Confusion Still Reigns At Newcastle


Mike Ashley flew into Newcastle United’s training ground yesterday, and we were told it was to tie up some loose ends with the Damien Duff transfer to Fulham.

Mike Ashley Daughter - 2

Mike Ashley with daughter Anna – in happier times
That may be true but we’ll never really know with Mike, as he never speaks to the fans or any of the players.

Accompanied by Managing Director Derek Llambias, Ashley spent less than an hour at the training ground – with Hughton saying the club’s future ownership was not discussed.

Llambias admitted yesterday that Barry Moat is in advanced negotiations to buy the club, but from what we heard yesterday Ashley will only sell for the £100M asking price, and we don’t know if Moat can meet that price.

The reports also suggested there were two other consortia in for the club, and we have no idea who they may be, but we wouldn’t be too surprised if the Profitable group of Singapore is one of them.

The Telegraph reported yesterday that they thought Moat got the Barclays Bank loan he was seeking, with the Journal this morning saying Barry will know today.

But whether the loan will allow Moat to bid the £100M we just don’t know, but we’re always hopeful.

If a sale can not be negotiated, it is understood that Ashley will take the club off the market on Friday, so we should know by the end of the week, but we’ll not hold our breath.

And yesterday, former Spurs, Glasgow Rangers and England defender Graham Roberts appeared on television to claim his little-known group ‘Fans 401’ had the backing of a mystery business willing to give £100M to turn Newcastle into a fans-run club along the lines of Barcelona.

We wouldn’t put too much credence into  this bid, at this late stage.

And so the stupid soap opera at Newcastle continues to roll.



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43 comments so far

  • cam_toon

    Aug 19, 2009 at 9:31 AM

    Comment #1

    Well it will either be sorted or not sorted today, sorted or not sorted tomorrow… or sorted, not sorted Friday. lol

    One thing is for sure. We cheer the lads, we raise the roof. Three point puts us top. !!!!

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  • sirjasontoon

    Aug 19, 2009 at 9:41 AM

    Comment #2

    If the club is sold I will be happy to see the back of the current regime no questions asked.

    I have said all along my gut feeling is Mike will take the club off the Market again and this fiasco will continue during every future transfer window,eventually he will put the club into Administration…it’s criminal what is happening.

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  • Wigaz

    Aug 19, 2009 at 9:41 AM

    Comment #3

    Well lets hope that moat is 99% done & this other consortiums crap is just people after a bit of publicity. We have waited too long too have a bloody bidding war at the last hurdle. Ed not meaning to sound like a moaner but you need to have a techy look at your site, it keeps going to mobile phone mode which is a nightmare.

    On a side note i’d do your daughter mike! Gigidy Gigidy! Allrighhhhhttttttt!!!!!! take that round boy!

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  • sirjasontoon

    Aug 19, 2009 at 9:42 AM

    Comment #4

    Wigaz She looks like a Horse. 🙂

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  • spiderpig

    Aug 19, 2009 at 9:44 AM

    Comment #5

    ed.its not ashleys role to keep fans and players informed of the day to day running of the club.it is the chairman or managing director.he should be telling lamsarse to communicate with us better tho.you never here of abromovich or the glazers communicating with fans and players do you.its always the chairman or manager.i’m not sticking up for ashley in any sense,just pointing out a few facts.he is a naive owner of a football club in which he’s employed absolute muppets to run it for him.if he had any sense he would keep hold of the club,get rid of lamsarse and get in a proper footballing chairman or md,and a decent manager.

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  • premier

    Aug 19, 2009 at 9:44 AM

    Comment #6

    Even confusion could reign better than Ashley

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  • sirjasontoon

    Aug 19, 2009 at 9:48 AM

    Comment #7

    Confusion is King at the Toon…the regime don’t give a stuff about newcastle…all he wants to do is asset strip and bury us in deep in 5hit.

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  • Jan Stavik

    Aug 19, 2009 at 9:48 AM

    Comment #8

    Why do you want this Moat-guy so badly? He’s in need for a loan even before buying the club, how can he be the man to get this club on foot?!

    We’ll have to settle for another Fat Ash-season, lets face it.

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  • sirjasontoon

    Aug 19, 2009 at 9:50 AM

    Comment #9

    Not a big fan of Moat or Shearer Management..think we will be run on a shoestring under Moat.

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  • JaydanGeordie

    Aug 19, 2009 at 9:51 AM

    Comment #10

    Do u know any links to watch the game tonight??

