Keegan, Ashley Fight It Out But Newcastle Club Destroyed


Several newspapers this morning are reporting that Kevin Keegan and Newcastle owner Mike Ashley will finally meet each other tomorrow in a Premier League arbitration panel.

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Kevin Keegan – twice former Newcastle manager – but never again

In case we need a review of the case, Keegan, who is now an analyst for Premier League football at ESPN,  left St James’ Park a year ago, and is claiming around £8M for constructive dismissal.

Ashley in return has put in a counter-claim in of £2M for breach of contact.

Before we go any further let’s just say that regardless of who was at fault, their disagreement was pinnacle in the famous Newcastle club now being in the second tier of English Football, and that’s the serious backdrop to this case.

Tomorrow a Premier League arbitration panel will sit in judgement, with fears that the dispute could even go to the High Court.  Oh no!

Keegan’s £8m claim, Newcastle’s oversized overdraft facility with Barclays Bank, and the massive wage bill of around £45M, are said to be the three major reasons why Ashley has not been able to sell the Newcastle club for £100M.

One of these problems may be sorted out tomorrow -but how Keegan can expect £8M, from a Championship club in finanancial trouble, is completely beyond us – when he after all is the one who left.

We know that because Ashley made a last dramatic attempt the Friday evening before the Hull City game ( a year ago yesterday), to get Kevin back, but that failed,

That hardly looks like an owner who fired his manager, which is what the Keegan camp is claiming.

Do you think mature managers like Mark Hughes or the like, would walk out on their clubs? But as we all know this is not the first time this has happened in Keegan’s football management career, which will count against him in this case.

He even walked out on England, when we were beaten by Germany 1-0 in a World Cup qualifier – and these are pure facts and not our opinion.

But at this stage it’s all about who’s right between the two men, since no agreement could be reached between them – but let’s remind both of them that life isn’t always about being right.

One good saying for any marriage is that you can either be right or happy.

That means one spouse can ensure they win all the arguments etc in the marriage, but the marriage will hardly be a happy one, far better to give and take a little, and the likelihood of a successful marriage then goes up dramatically.

The same applies to these business arguments, which are based purely on ego – and let’s be clear that this is one that’s based completely on ego.

Quite honestly we don’t give a dam who’s right now, because the argument and the resulting departure of manager Keegan after just 3 league games last season, is the one event that started Newcastle’s dramatic decline, from which we are only just recovering – maybe.

If only these people would put the club before themselves.

By the way I know of which I speak – my wife Madeline (a Geordie) and I will celebrate 37 years of marriage together next month – and yes that’s right – I didn’t win all the arguments. 😀

Comments welcome.



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68 comments so far

  • Stuart79

    Sep 13, 2009 at 9:31 AM

    Comment #1

    Don’t want him to win as the club cannot afford it, but on the other hand Ashley’s a prick and deserves everything he gets.

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  • Hugh Jorgan

    Sep 13, 2009 at 9:31 AM

    Comment #2

    Kevin Keegan loves Newcastle United ?
    My arse.

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  • Bucks mag

    Sep 13, 2009 at 9:40 AM

    Comment #3

    As much as he was a hero, this is going to weaken us further. 8m gone that could have been spent on tranfers? Maybe not under Ashley, but as highlighted by Ed our finances need to be in tip top condition for takeovers. On another note, going to Cardiff today from Gerrards Cross, 1st game of the season. Howay the lads!

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  • sirjasontoon

    Sep 13, 2009 at 9:43 AM

    Comment #4

    Pay up Cashley…..you should never of appointed Dennis Wise,Kept your fat face out of 1st team matters and non of this would have happened.

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  • sirjasontoon

    Sep 13, 2009 at 9:44 AM

    Comment #5

    That 8m would never have went on players…just blasted on a trendy mayfair roulette wheel.

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  • spiderpig

    Sep 13, 2009 at 9:50 AM

    Comment #6

    maybe finally we will learn the truth

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  • Mags

    Sep 13, 2009 at 9:52 AM

    Comment #7

    ………….”If only these people would put the club before themselves” ……..

