Let’s Hope Newcastle Mess Sorted By Wednesday


Newcastle fans should know this week, hopefully by Wednesday, whether Mike Ashley will remain in charge of the club. or whether Barry Moat is the new owner with Alan Shearer as manager.

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Alan Shearer – should know very soon

Not too much new news this morning yet on the ownership soap opera at Newcastle.

Moat and Ashley sat next to each other on Saturday in a show of solidarity to Barclay’s Bank, in the hopes that Moat will indeed get the OK from the bank for a loan that will help buy the club and also provide some investment for new players.

The Newcastle Journal is reporting this morning that Moat, if he gets the OK from the bank for the loan, will execute a plan that will see Alan Shearer appointed manager in time for the tough game at Crystal Palace this coming Saturday – and provide him with assurances that his squad will not be further depleted.

There are also reports there will be extensive player recruitment, in the short time left in the transfer window, although it appears that Newcastle are on the verge of completing the signing of free agent center-back Sol Campbell this week, regardless of whether Shearer is manager.

That tells us that from a player’s viewpoint Newcastle is still an attractive proposition, even with all the nonsense that’s gone on this season.  A good crowd of  36, 944 on Saturday was bigger than expected, and the biggest crowd this season in the Championship.

If Moat fails with his loan bid, Ashley will take the club off the market, and the owner will further reduce the wage bill at the club, by selling more players. This will be to improve the look of the financial books at the club for a possible sale later on, either in January or next summer.

Mike will  likely sell both Steven Taylor and Jonas Gutierrez before the end of the transfer window, and if he can unload the likes of Geremi, Xisco  and Coloccini they will go too.

And as we revealed last night,  Steven Taylor is on the verge of leaving his home town club for Everton – with some reports even suggesting he will take his medical today, but surely Steven will wait a few days to see if Alan Shearer will be taking over.

And down south Joe Kinnear has been telling friends he will indeed be the new manager later this week, if Ashley is still in charge.  Joe talks a lot, (as most Irishmen do),  but we believe Ashley still has other management options, and David O’Leary is still in with a good chance.

Let’s hope this ridiculous soap opera ends by Wednesday, at the latest, so we at least know the direction in which the club will be going.

We hope Alan is in charge come Saturday, and then we’ll at least know we can look forward to a Steven Taylor – Sol Campbell central partnership in this Championship season.

Also new players coming in should include the likes of Jermaine Beckford (Leeds) and Norwegian Per Ciljan Skjelbred, and of course we’d expect Joey Barton to be on his way.

Comments welcome.



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98 comments so far

  • lesh

    Aug 17, 2009 at 9:37 AM

    Comment #1

    Joe Kinnear’s behavour is most unprofessional and it really ought to stop, be stopped or denied in no uncretain terms by the club.

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  • batty

    Aug 17, 2009 at 9:40 AM

    Comment #2

    ED before people start slagging you just like to say think your spot on with this 1 mate

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  • batty

    Aug 17, 2009 at 9:42 AM

    Comment #3

    ayr lesh your right but what do u think aboot warnock moanin agen

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  • RyanToon

    Aug 17, 2009 at 9:43 AM

    Comment #4

    Lets hope its sorted today!

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  • Rangerman

    Aug 17, 2009 at 9:44 AM

    Comment #5

    So Moat has to go to the bank with his begging bowl because he hasn’t got the money to buy the club but he’s planning on making plenty of signings?

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  • WELSHMAG

    Aug 17, 2009 at 9:47 AM

    Comment #6

    Losing taylor and bassong has been harder than relegation.

    Add to the fact Ashely will be staying and getting rid of all our players, although we look like we could push for promotion the chances are very slim with Ashley at the helm.

    Bassong and taylor are two of the most promising defenders in the english league and guess what? we sold them for 16m?!? for f-uks sake man.

    And we’ve replaced them with a 34 year old injury prone defender.

    F**K YOU MIKE ASHLEY !!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • lesh

    Aug 17, 2009 at 9:50 AM

    Comment #7

    Batty, it seems Warnock had good reason to moan…. this time!

