26, 2009 at 4:21 PM

    Comment #18

    The hold up is the new lot buying the club not Ashley selling it.

    If anything get on the buyers back for taking too long.

  • toonoholic

    Jun 26, 2009 at 4:21 PM

    Comment #19

    the striker might be marlon harewood lol. dint he move ?

  • woodsee

    Jun 26, 2009 at 4:25 PM

    Comment #20

    A billionaire sportshop magnate,
    Apparently said to his mate,
    Im gonna buy the toon,
    And then send them doon,
    Cos i ve heard cockneys they hate.

  • Shot Bru

    Jun 26, 2009 at 4:27 PM

    Comment #21

    Ryan the quote only mentions him moving to a different club, anyhow he’s gone now so it doesn’t matter i guess 🙂

  • Wigaz

    Jun 26, 2009 at 4:31 PM

    Comment #22

    Ed i’m not surprised that the meeting was bull. Most of these stories are. I can see hughton taking training on wed & possibly even as far as starting the season in charge. As much as i want new owners & Big Al as boss I have been thinking a little bit about it, lets say that all the players still on contracts are there & hughton is in charge for maybe first couple of games will this team not beat most in championship.


    I think it would myself. Even if those players did want away they would still have to perform to show clubs looking at em what they could do. If this whole S**Tstorm carries on past transfer window then their all at NUFC until January at least & by that time we could well on course for promotion. Just to try to put a positive spin on it like.

  • Whumpie

    Jun 26, 2009 at 4:33 PM

    Comment #23

    Big Dave: The title of the article, for a start.

  • Zangwill_Ho

    Jun 26, 2009 at 4:43 PM

    Comment #24

    a problem will be solved finally, just wait, we cannot do anything.

  • woodsee

    Jun 26, 2009 at 4:43 PM

    Comment #25

    A small endowed man called Mike,
    Bought a massive club out of spite.
    He tried to act like a man,
    By drinking with the fans,
    Whilst secretly crying at night.

  • Whumpie

    Jun 26, 2009 at 4:44 PM

    Comment #26

    Wigaz – if we still have those players when the season begins, and no new owner, then the club will be wound up anyway, because it will be insolvent. Unless Ashley says he’s prepared to sub the club by £40m per year, which he isn’t.

    Nope, I think the club will be sold, but the negotiations will go on for ages due to all the wee nasties in that data room. We’ll then just have to do our best with what little prep time remains.

    I also think Taylor and perhaps Beye will wait around to find out what is going on, and that Big Al will eventually agree to terms with the new owners. Contrary to Ed’s rantings, I don’t think the blocker on his signature is Ashley; it’s Shearer, and I don’t blame him.

    On the other hand, all of this could be resolved by Wednesday; who knows? It’s a real can-0-worms, that data room, and it won’t be sorted quickly.

  • lesh

    Jun 26, 2009 at 4:44 PM

    Comment #27

    C’mon Whumpie, I’m sure Ed hears waht your saying but let’s not forget that a blog is first and foremost a discussion forum – not a news channel.

    With that in mind, I’m unsure that Ed intends his articles to provoke discussion.

    I detect that the frustration we’re seeing is based on the lack of concrete information. It doesn’t have to be confidential but just some reassurance that things are moving on.

    Assuming that the silence is as deafening inside SJP, just imaginew how the staff and players feel – not good I can assure you – I’ve been in such a situation and it’s not pleasant.

    If this is Ashley’s way of running his businesses, pity help anyone working for him.

  • Mac

    Jun 26, 2009 at 4:51 PM

    Comment #28

    Well i came away for a week in the sun. I arrived on Monday no mobile phones no tv bliss. I thought i.ll pop on here to see how we’re gettin on;I,ll see who owns us now who Shearers bought how we,re gettin on. Nothing has changed o my god what is going on with our club. I fly home and back to reality on Monday and believe me i am not looking forward to the new season. AAAAAAAGGGGGHHHHH

  • Rangerman

    Jun 26, 2009 at 4:54 PM

    Comment #29

    Anyone watching the under 21’s?

  • BlacknWhite Barmy

    Jun 26, 2009 at 5:00 PM

    Comment #30

    Nightmare Scenario

    No buyers so Ashley sells as many ‘stars’ as possible for silly money and pockets the money. He then put the club in administration – 10 points deducted – sells the ground / trainging academy etc and does a runner.

    Cashley is a disgrace and doesnt care for any one but himself

  • batty

    Jun 26, 2009 at 5:03 PM

    Comment #31

    aye ranger

  • Whumpie

    Jun 26, 2009 at 5:09 PM

    Comment #33

    Lesh – interesting points there, and I agree that the total lack of info – or any contact at all – is the root of the problem and another major mistake by Ashley’s mob.

    I’m less than convinced about the silence within the walls, though. The only explanation for the total lack of direct quotes from anyone – even recently canned staff – points to some very tight (and well-incentivised) gagging orders, and perhaps a lot of reassurances which aren’t making it beyond the walls.

    It’s all a bit odd, frankly.

    Your quote “It doesn’t have to be confidential but just some reassurance that things are moving on” just about says it all.

  • OHurley

    Jun 26, 2009 at 5:10 PM

    Comment #34

    Ok- changing gears a bit, here’s a haiku:

    Mike Ashley, bastard
    The antichrist of the Toon
    You tw@t, please leave soon.

  • bill

    Jun 26, 2009 at 5:10 PM

    Comment #35

    What worries me is that this period of due diligence seems to be taking a long time. This suggests that the potential new owners are either very careful with their money or that they have to be very careful with their money.

    Neither scenario looks very rosy, unless the consortium is local supporters that have a bit of cash. I’m not keen on outsiders coming in with little cash, as they would obviously be trying to turn a profit, and as we all know football teams don’t usually make a profit.

  • boater

    Jun 26, 2009 at 5:14 PM

    Comment #36

    Ashley stands to gain very little from protracting the sale.. he is haemorraghing money every day having settled on a takeover price with the interested parties.

    Ashley has messed up big time and I;m looking forward to new ownership, new era and getting cracking but all your conspiracies about sabotage are daft… patience, patience.

    Why appoint a manager before selling a club on – as you say Whumpie – we divvent even know what the true circumstances are. Why the hell would you start moving players in and out without the manager in place? You wanted him out – he’s going – it doesn’t happen over night unfortunately children.

    Also – Of course fat cat agents are trying to push through deals at the toon .. and we’ve always been easy meat when it comes to inflated transfer fees.. which agent wouldn’t be exasperated knowing the toon is out of the picture when it comes to offloading mediocre players for large sums – no one else wants.

  • Doocey

    Jun 26, 2009 at 5:24 PM

    Comment #37

    The mess continues.

  • ObaFan2

    Jun 26, 2009 at 5:40 PM

    Comment #39

    England 3-0 up 🙂

  • Big Dave

    Jun 26, 2009 at 5:43 PM

    Comment #40

    OHurley im surprised that got past Ed mate lol


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