No Newcastle Signings Until Next Week At Best

Well it looks like you cannot accuse Newcastle of moving quickly to increase the size of their woefully inadequate squad, since the loan window opened yesterday.

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Sam Vokes – 19 year-old Welsh International striker

It looks like Chris Hughton is unlikely to have any new additions to the Newcastle United squad before Sunday’s trip to Cardiff City.

One reason for that is top striker target Marlon Harewood is injured until next Monday at the earliest.

Wolves striker Sam Vokes, who was a Sam Allardyce target when the youngster was still at Bournemouth back in January of 2008, has emerged as a possible signing for the club.

Vokes could have been at Newcastle now, if Sam hadn’t got the sack before he brought in any new players that January, and we also failed to move for him in the summer of 2008 when Wolves snapped him up.

The 6’2″ Welsh striker has already played for Wales 11 times and scored 2 goals.

Hughton is looking to boost his defensive options, by adding a center-back to the squad, and Manchester United youngster Craig Cathcart is a possible loan signing.

But we’re surpised he hasn’t been snapped up on loan,  after he failed his medical last week in a proposed £1.75M permanent transfer,  for the Northern Ireland U21 International.

But it seems like Chris expects no new faces before the trip to Cardiff, for the game on Sunday, leaving the squad much more stretched than we even were last season.

Starting on Sunday we have 7 games in 20 days and any injuries will seriously deplete the squad.

In the summer we lost 10 first team players and brought in just Danny Simpson, on loan from the Red Devils until January, if you assume Peter Lovenkrands never went anywhere.

What’s wrong with this picture?

38 comments so far

  • waddles millet

    Sep 9, 2009 at 11:16 AM

    Comment #1


  • sirjasontoon

    Sep 9, 2009 at 11:23 AM

    Comment #2

    I am not expecting many loan signings….most players we have been linked to I have little knowledge about them anyway…the Ashley way has been clear since he arrived and transfer planning and strategy is never very high on the agenda.

    Anyway I heard that the scouts had their national express season tickets cancelled so maybe this has hindered things.

  • Bigbadbob

    Sep 9, 2009 at 11:25 AM

    Comment #3

    It looked like Hughton had targets in the transfer window but they were all blocked by Lambias for reasons not yet explained and no doubt this will happen again as it seems the board and team manager are not acting in unison.
    With no director of football, chief scout, money, direction or plan, i would be amazed if we bring anyone in at all.

  • premier

    Sep 9, 2009 at 11:27 AM

    Comment #4

    even waiting for scraps in loan market

  • Rangerman

    Sep 9, 2009 at 11:32 AM

    Comment #5

    The way people go on you would think they were expecting us to make 6 or 7 loan signings yesterday.

    The club will make one or two, with the option of adding more if we pick up any longer term injuries.

  • JinkyGenius

    Sep 9, 2009 at 11:47 AM

    Comment #6

    What’s wrong with this picture? Technically, Bazza & chum Azza if we boil it down to essentials. Bazza has strung along the club with his half-assed purchase for months, Barclay’s put the tighteners on him as his lack of funds scares them (me too). In the time players should have being sourced (ie the close season) Azza had switched the office lights out, with only our eBay selling department contactable.

    Squad strengthening? Injuries? Hello!!! Wakey, wakey…. It’s too late now. Loan players should be a last resort, not a fundamental strategic plan. The money was there in the Summer from sales, but (as Bigbadbob says) no-one trusted Chris Hughton with it so he was sidelined with a few bob pocket money to keep him quiet while blogs all and sundry whinged on about not making the famous St James’ ‘appointing an ex-caretaker manager with no experience’ mistake – while shouting to the rooftops to ‘appoint an ex caretaker manager with no experience’ (except he’s the son of god or used to play for us or something so it’s different).

    Next floor Cardiff – then going down….. Once Chris is sacked by the chosen one’s minions someone sign him to write the story of what really happened during the cold summer of ’09.

