It seems other clubs are cherry picking our best players, and news tonight that Newcastle have received a decent offer for Irish winger Damien Duff, from a Premier League club.
Damien Duff – good offer received for him
So don’t be surprised if Duff joins the summer exodus out of St James’ Park.
Duff has always insisted that he wants to stay on Tyneside and finish his career with Newcastle, but this is now out of his hands, and if Newcastle decide to sell because the offer is good enough, Damien will be on his way.
With nobody in charge of the club who’s to stop the sale after all?
Chris Hughton said today:
“There will be a lot of talk about players leaving the club.”
“There are plenty of quality players here still and that always leads to speculation like that.”
Newly promoted Burnley were linked with Duff earlier in the summer but boss Owen Coyle dismissed the talk two months ago.
The fee is said to be £4M and if that’s true we would expect Damien to be moved out, probably before Saturday’s game. since that offer is very close to the £5M we paid Chelsea for the player 3 years ago.
It looks like owner Mike Ashley is willing to decimate the squad and sell players, with nobody controlling who can go and who will come in to rep-lace them. And this guy is supposed to be an intelligent businessman? W don’t think so.
It’s a disgraceful state of affairs at any football club, especially at Newcastle.
And notice we still have left the players we really would have liked to unload this summer. like Xisco, Geremi, Coloccini, Barton and Gutierrez.
Comments welcome.
76 responses so far ↓
1 NorthernPaul // Aug 14, 2009 at 12:14 AM
I’m kind of numb, like I have been for two years now.
Watching the club crumble away to nothing.
There is no light at the end of the tunnel, and I honestly think it’s going to get worse.
I’ll always support my NUFC, but I honestly wish I didn’t. I wish I could leave it behind, and move on to a different team.
I love my club, and to see it die of a slow cancer called Mike Ashley is killing me.
2 chuck // Aug 14, 2009 at 12:16 AM
Guess this means no sale , in which case MA is about to unload the highly compensated players
to reduce the wage bill.
A least those saleable.
Expect St.James`s to become a bargain basement untill the window closes.
3 HarryWorth // Aug 14, 2009 at 12:41 AM
Duff to Fulham, Stevie Taylor to Everton blah blah…..
If these latest stories are true and Ashley keeps asset stripping and not replacing any players and you decide to keep giving him your money in the belief that you are a proper fan, you need to see a shrink.
A mass boycott will be THE only solution to get rid of this horrible bastard Ashley.
Dont tell me that boycotting the Toon will knacker the club out because if YOU , THE FANS dont do anything to get rid of Ashley, you wont have a team left to support anyway.
He is fukking the club over big time now and is leaving the club with very few experienced players. Relegation to division 1 is his intention m if you cant see this you need to go to Specsavers.
GIVE HIM YOUR MONEY BY ALL MEANS BUT DONT START CRYING WHEN HE FOOKS YOU OVER ONE LAST TIME and THE TOON GET RELEGATED BECAUSE OF BEING ASSETT STRIPPED…..
4 sirjasontoon // Aug 14, 2009 at 12:58 AM
As expected…like vultures around a warm carcass.
Ashley will stay…Admin will follow after the assets are stripped.
Duff is plop anyway so won’t lose any sleep over him.
5 baro // Aug 14, 2009 at 1:30 AM
Fulham are the team reportedly after him.
6 baro // Aug 14, 2009 at 1:31 AM
http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/120505/Duff-target-for-Fulham/
They got Viduka just recently.
7 baro // Aug 14, 2009 at 1:33 AM
I hope Damien Duff doesn’t leave. But if he does Shane Ferguson is up or i hope we buy Per Ciljan Skjelbred or Erik Huskelupp
8 Aussie Magpie Fan // Aug 14, 2009 at 2:02 AM
I know things are tough at the moment, tougher than I can ever remember or loathed to imagine. But… Look at the positives from this (there are not too many).
