NUSC Not Keen On David O’Leary As Newcastle Manager


The Newcastle United Supporters Club (NUSC) have said they have some concerns at David O’Leary being hired as the new Newcastle manager.

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NUSC spokesman Steve Hastie told Telegraph Sport today:

“Why would you want to get someone in when you have previously said Alan Shearer was 110 per cent the man you want only a matter of eight weeks ago?”,

“I am absolutely baffled by this latest development. I can not understand what Ashley’s game is. He is either a very good or very bad poker player.”

“The fans cannot comprehend why people like David O’Leary, Gordon Strachan, Alan Curbishley and Joe Kinnear keep getting mentioned when Alan Shearer has openly said he wants the job and would love the chance to get on with it and to move on with his plans.”

“It is unbelievable. The whole situation with Newcastle has reached the point where we have been waiting for the Alan Shearer scenario to get back online. This smacks of a desperate owner trying to make desperate decisions without any rationale. Which is what his done throughout his rein.”

Hastie says that Alan Shearer and not David O’Leary is the best candidate to lead the club out of the Championship, and stright back to the Premier League:

“David O’Leary has been out of the game for three years now,” “He does not have any connection with the North East or with football at the moment even as a pundit.”

“This has come from left field because he is somebody else that is currently unemployed like Curbishley.” “On the other hand Alan Shearer knows the club, he knows the city and he knows the fans and in his heart he wants to do the job.”

“He has said that and that is exactly what the people want to hear.” “People want to see Alan Shearer being given the opportunity to work with the club and the fans to get Newcastle United back where it should be in the Premier League.”

At this point we have no idea what Mike Ashley will do, but this thing has dragged on for far too long now – over 11 weeks.

We have to hope that Mike sells the club to Barry Moat, but we fear he will keep the club, and indeed appoint David O’Leary as the next boss at the club.

We wouldn’t mind him keeping the club if only he would give Alan Shearer the chance he craves.

And if Mike keeps the club, and goes his own sweet way again, it’s almost certain that Newcastle will continue to lurch from one crisis to the next – just like it has these last 12 months.

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77 comments so far

  • Toon Graeme

    Aug 11, 2009 at 2:35 PM

    Comment #1

    Ed, your on fire today mate.

    Least this NUFC malarky is a distraction from my current marital problems.

    Not happy today 🙁

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  • Tom4Nufc

    Aug 11, 2009 at 2:43 PM

    Comment #2

    Ok guys, this is VERY far-fetched but this is from a the ‘supposed’ Mike Ashley on Facebook, posting on one of the ‘Anti-Ashley’ groups which have been created.

    The first post he said ‘Hello,

    To whom it may concern, I have tried hardest and given my best and have never acted without the success of the club in the forefront of my actions. I as much as anyone am very dissapointed by the poor outcome of last season. It is easier to critise a decision than to defend it, I can only say I did what I felt was right at the time. I hope that one day I will be judged on these positive attributes rather than the negative. Newcastle Utd were here before I came and they will be here after I leave, I find it most regrettable that my time here has been less than a success.

    Thanks’

    The second post was ‘ I’ve shown humility and you’ve shown hate. I am a business man at the end of the day, I will not except Moats offer until he raises it to a reasonable amount. I’m afraid until he does, a deal will not be done. I refuse to be held ransom by the club that I have invested so much money and time in. The Majority of you want Shearer as the new manager but do not let your heart rule your head. I feel a more experienced, established and consistant manager will be the right choice to gain promotion, I have made it clear I believe David O’Leary is the man for the job.’

    Probably means nothing but there you go!

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  • Toon_Army

    Aug 11, 2009 at 2:50 PM

    Comment #3

    O’Blearly will ge us Relegated and say it was someone elses fault… Curbs is the man for the Job he has Principles, Ironically he walked away from West Ham for the Same Reasons as Kevin Keegan (WAS NOT SACKED) due to the lack of control over transfers…

    He is the Interim man for the job but whether he can be convinced is another story, he may dislike and remember what happened to Keegan under the current Regime…

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  • Toon_Army

    Aug 11, 2009 at 2:55 PM

    Comment #4

    Ashley’s PR people said today: “As it stands the process is still ongoing, although it’s a slow process. As far as Mike is concerned, he either sells it or he doesn’t. Then he will make plans accordingly.”