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  • tdt

    Aug 19, 2009 at 9:52 AM

    Comment #11

    I can’t wait to see the bad of Ashley, but it worries me that this prospective owner needs a loan to buy the club – as this means he has less than £100m at his disposal. So he’ll be broke after buying us? hmmm. Lets just say I hope his backers are loaded!

    Anyway – looking forward to tonights match, 8-0 toon! bring back the bobby magic! Shola gets 5, lol that’ll be the day 🙂

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  • jckie15

    Aug 19, 2009 at 9:53 AM

    Comment #12

    Good old Hughton eh, putting a damper on any little glimmer of hope we thought existed by Ashley appearing at the training ground yesterday…..this has got ‘january transfer window 2009’ all over it with Ashley keeping the club

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  • will die for the toon army

    Aug 19, 2009 at 9:53 AM

    Comment #13

    He trusts his men I dont doubt him with that when you trust someone you trust them thats the weakness of humans.

    sirjasontoon, If you hate Ashely dont bring it on his kids fight the war with the one you hate.

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  • Wigaz

    Aug 19, 2009 at 9:54 AM

    Comment #14

    SJT she rides like one as well! Alrighttttt!!!!! I would take any other management team over MA mate. If Moat & Shearer come in at least we wont lose anymore players that will help us in the division. We still have enough to go back up. If you Add sol & Lovenkrans in as free’s then we have strenghtened in areas we need to, Wor Pete will get 20 goals ne notha in this league. If Shola can bag a hatrick then Pete will run rampant!

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  • tdt

    Aug 19, 2009 at 9:55 AM

    Comment #15

    In the last 4/5 years upto last year, was the club making a profit? minus the transfers? I think Moat is hoping on getting into the prem on the 1st time of asking, so the club will finance it’s self. Which it will if we get straight back up, considering we’ve got rid of all the over-paid useless foo’s.

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  • will die for the toon army

    Aug 19, 2009 at 10:00 AM

    Comment #16

    Do you know why I trust Moat & Shearer is because we have the same black & white blood as all of us I can do any thing for the TOON so I bet is Moat & Shearer you can see whats happening at Barca.
    Cataluya Chairman, Manager and Captain…

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  • JinkyGenius

    Aug 19, 2009 at 10:00 AM

    Comment #17

    Spiderpig, I think you have nailed it there. The overall confusion is partly to do with Ashley’s personal business turmoil, and in the end he will have put in a damn site more of his personal money that Moat ever will – because he doesn’t have any. As bad as Ashley has been, there’s still part of me that would rather have him losing money (and learning – perhaps even putting a strong executive team in place)) than Moat effectively placing the club in debt from the off and still not being able to afford players…

    Is Moat necessarily going to be any better, or his is only positive point the Shearer connection? Be careful what you wish for..

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  • sirjasontoon

    Aug 19, 2009 at 10:04 AM

    Comment #18

    Totally agree we know little about Moat…someone on here said he spoke to some taxi drivers that knew Moat and he is a TW4T 🙂

    3 points tonight…ease the pain.

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  • will die for the toon army

    Aug 19, 2009 at 10:04 AM

    Comment #19

    He has black & white blood I hate Shepherd but I knew his love for the toon was beyond any bounds

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  • Whumpie

    Aug 19, 2009 at 10:07 AM

    Comment #20

    Wigaz, that cracked me up, and I’m only on my first coffee…

    Some really good posts on here.

    Ed – once again I feel I must protest (ooh – gone all poncey with ma wordage) at the headline.

    What makes you think there’s confusion AT Newcastle?

    Surely the confusion is with us, the fans, and the media? We have no reason at all to believe that there’s any problem inside those meeting rooms; in fact there’s more going on than we’ve seen for weeks, and I suspect it’s anything but confused.

    One question which keeps bugging me: if the only blocker was being able to afford 100% of the club for £100m, why doesn’t Ashley just sell less of it for less money?

    Perhaps that’s what’ll happen – it had been suggested by a few posters yesterday.

    And yep, I’d rather have a comparative pauper in charge who’ll do the right thing than a rich git with a talent for destroying clubs.

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  • magpie6699

    Aug 19, 2009 at 10:09 AM

    Comment #21

    I think it’s all very clear really. From what I read, there is great optimism, sorry, pessimism that the Moat deal has gone through because he’s got backing from Barclay’s, no -Americans, no -Middle-East , no -Freddie Shepherd, soory – I meant that the deal will go through today, err won’t go through at all, that there’s no other, sorry 2 other interested parties, that Mike Ashley will not sell, that he will take the club into administration but that he’s still a great supporter of the team, the new manager will be Shearer, sorry Coppell, errm I mean Kinnear, or is that Hughton? We will get lots of / no new plyera and sell nobody else / everybody. Got it?
    Oh hello nurse! Is it time for my tablets again? Thank you – yes, it’s really pretty in this garden.

