Newcastle Owner An Impediment To Promotion


If Newcastle players are going to be in a position to challenge for promotion come the January transfer window, they are going to have to do it with  the club being up for sale, just like last year,  and intermittent reports it is about to be sold – imminently.

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Mike Ashley – impediment to promotion

There is a report in the Journal this morning but it’s just going through the same old stuff,  and regurgitates the information about Barry Moat, and they report if he is the be the eventual buyer of the club, it will not be soon.

This follows a report in the Daily Telegraph on Saturday night saying that a sale was now imminent.

An alternative to curtailing the growing uncertainty is for Ashley to take the club off the market completely like he did last year, but he may leave the club up for sale , to allow Moat to continue at his snail’s pace, and have the coaches and the team fight through his continuing soap opera this season as they did last year.

We couldn’t  help ourselves from being relegated last season with the huge uncertainties of the Newcastle sale, and also having 4 different managers over the season didn’t help.

And now it seems the biggest impediment to promotion at the first attempt is again the owner himself, Mike Ashley.

This is beyond a joke.

One sign of a good businessman is that they make the difficult decisions with decisiveness in times of uncertainty.

But as we’ve said many times before, you could never accuse Mike of being decisive or good, as he continues to sit on the fence – about most things associated with the club.

And so the nonsense continues.

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69 comments so far

  • Partizan

    Sep 7, 2009 at 9:55 AM

    Comment #1

    Ashley doesn’t wanna sell,,,well at least not till January.If we make a big point margin till then,then for sure he’ll take the club off the market,cos he’ll know he could double the price or tripple it if we get promoted.

    Talk about loans,i’ve been following Benfica for the past 3-4 years and i know that if we push hard we could land this kid on a season loan.

    Name: Fabio Coentrao
    Position: LW & RW(sometimes)

    This video is 2 years ago and please check out some of his stunning moves especially the one on 1.03(i think)….reminds me of Duff while at Blackburn.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gm97bA4_aqk

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  • inselaffe

    Sep 7, 2009 at 9:55 AM

    Comment #2

    So what’s new?

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  • Rangerman

    Sep 7, 2009 at 10:04 AM

    Comment #3

    If he took the club off the market you would be moaning, Ed.

    The club is for sale and he’s named his price, the problem is in the current economical market people don’t want to spend huge sums of money on football clubs as they are not seen as a good investment.

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  • bozo

    Sep 7, 2009 at 10:05 AM

    Comment #4

    Ed your forget the sensible alternative leave the club on the market but run it correctly instead of clawing in whatever money he can in the transfer windows and spending nothing. In my opinion Ashley has us exactly where he wants us a championship club with a chance of promotion with some promising youngsters. If we manage to avoid injury to the squad and win promotion it will mean big bucks for the likes of Ranger, Krull and Vuckic then relegation and a nice parachute payment.

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  • Tal_nufc4eva

    Sep 7, 2009 at 10:06 AM

    Comment #5

    tbh if ashley sits on the fence wudnt it hav snapped by now? lets hope 1 day he falls of the fence and lands on his neck! this article is confusin. . . is a sale imminent or not???? hahaha bassong’s injured 🙂

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  • Stuart79

    Sep 7, 2009 at 10:06 AM

    Comment #6

    Ashley’s brother works for Sports Direct and he reckons he doesn’t want to sell.

    He’s happy to gamble we will be in the PL next year.

    Shows what he knows about football. This squad won’t finish in the top six.

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  • original kash

    Sep 7, 2009 at 10:09 AM

    Comment #7

    Well apparently all the press speculation about Moat not having the money is way off the mark. He has deep pockets himself, his backers have even deeper pockets and the only reason things have been held up is due to Barclays. Once he’s in, indeed Shearer will become manager with John Carver as his number 2.

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  • Yorick Hunt

    Sep 7, 2009 at 10:10 AM

    Comment #8

    Doocey;

    “half of what a hard working individual makes in half a year”

    Are you suggesting that anyone that doesn’t earn at least £60,000 per anum doesn’t work hard?
    Our farm makes less than a third of that in a year and has to support 6 people and all so hard working people like you can go to tesco and get the cheap meat you obviously deserve for working so hard. You clueless idiot

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  • Yorick Hunt

    Sep 7, 2009 at 10:13 AM

    Comment #9

    Sorry, that is something I posted last night on another thread but I wanted “Doocey” to see it. I know he has his own blog but I don’t want to give it any hits.

