Are Newcastle Serious About Selling Coloccini For £3M?


The News Of The World Is reporting that Newcastle may be able to sell Fabricio Coloccini to powerhouse club, Fenerbahce, of Instanbul, Turkey.

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Fabricio Coloccini – offloading him to Fenerbahce?

It seems that Newcastle are getting some kind of control on their finances, with the club’s overdraft reduced to £20M of the £39M available.

Presumably that has been because of the money (around £23M – but that will not all come immediately of course) from the sale of Martins, Beye, Bassong and Duff.

We also reduced the wage bill by about £10M/year on the club’s wage bill in selling those four players

We’re not sure if the news that Newcastle want to sell Fabricio Coloccini for a £3M transfer to Fenerbahce is true, since we lose a cool £7M on his transfer in a short 12 months.

But with various reports suggesting Fabricio’s on around £70K/week, as long as we bring in another solid center back in – like Matthew Kilgallon of the Blades or Andy O’Brien from Bolton, who of course was at Newcastle during the golden Bobby Robson years, we would probably be just fine.

Fabricio was not worth his transfer fee nor the wages he is on, although his big advantage is he can play almost every game.

He’s hardly ever injured and when we have a small squad, that gets to be important. The other big incentive for the player is that he still has a chance to play for the Argentine in South Africa next year.

The wage bill will be further reduced by around £3.6M if Fabricio leaves, and that may be good since he’;s hardly a footballer we’d like to keep in case we are promoted this season, since he wasn’t convincing in the Premier league.

That will take the wage bill down to around £44M, and there is a good chance that be can ship Xisco off to Racing Santandar.

But the Tyneside club is probably over a barrel with £5.7M signing Xisco, because Racing may not be able to pay all his wages of £50K/week.

This lad has been a crazy buy by the club, although it’s not Xisco’s fault that we paid £5.7M for him.

Comments welcome.



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113 comments so far

  • Ashley Hole

    Aug 30, 2009 at 6:05 PM

    Comment #1

    MA is staying!

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  • hitman

    Aug 30, 2009 at 6:09 PM

    Comment #2

    everton have signed atletico defender johnny heitinga, so that rules out s,taylor.well i hope.

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  • thud and blunder

    Aug 30, 2009 at 6:16 PM

    Comment #3

    everton havent signed him yet, just a fee agreed…

    but yeah looks like taylor will stay

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  • Toonmania

    Aug 30, 2009 at 6:18 PM

    Comment #4

    A Hole,
    where you hear that?? or is it just more made up stuff

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  • thud and blunder

    Aug 30, 2009 at 6:22 PM

    Comment #5

    toonmania….

    its bull..no one knows what is happening….not yet anyway

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  • batty

    Aug 30, 2009 at 6:22 PM

    Comment #6

    Toonmania // made up

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  • Solaidback

    Aug 30, 2009 at 6:23 PM

    Comment #7

    More made up shite!!!!!

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  • Tal_nufc4eva

    Aug 30, 2009 at 6:23 PM

    Comment #8

    wont sell coco the clown till we get anova central defender, we’ve got kadar but he doesnt have the experience but a wud b glad to see the back of this circus act eventhough he has dunn kanny wel so far dis season. good luck fenerbache

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  • Tal_nufc4eva

    Aug 30, 2009 at 6:24 PM

    Comment #9

    hea lads wor taylor wus gunna stay enyway man 🙂

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  • magpie6699

    Aug 30, 2009 at 6:26 PM

    Comment #10

    MA is going!
    (I know f*** all but I just wanted to join in)

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  • Rangerman

    Aug 30, 2009 at 6:29 PM

    Comment #11

    wont sell coco the clown till we get anova central defender, we’ve got kadar but he doesnt have the experience but a wud b glad to see the back of this circus act eventhough he has dunn kanny wel so far dis season. good luck fenerbache

    …..

    I’ve just put this in google translator and even they don’t know what you’re on about.