  • vivadavidkelly

    Sep 9, 2009 at 11:55 AM

    Comment #7

    with the players available at present, we dont need any players before the cardiff game, with no new injuries and carroll and lovenkrands back in squad our team will be very strong. any mentioned loan players i doubt would feature anyway, due to the form of those in the starting xi. thats not to say we dont need any in long term but its not essential for this weekend

  • Bill F

    Sep 9, 2009 at 12:02 PM

    Comment #8

    Vivadavidkelly, totally agree we do have a good squad and with many of the youngsters who I think, could step up now (some of the are nineteen years of age, when do they stop being youngsters) I believe we are in a better position than many of the doommongers think.

  • Whumpie

    Sep 9, 2009 at 12:06 PM

    Comment #9

    Quite: there’s nothing wrong with this picture.

    Firstly, the market has been open for a massive total of ONE DAY.

    Secondly, we don’t have a crisis. Yet. Why pay more wages before you need to?

    If it was me, I’d like to lower the risk by getting a couple of players in, but with all the takeover talk, I’m not surprised that they’re holding back until injuries actually occur.

    Let’s not panic. Yes, this is a risky game to play, but if the main objective is to make the club more saleable, it does make some sense.

  • salmone

    Sep 9, 2009 at 12:07 PM

    Comment #10
  • waddles millet

    Sep 9, 2009 at 12:08 PM

    Comment #11

    majorly bad i have been to all home games this season and we are badly badly lacking wingers in jonas absence. a stephen glass type player would suit us brilliant IMO. And baird defensive cover would be good to would’nt mind the mackem player either healy.

  • Macas35

    Sep 9, 2009 at 12:12 PM

    Comment #12

    We haven’t got a fit experienced striker or any fit wingers, so I’m not sure why people are so confident for an away game to one of our promotion rivals. Carrol and Lovenkrands won’t be quite ready yet so we could have done with some quality up front.

  • lesh

    Sep 9, 2009 at 12:18 PM

    Comment #13

    Seven games in 20 days will put a lot of strain on an already weak squada and that is precisely why we need players in quickly.

    New players need to bed in and a repeat of history with players coming in on the last day of the window (it’s Novemeber remember) does not bode well for progress!

  • Whumpie

    Sep 9, 2009 at 12:20 PM

    Comment #14

    I agree that we really need a winger; we’ve not got a single experienced, specialist, fit winger right now – and it really shows.

  • original kash

    Sep 9, 2009 at 12:21 PM

    Comment #15

    A little inside gossip for you boys. The first team squad isn’t being run by Hughton &/or Calderwood, but by 3 first team players who are Smith, Barton and Nolan. Apparently these 3 players are dictating training sessions & methods, times to eat as a collective, hotels to stay at when playing away etc etc. I couldn’t believe it when I was told. So the success we’ve had is actually down to these 3 players!

    It was also mentioned that these players may even have a big say in which players sign on loan for us!!!

  • Rangerman

    Sep 9, 2009 at 12:24 PM

    Comment #16

    Seven games in 20 days will put a lot of strain on an already weak squada and that is precisely why we need players in quickly.


    Won’t that be the same for other championship clubs too?

    Or have they all got much bigger, more experienced squads than us?

  • broon ale

    Sep 9, 2009 at 12:25 PM

    Comment #17

    original kash, that sounds like a load of original gash to me like buddy… i dont suppose barton put himself on the bench for the first game of the season did he.?

  • Rangerman

    Sep 9, 2009 at 12:27 PM

    Comment #18

    I agree that we really need a winger; we’ve not got a single experienced, specialist, fit winger right now – and it really shows.

    Geremi and Ryan Taylor are both experienced wingers tbf, I would of thought Taylor will go out on the wing when Colo gets back from International duty unless Hughton is happy having Guthrie out there.

    His tactics are based around us having a more compact midfield with the fullbacks being the one’s getting forward and putting balls in anyway IMO.