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  • Stuart79

    Sep 7, 2009 at 10:13 AM

    Comment #10

    Rangerman // Sep 7, 2009 at 10:04 AM

    If he took the club off the market you would be moaning, Ed.

    The club is for sale and he’s named his price, the problem is in the current economical market people don’t want to spend huge sums of money on football clubs as they are not seen as a good investment.

    What like Man City, Notts County, Southampton and Portsmouth?

    The simple fact is the club is over priced.

    If you had your house up for sale and the asking price was £500,000 and everyone who came to llok and were interested said i’ll offer you £400,000 because that’s what it’s worth what would you do?

    You’d lower the asking price – Unless you didn’t really want to move……..

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  • Geordie-Gerrard7

    Sep 7, 2009 at 10:13 AM

    Comment #11

    yorick- ill think your find he meant 15 thou a week is half what your average person makes a year, he wasnt slating no one.where did you get the 60 thou bit?

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  • Geordie-Gerrard7

    Sep 7, 2009 at 10:13 AM

    Comment #12

    anyway- who is going cardiff??

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  • Yorick Hunt

    Sep 7, 2009 at 10:18 AM

    Comment #13

    also nice to see you’re being as positive as ever stuart79.
    I must say I find you the most mundanely intense poster on this blog. A pessimistic know-it-all. Utterly mind-numbing.

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  • Matt

    Sep 7, 2009 at 10:22 AM

    Comment #14

    How can you blame Ashley for the hold up that’s ENTIRELY to do with barclays bank?

    You really are starting to worry me. The blog is going downhill rapidly with another story every day about the takeover and how you hate Ashley. We get it. Move on and talk about other things. Things that will inspire fans. Things that will bring everyone together to be united but not in hatred of the owner who we are STUCK with.

    Essentially, put up or shut up because I tire of seeing what is essentially the same story every day. If you can’t find enough articles etc to make a post then don’t post. Please stop filling the blog with Ashley is rubbish this and why won’t he sell that etc etc.

    You banged on for ages about Shearer and then flip flopped and are now in love with Hughton just because of a few good results which are NOTHING to do with his tactics.

    Have you seen our dreadful kick off routine? We just lump it up the wing and tell Jonas or whoever’s on the left to chase after it with no hope of ever getting the ball. It’s awful.

    If Ashley takes us off the market he will invest because it makes sense to his own investment. If he lets us languish in the Championship then our price will go down and down which will be catastrophic for him. He’s NOT a stupid business man, he may not know an epic amount about football but he isn’t retarded enough to let the club die. He can’t afford to lose the money he’s invested already and the only sensible options left are 1) sell it on and cut his losses or 2) invest more and have a second go at it.

    I’m happy with either option providing everyone can just shut up and get on with it.

    I’m sorry that this has been a massive rant but this kind of stupid attitude is doing no good to players, supporters and anyone involved in the club. It’s gone on too long. Get over it and get involved with what’s happening on the pitch instead.

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  • Stuart79

    Sep 7, 2009 at 10:26 AM

    Comment #15

    Yorick Hunt // Sep 7, 2009 at 10:18 AM

    also nice to see you’re being as positive as ever stuart79.
    I must say I find you the most mundanely intense poster on this blog. A pessimistic know-it-all. Utterly mind-numbing.

    What’s ya point?

    I am entitled to my opinion. As are you, but I won’t be little yours even though I find you a complete idiot.

    Has there ever been a more aptly named poster?

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  • Yorick Hunt

    Sep 7, 2009 at 10:28 AM

    Comment #16

    Geordie Gerrard if 15 is half what somebody makes in half a year, that means in half a year they make 30 and in a year they make 60….surely?

    Sorry its a bit off subject. It just p!55es me off how clueless some people are about the reality of other peoples lives. He’s obviously one of the zombie nation, he believes the media created illusion that is modern British society. One of the “Educated” masses.

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  • Geordie-Gerrard7

    Sep 7, 2009 at 10:29 AM

    Comment #17

    tbh matt- im with you there, there is no takeover on the horrizon, we have got rid of all, if not most of the mercenarys and this is the happiest i have been as a toon fan for a long time, since the sir bobby days, may be its because we are winning or maybe its because we have a good young sqaud, excellent as in vukic, ranger, simpson, godsmark, taylor, guthrie, carroll, jose, kadar, and krul.

    whats not to look forward to with youngsters like that??

    ed i personally really like your articles when you gather information on the youngsters and do a individual player watch on one of them a day.

    hope the op went well mate, you never stop!!