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  • premier

    Aug 17, 2009 at 9:50 AM

    Comment #8

    Only Wednesday that will sort NUFC this week are Sheff Wed

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  • NUFC-0809-Oh Dear

    Aug 17, 2009 at 9:50 AM

    Comment #9

    Taylor is set to hand in a tranfer request today

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  • belfast toon

    Aug 17, 2009 at 9:52 AM

    Comment #10

    Joe talks a lot, (as most Irishmen do) I’ve never been more offended in my life?
    How very dare you.

    Anyone know how reliable waddle is

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  • sahota

    Aug 17, 2009 at 9:58 AM

    Comment #11

    No one yet confirmed Taylor’s move yet. So we have to wait guys. I think if Moat is confident of buying the club and Alan Shear is waiting , I can not see Alan want Taylor leaving. I hate these news channels and papers who sometimes helps in these kind of moves. Even if player don’t want to , all these crap news etc helps turning around his head.

    I really hope 3 things this week:
    1. We win on WED . Thats most important
    2. Ashley is OUT by end of week
    3. New Manager IN and he buys some 4-5 news players to strengthen.

    It will be interesting to see if Shearer comes, what he does with Barton.

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  • komfort

    Aug 17, 2009 at 9:58 AM

    Comment #12

    the return of the space cowboy (jk) by friday…

    …maybe i’m gonna have to get high just to get by….

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  • Rangerman

    Aug 17, 2009 at 9:59 AM

    Comment #13

    Why would Moat and Ashley have to prove that they get on for him to borrow money from barclays to buy it from him?

    If you want to buy a house off someone you don’t have to take photos of yourself at that persons family bbq to show the bank manager that you all get on before he lends you the money.

    If it was for the benefit of the bank then I’d say it was because Moat wants money to buy in and work alongside Ashley, otherwise the bank wouldn’t care if the two hated each other as long as they could see they would get their money back.

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  • derekm

    Aug 17, 2009 at 9:59 AM

    Comment #14

    relegation came about as much about the rubbish on the pitch as off it – Steven Taylor for all his admirable love of the club has not improved as a defender over the last three years,
    bassong provided us with a major return for little investment, and both collocini and guitierrez have little or no real commitment to NUFC. The loss of many of the players who were simply not good enough for the premiership cannot be a bad thing – we are in a complete process of rebuilding and we are forced to cut our cloth accordingly. Sol cambell for me would give us ( if you can keep him fit ) the defensive organiser we have’nt had since Bob Moncur. A good solid centre half alongside him would do me just fine – as for the others that are potential sales – bring in the kids – we have the best crop for years.

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  • batty

    Aug 17, 2009 at 10:00 AM

    Comment #15

    komfort were u posting under another nick the other nite

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  • bill

    Aug 17, 2009 at 10:01 AM

    Comment #16

    Barclays may be providing a mortgage on the stadium which I think makes sense if you need to raise some funds to buy players. A mortgage can be structured over many years and Newcastle need funds to get back into the Premier League this season.

    Once promotion is gained it will be easier to pay off. I for one don’t think that it is wrong to have a mortgage on the stadium that is structured to be paid back in a method that allows payments to be made in line with our income.

    I think that the bank will want assurances about future expenditure being realistic. This could be way of introducing a wage cap at the club, which I think all clubs should implement in any case.

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  • komfort

    Aug 17, 2009 at 10:03 AM

    Comment #17

    not me batty , it was probably stardust’s mate …i can’t remember his name me heed’s numb at the mo…

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  • Geordie-Gerrard7

    Aug 17, 2009 at 10:06 AM

    Comment #18

    right here is what i have heard….

    my uncle rang me this morning at 8.30, he had been told last night that the club will indeed be sold by today, with two deals both in the final stages, one is a consortium, the other is a single handed bloke with great financial clout, one is english and one is foreign possibly german, dutch, swiss or austrian. Both will therefore appoint shearer as manager, with the english consortium wanting to go all english with player recruitment, staff recruitment, so on and so on.
    Where as the foreign consortium want shearer as manager and an old footballing legend from a foreign country taking over the day today running of the club much lik quinn is with the scum. both will give significant sums of money, all the money from transfers will be going to the club, to balance the books and make signifcant room to play in the transfer department, mike ashley (as much as i hate him) has pumped the sales of players into the club, including milner, insomnia, given and all this summers transfers making the club a much brighter prospect for these buyers. All this sounds good untill i tell you the english consortium plan to give ashley a 20% stake in the club for future investment.
    Dont believe the papers with the kinnear story its a load of tosh, llambias was the one pushing for jfk, not fat mike.