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  • Suthey

    Aug 30, 2009 at 6:30 PM

    Comment #12

    Any1 think it might be a requirment that colocinni is sold for the americans to come in, maybes xisco aswell?

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  • Ally

    Aug 30, 2009 at 6:32 PM

    Comment #13

    i hope we can push through some late deals

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  • Tom

    Aug 30, 2009 at 6:36 PM

    Comment #14

    The notion of O’Brien coming back scares the heck out of me. The guy is a terrible defender!

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  • gorskino10

    Aug 30, 2009 at 6:37 PM

    Comment #15

    I hope its 3 Mill plus Sertac Eren that would be a good deal (kinda of)

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  • Ally

    Aug 30, 2009 at 6:38 PM

    Comment #16

    Michael Johnson from City has just went off the radar i wonder if we could get him on loan for a season. if he is willing to drop down a division.

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  • dave 1961

    Aug 30, 2009 at 6:40 PM

    Comment #17

    Portsmouth owner say he needs more players with a bit of luck Ashley might try to flog him our pensioners

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  • Alex

    Aug 30, 2009 at 6:45 PM

    Comment #18

    Would Rather see Aaron Hughes back than O’Brien . But we still need at least 2 more CB’s even if we dont sell colo we are far too short of numbers at the back and up front

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  • AndyNUFC

    Aug 30, 2009 at 6:52 PM

    Comment #19

    Ally, the very fact that Johnson didn’t come to us last season speaks volumes to me. He’s just a young lad who’s in it for the drink, cars and obscene money, he couldn’t give a monkeys how often he plays.

    By the way, as much as I kicked off about us not signing Campbell, if those were his wage demands, I can see why we didn’t!

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  • Ally

    Aug 30, 2009 at 6:54 PM

    Comment #20

    aye true Andy still think we need more bodies in order to compete

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  • AndyNUFC

    Aug 30, 2009 at 7:06 PM

    Comment #21

    Aye we do but now we’re in the championship it’s probably about as much about talent as it is about work rate, commitment, dedication etc. I think Johnson’s talented but question his motives, just like every other player happy to be less than bit part for City.

    On top of that I think we’re covered in centre mid, we need a couple wingers, a full back (ideally somebody who could play either side), a centre back and a striker.

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  • AndyNUFC

    Aug 30, 2009 at 7:10 PM

    Comment #22

    Am I right in thinking that the transfer window shuts on Tuesday? If so, I’m now dreaming of an announcement by Ashley on the last day – I’m keeping the club, Shearer is now manager, and we have 5 players ready to complete deals… But then again, i’m dreaming.

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  • Shah

    Aug 30, 2009 at 7:13 PM

    Comment #23

    Please dont sell colo! we wont be left with any defenders!

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  • AngerOfTheNorth

    Aug 30, 2009 at 7:21 PM

    Comment #24

    For what it’s worth, here’s my take on Ashley, his motives, where the money’s gone etc…

    Firstly, Ashley’s no idiot, nor do I think he ever had any intention of purposefully ruining this club – his approach to the finances of the club have actually been very professional. If you remember, when he first turned up he brought in the experts, got them to work out a sustainable business model etc. He realised that we had too big a wage bill and debts that need to be paid off – that’s when most of the revenue from player sales have gone. If we’d have stayed up last season we’d have probably been close to becoming debt free, at which point we’d have been really well off as a club.

    However Ashley doesn’t know how to run a club and/or how to create a management team that gels. He forgets that football isn’t retail. In his attempt to make the club more financially sustainable he cut too close to the bone too fast in order to drive down the club’s debts and got us relegated.

    Now, having had a huge amount of abuse (quite rightly really) he wants to get rid of the club. It’s now purely a case of getting rid of the club and retrieving as much money as possible. So in order to help the likes of Moat buy the club, knowing that they’ll need to be assured that the club is financially sound (they too only care about the balance sheet) he’s going to offload high earners and sell more players to put the transfer funds again towards paying off the club’s debts. Whatever the state of the team may be, he’s doing the right thing for the balance sheet, which is now his only concern.