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  • Stuart79

    Sep 7, 2009 at 10:30 AM

    Comment #18

    Matt // Sep 7, 2009 at 10:22 AM

    If Ashley takes us off the market he will invest because it makes sense to his own investment. If he lets us languish in the Championship then our price will go down and down which will be catastrophic for him. He’s NOT a stupid business man, he may not know an epic amount about football but he isn’t retarded enough to let the club die. He can’t afford to lose the money he’s invested already and the only sensible options left are 1) sell it on and cut his losses or 2) invest more and have a second go at it.

    You could have posted exactly the same last December.

    He took the club off the market but then sold two of our best players and invested cock all to keep us in the PL.

    He doesn’t do things that make sense.

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  • Dragonera

    Sep 7, 2009 at 10:32 AM

    Comment #19

    GG7

    I am 100% with you there.

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  • frogeordie

    Sep 7, 2009 at 10:33 AM

    Comment #20

    With you all the way Matt.

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  • Dragonera

    Sep 7, 2009 at 10:33 AM

    Comment #21

    Stuart

    I doubt he will make the same mistake twice. That is if it even was a genuine mistake and not part of his long term plan. I too doubt MA is as stupid as people think.

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  • Geordie-Gerrard7

    Sep 7, 2009 at 10:33 AM

    Comment #22

    yorrick he meant 15 thou for 6 months meaning, 30 thou in a year, wich is just a above average.

    off topic, i get my tax return for 3 years and all my expenses, landing on my missus bday and she is happy to go see the family up home and go see us smash peterborough at home on the 7th of nov, im going cardiff this weekend, and then plym at home, then bristol at home, first few games of the season. bonus……

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  • Stuart79

    Sep 7, 2009 at 10:37 AM

    Comment #23

    Dragonera // Sep 7, 2009 at 10:33 AM

    Stuart

    I doubt he will make the same mistake twice. That is if it even was a genuine mistake and not part of his long term plan. I too doubt MA is as stupid as people think.

    Long term plan?

    What to totally alienate your best asset and potential cash cow?

    You say he’s not stupid. Actions speak louder than words I’m afraid.

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  • spiderpig

    Sep 7, 2009 at 10:37 AM

    Comment #24

    MATT- well said mate,thats the most sensible and realistic comment i have heard for about 12 months.i too am sick of all the whingeing idiots who claim to know exactly whats going on all the time,building everyone up into a crescendo of hatred ,based on half baked stories and rumour.i know its a blog and everyone is entitled to an opinion and if you dont like it then dont do it and all that crapola.but enough is enough.you can only read so much shite

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  • stevep

    Sep 7, 2009 at 10:38 AM

    Comment #25

    @Stuart79 – agree club is overpriced which is exactly what is putting off potential buyers as Ashley won’t budge.

    This squad is more than capable of finishing top two never mind top six – a lot depends on injuries, who we sell in Jan etc but even then I’d surprised if we finished lower than 6th – the championship is full of teams on squads as small as ours and few have quality throughout.
    If we can keep majority fit and play kids in cup competitions we should be okay – it’s only 46 games in the league after all (I play more games in a season than that and I’m 48!!!)

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  • Dragonera

    Sep 7, 2009 at 10:40 AM

    Comment #26

    Alienate your best asset? What, you mean the best asset that continues to turn up in their droves to home and away games?

    Like i said, he is clearly not stupid. He has drastically lowered the wage bill, and for the most part fixed a financial situation at the club at a time where the economic climate in general continues to suffer. I doubt an idiot could do that.

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  • Trent Toon

    Sep 7, 2009 at 10:41 AM

    Comment #27

    Partizan // Sep 7, 2009 at 9:55 AM

    Yer he is very talented, the only problem is the team he is versing is the New Zealand National team… Who are very physical but not too skilled or tactical, which gives him an easy edge over their lumbering defenders. Put him up agianst steven taylor or coloccini enrique or simpson and it could be a different story…

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  • Dragonera

    Sep 7, 2009 at 10:44 AM

    Comment #28

    I know it is far easier to just block out the facts and label the man a fool, but in truth, you don’t get to his position being an idiot.

