Update On Newcastle Sale And Players Still To Be Sold

Not too much new news in the Sunday papers today on the Newcastle sale.

mike ashley and barry moat

Mike, Barry and Derek at the game yesterday

Alan Oliver in the People says that Mike will make a decision on the sale this Friday and that David O’Leary is still a potential new manager, along with Steve Coppell and Alan Curbishley.

We’d like to see Steve Coppell manage the side if it’s not to be Alan Shearer.

Alan Oliver says that two consortia are still left but that neither of them is the Barry Moat consortia, which seems a bit strange.

We have to say we like the story in the Sunday Sun today, that says Barry Moat will join the Newcastle board while Mike keeps the club, but that Alan Shearer will come in as manager. That would be a good compromise, but probably wishful thinking from the local Sunday newspaper. It would be very interesting if there is any truth in that.

The News of The World is reporting that Mike Ashley is ready to launch a further cut of the Newcastle playing staff, and we expect that’s because the wage bill is still around £50M, which is at least £10M too much still.

The NOTW is reporting that Newcastle still want to a further £20M reduction in the wage bill, and that will mean more big-name departures.

Here’s how we have the transfers and wage bill, assuming Duff goes to Fulham.

Player	    Fee	   Wages    Wages
	    £M	   £K/week  £M/year

Owen	    0	   110	     5.7
Viduka	    0	   70	     3.6
Cacapa	    0	   50	     2.6
Edgar	    1	   10	     0.5
Bassong	    8	    7	     0.4
Duff	    4      65	     3.4
Beye	    3	   55	     2.9
Lovenkrands 0	   50	     2.6
Martins	    9	   70	     3.6

Totals	   25	  487	    25.3

New Wage Bill

(74-25.3) = £48.7M per year

Argentine defender Fabricio Coloccini is being lined up for a move to Galatasaray or with Serie A side Palermo, depending on who you want to believe.

West Ham and Wolves have targeted 20-year-old striker Andy Carroll, with Andy on offer at only £2.5M.

Attacker Jonas Gutierrez could move to Greece or Portsmouth, depending again on what news you believe.

And we had said a couple of days ago we should sign Peter Lovenkrands, because he would be good up front and gives us a different option from Carroll, Ameobi and Ranger, and it appears that Newcastle have recently held talks with him about a possible return. That’s good news if true.

The Danish striker scored three times after joining in January but was not offered a permanent deal when the season ended, which was a big surprise to us.

The players we don’t want to lose this season are Steven Taylor, Andy Carroll, Shola Ameobi Alan Smith, Danny Guthrie, Tim Krul, Steve Harper, Kevin Nolan, Ryan Taylor, Jose Enrique, Nicky Butt and all our talented youngsters.

And we need to bring in a left back, a couple of center backs, two wingers and an experienced striker.

Let’s hope all this gets sorted out while we continue to win games. 😀

Comments welcome.

59 comments so far

  • tdt

    Aug 16, 2009 at 1:13 PM

    Comment #1

    Sunday papers are always full of fiction, I never take any story on a sunday at face value, good or bad.

  • Here We Ngo Baheng

    Aug 16, 2009 at 1:18 PM

    Comment #2

    Alan Oliver knows bupkiss as always.

  • mylestoon

    Aug 16, 2009 at 1:27 PM

    Comment #3

    i disagree butt can go and he said he wanted to go. not good enough

  • nick_9

    Aug 16, 2009 at 1:33 PM

    Comment #4

    i seriously don’t understand what people see in nicky butt. we’ve already got younger players similar to him who will do a better job. out of guthrie, barton, smith, nolan and butt i would have butt fifth in the pecking order. people go on about his tackling but hasn’t alan smith proved he’s just as good and one hell of a lot faster than butt. not overly keen on ryan taylor either but i’d accept giving him more time. one player i do think we should have kept is david edgar, he looked a promising player.

  • Dan4Toon

    Aug 16, 2009 at 1:33 PM

    Comment #5

    Nothing that gets said in paper are true really but then SUNDAY papers well they are never true. Why would moat be there for any other reason a mean he was never sitting with them before so why now well its obvious, the deal is close

  • Rangerman

    Aug 16, 2009 at 1:43 PM

    Comment #6

    I said on here yesterday that I can remember talk earlier in the summer about Moat buying a share of the club off Ashley and running it for him.

  • 14

    Aug 16, 2009 at 1:44 PM

    Comment #7

    since when don’t we wanna lose smith & butt? 🙂

  • repo

    Aug 16, 2009 at 1:58 PM

    Comment #8

    Why would we re- sign Lovenkrands when he was on high wage as he prob want the same amount again..

    Same with sol campbell i bet he would be on around 70grand a week..