Have a look at who is leaving.. All of the over paid sh*te players that we have had the displeasure of watching for the past 2 – 3 years. Appart from Bassong and Beye, I would not mind seeing any of them go. We had one of the highest wage bills in the PL last year and It couldn’t go on like it was. It was tearing the club apart. Each year MA was having to juggle the clubs revenue to try and cover the clubs debts. And for all of those who keep commenting on how Mike Ashley just pockets all of the money that he makes from player transfers “GIVE ME A BREAK!!” If you owed the bank 1million dollars and you sold a personal asset for 500K, what would you do with the money??. Going by some peoples opinions on this site, you would pocket it and leave your debt as it stands! Would you f*ck. You would put it toward your debt owed and try and get back into the black.
Everyone keeps saying what a sh*te business man MA is. To me he is doing the dirty work that previous owners should of done years ago. It has cost us a spot in the PL and I can’t stand to watch it now that we are no longer in it. But, if we can keep a few older heads in our team and use the youth we have, I think we can make a real crack at promotion this year. The championship is not as hard as the PL. Everyone keeps talking about how tough it is… Come on, Man U at Old Trafford is tough.. If Mike Ashley stays, I won’t mind. At least you know he is not interested in puting an insurmountable amount of debt on the clubs books so he can buy a trophey. This a rebuilding year. To rebuild something you need to start at the bottom and work your way up. I’ll keep supporting the team no matter who is in charge or who owns the club.
9 Sav // Aug 14, 2009 at 2:15 AM
Those Norwegians would probably cost about the same as we get for Duffer, so it won’t happen. We are clearly looking for loans and frees only unless a new owner comes in.
£4 million is a decent price for a 30- year old with a history of injuries but I’ll be sorry to see another player of skill and intelligence leaving.
I’m hoping a sale of Duff (if it happens) signals two things – first, that the club should now be available even cheaper and second, that this is FatAsh just putting more local pressure on Moat to make his move as we fans naturally get peed off with watching him dismantle this wreck of a football club.
10 Sav // Aug 14, 2009 at 2:24 AM
I reckon that will make around £25 million in further transfer profit, plusthe wage bill has been further reduced by Owen, Viduka, Cacapa and Lovenkrands leaving on frees.
- Surely that should reduce the value/asking price on the club by the same amount. If Ash hopes to get his money back by a Championship push, even he has to realise its going to cost significant reinvestment in the squad.
Does he really want to do that? I reckon he’s getting ready to take Moat’s best offer for a club.
Pete Townsend used to treat his guitar better than this fat fool treats his own club. The man is rich scum; classless, friendless, tasteless and clueless.
11 MacToon // Aug 14, 2009 at 2:29 AM
Don’t think it’s the fee that’s the issue with the likes of Duff but his wage. Could probably get 2 or 3 good players for a similar wage, maybe like some of those mentioned as coming to the club already.
Cheap alternatives, that’s what our owner has led us to.
Who’d choose to be a fan of NUFC if they had the choice! It’s so depressing and no light at the end of the tunnel yet……
Duff though seemed to be one that atleast tried but it is a good deal@ £4 million but only if these players are going to be replaced somehow.
12 Alanmc09 // Aug 14, 2009 at 3:32 AM
If duff goes we will be in trouble!
Being from ireland duff is a player i hold with high regard and respect!
COME ON ASHLEY SELL UP YOU FAT C***
13 davis_toons // Aug 14, 2009 at 3:59 AM
Hi Guys,
In this current situation, i think is best that we just let Ashley do whatever he want,
1) Dnt appoint manager WHY?
There is lots of reason to it. One of them was manager controling the sale of “better players”.
2) Let Ashely recover back some losses. Then we can HOPE either he will rebuit the team or interested buyer will have a chance for a takeover til to the lower wages incur now.
We shall ALL see. What is ASSLY is going to do.
14 davis_toons // Aug 14, 2009 at 4:07 AM
Like what KK have said beefore. There’s still always lots of seashells on the beach. We’ll never finish picking them.
Duffy good luck to you. I just hope if the news was true, we can fetch a high price from this sale.