    I’m not for one second defending him, just trying to make sense of this mess. And the reason we have to do this is because the man has never really spoken to the fans to explain his actions at any point during his time here (expect maybe once or twice). For that at least, he’s shown that he has no idea how to run a football club.

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  • JinkyGenius

    Aug 30, 2009 at 7:24 PM

    Comment #25

    Is Coloccini a really useless footballer, or Xisco for that matter? I think not. NUFC buys these cultured players and expects them to come to terms with 12 months of an ever changing playing system under under ever changing managers at a club in crisis. It’s hardly his fault – imagine the shock of playing under JFK after the sophistication of Boca Juniors?

    Collo is good, seriously good, but we have never given him the conditions to blossom. Like Jonas, I suspect Hughton knows this lad’s worth and would like to keep him. It simply makes no sense to sell for £3m, or at least it makes the same sort of sense as paying £6m for Chopra (which is the equivalent of chucking £4m down the sewer).

    Collo is probably more technically talented that the rest of the current defence stood end to end and unless we get a stable and creative coaching system to integrate this sort of talent we should leave it well alone and just go for cloggers. It’s a bit like buying a Ferrari and complaining it doesn’t fit the whole family with weekly shopping in, so accepting an exchange deal for a Mondeo Estate instead.

    The same has been true for a string of players who excelled before and after NUFC, but hit an inexplicable blip when on Tyneside. JD Tomasson anyone? The club needs to take a long hard look at what we expect from such players before being so quick to condemn them, and make a huge loss in the process.

    I really hope Collo stays at the club and along with team mates Jonas, Enrique and Xisco we get an owner that appreciates and decides to utilise the talents we have paid so heavily for. With that quartet firing on all cylinders we would be unstoppable in both the CCC and the Prem.

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  • AngerOfTheNorth

    Aug 30, 2009 at 7:24 PM

    Comment #26

    Sorry – when I said about buyers like Moat, what I meant to say was that these buyers will need to convince the banks that the investment is okay and it is THEM that only see the club in terms of its balance sheet.

    Typing a bit too quickly there, sorry.

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  • AngerOfTheNorth

    Aug 30, 2009 at 7:33 PM

    Comment #27

    Jinky – You’re right to a point, but I think Coloccini wants to go. If nothing else I don’t think he’s suited to the English style of play and he gets turned over by strikers way too often. He may simply be unsuited to our game. I know what you’re saying, but no matter how skillful he might be, he still has to be able to carry out his basic role – to defend.

    He can dribble the ball out of defence twenty times in a game if he choses, but if he lets a striker skin him once or twice and score, it counts for nothing.

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  • Rodzilla

    Aug 30, 2009 at 7:33 PM

    Comment #28

    No way I’d let him go for 3m, unless we had two more decent CBs lined up. He’s better than O’Brien and I doubt Kilgallon even knows about any deal. It’s all likely to be rubbish anyway. It’s Sunday.

    “…….although his big advantage is he can play almost every game. He’s hardly ever injured and when we have a small squad, that gets to be important.”

    …what were you saying earlier about Murphy’s Law, Ed?

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  • ginkoh

    Aug 30, 2009 at 7:35 PM

    Comment #29

    Colo will be our useful squad this season because he look no trouble at all against CCC class attacker.

    However, if he leave, not much miss him but in erm of we can sign someone to replace his position. If we don’t want to sign any players so why should we sell him ? It’s very thin squad now and it will be worst of we do that.

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  • HarryWorth

    Aug 30, 2009 at 7:36 PM

    Comment #30

    “We’re not sure if the news that Newcastle want to sell Fabricio Coloccini for a £3M transfer to Fenerbahce is true, since we lose a cool £7M on his transfer in a short 12 months.”