  • chuck

    Aug 16, 2009 at 2:01 PM

    Comment #9

    Here we go fire sale starts now !
    Gotta get the wage level down, looks like MA thought he could avoid the sale of players and leave that stuff to the new owner.
    Another mistake.
    Now we are approaching the close of the window, theres no sale and he can`t afford to meet the wage bill for the comming season.
    Ah well ! another gamble that has turned brown.
    Looks like he wants to get rid of everyone, hey it`s a way to reduce the bill, its also a way to the first division.
    Going to be interesting to see what exactly he has in mind, besides not spending and slowly piece by piece destroying the club.

  • AngerOfTheNorth

    Aug 16, 2009 at 2:19 PM

    Comment #10

    We CANNOT lose Steven Taylor… He’s perfect to drag us out of this league and will be brilliant for us if we get back into the Premiership. I can’t think of a better longterm captain either.

  • Jan Stavik

    Aug 16, 2009 at 2:30 PM

    Comment #11

    Lovenkrands on 50k a week? No way, he was on 20ish.

    As usual a rubbish sunday story…

  • Rangerman

    Aug 16, 2009 at 2:31 PM

    Comment #12

    Why would we re- sign Lovenkrands when he was on high wage as he prob want the same amount again..

    Same with sol campbell i bet he would be on around 70grand a week..


    Neither have got football clubs to start with, I’ve no idea what Lovenkrands was on when he was here before but looking at the lack of interest in signing him up I reckon he would jump at a £20k per week contract.

    Campbell is different as he doesn’t need to money, but some older players will drop down a division on a lower wage to get another year or two out of football just because they love the game and miss having something to do, he lives up this way now with his girlfriend so the chance to do something he enjoys for a few hours a day might appeal to him rather than watching This Morning.

  • JinkyGenius

    Aug 16, 2009 at 2:33 PM

    Comment #13

    Further to my earlier posts about indiscriminate selling, and the inevitable consequences. There is a key decision to be made here which depends on how Ashley / new owner answers the following:

    Is NUFC a Premier League club that has a wobble?

    If YES then we must hand onto special players despite the cost, not least to bring the spark of magic to wet November afternoons, scoring or making the winner in a drab encounter out of nowhere. To get out of the CCC you need to go for wins away from home whenever possible, not draws, and demand wins at home. It’s pure maths. The odd loss in 10 is neither here nor there as long as we win 6 or 7, but 6 or 7 useless draws will cost dearly.

    If NO, then sure sell the lot of them. We’ll never get out of the CCC, and lack of interest or ambition will consign us to league 1.


    Currently the present squad, Jonas and all, has a racing chance. Any more sales and NUFC is doomed to mid table. Campbell, is too bloody slow and a waste of wages. He is another past-it-pro like Owen wanting to cream off an unrealistic wage from a gullible club. He’ll be injured within the month, and then have his feet up for the rest of the season at the supporters’ expense.

    This is painful, truly painful, watching stupid mistakes being repeated… Some a**hole with a spreadsheet has come up with an arbitrary number, and another a**hole (the one with a spreading waistline) is daft enough to try and achieve it at any price…

  • marshy

    Aug 16, 2009 at 2:37 PM

    Comment #14

    I would like to see the back of butt,ameobi,smith and possibly r.taylor.it was reported in a paper last week that butt had made the most passes in the premiership last season,what it didn’t say was that most of them were to the opposition.also he is very slow,nearly as slow as ameobi.

  • ObaMartins

    Aug 16, 2009 at 2:51 PM

    Comment #15

    To be Honest i would Let Nolan and Ryan taylor leave…they are not worth there wages

  • dave 1961

    Aug 16, 2009 at 2:55 PM

    Comment #16

    one thing that could interest Campbell could be coaching, so player coach on 20k could be a good bet Taylor could learn loads from him, & I can see 2 ways it could go with Mike Ashley he could appoint shearer win some games and get hooked and decide to keep the club and invest, because with me I hate what he’s done to the club I don’t hate him (yet) things could still be turned around, or what he will probably do keep the club appoint kinnear & sell the player & get us relegated, just depends if he wants to be hero or Nero.

  • Rodzilla

    Aug 16, 2009 at 2:57 PM

    Comment #17

    Rangerman, Sol Campbell doesn’t watch This Morning. I have it on good information that he watches The Wright Stuff and Trisha Goddard on channel 5.

  • Johno Toon

    Aug 16, 2009 at 3:06 PM

    Comment #18

    i know it was only one game oba but i thought the two of them played very well yesterday so i would give them a chance

  • Big Dave

    Aug 16, 2009 at 3:07 PM

    Comment #19

    Rangerman I think you are right about Sol he knows the big money days are over and i dont think he is ruled by money i think he is just wanting something to keep him active and i would say he is probably interested in staying in the game as a coach and someday manager.