    And when pressed on Moat’s bid to take the club on, a representative of the Ashley camp said: “Barry Moat is not in the driving seat. There are still others out there but nothing is likely to be resolved before Saturday’s game with Reading.”

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  • Toon_Army

    Aug 11, 2009 at 2:57 PM

    Comment #6

    Fight in the Arena: http://mos-bossi.mybrute.com

    Great Flash game…

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  • komfort

    Aug 11, 2009 at 3:11 PM

    Comment #7

    t g , keep your chin up mate thing’s will get sorted..they normally do.

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  • Toon Graeme

    Aug 11, 2009 at 3:15 PM

    Comment #8

    Komfort – cheers for the chin up.

    Hope so mate – looks bleak!!

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  • Geordiedoonsooth

    Aug 11, 2009 at 3:18 PM

    Comment #9

    This is all very depressing

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  • Stuart79

    Aug 11, 2009 at 3:19 PM

    Comment #10

    Why are they saying things like this when there is absolutely no proof that O’leary is getting the job?

    The papers obviously know nothing regarding the takeover as you can tell from about 20 different stories from the different papers.

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  • MacToon

    Aug 11, 2009 at 3:27 PM

    Comment #11

    Obviously Shearer isn’t prepared to be a puppet and if hired it will be without his hands tied and under his terms, as it should be.

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  • Mac

    Aug 11, 2009 at 3:29 PM

    Comment #12

    No offence but who actually cares what the NUSC think?

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  • boater

    Aug 11, 2009 at 3:30 PM

    Comment #13

    I f*****g despair at the nusc bollox brothers.. I really, really do. Do we really want shearer that bad? Mainly the unthinking mob demand shearer as some latest geordie-nation hollow gesture… SHEARER SHEARER… blah blah at the gate of SJP… 12 games later faltering under the stewardship of a novice who MAY or MAY NOT be a football manager. Why the hell take the chance?

    Reasons I have heard.
    1) he will unite/galvanise/command respect from the current squad… like the last 8 games is that – with a better 1st team than now and fighting for our lives?
    2) he will be given more time by fans… true but why? I mean when people talk about patience – it’s to enable a club progress at a steady, realistic rate – we have been guilty of not doing this aye – but that doesn;t mean handing the reigns over to an ex-player legend – and allow us to slip back as a club whilst we sit ganning ‘aye he’s a geordie – sooo he can do what he wants – aye nae bovva’ ///

    if shearer had an OUNCE of humility he would rule himself out of the job as inexperienced for the position and go and learn his trade somewhere else… not a club in crisis.

    Therefore I hope – that Ashley retains control… as much as he I feel he is a completely ineffective owner – he is right about the need for O’Leary or Strachan, Curbs or whoever./

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  • MacToon

    Aug 11, 2009 at 3:35 PM

    Comment #14

    boater, I’d think the majority would just like a manager that’s allowed to manage. Someone we can all get behind and help to push for promotion. I’m one to give most managers the time and I’d hope that whoever is appointed is backed by the owner.

    Pretty basic but it never seems to happen here.

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  • Doocey

    Aug 11, 2009 at 3:38 PM

    Comment #15

    Tom4Nufc

    Obviously a fake, can’t even spell accept either, he wrote except 😀

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  • MacToon

    Aug 11, 2009 at 3:39 PM

    Comment #16

    Lol as if it would be real 😆

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  • Rangerman

    Aug 11, 2009 at 3:40 PM

    Comment #17

    It’s things like this that make NUSC a bad idea.

    Whether Ashley stays or not the fans need to let whoever owns the club to get on and make their own decisions when it comes to managerial appointments.