15 chestnut // Aug 14, 2009 at 4:13 AM
Duff leaving is a big loss.. an intenational player, hard working, used to the premier league style, etc etc. an irreplaceable in the championship. i dont want to sound like an ashley supporter.. but what the heck has the guy done to suddenly rise everyone against him? what precisely is it? is i because the club was relegated?.. if we had no player of calibre, i can accept the crap ashley excuse, but the players were the ones “directly” responsible for losing every single game they played. Is it because teh team had no game plan, hence losing every single game they played? .. that is the job of the previous managers to sort out, not crap ashley.. so the blame lies squarely on kinnear and shearer! the blame is also on the egoistic keegan who had no patience with himself, unlike kinnear who could work well alongside the hated ex-director of football. Alan shearer is no god, he is human just like you and me. he makes mistakes too, and he made plenty during his 8 games stint. ACCEPT THAT AS A FACT. Ashley was hailed as toon saviour after he bought out shepherd and hall family. now because all these so-called geordie “messiahs” failed miserably, the toons are trying to put the blame on anyone but the “messiahs”. so there is no one else on the block except poor crap ashley. My real prediction (which always comes true) is if another messiah such as shearer is appointed as manager, any failure in the future would not be blamed on him or his players, but the owner. If i was a potential buyer of a football club, i would not even consider owning newcastle utd unless ..
16 chestnut // Aug 14, 2009 at 4:18 AM
consider why sir bobby robson was sacked after he took a useless side to 4th, 3rd, and 5th. the answer is the toon likes to side with the wrong side. shearer was not the key to gaining top 4 positions, sir bobby robson was the key. ACCEPT THAT AS FACT! no player, no matter how good he is can override his manager. LEARN FROM MANCHESTER UTD for a change. then this crap football team can go somewhere, anywhere.
17 ginkoh // Aug 14, 2009 at 4:23 AM
I think Duff has enough quality to beat any defender in CCC, If we want to promote this season he will be our important member. not just because our thin squad but his skill also.
Unless we can bring some new players, we should not let anyone go now (except Shola, Geremi, Colo and Xisco)
18 chestnut // Aug 14, 2009 at 4:33 AM
Ed,
instead of continuing to write an asheley hate blog, why don’t you start a “shearer should not be toon manager” blog .. you know, as a precaution. in the long run, the club will benefit.
19 chestnut // Aug 14, 2009 at 4:37 AM
Ed,
Have you ever thought why ashley doesn’t want shearer as manager? why don’t you start a blog to discuss whether the majority of toon fans want shearer as manager. you can start an online voting system.
20 Duffman // Aug 14, 2009 at 4:49 AM
Chestnut, add an Allen Shearer in his prime to last years squad and we finish mid table. Yes, an elite striker means that much. N’Zogbia would have been a Toon legend should a striker of Shearer’s class been on the end of those crosses, instead of an Owen who looked worthless for Man U against Chealsie, or the abominable Ameobi.
21 Rangerman // Aug 14, 2009 at 6:31 AM
He’s supposed to be on £70k per week and he’s in the final year of his contract, we would be mad not to sell.
He will need replacing though.
22 Stuart79 // Aug 14, 2009 at 6:54 AM
http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/120495/EXCLUSIVE-Fit-again-Kinnear-is-back-in-Toon
Ah well if this is true my seat is to be empty!
23 magforlife // Aug 14, 2009 at 7:14 AM
Everton have bid 8m for Taylor according to BBC gossip column
24 magforlife // Aug 14, 2009 at 7:16 AM
With all the outgoings and no incomings apart from the spectre of JFK not only is Ashley aiming for an empty dressing room, he is going for an empty stadium as well.
25 Ericles // Aug 14, 2009 at 7:18 AM
Everton bid 8m for Steven Taylor, Wolves and Fulham after Duff. This means that other clubs recognise Ashley is a lunatic owner and is only interested in selling NUFC players prior to unloading a devastated club. So the result will be that the barrow boy will sell Taylor and Duff. It is not all media bollocks – up to you Taylor, up to you Duff. What is the going rate for loyalty boys?
26 Stuart79 // Aug 14, 2009 at 7:24 AM
We can’t ask the players for loyalty when the stadium will be half full tomorrow.
Also if Ashley stays and brings back JFK I won’t be there either so I cannot blame em or going!
27 magforlife // Aug 14, 2009 at 7:27 AM
Taylor is the only player from last season i would have kept, the others deserve to be sold but having said that i am deeply concerned that the door is swinging one way only.
Yes the wage bill needs to be reduced but this transfer policy must be being conducted by a non football person, no one in their right mind would weaken an already paper thin squad.