    Not true Ed, Newcastle paid 10million Euros for Coloccini not pounds

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  • Alex

    Aug 30, 2009 at 7:37 PM

    Comment #31

    AngerOf TheNorth
    I would say that your take is just about spot on mate . Ashley just did not know what he was letting himself in for buying a football club and once Chris Mort left it was down hill all the way . Mort was the only person in Ashley’s regime that realised that the fans need to know what is happening at thier club . If he had let the fans know just how bad the books where from the outset then he would have bought himself some breathing space .

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  • AngerOfTheNorth

    Aug 30, 2009 at 7:37 PM

    Comment #32

    *Chooses, not choses

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  • Rodzilla

    Aug 30, 2009 at 7:37 PM

    Comment #33

    Jinky@25 “It’s a bit like buying a Ferrari and complaining it doesn’t fit the whole family with weekly shopping in, so accepting an exchange deal for a Mondeo Estate instead.”

    …like the analogy. I don’t think Coloccini is “seriously good” though. Although I’d like to have him for another season, ideally as backup for a better CB.

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  • bozo

    Aug 30, 2009 at 7:53 PM

    Comment #34

    Angerofthenorth are you stardust with a new name because you do talk the same rubbish he does. Ashley has managed the clubs finaces well? Very amusing and what a great plan of his to get the club relegated to help control wages. Just sad he never thought about keeping the wages under control when he sanctioned the signings of the likes of Xisco because the club have recieved a great return there. Complete pro ashley rubbish. Ashelys financial management of the club has been appaling and until relegation its estimated our costs increased over previous years.
    3 wins in a row and everything seems great but how long will it last. The best we can hope for is a lucky injury free season and promotion back to the premiership. Hopefully we can then attract a sugar daddy new owner who will be willing to meet Ashleys increased and twice what the club will be worth price, if not I see nothing better than us becomming a yo yo club.

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  • bill

    Aug 30, 2009 at 7:54 PM

    Comment #35

    I can’t wait for Tuesday to come and go. All of this rubbish in the papers can then be forgotten about, and only then will we know where this football club is going.

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  • Ton Army

    Aug 30, 2009 at 7:55 PM

    Comment #36
  • bill

    Aug 30, 2009 at 8:02 PM

    Comment #37

    Mike Ashley is an opportunist that just saw pound notes when he bought Newcastle.

    If anyone is still defending him they ought to go through the history of what he, or his minions have said and what they have done.

    A blind man on a galloping horse can see that he is a liar and a very dishonest person.

    If there is anyone still out there continuing to defend him after studying what he has done to our club I suggest that you seek medical help.

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  • Geordie-Gerrard7

    Aug 30, 2009 at 8:04 PM

    Comment #38

    weres these deals that were happening over the weekend, i also doubt if the bale thing can be agreed as arry is now without rat face luca.

    on a different note, im hanging out my ass with the worlds biggest hangover, havent had a hangover for years, and to be honest i cant say iv missed them

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  • bill

    Aug 30, 2009 at 8:11 PM

    Comment #39

    It wouldn’t surprise me if all of this talk about a takeover was total rubbish set in motion by Ashley’s cohorts.

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  • AngerOfTheNorth

    Aug 30, 2009 at 8:19 PM

    Comment #40

    Bill and Bozo (that’s got a bit of a ring to it), have another read of my post. I’m not defending Ashley whatsoever – I want him out as much as you lot do. He doesn’t know how to run a football club, which I explicitly said. He also seems to treat the fans with contempt, by never informing the fans of what is happening to the club they support – support without which the club would be worthless.

    What I’m trying to do is make some sense of all of this mess beyond the usual “Ashley’s a fat tw&t” messages. When trying to understand anything, always put yourself in the other person’s shoes and try to understand their motivation for what they’re doing.

    And you can drop the Stardust link. On top of everything else, that lad’s just wierd.

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