Newcastle Need At Least 5 New Players In A Week


With today’s less than exciting announcement from Newcastle, that Barry Moat will be given more time to secure a loan from Barclays Bank, the club seems to be stuck in a time warp – and time is running out quickly.

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Peter Lovenkrands – this player should be signed now!


If you back track to a week ago that was exactly the first news of the week – that Moat was trying to do a deal with Barclays to prove he could handle the £40M (£39M to be exact)  overdraft at Newcastle.

So you wonder just how much progress was made last week – not much we fear.

Barry is making coming up with £100M seem to be the hardest thing in the world, and we have a right to wonder if there’s any money for new players – or any money for anything.

With 14 weeks gone since we were relegated , 10 players left and only one new arrival you have to wonder how many original Newcastle targets are still left. The answer – not many.

It seems like we’ll not even get free agent Sol Campbell, who is said today to be close to a deal for 2nd Division Notts County.

So he’ll be playing in black and white stripes next season, but not on Tyneside, it appears. But if he’s willing to play in England’s 4th division, presumably for the money,  maybe he wasn’t the right player for Newcastle in any case.

We have lost a net 9 players so far, and if you believe we have 4 teenagers who have rightly earned their places in the first team squad – Tamas Kadar, Ryan Donaldson, Nile Ranger and LuaLua, then we are 5 short on the numbers we had last year.

And remember we had a small squad last year, and also we play 46 games in the Championship rather than the 38 we did last season, which is one reason to have an even bigger squad.

When you look at the strengths and weaknesses of our current squad in terms of numbers in each position  – we are overladen with central midfielders – Nolan, Barton, Butt, Smith and Guthrie can all play there.

So if we have to sell players, the most saleable of these is probably Nicky Butt, with Burnley said to be interested.

And here are some players who are still available, that at one time or another we’ve had an interest in this summer, with positions and approximate transfer prices:

Mike Williamson CB – Watford £2M
Andy O’Brien CB – Bolton £2M
Peter Lovenmkrands M – free
Sol Campbell CB – free
Robert Earnshaw S – Nottingham Forest £3M
Jermaine Beckford S – Leeds £3M
Solvi Ottesen CB – Sonderjyske – Denmark £2M
Erik Huseklepp M – Brann  Norway £2M
Per Ciljan Skjelbred M – Rosenburg Norway £5M

Of those we should probably strike off Campbell, but we need to see 5 net new players at least before next Tuesday, and if sell some players than that number should increase accordingly.

But this is a very dangerous game Newcastle are playing right now.

There are 15 weeks from the end of the season to the end of the transfer window, and we essentially have  wasted 14 of them and now have one week left with a current net of -9 players. Unbelievable incompetence!

What happens for instance, if the weekend comes, and we still don’t know who the new owner and new manager are?

The plans of mice and men – mainly mice it seems.

Comments (and solutions) welcome.



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288 comments so far

  • Shah

    Aug 24, 2009 at 5:06 PM

    Comment #1

    Mike Ashley should at least have the courtesy to release a statement letting the fans know whats going on, i wont be supirsed if he gets his ass kicked by the fans if taylor gets sold.

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  • gibbotwg

    Aug 24, 2009 at 5:07 PM

    Comment #2

    id like to see:
    Solvi Ottesen CB
    Erik Huseklepp M/S
    Per Ciljan Skjelbred M
    peter lovencrands M/S
    and maybe; arron gunnarson

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  • Edd Case

    Aug 24, 2009 at 5:08 PM

    Comment #3

    There wont be any players coming in…have you lot learnt nothing?

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  • Waddles mullet

    Aug 24, 2009 at 5:11 PM

    Comment #4

    Players will be lined up.

    Ryan big al is nailed on cert! So I will take the plaudits later.
    How much did you get on?

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  • gibbotwg

    Aug 24, 2009 at 5:12 PM

    Comment #5

    Edd case i did say ‘id like to see” lol

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  • RyanToon

    Aug 24, 2009 at 5:13 PM

    Comment #6

    We wont sign anyone

    50/1 waddles, cracking price

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  • batty

    Aug 24, 2009 at 5:16 PM

    Comment #7

    just like january we needed 5 then

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  • Waddles mullet

    Aug 24, 2009 at 5:17 PM

    Comment #8

    Ash and moat very clever publicly naming what the hold up is! Other banks would fall over themselves to help out’ just a matter of time now!