    Ed summed up in one sentence.

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  • BillyfromConsett

    Sep 13, 2009 at 9:53 AM

    Comment #8

    Keegan was completely undermind by Ashley. We could have gone places under Keegan, if only had Ashley paid the man some respect.

    I am totally supportive of Keegan, who was constructively dismissed, however you want to analysis Keegan’s life in football.
    If Ashley has to pay KK some compensation, good! It certainly won’t be spent on players – the Hertfordshire pig, if by some miracle bought anybody, would go for the next Xisco or Gonzalez. He has no football brain.

    I think this piece is quite poor in all honesty. Our club has the interest it has due to the combined efforts of Sir John Hall’s business sense and Kevin Keegan’s football knowledge of finding good players and getting them to work.

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  • nzedtoonman

    Sep 13, 2009 at 9:58 AM

    Comment #9

    Keegan only has one thing , no two things on his mind , his gigantic EGO and his ENORMOUS bank balance , he doesn’t hgive a hoot aboot the toon , time for all the lads and lasses who called their cherished daughters and dogs ‘ Keegan ‘ to go and get their names chganged by deed poll to SHEARER or RANGER …soon….

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  • goosegog

    Sep 13, 2009 at 10:02 AM

    Comment #10

    i hope he doesnt get a penny.biggest bottler in football.he doesnt give a toss about the club

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  • will die for the toon army

    Sep 13, 2009 at 10:02 AM

    Comment #11

    I wish KK loses. i dont care abt MA. ITs the club they are taking to the panel not MA

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  • HarryWorth

    Sep 13, 2009 at 10:02 AM

    Comment #12

    This will be a one sided fight. Keegan backed by the LMA will wipe the floor with Ashley , the complete truth about NUFC under the ownership of Ashley will come out.
    It will be a sad day for all of those who are only too willing to bend over and pucker their ar$e for Ashley.

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  • JinkyGenius

    Sep 13, 2009 at 10:04 AM

    Comment #13

    £8m more for transfers, Bucks mag? I suppose we could add that to £18m war chest (£20m, who knows?) from Martins, Duff and Bassong that (curiously & mysteriously) went missing during the recent transfer window and has so far failed to redeem the £20m overdraft (the other obstacle to sale).

    KK, for once, was right to walk. He had pulled the club out of a nose dive the previous season, and even after the exit he would have returned is Ashley had muzzled Wise, or had him humanely destroyed (as he had to do in the end anyway to appease Shearer).

    If KK is owed £8m, so be it, it won’t make a jot of difference to NUFC’s market value (or rather MA’s imagined market value, which are two entirely different things). Personally I’d rather see KK back instead of Wise in the vacant director of football post (oh, the irony of it), with Chris and Colin promoted to continental style head coaches organising training, selection & tactics (especially defence; nothing personal, you understand, Kev).

    If we offered him the position, he’d LOVE it – and probably waive the settlement. Now that WOULD be a neat solution!!

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  • will die for the toon army

    Sep 13, 2009 at 10:06 AM

    Comment #14

    We have debts and all that sh#t so f!@k KK

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  • dave 1961

    Sep 13, 2009 at 10:10 AM

    Comment #15

    he’s always found it easier to walk than stay and fight, not the person you would want in a trench next to you in Afghanistan. he is totally gutless, saying that he was right when when he claimed the squad was not good enough. and xisco did prove to be a total waste of money.