They just wont listen to anyone, they were warned last season about squad shortages but took no notice and look what happened, what a bunch of wankers.
28 magforlife // Aug 14, 2009 at 7:28 AM
Taylor is the only player from last season i would have kept, the others deserve to be sold but having said that i am deeply concerned that the door is swinging one way only.
Yes the wage bill needs to be reduced but this transfer policy must be being conducted by a non football person, no one in their right mind would weaken an already paper thin squad.
They just wont listen to anyone, they were warned last season about squad shortages but took no notice and look what happened, what a bunch of tossers.
29 Stardust // Aug 14, 2009 at 7:39 AM
Chestnut – I have stated the same for a year. But too many will not listen – they just want their messiahs and feel they should run the club -but then they criticise a man who does as they wish when it doesnt work out. So all we end up with is a viscous circle of unfounded hatred, the fans should look at themselves first and foremost.
But that being said – I want resolution to our future right now – whatever it is.
30 Ericles // Aug 14, 2009 at 7:42 AM
Other clubs now see NUFC along the same lines as a high street charity shop – bargains going cheap. Other clubs realise how incompetent Ashley is and they are moving in for the kill. I think Taylor will want to stay but Duff? The lure of premiership football beckons. I suppose the Ashley embargo on in and outs went into the saloon spittoon as well?
31 davis_toons // Aug 14, 2009 at 7:43 AM
As the club is in this state. I would say truthfully I WOULD NOT MIND IF MOST 1ST TEAM PLAYERS WERE SOLD in a resonable price.
With money in hand, there will be new players coming in for sure.
And, any manager, will call for new players.
32 magforlife // Aug 14, 2009 at 7:50 AM
davis-toons – what if the incoming players are on loan from the likes of spurs, do you want our club to be an academy for London clubs?
33 gloryhunter // Aug 14, 2009 at 7:55 AM
I’ve been on holiday for two years
. I ‘returned’ yesterday and look forward to some continuing correspondence.
34 JinkyGenius // Aug 14, 2009 at 8:02 AM
Chestnut & Stardust: It is proving impossible to find any ‘fans’ site which deals in constructive and intelligent appraisal of an increasingly unacceptable situation. The Ashley-haters just bring out the worst in the bloke, compounding the miserable string of decisions he has made over the last 12 months, and probably longer. He has no love for the club, or its supporters, why should he – he has lost a fortune on this venture? He’ll take the club down with him if he must, that seems to be the mentality of the man.
In all this time there has been no attempt at real bridge building, only vitriol. He is NOT going to appoint Shearer for any number of reasons and it would appear at this moment in time that Barry Moat has as big a mouth as Billy the Bass, his bid seems predicated on hopes and dreams rather than hard cash. If he can’t raise the money to buy the club, how can invest the 50 million or so needed to mount a serious promotion push – assuming he had the time left. What makes him a good chairman anyway, because he is mates with Shearer?
The only common ground between MA and supporters is a joint dread of remaining in the CCC. This should have shocked both sides into a pact of convenience if nothing else. In June and July I believed the best chance of getting out of the mess was a PAX-NUFC; Ashley receiving the backing of the fans and a united front to allow the club to make serious decisions. If Ashley doesn’t want Shearer, fans must respect that and move on. I don’t want Shearer either, and I was born up the road from him!
In the resulting mess we will end up with a hopeless compromise foisted on the club by a bitter Ashley, instead of sensible experienced candidate (it should have been Steve Bruce, he put out enough hints). There is a saying that struggling sheep drown one another – nowhere have the sheep been so intent on this collective suicide than at NUFC.
35 batty // Aug 14, 2009 at 8:09 AM
chestnut crawl back into your shell you arse wipe
36 batty // Aug 14, 2009 at 8:10 AM
why do people keep saying JFK
37 batty // Aug 14, 2009 at 8:11 AM
dus it stand for joe fckin kinnear
38 magforlife // Aug 14, 2009 at 8:11 AM
Jinkygenius – Ashley apologised to the fans before and promised to listen and put things right, he is a liar.
He has hidden all summer behind a NDA whilst plotting and scheming in the background to take the club further into the mire, he has no credibility left.
All bridges have been burnt with the current regime as they have had ample opportunity to put the club back on track but continue to wreck this beloved club of ours.