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  • sirjasontoon

    Aug 24, 2009 at 5:18 PM

    Comment #9

    No players coming in, Moat can’t even afford to put his money where his mouth is and buy the damn club.

    Ashley will take the club off the market soon as the window is shutting and our players have been sold off.

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  • sirjasontoon

    Aug 24, 2009 at 5:19 PM

    Comment #10

    Getting hacked of with this.

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  • frogeordie

    Aug 24, 2009 at 5:21 PM

    Comment #11

    Bla bla bla bladi bla. Whole article is gobsh*t*

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  • Eaststander

    Aug 24, 2009 at 5:22 PM

    Comment #12

    What the bloody hell is that idiot doing now. I simply can’t belive that we have a week to try and build the squad back up. I fear that he will let more go with nobody coming the other way. He had to sell the club today, not tomorrow or the next day. What an absolute bastard. I wish he would go Blu bambu now and try and buy everyone a pint because I know where mine would be going.

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  • sirjasontoon

    Aug 24, 2009 at 5:26 PM

    Comment #13

    Well said Eaststander the Man is a muppett.

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  • DJG

    Aug 24, 2009 at 5:30 PM

    Comment #14

    ”Barry is making coming up with £100M seem to be the hardest thing in the world, and we have a right to wonder if there’s any money for new players”

    Hang on a min £100M aint pocket change.

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  • DJG

    Aug 24, 2009 at 5:33 PM

    Comment #15

    Is anyone actually goin to the game on wed.???? Im gannin wiv wor lass.

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  • Robby Bobson

    Aug 24, 2009 at 5:33 PM

    Comment #16

    Well i cant see us making many permanant signings anyway and the loan deadline is later so there would still be a chance to add a few faces until January at least.

    gibbotwg – i agree that Gunnarson would be a great signing but he was the sort of player i was hoping we would sign 3 months ago, but i cant see us affording many young players, especially of Arons quality.

    Huselkepp is being linked with the prem so he may be out of our reach, Skjelbred dont think there will be the funds for either.

    We definately do need some new faces and i would be satisfied with one or two tranfers, lovenkrands on a free and one or two loan deals after august 31st.

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  • Dragonera

    Aug 24, 2009 at 5:34 PM

    Comment #17

    I can see one coming in, and two leaving, lol.

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  • Rodzilla

    Aug 24, 2009 at 5:35 PM

    Comment #18

    This will be the plan lads:

    “In England, clubs from the Football League Championship to the Football Conference can loan in players from 8 September to 23 November and also from 8 February until 23 March. An existing loan deal can be made permanent at any time outside the transfer window”

    ….anyway, check this:

    “I was feeling suicidal about the way we went down at Newcastle and wasn’t even thinking that far ahead,” Duff explained to The People.

    Fot FK’s sake, Damien. Really.

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  • Rodzilla

    Aug 24, 2009 at 5:35 PM

    Comment #19

    *For

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  • Whumpie

    Aug 24, 2009 at 5:36 PM

    Comment #20

    gibbotwg… you from the Nordics, by any smidge of a chance? 😉

    Someone said on here earlier that the window for loan signings is a bit longer – anyone know if that’s true?

    Loans are ideal for us at the mo, so I wouldn’t be surprised if that was the plan.

    As for Ashley not telling us what’s going on, I think he has… he’s having a really good, prolonged, inexcusable faff at the club’s expense.

    BUT unless the whole thing is a ruse of some sort, today’s announcement does indicate that he’s REACHED A DEAL TO SELL. Otherwise, what’s the point of the announcement?

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  • DJG

    Aug 24, 2009 at 5:38 PM

    Comment #21

    ”It seems like we’ll not even get free agent Sol Campbell, who is said today to be close to a deal for 2nd Division Notts County.”

    Dont want him Ed, 35 year old Mercinary wanting one last big payday. Kadar and Tozer will be cheaper and better.

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  • BlacknWhite Barmy

    Aug 24, 2009 at 5:38 PM

    Comment #22

    Big IF but if the stadium had of been empty for the two home games do you think Fat Ash would be in a position to be holding out for HIS price ….
    Ive said it many times that FatAsh is a business man and will asset strip this club – Q where has the transfer money gone?? The overdraft is still 39M !! …. Oh to the owner – even at 50M FatAsh will walk away with a profit on his 134M

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  • BlacknWhite Barmy

    Aug 24, 2009 at 5:40 PM

    Comment #23

    Im guess what Im saying is all those “WE MUST SUPPORT THE TEAM AT ALL COSTS” brigade need to realise the cost is Ashley for another year !!!

