Curbishley Probably Best Bet If Ashley Doesn’t Want Shearer


We expect to get a new manager this week at Newcastle once Mike Ashley makes it official he is going to do what Newcastle fans don’t want him to do – and that is to keep the Newcastle club for another year.

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Mike Ashley
– looks like what Newcastle fans are – just competely fed up

It seems that Newcastle have so far sounded out about four potential managers about taking over at St James’ Park should the club remain
unsold – but as we expected Alan Shearer isn’t one of them.

We have to think that David O’Leary, Alan Curbishley and Joe Kinnear are three of the four, and of those we would plump form Curbishley, who could do a really good job on Tyneside.

Owner Mike Ashley will first assess a couple of bids made for the club, and we know one is from local Newcastle businessman Chris Moat, but we don’t think either offer will be acceptable to the Newcastle owner.

Both offer are said to be well short of  Ashley’s valuation of the club, and it looks like the odds are high he will take the club off the market within the next week and appointing a permanent manager.

If he is to do that then the sooner he does it then the more time the new manager will have of fixing up the squad for an attempt on promotion this coming season.

And we see that experienced Dutch manager Dick Advocaat, the newly fired coach of Zenit St Petersburg is also available, but whether Mike will even think of offering him the Newcastle job has to be a huge doubt right now.

Presumably Mike will want to save money to make the club more attractive to buyers next season, and little money will be available if any to bring in new players for next season.

Of course the very best thing he can do to make Newcastle a more attrative club is to get the club promoted, but exactly what goes through Mike’s mind these days is a complete mystery to us.

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56 comments so far

  • pondering

    Aug 10, 2009 at 2:50 PM

    Comment #1

    hmmm

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  • Stuart79

    Aug 10, 2009 at 2:53 PM

    Comment #2

    Ed,

    Can you tell me who Chris Moat is?

    Does he want to buy the club an’ll.

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  • Fostino

    Aug 10, 2009 at 2:55 PM

    Comment #3

    smith, guthrie, barton, butt, geremi, nolan = (all good earners bar guthrie)

    sell the worst three for whatever price possible, in my opinion they are butt, GEREMI & nolan

    them three alone are probably adding up to a 100,000 a week in wages

    replace these three players with a cretive midfielder of 25,000 wages max would be sweet

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  • Wigaz

    Aug 10, 2009 at 2:55 PM

    Comment #4

    I’d be gutted for Shearer but to be fair Curbs is a good manager & he has proven that he can get clubs out of this league & keep them up. He’s also got a canny eye for a player at charlton he brought in a young darren bent & scott parker. But didn’t he leave west ham for the same reasons that KK left us?

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  • NUFC-0809-Oh Dear

    Aug 10, 2009 at 2:57 PM

    Comment #5

    Any more news on the Moat front?

    Ca$hley was due back from his holidays over the weekend to discuss the deals with 2? bids.

    Who is the second bid anyone?

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  • Doocey

    Aug 10, 2009 at 3:00 PM

    Comment #6

    NUFC-0809-Oh Dear // Aug 10, 2009 at 2:57 PM

    Any more news on the Moat front?

    Ca$hley was due back from his holidays over the weekend to discuss the deals with 2? bids.

    Who is the second bid anyone?

    Ashley flew back yesterday to talk with Moat but I’ve a feeling the talks don’t have a positive outcome.

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  • Tino 11

    Aug 10, 2009 at 3:00 PM

    Comment #7

    If not Shearer then Strachan would be my next choice, followed by Curbishley.

    In terms of recruiting players, i don’t see why we can’t get players in on loan now, if the new manager doesn’t want them then they just cancel the loan.

    Plus we could try some of the free agents like Sol Campbell etc, on a pay as you play deal with the promise of a longer contract when a new manager comes in.

    Batty, if your logged on, you seem very angry at the minute, have your bets not been coming in?

    Stardust – I see your back on today, you went very quiet after making your famous “you can never ever teach positional sense” comment!

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  • chanty

    Aug 10, 2009 at 3:01 PM

    Comment #8

    i’d like ashley to make a decision, either way, so we know where we stand

    if he chooses to stay, bring in football people at board room level and let them get on with it. he should sit back and observe how a football club should be run and throw a few of his ideas in once he has got the jist

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  • Wigaz

    Aug 10, 2009 at 3:02 PM

    Comment #9

    Mind you doocey if it was bad news I think we would have seen that smug four eyed twat Lambias on SSN by now. How they love to bring us bad news 24 hours a day!