39 Stardust // Aug 14, 2009 at 8:19 AM
Jinky Genius – great post.
Unfortunately objectivity doesn’t go down too well with the collective – they are smashing their own houses up and blaming someone else for “making” them do it.
40 sirjasontoon // Aug 14, 2009 at 8:20 AM
Taylor to Everton….the sale is hotting up nicely as expected. I feel lucky though because we have JK waiting in the wings to save our sorry backsides.
How bad is this going to get…we are in ruins.
41 sirjasontoon // Aug 14, 2009 at 8:25 AM
Jinky Steve Bruce wouldn’t last 5 minutes at Newcastle.
The football his sides produce is dull and one dimensional,my best mate is a birmingham season ticket holder and has seen the Bruce style of football first hand over several seasons and it aint pretty-Trust Me.
42 sirjasontoon // Aug 14, 2009 at 8:35 AM
Stardust…go easy fella people are in a bit of a state right now about the club and the pain has dragged on since our inevitable implosion and demise into a fizzy pop team….That is a hell of alot of simmering.
Mike has made many inexcusable decisions during his time at the club…but I think you and I know that he is going nowhere but leading the club into administration.
43 Tyler Durden // Aug 14, 2009 at 8:39 AM
To all those muppets who blame the fans – give it a rest – their only crime is to support the club – Ashley had the perfect situation in Keegan but blew it and has since had ample opportunity to rectify the situation but has lurched from one disaster to the next.
Any manager will be given a chance as they always have and always will but to have this charade going on all summer is beyond ridiculous – as for the Man u supporter u sound like an arrogant plastic who has no idea about anything and likes to pontificate your bullshit to anyone willing to listen – you are pathetic
44 Stardust // Aug 14, 2009 at 8:45 AM
SJT – we will go nowhere near administration.
Lets hope for resolution today – just reading some of the links people posted last night re the betting – I see Vialli and Kinnear are suspended.
I personally would be very happy with Vialli – JK ruled himself out on health grounds. Lets see what the day brings.
45 komfort // Aug 14, 2009 at 8:47 AM
stuart79 @24 , 100% mate…if uncle joe shows his face me neither … in fact if they were playing in the back garden i’d pull the curtians….
46 lesh // Aug 14, 2009 at 8:49 AM
Just tried to open Stuart79’s link to the JFK artcile in the Express and the system crashed!
And this is how a highly sophisticated and protected system reacts to the news – it clearly doesn’t want to know!
Speaking of the absurd, I see Sawdust’s found a soul mate in Jinky Genius…… Ashley’ll be delighted that there’s a 100% increase in his popularity!!!
47 magforlife // Aug 14, 2009 at 8:51 AM
Stardust – you have to be a WUM or on heavy medication because if not, you are blowing very heavily out of your backside.
48 lesh // Aug 14, 2009 at 8:51 AM
Re Duffer, it seems that Everton are likely to come in for Steven Taylor.
Great work Mike…. you’re getting there!
49 Stardust // Aug 14, 2009 at 8:53 AM
Come join us Lesh – I know you want to.
50 belfast toon // Aug 14, 2009 at 8:53 AM
I love this guy jinky did you swallow a dictionary this morning. You must be the only toon fan alive who is not an Ashley hater. His time at our club has been nothing short of a disaster the man is pathetic
51 Stuart79 // Aug 14, 2009 at 8:58 AM
I can’t remember anyone on this blog actually wanted Ashley to appoint Keegan or even sack Alladyce.
Ashley hasn’t done what the fans wanted, he has done whathe thinks the fans wanted. Instead of doing what’s right for the club he’s tried to be popular! Idiot!
Who said earlier that they would be happy to see the whole first team sold?
Do you actually think Ashley is going to invest another penny this football club?
I’m telling you this arrogant twat will take us down yet another division.
He will sell a lot more players before 1st Sept and we won’t bring anymore in!
Recipe for:
RELEGATION!
But he’ll still keep hold of the club because he’s a stubborn cu*t who I would love to coin a phrase from Stardust ’smash his face in’!
52 bozo // Aug 14, 2009 at 8:59 AM
Stardust just admit it you are always wrong. I said the club would not be sold it has not been sold I said kinnear would be back as manager that remains to be seen but its still the most likley outcome. You are just a fool your posts have no validity.
