Ranger and Guthrie Changed The Game – Hughton

Chris Hughton this afternoon changed the game in Newcastle’s favor by the substitutions he introduced close on 60 minutes.

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Ranger – helped to change the game this afternoon
With the score at 1-1 approaching the hour mark and Newcastle fans becoming increasingly nervous, it was still anybody’s game.

Then Chris Hughton decided to  throw on his two remaining substitutes as Danny Guthrie and Nile Ranger were charged with the task of getting the 3 points for Newcastle.

The game was a lot closer than it should have been on 60 minutes with Plymouth previously having only gained 2 points in their first 7 games.

And within a couple of minutes Newcastle got their second goal.

Kevin Nolan bundled the ball home from Guthrie’s far-post cross with Ranger  also involved in the build-up.

Hughton admits the two subs were important in securing the win which took the side up to second in the table, behind WBA.

Chris talked to Newcastle United TV after the game:

“I think it’s fair to say Danny and Nile have changed the game,”

“When you make changes you hope they make an impact, sometimes they do and sometimes they don’t.”

“Thankfully, they did make a major impact. “We needed that Kevin Nolan goal and it encouraged the lads.”

Nolan’s goal, which was followed by a great Andy Carroll strike on 84 minutes to make sure of the points, came after Karl Duguid (50) had cancelled out Steven Taylor’s (6) opener.

And Hughton added:

“There were periods of the game where we made hard work of it.”

“I am disappointed because we started the game really well. Apart form the goal, we played at a very good tempo at the start of the game.”

“For whatever reason, we weren’t able to sustain it and of course the long the game goes without getting that second one, they are lifted by the occasion and feel they can get something.”

It wasn’t an accomplished performance, but a win is a win, and we now have 19 points from our first 8 games – not too bad.

51 comments so far

  • NewcastleMole

    Sep 19, 2009 at 6:43 PM

    Comment #1

    Butt Dropped, Newcastle Win

  • jonny

    Sep 19, 2009 at 6:44 PM

    Comment #2

    just got back from the game and im worried.

    was telling my dad we need to press forward after the lead and take the game but we just didnt at all. kept an eye on barton after some of you had been saying hed been sub standard and i thought he was shocking. passing was terrible and blamed others for any mistakes. lovenkrands also struggled , just wasnt on the same wavelength as enrique.

    credit to hughton though, the two subs we all wanted on and the two we wanted off were made, they then just couldnt cope with ranger and carrol and we wrapped it up.

    anyone see carrols shot at the end? candidate for goal of the month if it had gone in. ranger was immense, 3 defenders couldnt get near him for the goal before he backheeled it out for geremi to swing one in. colos bit of skill was awesome as well. overall though, quite worrying, but the boro result reassured me a bit

  • Toonmania

    Sep 19, 2009 at 6:44 PM

    Comment #3

    problem is as much as admire hughton and thank him for all his hard work, he is not the man to take us forward, we need a manager in now hughton is not a tactical minded person nor is colin

  • stevep

    Sep 19, 2009 at 6:55 PM

    Comment #4

    at the end of the day we have 19 points playing badly so its not all gloom and doom, jonas is back in a couple of weeks and we’ll hopefully sign a decent winger / striker on loan
    hughton needs to drop the 4-5-1 formation in favour of an attacking formation especially at home

  • Rangerman

    Sep 19, 2009 at 6:55 PM

    Comment #5

    While I agree with Toonmania that Hughton isn’t the man for long term, I think he’s more than capable of stepping in and getting us back into the Premiership where we should have a better choice of managers we could attract.

  • UTD111

    Sep 19, 2009 at 7:22 PM

    Comment #6

    Of course he could have played Guthrie and Ranger (pace!!) from the start and it might have been a bit more comfortable – but he didn’t…….

  • The Bishop

    Sep 19, 2009 at 7:24 PM

    Comment #7

    you mean Ranger and Guthrie changed the game. In any case, good result against a team really looking to impress against one of the big boys

  • Darryl

    Sep 19, 2009 at 7:31 PM

    Comment #8

    We win, people complain… We lose, people complain.. Their isnt much hope is there? just be bloody pleased for gods sake!

    Sick of people complaining about this and that. Houghton is the manager, he makes the decisions.. they seem to be working bar 1 defeat! Just be happy with the progress we have been making!

  • Ross

    Sep 19, 2009 at 7:44 PM

    Comment #9

    Areet lads, havent seen any of the game yet but thank god we got the 3 points like. Was absolutly bricking it when they equalised!
    Little bit worrying that considering we scored our first after 5 minutes we couldnt put them to bed fairly swiftly, but end of the day we’ve won and thats all that matters.
    We didnt start 4-5-1 did we? the minimum we should have had up top at home against bottom of the league was 2. To be honest, i think we should work out the best way for us to play 4-3-3 at home. We really need to keep winning at SJP.