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  • Michael12

    Aug 10, 2009 at 3:04 PM

    Comment #10

    Alan Curbishley, David O’Leary and Joe Kinnear would be my preferred order.

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  • Doocey

    Aug 10, 2009 at 3:11 PM

    Comment #11

    Wigaz // Aug 10, 2009 at 3:02 PM

    Mind you doocey if it was bad news I think we would have seen that smug four eyed twat Lambias on SSN by now. How they love to bring us bad news 24 hours a day!

    We can only live in hope

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  • Whumpie

    Aug 10, 2009 at 3:13 PM

    Comment #12

    I think there are two reasons why almost every respectable opinion in football is calling for Big Al.

    1. With just 3 weeks to go in the window, the club a total mess, and serious cash problems, who else cares enough about the club to some in? What makes anyone think Curbs or (funnier) Advocaat would do it, given Ashley’s history with managers?

    2. Anyone except Big Al will be limited to conventional methods to get results, i.e. transfers, tactics, motivation. Just like Souness, Gullitt, Allerdyce et al were. With 3 weeks left, that’s not going to work well, and it’s also not really where our root problems lie. Shearer, on the other hand, can instill exactly what we’ve been missing since Wor Bobby went:

    – True passion and leadership based on unquestionable loyalty to this club and no other
    – Discipline and a decent work ethic
    – Total respect and obedience from players and other staff. (Except Barton, who can bog off)

    Bring me Big Al, as far as I’m concerned. He is the only man who’s prepared to come and has what it takes to fix the root problems.

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  • Shot Bru

    Aug 10, 2009 at 3:17 PM

    Comment #13

    Curbishley left West Ham due to interference in team affairs, so i guess he wouldn’t want the job. Unfortunately i think Hughton will stay in charge until Kinnear is fit again. If Hughton has been given the green light to sign loan players it’s possibly Kinnear using his contacts to scout the loan players for whren he comes back for Xmas. I think our chance of being sold now is gone for the time being.

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  • brownrob

    Aug 10, 2009 at 3:17 PM

    Comment #14

    I would rather have joe pasquale instead of joe f in kinnear

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  • Geordie Cobbler

    Aug 10, 2009 at 3:19 PM

    Comment #15

    Why is alan curbishley’s name even in the mix?! he is a poor manager…he got charlton up like 15 years back and kept them up, nothing special about the guy at all and david o’leary is a clown.

    My preferred choices are :
    1. Lee Clark
    2. Gordan Strachan
    3. Any of the rest…none of them are owt special.

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  • dave 1961

    Aug 10, 2009 at 3:24 PM

    Comment #16

    Alan Curbishley? you have got to be joking yesterdays man like the rest why settle for s*ite if anyone really would settle for any of these it will be like going back to when we got roader palmed on us buy the fat man then told we wanted him. these will at best get us mid table do people on this site really want these 3 duck eggs. Stick with who you want but never say well it’s the best we could hope for, be yes men like the proposed awful managers, but say it because you mean it & not to be sheep. Don’t except second best I want shearer full stop. Because it’s the only way forward, we have been down this road many times & it’s always the same failure we need long term planning.

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  • magforlife

    Aug 10, 2009 at 3:27 PM

    Comment #17

    If Ashley decides to stay it will be the worst decision even by his standards, this club has ever made.
    With a decimated first team squad, they will be playing in a half empty stadium and the club shops and sports direct will be boycotted further reducing the revenue.
    It will be demo after demo until he goes, how bloody thick can you get, what part of go and dont come back, does he not understand.

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  • RyanToon

    Aug 10, 2009 at 3:29 PM

    Comment #18

    Curbs for me but id prefer Shearer but it aint gonna happen 🙁

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  • Stuart79

    Aug 10, 2009 at 3:30 PM

    Comment #19

    I think Ashley will stay.

    Although it would cost him at least £30m from his own pocket to subsidise the club for another season.

    The common sense thing would be to accept the bid on the table if it means taing a £30m hit on his asking price. That way he is out of it.