53 magforlife // Aug 14, 2009 at 8:59 AM
I know they are hiding behind the infamous NDA but whats to stop our MD Lambias speaking to the fans via the media to either deny or confirm some of the reports.
He could also state what the short term plan is, he has no problem giving off the record briefings to the likes of David Craig of SSN but why are they obsessed with conducting all their business in a cloud of secrecy?
54 bill // Aug 14, 2009 at 9:00 AM
Stardust:
I think that you are on another planet from the rest of us. Fans haven’t done anything but support their club. Fans have not sacked managers, handcuffed managers, told lies, made ridiculous appointments.
The person that has ruined our club is Mike Ashley. Whether he intended to do this or not , he is the one responsible for it. Not only last season but he has continued this close season to compound his errors by letting so many players go without replacing any of them.
If you stand with Mike Ashley I’m afraid you are not a Newcastle United supporter.
55 magforlife // Aug 14, 2009 at 9:02 AM
Suart79 – i would happily see all last seasons team sold except for Taylor, they dont deserve to stay at the club.
But, only if they are replaced and thats not happening.
56 Stuart79 // Aug 14, 2009 at 9:05 AM
http://www.journallive.co.uk/nufc/newcastle-united-news/2009/08/14/newcastle-united-belatedly-move-into-market-61634-24441113/
If this is true and it’s a big IF wouldn’t it just some Mike Ashkey and Derek Llambias up?
Let Chis Hughton bring players in then appoint a new manager.
Totally Ashley regime!
57 Stuart79 // Aug 14, 2009 at 9:08 AM
http://www.journallive.co.uk/nufc/newcastle-united-news/2009/08/14/newcastle-united-belatedly-move-into-market-61634-24441113/
Does anyone know what’s goin on?
Moat confirms he’s trying to buy the club ?
Taylor off to Everton!
58 Stuart79 // Aug 14, 2009 at 9:08 AM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/championship/newcastleunited/6024208/Newcastles-talks-with-David-OLeary-break-down.html
Scrap the last link this is the one we want.
59 AussieToon // Aug 14, 2009 at 9:11 AM
I want to know, exactly where does Moat confirm anything?
These journo’s are deplorable, I thought the Aussie Journo’s were bad, these guys are pathetic!
60 punk skunk... // Aug 14, 2009 at 9:18 AM
I seem to remember tons of people wantin’ shot of Duff last season!?!..
61 punk skunk... // Aug 14, 2009 at 9:19 AM
Taylor will probably leave next season, if we don’t get up!?!..
62 ronaldeano // Aug 14, 2009 at 9:22 AM
Mike Ashley should be strung up and sprayed with human shit for what he has done and is continuing to do to our club.
Mass demonstrations is he dosent sell up methinks…
63 batty // Aug 14, 2009 at 9:28 AM
ronaldeano // ware have you been m8 just got oot of jail or sumit lol
64 Toonmania // Aug 14, 2009 at 9:30 AM
this is just getting riddiculas now, we need players in, there is only one thing ashley is trying to do and that is asset strip us bundle through until xmas then try to sell the club for about 50 million (still won’t get it and we will end up in administration) the bloke is a complete idiot, he made his money through dodgy deals in the first place and was lucky with the stock market, hopefully it will all backlash on him and he will file for bankcruptcy
65 Rodzilla // Aug 14, 2009 at 9:38 AM
Must admit, I’m suspicious about a 4M bid for a 30 year old injury prone winger.
It’s probably just his agent trying to drum up interest after he just scored a rare goal for his club. All agents are scum.
66 bozo // Aug 14, 2009 at 9:42 AM
Toonmania thats something like will happen. To be honest 50 million is probably what the club was worth at the start of the summer.
67 Toonmania // Aug 14, 2009 at 9:55 AM
i’ve been in business for nearly 30 years and i cannot comprehend the way MA does business it just stinks, there is something not right, no businessman would let an assest go like he has with this club unless there is an ulterior motive, and too be honest i think it all leads back to the fact he doesn’t want to spend anymore money, but doesn’t want anyone else to have it as that would show him up as bloody useless in the business world (although most won’t touch him now anyway) i someone was to come in like moat then the club could be turned around but he doesn’t want it to happen, he’s moved the goalposts to often for a deal to happen now
68 Tino 11 // Aug 14, 2009 at 10:00 AM
Stardust’s post have lost all credibility when he said “you can never ever teach positional sense”, he clearly is an intelligent man, who knows his finances, but he aint got a clue about football!