    I’ve seen nothing from Shearer as a manager to suggest he’s anywhere near as good an option as O’Leary or Curbishley, I do wonder sometimes if it’s some of our fans that contribute to putting off interested groups from buying the club with their need for daft statements like this that stop owners running how they want.

    If NUSC want to run the club then set up a share option to try and get it fan owned but until then pipe down.

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  • Stuart79

    Aug 11, 2009 at 3:47 PM

    Comment #18

    Rangerman // Aug 11, 2009 at 3:40 PM

    Are you sure you really want to leave Ashley to make decisions? He hasn’t got a great record has he?

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  • bobby the great

    Aug 11, 2009 at 3:49 PM

    Comment #19

    who gives a shat what nusc thinks ! david o’leary would be a better option than the scottish dwarf and another cockney which we have learned to hate so much ! me personaly have nowt against cockneys but when we are seen making banners about get the cockney mafia out and not wanting anymore southerners there this just makes look even more stupid than ever by saying we would take curbs over d,o,l

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  • Rangerman

    Aug 11, 2009 at 3:51 PM

    Comment #20

    Are you sure you really want to leave Ashley to make decisions? He hasn’t got a great record has he?

    ….

    I’d rather him bring in someone that he wanted rather than bringing in someone else just to appease the fans.

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  • Stuart79

    Aug 11, 2009 at 3:54 PM

    Comment #21

    Rangerman // Aug 11, 2009 at 3:51 PM

    Are you sure you really want to leave Ashley to make decisions? He hasn’t got a great record has he?

    ….

    I’d rather him bring in someone that he wanted rather than bringing in someone else just to appease the fans.

    Like Kinnear?

    A total and utter embarrassment to the club who brought the club down everytime he opened his mouth.

    Oh and not forgetting his weekly appearances at Soho Square for his disciplinary hearings

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  • Joseph

    Aug 11, 2009 at 3:56 PM

    Comment #22

    honestly i dont care what nusc, in my persoanl opinion shearer is not the best man for the job curbishley is, as for o’leary i’d honestly just be happy to have a manager at this stage and he’d put pressure on ma every interview he’d mention lack of cash (see his time at villa)

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  • Graeme

    Aug 11, 2009 at 3:56 PM

    Comment #23

    NUSC have no more knowledge of whats going on than next doors cat.

    Unfortunately, as has been pointed out, Shearer is not the best manager available to do the job that needs doing – he has no experience and isnt qualified. I know they can get waivers etc, but we (and Ashley) really do need the best man available for the job.

    Its as obvious as the gut on Ashley that he has not got the experience needed to run this club effectively and has actually come out and admitted as much. In that case, you hire the best man you can get to do the job for you – no different to any job you want doing.

    It has to be said that that also means you dont take the cheapest or the easiest to get – it has to be the best man for the job.

    It just needs to be done as soon as is possible – today would be good!!

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  • telsave

    Aug 11, 2009 at 3:57 PM

    Comment #24

    If there was one thing to make the appointment of O’dreary as manager is for the supporters to say they do not want him. How can some of the subecribers to this site say that Shearer has no experience at a mangement whereas O’dreary has, perhaps he had 3 years ago with no contact in the football world since then. He destroyed Leeds and was about to do the same at Villa until they recognised what was happening and got rid of him, unless that is one way MA can bring this once great club finally to its knees appoint a manager who only knows how to manage with a blank cheque book. I am afraid it is MA turning to his mates again if this story is true.

    It looks like MA is holding on I said shortly after relegation on this blog that I thought he would do so as he is a gambler not a true business man. he keeps stalling Harris and putting up new blocks at every opportunity everyone is frustrated by him just as in his other business he is the most hated man in the city and Crown Properties rue the day they came across MA and allowed him into the old Burberry premises on Regent Street. He does not belong there he does not belong here. He could write off his losses at NUFC through Sorts Direct so why is he holding on because he is gambling his next horse and outsider comes in or the next turn on the roulette wheel makes him a fortune he is waiting for soemone to offer him over the odds for a club that has a vlue that is dropping like a stone. He is a seller not a buyer so be prepared for more departures and no one coming in we will field a team of inexperienced reserves and acadamy hopefuls and that is not the recipie of success.