  • lesh

    Sep 9, 2009 at 12:34 PM

    Comment #19


    Might it not be the case that the trio you said were running things may be the players’ committee that’s been mentioned in the recent past.

    If so, they’re probably not running the show as you describe but may just be taking up an invitation to have an input into it?

    If that is the case and Barton in paricular is one of the three, then it may account for the obvious changes in attitudes and commitment of he and Smith.

    Again, if it is the case that they are the committee and they’re having an input, then that’s good management on Hughton and Calderwoods’ part.

  • original kash

    Sep 9, 2009 at 12:40 PM

    Comment #20

    Quite ironic really considering that these 3 players were absolutely rubbish last year!!

  • lesh

    Sep 9, 2009 at 12:44 PM

    Comment #21

    And Kash (20), if it is the case that they are the committee, then it goes a long way to explaining why they’re not so rubbish this year!

    Does anyone have any insight into the rumoured players’ committee – fact or fiction?

  • chuck

    Sep 9, 2009 at 12:49 PM

    Comment #22

    Soh ! no need to worry, is it ?
    Sure we are going to ace the Champ`s league then give the top PL teams a run for their money eh?
    What are you people, delusional ?
    At present we are looking for scraps not only from the PL but any league.
    Look , there`s obviously no plan, it`s day by day
    stuff, just dont spend any money and eventually some shmuck will buy the club, let him take care of it.
    Yeah we are top of the league, but dont let that fool you, this club needs rebuilding and is still short of bodies.
    Could you imagine going into the PL with this bunch ?, it would be a quick cup of coffee and back to the fizzy.
    As stated this club needs rebuilding from top to bottom.
    Some of the kids may make it, but in general you cant depend on that as a policy for promotion, there has to be a solid plan, something that has obviously been missing since MA took control, not going to get into Llambias (a disaster)
    Sorry folks as long as these same screwups are in control , dont expect anything but chaos and same old same old.
    C`mon you been watching the show for the last two years now, how long does it take before the penny drops ?

  • pubcat

    Sep 9, 2009 at 12:51 PM

    Comment #23

    It depends on whether the youngsters can be blended in. A lot of the 10 who left us didn’t play or were injured a lot. If we can bring on the ‘kids’, we could find ourselves with a better choice of squad than last season.

    I can totally understand CH/CC going with experience though mixing it up just a little more may not be a bad thing. Or take off a couple of the more experienced players a good half an hour before the end of games if we can afford to do that, and bring on a couple of the young subs.
    Maybe replace, say, Butt with Vuckic after 60 minutes and Colo or Jose with Kadar for example? But also ease in other subs in other games, Donaldson, Baheng, Lua Lua, Morris and the like?

    We still need a few loans in though, of course.

  • Macas35

    Sep 9, 2009 at 12:52 PM

    Comment #24

    Rangerman – They are what I would call right sided midfielders not wingers, and Geremi hasn’t really got the legs to play there anymore. And I think Hughton’s tactics are based more on the fact that we have no players, so he has to form his team around our obvious deficiencies, hence the compact midfield and lone striker.

  • Johno Toon

    Sep 9, 2009 at 1:01 PM

    Comment #25

    I would like a few new faces in myself but im not too worried just yet , once players come back to fitness we should be alright in most positions but 2-3 more experienced players on loan wouldnt do any harm,

    Dunno why people are complaing about lack of transfer activity really as most of the players who would come to us now would they be good enough if we get back to the premier league? Why not get players in on loan who are good enough for the championship and then not have them on the books if we get promoted?

  • Big Dave

    Sep 9, 2009 at 1:11 PM

    Comment #26

    original kash @ 15 I have been saying the same thing from we started the season that it wasnt all down to CH i said that Calderwood had alot to do with it, and that the senior players had more to do with the change in the squad. That is one of the reasons that I dont think CH would make a top manager he lacks the steel needed, but while they and the senior are all pulling in the one direction that is great but a manager shouldnt have to rely on the seniors to do part of his job.