I often think he doesn’t actually support MA as much as he makes out, i think he does it because he enjoys everyone getting mad and posting stuff back at him.
If he really thinks the fans are to blame for relegation then he is an idiot. The protests lasted 2 games max, the rest of the season the supporters were 100% focused on supporting the team, yes they moaned and groaned and criticized but NO MORE THAN ANY OTHER BUNCH OF SUPPORTERS.
The players are professional footballers and our players and players at other teams have stated they do not let what happens off the pitch effect them on the pitch.
Liverpool, Man U supporters have all had large protests, did that get them relegated? No, beacuse it’s complete rubbish to even think it.
There is always a mob element of fans at every club, but they do not cause relegation. The players got the club relegated because they were unsettled by different managers coming in, poor training, and of course some just couldn’t be bothered. The players are to blame for this 1st, then MA for poor descisions and not investing a small amount at a crucial time for transfers.
Every person involved professionally in the football world has said the fans are not to blame in the slightest and that the players and the owner are to blame, these are the people we should be listening to.
69 ronaldeano // Aug 14, 2009 at 10:01 AM
@Batty
Ive been buisy moving house for a while mate, i baught 2 appartments on the beach in South shields.
Its fcuking great! like being on holliday!
70 Rodzilla // Aug 14, 2009 at 10:22 AM
Agree with your Toon thoughts Tino, another factor for our relegation though that people often overlook is the fact that we were ABSOLUTELY RAVAGED by injuries for more or less two thirds of the season, this blame, again, falls on Ashley’s head for not listening to his manager, players, fans, press etc etc et-bl00dy-c when it was blatantly obvious to all we were desperate on numbers and ridiculously lop-sided.
…and it’s happening again, I’m afraid!
71 JinkyGenius // Aug 14, 2009 at 11:38 AM
Sirjastoon: Steve Bruce succeeds in fashioning effective sides around limited resources. Sunderland will NOT be relegated this season. AND PLEASE, don’t talk about NUFC playing attractive football – those days have LONG GONE. We forfeited that right when we allowed the board to sack Sir Bobby, with many supporters and players actively supporting the decision, after 3 successive top 5 finishes and regular European football – and then replaced him with Sour-ness.
In the end WE got what we deserved, and that was Mike Ashley. Now live with it and watch the club crumble into ruins while trying to remember exactly what the reasons were for crucifying Sir Bobby in first place! NUFC supporters, you are in denial. This whole mess stemmed from that fateful day. It was Freddy Shepherd who sold this leaking club down the financial river, Ashley just happened to be the idiot who bought it before it ran aground.
A club always gets what it deserves, and a few years of sackcloth with banana yellow stripes in CCC obscurity might at last cause folks to wake up to facts. It’s not just the Cockney mafia that did it for NUFC, although tthey sure did help it along, but a one much closer to Leazes Park. There is no easy way out of the CCC, and I would have bet my shirt on Bruce having got the club back into the Premiership a damn site quicker than Shearer would have. Unfortunately for NUFC, we will never know now. Now I only hope Curbs or Stevie Coppell is sought out on bended knee before we are too far off the promotion pace. The thought of O’Leary and JFK individually or together is too much to bear – but not as much as this situation running on for another two weeks…
72 tommy boi // Aug 14, 2009 at 11:46 AM
Duff is a slow, old OAP winger. Very boring, he runs and runs then turns around and passes back. 4m! MA must accept as we only paid a small amount more to Chelski for him, to be fair i knew from when we signed him he was gonna be utter crap because Chelsea would not sell him if he was any good. Sell him, get 50-60k off the wages and give LuaLua a chance down the right flank…
73 bill // Aug 14, 2009 at 11:57 AM
From ManU web site:
Salford-born defender Danny Simpson has represented United at all levels since signing with the Reds’ Academy in July 2003.
The robust, tough-tackling full-back can play anywhere across the back, but has settled as a right-back in recent years, having honed his position during a host of successful loan deals.