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  • Rangerman

    Aug 11, 2009 at 4:05 PM

    Comment #25

    Kinnear came in as he was the only manager that would take up the job on a week to week deal, again though all clubs have had managers that haven’t worked out and the time for complaining is when they’ve proven to not be up to the job, not before they’ve even had a chance.

    As I’ve said anyone who owns the club should bring in whoever they want, it’s their club and they will be held responsible if it doesn’t work out.

    Whoever buys the club next needs to forget about fan opinion and get on with doing what they think is right to make this club successful, for too long now we’ve had people try to appease the fans rather than doing what is right.

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  • Tino 11

    Aug 11, 2009 at 4:05 PM

    Comment #26

    Rangerman – Have you considered that the way Ashley and the club conduct their business may put potential owners and managers off?

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  • bobby the great

    Aug 11, 2009 at 4:09 PM

    Comment #27

    i have been a newcastle united fan for about 17 years now and what i dont understand without being a geordie myself is why we have to have a geordie in charge of nufc i mean shouldnt it be someone who can run the club properly ?i mean i recall jack charlton being up here and they dont come much more geordie than him but he didnt set the place on fire did he? now i remember when gullit left and bobby came in people were saying hes too old he cant do it !but he turned out to be the best manager in recent times for us why because he was the best man around for the job it dont mean because you come from newcastle you should have the job would you give it to gazza /waddle/beardsley/they have just as much experience of management as big al

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  • Stuart79

    Aug 11, 2009 at 4:13 PM

    Comment #28

    bobby the great // Aug 11, 2009 at 4:09 PM

    I agree. We don’t need a Geordie.

    We do need Shearer to get the job. If he’s a success great if not at least we will know and can move on.

    Until he’s had it his shadow will hang over whover is manager.

    IMO if Ashley is to stay we could do a lot worse than O’leary (Kinnear is proof of that).

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  • Rangerman

    Aug 11, 2009 at 4:15 PM

    Comment #29

    If there was one thing to make the appointment of O’dreary as manager is for the supporters to say they do not want him. How can some of the subecribers to this site say that Shearer has no experience at a mangement whereas O’dreary has, perhaps he had 3 years ago with no contact in the football world since then. He destroyed Leeds and was about to do the same at Villa until they recognised what was happening and got rid of him.

    ………

    Being out of management for 3 years isn’t that long, Keegan was out that long and it didn’t affect him, Shearer on the other hand has only managed for 8 games in his career and only won 1 of them while failing to organise and motivate the players.

    Blaming O’Leary for what happened at Leeds is like blaming Souness for what happened here, the chairman is in charge of the purse strings and negotiating contracts so he has to take the blame if the club overspends.

    His record at Leeds was very good as was his first season at Villa, it went down hill after that with them finishing 10th and 16th but he was hardly a massive disaster, O’Neill only managed to finish 11th with what O’Leary had despite adding Petrov and Ashley Young.

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  • ToonMobile

    Aug 11, 2009 at 4:17 PM

    Comment #30

    The Chronicle article about MA coming back to watch the game this weekend at St James’ initially had a lot of readers comments on the article (whose slant I am sure you can imagine) but the Chronicle have removed the feature from that article feed, a lot of messages had to be removed by the admin there too before the feature got pulled – just goes to show the depth of feeling from many towards this man and what he has done to the club – and of course a hint to the reception he might receive at the weekend were he to do so.

    Also doesn’t put the Chronicle in a good light, where they have obviously silenced opinion on this particlular piece whilst they encourage it in others, might have been for legal reasons I suppose 🙂

    http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/nufc/newcastle-united-news/2009/08/11/mike-ashley-weighing-up-st-james-s-return-72703-24370496/

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  • Rangerman

    Aug 11, 2009 at 4:19 PM

    Comment #31

    Rangerman – Have you considered that the way Ashley and the club conduct their business may put potential owners and managers off?