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  • Whumpie

    Aug 24, 2009 at 5:43 PM

    Comment #24

    BlacknWhite Barmy – you need to take a quick lesson in law, and another one in maths, mate.

    1. He can’t just ‘take the money’. He’d be in jail faster than he can down a pint.

    2. In case you’d not noticed, the club was still losing about 30m a year. All that transfer cash? It’s in the players’ pockets and those of various agents and clubs still taking payment for ancient and disastrous player sales.

    Ashley is a disaster on legs – but he’s lost over £100m on this one whichever way you cut it.

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  • simon376

    Aug 24, 2009 at 5:43 PM

    Comment #25

    Blackn White Barmy

    I know its a case of everything now being on Moats head as it’s doen to him to get the capital together, but you are spot on there. At the very least the overdraft shold have gone down, either it’s there to cover transfer debts or just for general running of the club. Whatever the case, all that money sarting to come through should see the overdraft going down.

    As for Ashley saying he doesnt want the club in more debt and paying up front for players when we did buy some, that only works if people are doing the same for us. If they don’t, our cash flow is knackered, so can’t see his logic

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  • Doocey

    Aug 24, 2009 at 5:44 PM

    Comment #26

    “Erik Huseklepp M – Brann Norway £2M”

    £2m? At least £5 or 6m for him. Not saying he’s worth it, but with all the attention, his club will be trebling the price.

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  • Nick D

    Aug 24, 2009 at 5:44 PM

    Comment #27

    Everyone’s knocking Ashley for selling players,but how else is he supposed to finance us and keep us as a going concern when we are in so much debt.

    I don’t like the guy, but he has done what he can to reduce the wage bill and keep us solvent.

    Of that list, I would only want

    Solvi Ottesen CB – Sonderjyske – Denmark £2M
    Erik Huseklepp M – Brann Norway £2M
    Per Ciljan Skjelbred M – Rosenburg Norway £5M

    but that’s 9M we just don’t have !!!

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  • Eaststander

    Aug 24, 2009 at 5:44 PM

    Comment #28

    Does anyone else get that sinking feeling that this is all bull and its just Ashley pulling another fast one on us all. If when the transfer window closes and we are missing Steven Taylor, Jonas, Alan smith with no additions and then he turns round and says “Sorry deals fallen through lads nevermind. I want to take the club back to the premier leauge”. What will we do?, what can we do? Protesting just puts and even more evil smile on his face. Not going to the game will only hurt us and the team. What the hell do we do? I just don’t think this is ever going to end. I honestly belive he is enjoying this. He can keep making Derek run naked round St James why would he leave.

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  • Whumpie

    Aug 24, 2009 at 5:45 PM

    Comment #29

    Painful though it is, the better the turnouts for the matches, and the more the club takes in revenues generally, the more likely we are to end up with a new owner and a brighter future.

    I know it really sticks in the throat, but boycotts will have the opposite effect. The time to boycott was when KK went, not now, when we’re trying to make the club look attractive and stable to the likes of Moat and Barclays.

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  • Dragonera

    Aug 24, 2009 at 5:45 PM

    Comment #30

    BlacknWhite

    I agree with you, MA is set to make a profit after all the dust has settled. People talk about clearing debt etc. However, he has never spent more than what has been gained from sales in any window. So where has the ticket sales revenue gone? Merchandise sales? Remaining transfer budget from the last two windows including this one? Some may say MA has made catastrophic decisions, but as far as i can see, the man stands to pull off yet another piece of shrewd business at the expense of angering many people. In this case, NUFC fans.

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  • Whumpie

    Aug 24, 2009 at 5:49 PM

    Comment #31

    NickD – have you not ever had an overdraft? Did you not notice that it only reduced if there was money coming faster than it was going out?

    He can only reduce the overdraft if that 26m in player sales comes to more than the loss the club made in the same period… which it wasn’t. We stopped buying tickets and shirts. There’s your overdraft.

    I’m not defending the git, but let’s at least be realistic about where the money goes.

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  • Whumpie

    Aug 24, 2009 at 5:51 PM

    Comment #32

    Jesus, Dragonera – not you too!