‘Simmo’, as he is known around Carrington, climbed through the club’s youth ranks and represented Paul McGuinness’ under-18s before gradually establishing himself in the Reds’ successful Reserves team, playing a part in the 2004/05 quadruple and the 2005/06 treble triumphs.
Danny’s form earned him a loan move to Royal Antwerp in January 2006, where his impressive displays yielded a spot on the club’s 2006/07 pre-season tour of South Africa. With the route to senior opportunities still blocked by Gary Neville and Wes Brown, however, he rejoined Antwerp for another loan deal.
After returning in December 2006, Danny and team-mate Jonny Evans were snapped up to temporarily aid Roy Keane’s Sunderland in their push for the Premier League. Having played an integral role in taking the Black Cats up, Simmo was handed a United first team debut in September 2007.
74 Michael12 // Aug 14, 2009 at 2:32 PM
Another stimulating debate.
@Stuart79 post 51: That is not true. Ashley has done what the fans have wanted.
1. >Sack big Sam.
> Keegan was appointed at the behest of some fans.
2. >Fans called for Ashley to sell, he put the club up for sale.
3. >Fans called for Wise to be sacked, he was sacked.
4. >Fans called for Shearer, he was appointed.
5. > Fans called for Ashley to sell he put the club up again for sale.
Keegan was a ploy by Mike Ashley to keep the fans sweet while he undertook his five year transformation plan. He knew Newcastle fans were calling for success and success now and know how unfeasible it was then knew he needed someone against whom the fans would not turn despite how mediocre the football on display was.
A fan on this site once said and other concurred that a 14th place finish under Keegan would be better than a 7th place finish under Sam. What does this tell you? What can you deduce from that?
My deduction is that it is not performance that makes the fans happy but simply who is managing. This evidence is all over you have eyes and you know how to use them. They call for Shearer when he won 1 in 8 games and got us relegated and yet they want him.
@JinkyGenius: No one cuts their nose off to spite their face. Ashley would not waste money to hurt the fans but rather it works out better for him in this case. The fans want a managerial retard in Shearer, Ashley knows Shearer is managerially retarded so snubs him this in itself sears the fans and saves Ashley from further loss. Like anyone who losses in a gamble Ahsley will try to recover. either the sale goes through or he builds again this time on more prudent disciplined terms.
It hurts me as much as it will probably hurt you but I am prepared to be realistic, his biggest ever mistake was thinking the fans had anything worth listening to.
75 Michael12 // Aug 14, 2009 at 2:34 PM
Another stimulating debate.
@Stuart79 post 51: That is not true. Ashley has done what the fans have wanted.
1. >Sack big Sam.
> Keegan was appointed at the behest of some fans.
2. >Fans called for Ashley to sell, he put the club up for sale.
3. >Fans called for Wise to be sacked, he was sacked.
4. >Fans called for Shearer, he was appointed.
5. > Fans called for Ashley to sell he put the club up again for sale.
Keegan was a ploy by Mike Ashley to keep the fans sweet while he undertook his five year transformation plan. He knew Newcastle fans were calling for success and success now and know how unfeasible it was then knew he needed someone against whom the fans would not turn despite how mediocre the football on display was.
A fan on this site once said and other concurred that a 14th place finish under Keegan would be better than a 7th place finish under Sam. What does this tell you? What can you deduce from that?
My deduction is that it is not performance that makes the fans happy but simply who is managing. This evidence is all over you have eyes and you know how to use them. They call for Shearer when he won 1 in 8 games and got us relegated and yet they want him.
@JinkyGenius: No one cuts their nose off to spite their face. Ashley would not waste money to hurt the fans but rather it works out better for him in this case. The fans want a managerial retard in Shearer, Ashley knows Shearer is managerially retarded so snubs him this in itself sears the fans and saves Ashley from further loss. Like anyone who losses in a gamble Ahsley will try to recover. either the sale goes through or he builds again this time on more prudent disciplined terms.
It hurts me as much as it will probably hurt you but I am prepared to be realistic, his biggest ever mistake was thinking the fans had anything worth saying.
76 komfort // Aug 14, 2009 at 5:57 PM
fully fledged prick !!…
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