    ……

    in what way?

    The club is up for sale and Seymour Pearce are doing the negotiating, they know the price but if they can’t match it then go and buy Darlington or somewhere like that.

    Any new owner won’t have to deal with Ashley when they’ve finally bought it but they will still have to appease the fans who want messiahs that can’t be upset otherwise expect mass protests and big money spent every window when the club clearly can’t afford it.

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  • Rangerman

    Aug 11, 2009 at 4:21 PM

    Comment #32

    ToonMobile – The chronicle are just covering themselves, soon you will have to wait for your post to be moderated like most major newspapers do.

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  • Archie Brand

    Aug 11, 2009 at 4:21 PM

    Comment #33

    I know the Toon, I know the fans, and in my heart I really want the job too.
    According to NUSC that means I should get the job ahead of O’Leary!

    It would be interesting to hear how Hastie justifies his statement that Shearer (8 games as a manager and relegation) would be a better choice of manager than O’Leary (5 years where he never finished outside the top 6)

    It appears that as far as NUSC are concerned it is better to be a present failure than a past success.

    As for “the fans are not happy with O’Leary” it would probably be more accurate to say that a small number of the small percentage of fans polled, of the small percentage that NUSC has as members, were not happy.

    Ed – it’s disappoiinting that you actually lend weight to the rantings of this deluded group.

    Despite their high opinions of themselves, they are nothing.

    When I was at primary school 4 of us used to play table tennis every week at a mates house. His mum got some t-shirts for us to wear with fancy writing on them.

    We thought we were pretty cool.

    Of course we were cool – to us – but the rest of the Table Tennis players at school obviously thought we were a bunch of tossers – even though we did make up 20 percent of the table tennis playing population of the school.

    I can’t help thinking that we still had more credibility than NUSC.

    Toon Graeme – do us a favour – take it somewhere else.

    Tom4NUFC – I think the real Ashley would know the difference between “except” and “accept”.

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  • Rangerman

    Aug 11, 2009 at 4:25 PM

    Comment #34

    Archie – Great post.

    Made me laugh at the table tennis part.

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  • Tino 11

    Aug 11, 2009 at 4:26 PM

    Comment #35

    Rangerman- The fans don’t want messiahs, no do they want big money spent. They want some money spent in vital areas, that is it.

    Most of the fans would be happier with a £3 Million player than a £10 Million if they were going to do the job properly.

    You lump all the fans together because of a few who call for protests and Keegan back etc.

    For once try and admit that MA is to blame for most of this mess, NOT THE FANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • Stuart79

    Aug 11, 2009 at 4:27 PM

    Comment #36

    Archie Brand // Aug 11, 2009 at 4:21 PM

    Bet you couldn’t put as much spin on the old ping pong ball that Ashley and his muppets put on things regarding NUFC…..

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  • Macas35

    Aug 11, 2009 at 4:33 PM

    Comment #37

    Shearer only had 8 games, how can anyone judge him on that? Maybe he isn’t the right man for the job, but to say he won’t make a good manager because he couldn’t transform a team in the relegation zone overnight isn’t really very fair. A big advantage is that he know the players and knows exactly which areas need strengthening.

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  • Toon Chicken

    Aug 11, 2009 at 4:36 PM

    Comment #38

    A surprising amount of sense being spoken on here today. Keep up the good work people! 🙂

    And I thought the bedsheet brigade were an embarrassment – they’ve got nowt on the goons at NUSC!

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  • bowburnmag

    Aug 11, 2009 at 4:42 PM

    Comment #39

    KEEGAN, KEEGAN, KEEGAN, KEEGAN

    ahem…..

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  • bowburnmag

    Aug 11, 2009 at 4:42 PM

    Comment #40

    T_C – until you turned up!!

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