    Dont hang all your hope on all this happening, but its just what i have been told, and this is info from a man close to the deal. im just praying some of it is true

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  • Nick D

    Aug 17, 2009 at 10:08 AM

    Comment #19

    It’s amazing how fickle people are. last year loads of people were moaning about S Taylor
    and his positional sense and poor decision making which led to may goals being conceded.
    Now it’s like the end of the world if he moves on !!!

    Everyone keeps slagging Ashley and with good reason, but he is the one who somehow has to keep coming up with the funds to keep us running as a going concern.

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  • Rangerman

    Aug 17, 2009 at 10:12 AM

    Comment #20

    bill – surely it depends what the loan against future income is for?

    Taking out a loan to extend the stadium and letting the extra seats pay for themselves is a good business move, like we did here and Arsenal did with the Emirates.

    Taking out a loan against future ticket sales so that Moat can buy the club is only benefiting one man, when it’s paid off the only person to have something to show for it will be Moat who will have a football club that the hardworking fans of this football club paid for for him.

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  • Nick D

    Aug 17, 2009 at 10:13 AM

    Comment #21

    geordie gerrard

    I could handle Ashley being a shareholder. If this is true and he has ploughed the money back in to balance the books and make it look more attractive, then obviously he does have soem business acumen, but just don’t let him make any more footballing decisions!!!!!!!!!!

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  • Whumpie

    Aug 17, 2009 at 10:15 AM

    Comment #22

    Hang on, hang on – Steven Taylor ain’t out of the door yet, and I don’t believe he will be until he’s absolutely sure it’s that or keep working under Ashley.

    Also, surely the obvious solution for all concerned is that Ashley retains a share in the club but sells the control?? That way he could make a stack of his investment back in a couple of years but without taking all the flak.

    I’m still clinging onto the hope that we’ll get something like that. Anything that will get Shearer in, keep Taylor, buy some players and generally put us back on the rails.

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  • sahota

    Aug 17, 2009 at 10:17 AM

    Comment #23

    As long as Mike is not majority shareholder, its fine. Give him 20% and let him some of his money back after we go back to premier league.

    I am not sure but my personal opinion is Mike don’t want to sell Newcastle completely. He would love to hold onto some shares.

    Lets see how this week unfolds, I hope it o not end like many other weeks in past with all GOSSIP.

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  • NUFC-0809-Oh Dear

    Aug 17, 2009 at 10:19 AM

    Comment #24

    Nick D –

    I was thinking the same about Alan Smith

    He had a brilliant first match as captain and everyone started licking his ar$e and all of a sudden now in articles and blogs you read that he is one not to be sold, when people not so long ago were saying Smith had to be the first out of the door!

    Fickle people!

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  • NUFC-0809-Oh Dear

    Aug 17, 2009 at 10:22 AM

    Comment #25

    I must say, its amazing how much of a kick up the ar$e it must have been to Ryan Taylor us signing Danny Simpson , I think saturday was by far his best game fo us, and what a cross for Shola’s second!

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  • Rangerman

    Aug 17, 2009 at 10:23 AM

    Comment #26

    As long as Mike is not majority shareholder, its fine. Give him 20% and let him some of his money back after we go back to premier league.

    ……

    What does it matter what percentage he owns if Moat is running the club?

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  • Nobby_Long

    Aug 17, 2009 at 10:24 AM

    Comment #27

    the money from sales HAS to go back to the club…the club owns the player registrations……

    the money has to be paid to the club otherwise it would be against FIFA rules and also be a tad illegal.

    All Ashley could do, and I’m not for one second suggesting he is, is for example if Spurs agreed to pay for Bassong in two £4m installments, Ashley could loan the club the second £4m and then get it back when Spurs pay NUFC

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  • belfast toon

    Aug 17, 2009 at 10:24 AM

    Comment #28

    This is unbearable if Ashley stays wer proper fcuked, if wer sold we live happily ever after its like the end of the italian job only this time fat mike is dancing in the middle of the bus.