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  • Geordie-Gerrard7

    Sep 7, 2009 at 10:44 AM

    Comment #29

    tbh- i wouldnt mind ashley staying he could bring moat in as the local investor he has craved, bring in a full time manger, keep hughton and calderwood on, bring in some loanees, and we will not drop out of the range of the top 4 of the championship, keeping us in touching distance untill jan, then go full bore at it with some signings in jan.

    dragonera- i havent had chance to ask you, what did you think of young nile the other day??

    i thought he was impeccable, that is how you lead the line by yourself as a forward. i also thought smith, jose and guthrie were all fantastic again, of all players this season im most excited about guthrie. two screamers in two games.

    and who would you like as manager, im in two minds mate!

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  • Partizan

    Sep 7, 2009 at 10:51 AM

    Comment #30

    Trent….like i said,its 2 years ago mate.

    Steven Taylor and Colo…hmmmmmm—try Bruno Alves 🙂

    http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=B7B3B6DE915ECAAF&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&v=Bvf5Ycv6od8

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  • Stuart79

    Sep 7, 2009 at 10:51 AM

    Comment #31

    So we needed to be relegated and reduce our turnover by 50% to get ourself in a better financial position?

    He could and should have done that in the PL.

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  • Mr Books

    Sep 7, 2009 at 10:52 AM

    Comment #32

    Ed,

    I think you’re stretching a bit there – just because all of his decisions have been shockingly bad, doesn’t make him indecisive.

    bozo,
    The club needed to claw as much as it could this window – we had a serious cash flow crisis, which is how we ended up with a £20 Million overdraft despite the overdraft being cleared a couple of seasons ago. Pat of this is because people are paying per match rather than buying season tickets and not buying merchandise – they see it as a way to force Ashly out or reduce the amount that he gets – I don’t, cash flow is the life blood of a business and right now those fans are making the club less attractive to investors and putting us in a positions where Ashley may have to invest more, this will up his price to get out and unfortunately hurt the club longer term.

    Stuart,

    If you believed that you could get £500,000 for the house eventually and didn’t have time constraints on selling it and you paid £600,000 for it in the first place, you might just hold out for the price, especially when you had seen 4 other houses sold. Doubly true when one of them was on the market for 18 months and the buyer did a bit of a hokey cokey over meeting the price, but got there in the end.

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  • Geordie-Gerrard7

    Sep 7, 2009 at 10:52 AM

    Comment #33

    http://www.nufc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10278~1789547,00.html

    the only one i would change is petr cech for schemichael

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  • Geordie-Gerrard7

    Sep 7, 2009 at 10:54 AM

    Comment #34

    also cn i add something when i was summing up earlier, i think a drop down divisions is exactly what jonas and colo needed, if we still have them next year id be very excited, espec with colo, he is a very cultured defender who just needs to switch on abit more, i think a year of full bore championship will do him great

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  • Partizan

    Sep 7, 2009 at 10:55 AM

    Comment #35

    Ally Cissoko aswell

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  • toonsy

    Sep 7, 2009 at 10:56 AM

    Comment #36

    GG7 – Im going to Cardiff mate

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  • Mr Books

    Sep 7, 2009 at 10:58 AM

    Comment #37

    BTW, The club is massively over priced based on its current state (technically it is worthless as the last set of accounts show it having liabilities £30 Million more than assets and I know he hasn’t turned that around in the last 12 months). Ashley is looking to get paid based on it achieving some of its potential. If he can’t get that now, then his beast chance is to invest as little as he can get away with to try and get us back to the premiership – which I think is what he is doing by trying to use loans to get to Jan and then see from there either sale wise or investment wise.

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  • Geordie-Gerrard7

    Sep 7, 2009 at 11:02 AM

    Comment #38

    it will be a great game toonsy, cant wait.

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  • Stuart79

    Sep 7, 2009 at 11:02 AM

    Comment #39

    Well I’m sick and tired of hearing from the Ashley apologist on this blog!

    He’s made a joke of this club and we have been relegated, yet some on here think he’s been great and relegation is the best thing that has ever happened to us! Get real and open your eyes. Maybe even go to SJP on a match day.

    This squad is just not big enough. Lets have this conversation in January when Ashley still refuses to invest any money and we are down to having 11 first teamers fit!

    You all need to get in the real world!

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  • Dragonera

    Sep 7, 2009 at 11:04 AM

    Comment #40

    GG7

    Im off out now, mate. But if you are on later i will give you my opinion on the things you just mentioned then.

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