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  • will die for the toon army

    Aug 19, 2009 at 10:09 AM

    Comment #22
  • magforlife

    Aug 19, 2009 at 10:11 AM

    Comment #23

    Amazing, we have a top class Geordie fan who has spent a fortune at the club who is prepared to take the club on when no one else would and he is already getting flak.
    Come on, give him a break, he cant be any worse than Ashley/Shephard and at least we should get behind him, who says he has no money? Where did the rumour start?
    Lets wait until he speaks until any judgements are made and lets not shoot him down before he takes off.

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  • geordie Jack

    Aug 19, 2009 at 10:15 AM

    Comment #24

    Headline in yesterdays Chronicle – “Ashley flies in to training ground but not for takeover talks” – followed by the Journal this morning “Ashley flies in to training ground for talks”! Lol – confusion reigns at Thomson house as well I guess the local paper is confused as well, eh?!

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  • bill

    Aug 19, 2009 at 10:19 AM

    Comment #25

    magforlife:

    Agree with you to a degree magforlife but it’s words and ACTIONS that we need to judge Barry Moat on, if and when he takes over.

    He must communicate with the fans and get the fans involved with the club.

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  • cam_toon

    Aug 19, 2009 at 10:20 AM

    Comment #26

    Spot on Magforlife.

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  • will die for the toon army

    Aug 19, 2009 at 10:22 AM

    Comment #27

    | dot care abt those guys who say that the Geordie stuff doesnt work but what I know a man can do anything for what he loves that is what MOAT & SHEARER will do.
    Our debt isnt big I bet it is not more than 200m Pounds

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  • cam_toon

    Aug 19, 2009 at 10:24 AM

    Comment #28

    Well the way I see it.. its simply far to early to be judging anyone. We don’t even know if he is to take over. or to what extent his involvement would be.

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  • will die for the toon army

    Aug 19, 2009 at 10:29 AM

    Comment #29

    Team for Tonight;
    ……………………..Harper
    Simpson………..S.Taylor……..Coloccini…….Enrique
    R.Taylor……….Nolan…………Smith(c)………..Jonas
    ……………….Shola…………..Carroll
    Subs:
    Krul, Kadar, Lua-Lua, Geremi, Guthrie, Ranger, Xisco

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  • mylestoon

    Aug 19, 2009 at 10:45 AM

    Comment #30

    replace geremi with barton!

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  • Billy Bunter

    Aug 19, 2009 at 10:59 AM

    Comment #31

    LADS – I posted last night but got load of greef from the nite time lot.

    Donna finished work late last nite, she says that fredie sheherd was at the ground -she worked for him for yers, she shouted “freddie are ye buying us” he winked at her and said hope so donna -hope so – why wud he be there at 8pm at night if he wasnt

    i am gutted if he buys us

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  • magpie4ever

    Aug 19, 2009 at 11:01 AM

    Comment #32

    Like I said yeasterday. It could be that he’s simply waiting for Barclays to complete the paperwork the transfer of the money rather than a decision on a loan.

    And I agree with other posters, I’d rather have Moat & a stable senisbly run club than MA right now!

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  • JinkyGenius

    Aug 19, 2009 at 11:01 AM

    Comment #33

    Black and White blood? I’d rather have an owner with money, sports business experience and a modicum of intelligence, thank you.. And, sorry, magforlife, it is exactly the right time to ask questions of Moat or we will back in the same boat in two years time, except a league lower!!

    FFS and his black and white blood sanctioned the purchase of little Micky and the sacking of Bobby Robson (only to later deny it) amongst other classic decisions. Bobby was the best, only because his black and white blood was mixed up with a huge dose of talent and professionalism. What is all this jaundiced parochial nonsense flying around today? If you’re not a Geordie you can’t work here? That rule would have stuffed Sir Bobby and thousands of other Geordie workers around the world if there was retaliation in kind. It’s a pan-cultural world, mate, get used to it!

    COMMITTED NEW OWNER WANTED – NON-GEORDIES WITH A WIDER PERSPECTIVE ON LIFE VERY (VERY) WELCOME!!

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  • ian

    Aug 19, 2009 at 11:04 AM

    Comment #34

    Ashley isnt going to sell. Never was.