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  • catchy in norway

    Sep 13, 2009 at 10:10 AM

    Comment #16

    ed your making it sound like its keegan v nufc,,, when we all know its keegan v cashley,, it just so happens that cashley is playing with the toons money,,, as someone has rightly said,, we would not get the 8m to spend anyway,, the guy is full of WOW. with his wow signings,,

    100% behind keegan,, yes he walked out,, but i believe both times he had good right to..

    but why dont we all focus on the fact that he walked out..
    ed congrats on your marrage, but can you give me any other situation where you would stay just to keep the peace,, there isnt one..

    good luck keegan

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  • will die for the toon army

    Sep 13, 2009 at 10:16 AM

    Comment #17

    Not a bad idea Jinky, but i remember when KK got the DoF post at Fulham he ende up being the Manager and fired the Manager

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  • will die for the toon army

    Sep 13, 2009 at 10:22 AM

    Comment #18

    I think AL wld have stayed that is the love of the Club I talk abt. Look at The late Sir Bobby he also stayed under difficult situations.You see a former Spurds has hang on.

    This is btn the Club Vs. KK and I will always fight for the club.

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  • HarryWorth

    Sep 13, 2009 at 10:26 AM

    Comment #19

    I think AL wld have stayed that is the love of the Club I talk abt. Look at The late Sir Bobby he also stayed under difficult situations.You see a former Spurds has hang on.

    This is btn the Club Vs. KK and I will always fight for the club.

    Is there something wrong with your keyboard or your brain?

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  • JinkyGenius

    Sep 13, 2009 at 10:29 AM

    Comment #20

    will die for the toon army // Sep 13, 2009 at 10:16 AM

    ….when KK got the DoF post at Fulham he ende up being the Manager and fired the Manager

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    Good point, WDFTTA. Life is never simple, which is why we love it so, but forewarned is forearmed! Now onto the meat of this….

    will die for the toon army // Sep 13, 2009 at 10:22 AM

    This is btn the Club Vs. KK and I will always fight for the club.

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    By ‘the Club’ you mean Mike Ashley, don’t you? NUFC is his club and his financial / commercial responsibility no matter how attached you might be. His appalling captaincy alone ran the good ship NUFC onto the Black Middens, and he has already jettisoned valuable cargo to refloat the boat. To expect a wronged employee to give up their rights ‘for the good of the community’ when he isn’t prepared to drop the price of the club when the disaster is of his making is exactly what pit owners a hundred years ago expected injured employees to do, hence why we needed unions (and still do).

    NUFC, the club and the wider community, will survive beyond Ashley only if supporters back the core ethics and sense of fair play that is at the heart of the region. KK, for all his faults, restored pride to this area and would still be here but for Ashley. Don’t let Ashley’s pit owner propaganda turn your head regardless of your feelings for KK.

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  • stevep

    Sep 13, 2009 at 10:29 AM

    Comment #21

    It’s KK vs the Toon – He wasn’t Ashleys personal shopper, he was manager of Newcastle.
    To be honest I think KKs’ a bnit of a joke over this, if i went for a job and got it but then thought hmmm they didn’t tell me this at interview I’d just leave and look for another job (happens all the time) – how come KK wants his full contract value, it’s a joke he only came back to get cash for his bankrupt soccer circus

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  • stevep

    Sep 13, 2009 at 10:31 AM

    Comment #22

    @Jinky – you’re being blinkered by the legend of KK – 1st time around, he was a spoilt brat second time and walked as soon as he found out he couldnt spend 100 million on over the hill players

    Ashley out

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  • JinkyGenius

    Sep 13, 2009 at 10:40 AM

    Comment #23

    Stevep,

    We all want the Ashley regime out, it’s mitigating the mess he will leave behind that is exercising us.

    A surgical military strike would be preferred. After all, the two major targets are surely fat enough to be seen easily from the most primitive spy satellites these days?

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  • will die for the toon army

    Sep 13, 2009 at 10:42 AM

    Comment #24

    Guys, its MA’s Newcastle, Abromavich’s Chelsea, Glazers’ Manure, Levi’s Spurs… Thats why they are called the owners.

    The late Sir Bobby said it we can all forgive MA cause he put his money in but we cant forgive Wise, Jimenez because they had to run the Club. Mort did his job. Its all down to poor management.