  • Danish_Magpie

    Aug 16, 2009 at 3:59 PM

    Comment #20

    Of our high wage earners, I’d most like to keep Alan Smith. He is leading the team well in these troubled times, and I am glad he told Beye and Bassong to bugger off of they didn’t care anymore. Duff is on HUGE wages, and while I like him, he is 30 and needs to go. Barton is a terrible person, so if we get an offer of 3-4m for him, sell him. I actually think we have done a pretty good job getting decent fees for our players despite relegation, Duff 4m, Bassong 8-12m, Oba 8m etc. those are fair prices.

    Lineup as follows:



    R. Taylor…Guthrie…Smith..LuaLua


    would be fine by me with.

    I would REALLY like to get rid of Geremi who I think is terrible.

    Get rid of Coloccini, Geremi, Jonas (unfortunately – I like him), Butt (depending on his attitude), and Barton. Keep the rest, and bring in a few more loan signings. Then, if we scrape by and get promotion, we will have to go out and invest heavily, but we will have a clean slate.

  • Tanzy

    Aug 16, 2009 at 4:21 PM

    Comment #21

    players a would bring into newcastle this season
    Danny Simpson Loan Manchster United
    Peter Ramage £500k Q.P.R
    Mark Beevers £2m Sheffield Wed
    Micheal Ball Free
    Kris Commons £3.5m Derby County
    Aaron Gunnarson £4m Coventry City
    Jermaine Beckford £2m Leeds United
    Simeon Jackson £1.5m Gilingham
    Gary Mcsheffrey Loan Birmimngham
    Chris Killen Loan Celtic
    Sol Campbell Free
    Peter Lovenkrands Free
    Per Cijan Stiljbred £6m
    Total = £ 14m 14 Players

    Players Out
    obefemi Martins £9m Wolfsburg
    Micheal Owen Free Manchester Utd
    Mark Viduka Free
    Claudio Cacapa Free
    Peter Lovenkrands Free
    David Edgar Free Burnley
    Sebastien Bassong £8m Tottenham
    Damien Duff £4m Fulham
    Habib Beye £3m Aston Villa
    i also think these will leave the club
    Gerimi £2m Cologne
    Xisco £1.5m Lazio
    Jonas Gutierez £4m Galatasteray
    Fabrico Coloccini £3m Seville
    Nicky Butt £1.5m Wolves
    Jose Enrique £4m Valencia
    Total = £40m 15Players

    My Newcastle Team

    Simpson S.Taylor Campbell Ramage

    Commons Stiljbred Smith Gunnarson

    Beckford Carroll

    Ameobi , Krul , Lua -Lua , Beevers , Barton , R.Taylor , Ranger

  • Rodzilla

    Aug 16, 2009 at 5:25 PM

    Comment #22

    …Bassong scores with a header on his debut.

    Makes me fkn sick.

  • Rodzilla

    Aug 16, 2009 at 5:27 PM

    Comment #23

    …btw Tanzy, your INS total cost falls 5.5m short, and there’s 13 players there, not 14.

    Do you want a job at NUFC? 😉

  • waddler

    Aug 16, 2009 at 6:03 PM

    Comment #24

    l would like to know who recommended Simpson to us and why his temporary transfer was sanctioned.
    It looks to me as if a deal has been or nearly completed between Moat and Ashley were Ashley can lower the wage bill with all these transfers down to a point were Moat can buy the club. £100 million – £25 million = £75 million .
    This would also have to be done with the consent of Moat and probably Shearer as long as quality loan players are brought in to maintain the teams quality, for example Simpson and a few others mentioned from Tottenham and Watford and Sol Cambell.
    We may even see some kind of partnership between Moat and Ashley as long as Ashley’s plan which was never properly explained to the fans is followed. That plan was to develop the Academy and youth team set ups and trawl the world for top youngsters, which is absolutely the right way to build our club.
    Ashley made many mistakes, he probably lied to Keegan and told him he hade total control of the transfer budget when in fact Wise had that role, Ashley wants a continental style were a manager is coaching the team only with only a part say in who is bought and sold player wise.
    He should have drummed the message youth, youth, youth into the supporters al the time but of course his communication system was practically non-existant.
    He may now see the chance of his outline sketch turn into a blueprint which can be built with professionals like Shearer and Moat if he provide and agrees to this long term plan.
    For this to work we must have a good communicator as chairman, its vital, and we the supporters must view it as a long term project and be patient.
    Lets hope peace can be achieved and solid foundations layed, if l see this happening l will forgive Ashley his almost unforgiveable actions as owner and hope he becomes a better and wiser man for his redemption.