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  • Rangerman

    Aug 17, 2009 at 10:26 AM

    Comment #29

    What benefits would Ashley get from lending the club the second installment?

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  • Nick D

    Aug 17, 2009 at 10:26 AM

    Comment #30

    NUFC-0809-Oh Dear

    Yes vastly improved display by R tayor

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  • Nick D

    Aug 17, 2009 at 10:26 AM

    Comment #31

    Taylor even

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  • MacToon

    Aug 17, 2009 at 10:27 AM

    Comment #32

    I’d have thought it would make a big difference for the current owner to lose control of the club ie. he has less than a 50% share.

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  • Nobby_Long

    Aug 17, 2009 at 10:29 AM

    Comment #33

    He wouldn’t directly, other than it could ease the temporary cash flow /overdraft issues to ease a sale, plus he will get the money back in X months time when NUFC get the second installment……

    that’s not rocket science to work out…its just like a sale on HP

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  • Whumpie

    Aug 17, 2009 at 10:32 AM

    Comment #34

    Derek: “Steven Taylor… has not improved as a defender over the last three years”

    What utter tosh. He was fantastic last season; actually made fewer mistakes than “Can-do-no-wrong” Bassong in the last few games.

    Of all our players, Taylor is the one I’d be most upset at losing. Not just for his importance on the field, but as a representative of what the club is founded upon. If he goes, then it’s a bigger nail in the coffin than Given leaving because it’s a huge signal to everyone that things are going to get even worse.

    I am praying that one of these mad stories about sales going through turns out to be true. Or a good guess. I’ll take either.

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  • Rangerman

    Aug 17, 2009 at 10:32 AM

    Comment #35

    I’d have thought it would make a big difference for the current owner to lose control of the club ie. he has less than a 50% share.

    …..

    I don’t see why, there won’t be a power struggle between them as Ashley wants no part of running the club, he just wants to get back into the Premiership to get as much of his investment back as possible.

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  • bill

    Aug 17, 2009 at 10:33 AM

    Comment #36

    Rangerman:
    I think that you know where I stand on the future ownership of NUFC. I want it to be a fans club, but since that isn’t going to happen in the short term; if I was the new owner I would see the stadium and income from fans as being the best assets that the club has.

    Barclay’s must realise that NUFC are a better prospect in the top division, therefore, lending money against an asset like SJP isn’t much of a risk. The money from Barclay’s could then be put into rebuilding the team to ensure promotion happens at the first attempt.

    The fans through NUST should lobby for an input to the club at Director level but I think for this to have any chance of working some financial input will have to be in place other than turning up to watch football matches.

    I haven’t been to SJP for months because I will not go back until Ashley has gone but I would be willing to do my bit if NUST were to go down this path.

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  • Rangerman

    Aug 17, 2009 at 10:33 AM

    Comment #37

    What utter tosh. He was fantastic last season; actually made fewer mistakes than “Can-do-no-wrong” Bassong in the last few games.

    ……

    He was good in the final few games, before then he couldn’t even get in the team ahead of Colo.

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  • NUFC-0809-Oh Dear

    Aug 17, 2009 at 10:34 AM

    Comment #38

    I agrewe with Whumpie…

    I felt that Steven Taylor was carrying Bassong a lot last year and felt like he had to play slightly behind, ready to clean up his mistakes.

    He does similar with Collo the Clown.

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  • Rangerman

    Aug 17, 2009 at 10:35 AM

    Comment #39

    bill – So you think it’s ok for Moat to take out a loan against future ticket sales we can all buy the football club for him?

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  • dak76

    Aug 17, 2009 at 10:40 AM

    Comment #40

    What about this possible and workable solution.
    Moat buys a controlling 60% of the club from Ashley (ala hall/sheppard)as he is clearly struggling to meet the 100m asking price. As the controlling party he can install Shearer as manaher now thus calming the playing squad and stop the selling of all our players. Come end of season Moat buys the remaining 40% for a pre agreed price from Ashley.. It gives Moat time to find the investors needed (plus with a stable club and manager it will be a more appealing investment than it is now, which is like a scabby lepper). We gain automatic promotion and get rid of ashley, Win Win??

    What does everyone think of this?

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