  • dave 1961

    Sep 9, 2009 at 1:16 PM

    Comment #27

    if true it should not be held against Chris or Colin as its the results that count, if it did not work that’s when you question anything. and the players look fit, so if true keep up the good work.

  • Big Dave

    Sep 9, 2009 at 1:20 PM

    Comment #28

    Lesh i will try to find you a few articles and interviews later where it is mentioned about the committee I am 99% sure it was formed after our pre season hammering at leyton orient. I do know there was a bit of a bust up afterwards with different players being blamed of not caring

  • Big Dave

    Sep 9, 2009 at 1:28 PM

    Comment #29

    oh along with the 3 mentioned already, Butt and Harper are on the committee aswell

  • lesh

    Sep 9, 2009 at 1:40 PM

    Comment #30

    Big Dave and dave 1961, if you’re sceptical about whether player input indicates weak management on CH/ CCs’ behalf, I’d disagree as it’s well documented that a good manager, in whatever type of business will encourage and staff buy in and ‘ownership’ as a means of motivation.

    If that’s happened in this case, I’d say it is good management, a strength not a weakness.

    I wonder if the Peter Druckers of this site (Whumpie and Stardust) might like to comment?

  • Bigbadbob

    Sep 9, 2009 at 1:43 PM

    Comment #31

    Kash – what you say may or not be true but it makes sense, Hughton is taking the credit but even on the pitch its Smith/Nolan sorting it out which is how it should be.
    What my biggest worry is is that everything is off the cuff, player sales and purchases (?), manager and players in the dark, buffoon of a chairman and owner, no plan at all anywhere.
    My heart says that this is because the club is being sold but my head is telling me to prepare for another shite season.

  • lesh

    Sep 9, 2009 at 1:48 PM

    Comment #32

    BigbadBob….. What my biggest worry is is that everything is off the cuff, player sales and purchases (?), manager and players in the dark, buffoon of a chairman and owner, no plan at all anywhere

    Agreed, totally and I believe that the CH/CC partnership deserve full credit for what they and the players have done at this early stage of the season and more to the point, under the difficult circumstances you’ve described.

  • cagne

    Sep 9, 2009 at 3:29 PM

    Comment #33

    I say let the youngsters have the chance they deserve, why mention bringing in Vokes? He’s only 19. With Carrol and Ameobi to return and with Lovenkrands to boot we still have Ranger(18), Donaldson (18) and young Vuckic (17) Not including LuaLua and Baheng (19). let them have a couple of games duirng the next 3 weeks. This loan period is ‘Emergency’ and right now we are sitting top of the league with only a couple of injuries. In 24 days time, after the matches, lets look at the situation again.

  • punk skunk...

    Sep 9, 2009 at 4:07 PM

    Comment #34

    At least that gives us a bit more time to fit just a tad more moanin’ in!..


  • punk skunk...

    Sep 9, 2009 at 4:09 PM

    Comment #35

    Maybe NUFC could make use of that debt management ad at the top of the page?..
    …& maybe get the debt wiped, usin’ a little know loop hole?..

  • punk skunk...

    Sep 9, 2009 at 4:09 PM

    Comment #36


    ..’ave it!..

  • Mag_Laad

    Sep 9, 2009 at 4:28 PM

    Comment #37


    This annoys me bring King in and Baird ARRGGHH!!! Why are we willing to blood other teams youngsters and not our own? We neeeed EXPERIENCE! KING & BAIRD!

  • repo

    Sep 10, 2009 at 9:25 AM

    Comment #38

    The Holland Under 21 keeper said: ‘Chris Hughton just wants to keep everybody happy, especially the experienced lads. He doesn’t want any disputes with them – he has said so himself.
    ‘So right now we simply need a new manager. It will be better for me and for everybody

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