    Will people get their heads around this simple idea: £26m in a year is not much help if the club loses £30m in that same year. It’s all in the same pot; you can’t pocket the income and just hope the expenses come from some magic bank account somewhere else.

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  • Nick D

    Aug 24, 2009 at 5:54 PM

    Comment #33

    Whumpie

    have you got the right person? I was sort of grudgingly defending him !!

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  • Dragonera

    Aug 24, 2009 at 5:56 PM

    Comment #34

    If he is losing 30million and gaining 26million a year, the money from transfers is going towards recouping that deficit. However, he is the owner, surely he must know owning a football club generally means losing a lot of your own personal fortune for the sake of building a successful club!?

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  • BlacknWhite Barmy

    Aug 24, 2009 at 6:09 PM

    Comment #35

    Whumpie
    He is the sole owner of the club and as such can pretty much do with it what he likes – theres no shareholder meetings – he hasnt excactly kept any of his promises – remember better comms etc etc
    He has greatly reduced the outgoings by shipping out high earners as well as a cull of the non playing staff. Sky parachute payments and the 1.5M per home game and still we need 40M overdraft !!! Doesnt stack up to me

    I dont believe any boycott would make the club less attractive as there has been no one taking his arm off – but a boycott does shift the power slightly away from the fatone and perhaps tips the scales in favour of a quick sale.

    All in all if he sell next week I dont personally think he will take a hit financially – afer all he does want his 100M loan back (initially said he didnt).

    If not its mid table – Taylor to everton and anyone else to anywhere else – but we will still pack the ground – cos thats what we do !!

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  • ToonWhitters

    Aug 24, 2009 at 6:26 PM

    Comment #36

    I just found this and found it quite interesting.

    If you just compare the attitudes of the people in charge at man city to that of newcastle united its pretty shameful –

    http://www.mcfc.co.uk/Video/Interviews/Chairmans-exclusive-video

    saying that chris mort seemed to be a top appointment when he came back in. Anyone would surely be a lot more competent than what we have right now!

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  • tooneskimo

    Aug 24, 2009 at 6:28 PM

    Comment #37

    Ashley is just dragging this out so he doesn’t actually have to buy anybody, foo king twot…
    whether Moat buys the club or not I couldn’t care less anymore he either has the dosh or doesn’t….I suspect Ash will pull the plug at the very last minute and hope we get promoted so he can get some extra dosh….

    the only guy that gets my respect at the moment is Hughton who has been a model pro despite a load of stick while caretaker last season and all the hassle he has endured through the summer. A miracle we are somehow joint top of the league.

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  • Waddles mullet

    Aug 24, 2009 at 6:31 PM

    Comment #38

    Whumpie

    Well done mate.

    Sometimes you might have to draw a picture to explain.

    This is what gets my goat up.

    The bloke hasn’t even started work yet!!

    http://boards.footymad.net/forum.php?tno=386&fid=185&sty=2&act=1&mid=2124843724

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  • magforlife

    Aug 24, 2009 at 6:43 PM

    Comment #39

    Everyone seems to be going off on one here about finances again but its all iffs and buts, nothing has ever been stated about Barry Moat not having the cash, its only an assumption that this is slowing the sale down.
    He must have the cash otherwise he wouldnt be talking to Ashley and he is the recommended bid from Seymour Pierce so he must have been vetted.
    The club statement refers to more time being given to take on the overdraft from the bank and this has sent most into outer space or into a massive knicker twist.
    You all need to calm down, see how it pans out and then criticize if need be.
    It cant be any worse with new owners as we are at best standing still with Ashley and would posters please stop quoting figures as if they have been in the data room at the club, you dont know what you are talking about so shut up.
    Rant over.

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  • Oba

    Aug 24, 2009 at 6:43 PM

    Comment #40

    Come on guys, lets look at this properly.

    Ashley is only prolonging this takeover so that he has an excuse come sept2 as to why he hasn’t signed anyone. Come then we will have no players in, no new owner, and potentially more players out with him claiming Taylor must leave to allow Moat to takeover, which imo he has no intention of doing at all.

    They are all in on this together, no news is definitely NOT good news, it’s just allowing the days of the transfer window to keep ticking over until no one can be signed.

    You wait, we’ll see come Sept2 whether I’m right, but I’m sure as hell confident this is the case.

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