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  • stevep

    Sep 13, 2009 at 10:57 AM

    Comment #25

    to be honest if Fat Ash can sell the club and we’re rid of the fat bugger, KK shuts up and goes back to his circus and Shearer goes and learns the trade we’ll be fine – Championship is great as long as we keep winning and to get rid of those overpaid asses is great for the club.
    Unless you can spend like Man City / Chelsea / Spurs there is no chance of competing in prem so we’d be piddling around mid table yet again
    then again we’ll be doing that next year – lets enjouy championship winning season – howay the lads

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  • stevep

    Sep 13, 2009 at 11:01 AM

    Comment #26

    btw: if KK bizarrely wins the case you can expect toon to sell players in Jan to cover the cost – we dont have any one player worth that so we’ll have to sell a few

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  • doofa the loofa

    Sep 13, 2009 at 11:13 AM

    Comment #27

    yeah that right ed harrison. keven keegan destroyed newcastle united. yet again your idiotic opinion surfaces.
    hope king kev gets his 8m. all he wanted was a left back ffs, dont think any of you kk slaters would have worked under the conditions he had to put up with. water under the bridge now tho, good luck to him.
    8m wouldn’t stop a real sale. not unless the buyer couldn’t even come up with the 20m down payment. but who’d want a buyer that cash poor any way.

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  • doofa the loofa

    Sep 13, 2009 at 11:15 AM

    Comment #28

    kk will win. just a matter of 6m or 8m. ma broke the terms, not kk.

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  • sirjasontoon

    Sep 13, 2009 at 11:19 AM

    Comment #29

    I remember the Keegan press conference…”we could break the transfer record etc”Clearly Mike lied from square 1.

    He was made a mockery of from the moment he met with Mike and Co.

    He has bottled jobs I agree…and when he said the squad aint good enough he was telling the truth.

    Any man with balls who is undermined by a little prick like wise would just say “Stick the Job where the sun don’t shine…i am offski’s!!”

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  • punk skunk...

    Sep 13, 2009 at 11:21 AM

    Comment #30

    Well said Ed…

    …keegan, think of the club you claim to love, you ponce!..Haddaway with ya’!..

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  • batty

    Sep 13, 2009 at 11:29 AM

    Comment #31

    i hope keegan get the full 8 mill

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  • batty

    Sep 13, 2009 at 11:29 AM

    Comment #32

    JinkyGenius // thats the 1st time ive agrred with 1 of your posts lol

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  • batty

    Sep 13, 2009 at 11:30 AM

    Comment #33

    ASHLEY OOT AND OWL HEED TOO

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  • dave 1961

    Sep 13, 2009 at 11:58 AM

    Comment #34

    Chris hughton has worked under worse conditions than keegan and he has not walked, if keegan needs to control all aspects of a club he should have bought one. otherwise he’s an employee.

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  • batty

    Sep 13, 2009 at 12:06 PM

    Comment #35

    and if fat ash couldnt afford to run a football club he should have brought a subbuteo game

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  • sirjasontoon

    Sep 13, 2009 at 12:07 PM

    Comment #36

    Ashley Oot…I hope Keegan gets 10m…Cos Mike wasted his time,never backed him 100%,tried to flog his squad behind his back,undermined him in every aspect of football management…I could go on…..zzzzzzz.

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  • premier

    Sep 13, 2009 at 12:13 PM

    Comment #37

    £8m going rate for a Messiah surely?

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  • sirjasontoon

    Sep 13, 2009 at 12:18 PM

    Comment #38

    Mike only bought it to show off to Dave Whelan his arch enemy at JJB and Wigan..Newcastle was bought on a whim with very little though in my opinion…the more this club continues to bite Ashley on the ass it makes me happy.

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  • sirjasontoon

    Sep 13, 2009 at 12:19 PM

    Comment #39

    Premier Troll….don’t feed lads he is obviously lonely.

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  • punk skunk...

    Sep 13, 2009 at 12:22 PM

    Comment #40

    keegan is a soft, yorkshire, cry-baby, with a history of runnin’ away when the goin’ gets tough…Or the money gets better!..

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