    Moat isnt going for a Barclay loan complete with free digital camera.

    Shepherd and co have wasted their time and money.

    Championship side or less, JJB Sports shop in place of the club shop or elsewhere and a Casino amongst the conference rooms, the club just has to sink low enough for the council to pass the planning application.

    Ashley cannot be this stupid.

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  • ian

    Aug 19, 2009 at 11:10 AM

    Comment #35

    Jinkygenius

    Not such a genius, Freddy Shepherd had to tell Robson he was sacked, he voted to keep Robson, Hall used his cronies on the board to overthrow Shepherd’s vote. It was Hall not Shepherd.

    It is written in books and was said on the TV, but it seems few listened.

    Furthermore where was golden boy Shearer? Captain at the time, dressing room supposed to be in turmoil, who said it was? It had to come from somewhere else other than Robson?

    The after Robson goes it happens again and this time our top scorer Bellamy is sacked for sending texts, to who? Shearer.

    Shearer the man with the ability to manage a club?

    I loved Shearer as a player, I hope he makes a brilliant manager oneday, but go and learn somewhere else as to date as a captain at Newcastle it was a failure – Robson and bellamy sacked on Shearer’s watch, and managing those last games it was a failure.

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  • Billy Bunter

    Aug 19, 2009 at 11:12 AM

    Comment #36

    LADS – I just texted Donna – she says the rumer about barton and hull is a scam, she says the internet link going round can be used for different clubs and players, she told me to chanje the numbres in the adress bar, i did and it chanjes the players to all kinds

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  • RyanToon

    Aug 19, 2009 at 11:31 AM

    Comment #37

    11.15 Premier League officials have confirmed the transfer window will close on Tuesday 1st September at 5pm.

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  • JinkyGenius

    Aug 19, 2009 at 11:45 AM

    Comment #38

    Ian, it’s murky waters, and I agree the denials were quickly in place from all & sundry on Robson’s sacking. Whisper it around these parts, but I’m no Shearer for manager advocate either, quite the opposite as I think it will all end in tears, but in fairness he too denies involvement in the Sir Bobby fiasco – but that is not what I heard either. So perhaps Sir Bobby sacked himself?

    However, there is little doubt FFS was interested only in bank account number one, and some appalling decisions on managerial appointments and transfers were made on his watch. Those same decisions were instrumental in forcing the club to trade with a stupid wage bill for years – long before Ashley bailed the club out (people forget this, conveniently). As long ago as this time last year it was rumored in some NE circles that FFS was backing on relegation and picking the club up cheap as a result; if so, no the wonder Ashley is paranoid.

    Lack of sustainable and effective working between boardroom and management/coaching has held back the club for ages. There is nothing in Moat’s bid or background that suggests things will change, and I would rather stick with MA than return to FFS. The only problem is MA seems incapable on making rational long term decisions on re-structuring and strategy beyond short term cost-cutting measures and pay-per-match management teams involving the limited skills of JFK.

    If I was more confident MA and Chris Hughton could work hard together and get us up automatically I would gladly take that option and watch the buyers flood in next May. A Premier League club will net Ashley a whole lot more return on investment, and I’m sure that’s in his mind.

    So, if MA wants promotion and the fans want promotion – then we are united in a common cause. A pact of convenience is as good as it’s going to get, I suggest. We’ll know more this time next week – but if we fail to take at least 4 points from the next two league games and stumble against Huddersfield it would look bleak indeed as there are too many motivated clubs in the CCC with their eyes on the top two spots – and we would just bottle the play-offs anyway as usual.

    No it’s not good, but it could be much worse.

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  • magforlife

    Aug 19, 2009 at 2:14 PM

    Comment #39

    Jinkygenius – once again you have jumped the gun going into extensive discussion on everything and nothing,
    all i said was give the guy a chance. He hasnt spoken yet so all this rumour and spin about what he is going to do and how, is all meaningless.
    These people probably dont read these blogs but if they did, it would put them off football for life, all doom and gloom and punching a man before the bell has gone.

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  • stk85

    Aug 19, 2009 at 4:37 PM

    Comment #40

    you know, even if the club is up for sale, why the hell should everything grind to a halt?! theres no need.

    keep teh club on the market as ashley obviously wants out, but in the meantime, don’t be scared to make proper decisions about managers and back whatever transfers we can.

    surely as owner its his responsibility to see us moving forward, and not continue to stagnate.

    got that sickening feeling again…..

    spew….

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