    Even if he stays and invest £30m there is no guarentee we will go up and then wheredoes thst leave him in his quest to sell the club.

    Like I said that’s the common sense thing to do but common sense and Mike Ashley seem to go together like a Polish man and Hitler!

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  • Geordie Jayne

    Aug 10, 2009 at 3:31 PM

    Comment #20

    I can’t bring myself to even think we have to put up with Cashley for any longer, the thought disgusts me.

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  • Solaidback

    Aug 10, 2009 at 3:32 PM

    Comment #21

    Correct me if I’m wrong but don’t clubs not in the PL still have the ability to bring in loaned players after the transfer window closes or did I get that wrong????

    I think if Ashley doesn’t want Shearer & decides to keep the club for another year, he should bring in Curbs or Strachen this week, both are good managers & neither take shite from gobby players like Barton!!!

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  • mikcol73

    Aug 10, 2009 at 3:32 PM

    Comment #22

    alrite lads, theirs only one positive from playing in the championship and thats not having to listen to ANDY GRAY crapping on about he should of done this he should done that, he does me bleeding head in,
    we are stuck with MA and he should just knuckle down and protect his sliding investment and get us back in the top flight ASAP and thats the only way he’s gonna get his money,
    i wonder if mike has been to the doctor coz the fat pig looke like he’s got swine flu

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  • Tino 11

    Aug 10, 2009 at 3:33 PM

    Comment #23

    I think people need to realise now we are in the CC we aren’t going to get the top managers, and if cashley stays we will need a manager who is used to working with a small budget, like Curbishley.

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  • chanty

    Aug 10, 2009 at 3:44 PM

    Comment #24

    i think we can loan players up until november, free transfers too.

    whats this he is gonna use £30m out of his own pocket, what about all the income for transfers we have got so far this year, from n’zog to beye. where is that money?

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  • magforlife

    Aug 10, 2009 at 3:53 PM

    Comment #25

    Just been reading the Chron story – headline – Hughton given the green light for transfers – and then the tripe that this refers to two youngsters from Spurs who will come in on loan just before the transfer window closes.
    If this is not Ashley propaganda i will eat hay with a horse, the Chronicle should be ashamed of themselves for printing this, its a disgrace.
    Do they honestly think the supporters will swallow this cack?

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  • Stuart79

    Aug 10, 2009 at 3:54 PM

    Comment #26

    chanty // Aug 10, 2009 at 3:44 PM

    i think we can loan players up until november, free transfers too.

    whats this he is gonna use £30m out of his own pocket, what about all the income for transfers we have got so far this year, from n’zog to beye. where is that money?

    Well there is still a hefty wage bill and we still owe payments on incoming transfers from the last 5 yrs.

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  • ToonMobile

    Aug 10, 2009 at 3:56 PM

    Comment #27

    Anyone but Shearer as manager will have the same old outcome as usual with our manager turnover rate staying the same when the fans realise we are only good enough for mid-table Championship mediocrity due to lack of depth in the squad – and lack of inspirational management.

    We are a far cry from MA saying we’d be buying players upfront in the future, what he really meant was we’ll just be lending them and developing them further for others clubs – he is getting his wish for us to be cultivating young talent for other teams, god knows he has sold most of ours already.

    He’ll be lucky to get £50million this time next year when we aren’t promoted, so he should sell now. It doesn’t seem like rocket science that he should accept an offer of £60-70million – before the club and its brand image are damaged even further.

    Maybe the lack of interest in buying the club is partly due to our brand image being tainted so much over the years?

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  • Doocey

    Aug 10, 2009 at 3:56 PM

    Comment #28

    http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11678_5483563,00.html

    A little bit ungrateful
    Headless chicken though, has the potential to be a very good player however.
    Hope we get good money for him 🙂

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  • magforlife

    Aug 10, 2009 at 3:59 PM

    Comment #30

    Why doesnt John Hall give ashley 100m of the money he fleeced from him, he would still have a healthy profit and i would see this as a responsibility seeing as he landed us with the basterd in the first place.