  • mickvic

    Aug 16, 2009 at 6:24 PM

    Comment #25

    BUTT MUST GO- A major problemf rom last season- he has history, he went on loan to Birmingham many years ago and took them down, he has now taken us down, and Birmingham didn’t even want him in the Championship. Marks against Shearer as manager when he continued to play Butt and in the Fulham game, subbed Guthrie rather than Butt- mmmmmm.
    We need a manager so we can have brave decisions like playing Krul in place of Harper; sentiment I’m afraid has no place in a fight for promotion; once again Harper fails to dominate box, and continues to stand on the line for corners, and flap. Keep Krul

  • mickvic

    Aug 16, 2009 at 6:29 PM

    Comment #26

    p.s. Ramage??? Typical unrealistic geordie sentiment

  • buda boom

    Aug 16, 2009 at 7:04 PM

    Comment #27

    Ed you are a bigger clown than I ever thought you were if you think the signing of peter lovenkrands would be good for newcastle united. Stop and ask ask yourself why nobody has signed him in the window already. The answer is he is crap.
    The two argies can go and would not be missed add to that the awful Geremi and the carthorse Kevin Nolan and that is the problem solved.
    Young Carroll will be on a pittance compared to these guys and would make no difference to the finances. He is a must keep as is Taylor because they belong to the club.

  • NICK C

    Aug 16, 2009 at 7:07 PM

    Comment #28

    I’d have a bash at Aaron Hughes. He has just had an offer on a house near to me in NE3, but I believe its cos his Mrs wants to have a pied de terre in Newcastle.

  • buda boom

    Aug 16, 2009 at 7:10 PM

    Comment #29

    Sorry but add to that list of sales Butt and Harper both are too old no hunger no desire only happy in picking up a pay cheque late in their careers. The danger of the culling of the squad is when promoted a massive amount somewhere around 50 million is going to be required to survive in the premier league.
    Is that sort of spend going to be possible.
    The early indications are the is a huge gulf between fizzy pop league and premier league must be if the smoggies can beat one of last years better sides 3 – 0

  • M.Stockley

    Aug 16, 2009 at 7:22 PM

    Comment #30

    buda boom-i think thats a bit unfair about harps….he does care, i dont think hes just in it for the pay cheques. im unsure hes a number 1 though as much as i like the bloke
    butt is cack hether he is a mercenary or not i agree he must go… id wanna keep tayls, enrique,carroll,smith without fail… smith’s leadership has been excellent

  • Rodzilla

    Aug 16, 2009 at 7:50 PM

    Comment #31

    We’re desperately short of a winger. Someone to cross balls in to our giant strikers. I’d say play Ryan Taylor at RW, and if Jonas is off to Portsmouth I’d DEFINITELY snap up Judith Chalmers from Dunfermline on a free.

  • punk skunk...

    Aug 16, 2009 at 7:51 PM

    Comment #32

    Good shout Rodz!..

  • punk skunk...

    Aug 16, 2009 at 7:53 PM

    Comment #33

    We’ll be desperately short of a RB then tho’!..

  • Rodzilla

    Aug 16, 2009 at 7:58 PM

    Comment #34

    Punk, no problem, I’ve heard through the grapevine that Richard Madeley has been house-hunting on Seaton Delaval. Job done.

  • Rodzilla

    Aug 16, 2009 at 7:59 PM

    Comment #35


  • Rodzilla

    Aug 16, 2009 at 8:06 PM

    Comment #36

    My (realistic) team for a successful assault on the Coca Cola Championship 09/10:

    ……………………………Fern Britton……………………

    Richard Madeley…Trevor Macdonald….Trisha Goddard….Derek Jacobi

    Sue Barker……Ronnie Barker…..Ron Perlman……Les Dennis

    Lenny Henry………Lee Evans

    ….it’s a winner!

  • buda boom

    Aug 16, 2009 at 8:10 PM

    Comment #37

    I cannot see spidey going anywhere near Pompey. They are in a worse mess than us if that is at all possible.
    We all know that this ownership fiasco cannot run any longer. He sells or god forbid he stays. If he stays I cannot imagine what our future will be

  • Rodzilla

    Aug 16, 2009 at 8:12 PM

    Comment #38

    …aye, anar Derek Jacobi is gerin on a bit, but his link-up play with the youthful Les Dennis could be the masterstroke.

    Sue Barker (as everyone knows) is Ronnie’s twin brother so perfect communication there. Also, the on/off affair between the been well documented pair of Trevor MacDonald and Trisha Goddard would pretty much GUARANTEE us clean sheets for the rest of the season.

    ….why aren’t I manager of NUFC!?! Jeeziz, some people are so thick.

  • buda boom

    Aug 16, 2009 at 8:19 PM

    Comment #39

    Xisco is another one who should be ushered out has had limited opportunities but does not look a united player

  • magpie6699

    Aug 16, 2009 at 8:38 PM

    Comment #40

    Rodzilla – what are you on?
    Anyone with a bit of nous would know you HAVE to pair Dale Winton with Lenny Henry up front!


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