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  • toonoholic

    Aug 10, 2009 at 4:04 PM

    Comment #31

    that jonas wants to play for olympiakos !!
    for 8 mn, hes urs olympiakos

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  • Rodzilla

    Aug 10, 2009 at 4:08 PM

    Comment #32

    If Ashley decides to stay I’ll be fkn furious. When we got relegated I thought he did the decent an honourable thing with his apologetic “moving forward” speech, and I for one had forgiven him for all the mess and was looking forward to us re-building in the close season.

    Being a gambling man, I was utterly gob-smacked to hear of him putting such a valuable asset back on the market again – selling for cheap instead of trying to get us back up where we belong.

    This farce has now dragged, and dragged, and dragged on since his questionable initial decision and we are now EVEN WORSE off than we were when he allegedly put us up for sale in the first place.

    If he now decides to keep us, AGAIN, after effectively squandering the whole of close season to ramshackle a team and management 2 weeks into the new season, at the end of the transfer window – I’ll question this man’s sanity.

    …and if this, my fear happens, I’m sure we’ll hear plenty of the same old sh1te “…well, give him credit – he did try to sell”. My fkn hairy @rse, did he.

    Alternatively, if we are bought over the next week, then thank you and good riddance.

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  • onepeterb

    Aug 10, 2009 at 4:10 PM

    Comment #34

    because He’s a Money grabbing conservative

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  • ginkoh

    Aug 10, 2009 at 4:17 PM

    Comment #35

    Ashley should know one thing before he decide to gamble and stay more another season. We won’t get promote under his charge !! that’s fact !! he ‘s the problem and he just not accept it.

    How long the man take the decision? 10 weeks ? what the joke !No news for today it’s mean Moat will fail to take over the club. And forgot someone like Advocaat. Only manager in his brainless head is Kinnear.

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  • RyanToon

    Aug 10, 2009 at 4:18 PM

    Comment #36

    see you jonas

    good whilst it lasted

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  • Rodzilla

    Aug 10, 2009 at 4:18 PM

    Comment #37

    …mine too Stuart.

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  • Nobby_Long

    Aug 10, 2009 at 4:26 PM

    Comment #38

    Just thinking about there we are financially

    So what have we generated in income since January: – my guesstimates:

    Including the sales of Given & N’Zogbia, plus recent dapertures, but minus the purchase of R Taylor & Nolan – we have a net income from transfers of around £28.5m.

    We are also owed 50% of the Milner sale – making the total £34.5m added to the books this summer. We don’t know what is owed out on previous transfers, but there is a good surplus – say £15m -£20m

    Wages will have gone down by about £400K per week – which is around £21m.

    With income set to drop to around £50m or less we are probably still in the region of at least £15m short of breakeven

    If we sell Colo & Xisco – we will be lucky to get enough to cover what we still owe on them – which is probably around £8m – hard to tell what we have paid & what we still owe, but we could get another £6m of the wage bill & if we could get rid of Butt & Geremi that would a similar wage reduction & adding in smallish fees – we could be close to balancing the books. – the wage bill would still be circa £40m – still far far too high to be sustainable – & only anywahere near to being manageable in the short term through income being supplemented by transfer fees.

    Even with that though, we still need to bring in players, so that means needing cash or someone to underwrite the overdraft.

    What would be a major concern for any owner is – what if we don’t get promoted? – what do we have to sell next year to offset reduced income. Unless there is promotion at the first attempt – there will have to be the same approach to next years mid season transfers.

    You can see why, if Ashley is staying, all he would be interested in is loan deals – even those would mean wages putting us more in the red.

    Its not a great situation to be in, but as we’ve all said this process should have started as soon as the season ended, not now.

    I think that’s the problem with appointing Shearer – he wanted cash for purchases, but can’t see how there possibly could be any at the moment.

    Although it can’t be guaranteed, I’m sure with a few key purchases we could win this league…but it is a huge risk for anyone to take.

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  • ginkoh

    Aug 10, 2009 at 4:41 PM

    Comment #39

    It’s joke that even though Asley doesn’t want to put his money to the club anymore, just on loan at best BUT he will decide to stay !? For what !? How the terrible decision.

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  • Alex

    Aug 10, 2009 at 4:46 PM

    Comment #40

    Ed Advocaat is a no go he had already signed a deal with the Belgian FA to become national team manager before he was fired by Zenit where his contract was running down anyway

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