  • toonsy

    Sep 19, 2009 at 7:46 PM

    Comment #10

    I just hope we start with 2 strikers from now on, obviously if we have 2 or more fit like. All other teams in this league start with 2 up front and try to win games.

  • Elfy_Toon

    Sep 19, 2009 at 7:54 PM

    Comment #11

    I dont think its the formation thats the problem just the players being used, barton isnt a winger and neither is mcloven. hughton is jus making the best of what hes got until jonas is back we have no left winger and under the circumstances weve done gr8. if barton was played with smudge in the center with nolan ahead behind the striker then we’d b f9 i believe but barton is being used as a winger on his weaker side none the less. as soon as jonas and bambi are back i can see us attacking and scoring more again. ppl seem to forget that we do have a small squad and even tho our results havent suffered badly u can tell were missin players.

  • tripp

    Sep 19, 2009 at 8:11 PM

    Comment #12

    I think Hughton’s playing 4-5-1 because we have loads of midfielders and we’re short on reliable strikers ATM. Carroll is injury prone and McLover isn’t quite ready yet (remember, he didn’t have preseason).

    That said, I think it’s pretty obvious we need the right players on the pitch and in a more attacking formation. I’m just happy that CH made good substitutions, changed to a more attacking formation, and put Smith straight back into the side.

    It will be interesting to see what changes, if any, Hughton makes for next saturday. Hopefully, the bairns feature heavily in the next cup tie. Their reward can be an automatic start in the next cup match and some PT in the league.

    Good win today. 3 points is 3 points.

  • NewcastleMole

    Sep 19, 2009 at 8:15 PM

    Comment #13

    @Elfy_Toon #11

    “As soon as jonas and bambi are back i can see us attacking and scoring more again.”

    Gutiérrez: Will help us attack more but can’t finish, Work Rate is what we miss most from him.

    Ameobi: Very wasteful, and gives away needless fouls. Carroll & Ranger are both better players.

  • Elfy_Toon

    Sep 19, 2009 at 8:25 PM

    Comment #14

    @newcastlemole, bambi is our top scorer 5 in 4, carrol has 2 in 5 and ranger is yet to score? how is it not obvious we will score more? and jonas is an attacking player he links up fantastically with enrique and creates alot of space with his runs. mark me on that wen those come back we will score more.

  • toonsy

    Sep 19, 2009 at 8:29 PM

    Comment #15

    Lets just hope that the mini statement off the club is true and fatboy is about to fcuk off!

  • Thump

    Sep 19, 2009 at 8:35 PM

    Comment #16

    @toonsy: I wouldn’t be happy with Barry Moat. I honestly doubt he has the money to take us forward – least of all in the Prem. I’d prefer the devil I know with Moat running the football side of things tbh, but of course he wouldn’t pay £100m for that.

  • Thump

    Sep 19, 2009 at 8:37 PM

    Comment #17

    Oh, btw – did anybody else notice that Smudge was awfully quiet today? I don’t think I heard anything said about him at all on the radio =/

  • nzedtoonman

    Sep 19, 2009 at 8:46 PM

    Comment #18

    is anyone talking aboot the baggies thrashing the second in the league Boro ! Is that not quite a major show of strength by them , shows how good our 1-1 was , and how much the gap could be if they start to flex their scoring muscles !!

  • Elfy_Toon

    Sep 19, 2009 at 8:49 PM

    Comment #19

    is ne1 else worried by the baggies hammering of boro? i would have much preferred a draw in that match and i think its gonna make it that much more difficult to go up as champions

  • Dan4Toon

    Sep 19, 2009 at 8:49 PM

    Comment #20


    I went to the game today and Smith was his usually busy self just giving things simple, breaking up play, basically what his job is he does really well, Enrique was not his best either :/

  • nobby sol

    Sep 19, 2009 at 8:53 PM

    Comment #21

    we have a defence crisis against peterburg

    simpson out
    khizanishvilli cup tied
    kadar looked pretty bad against huddersfeild

    rtaylor kadar geremi tozer
    barton butt vuckic lualua
    ranger lovenkrands

    thats the best team I can put out considering our lads need a rest carling cup might have to be sacrificed this year lads not as if we could win it like.

  • Elfy_Toon

    Sep 19, 2009 at 8:58 PM

    Comment #22

    nobby sol, rather start collo in the center with geremi on rm instead of barton. part from that i agree with ya.

  • toonsy

    Sep 19, 2009 at 8:59 PM

    Comment #23

    @Thump – Its always been said that Moat has backing from abroad, how true it is i dont know. The statemnet said aswell that the price has been matched by more than one party so who knows? Besides, whats the difference between Ashley being wealthy and not investing anymore cash OR Moat who may not have the cash to invest? What Moat does have is the fact he is a fan, like us, and obviusly wants to see us be succesful.

  • toonsy

    Sep 19, 2009 at 9:01 PM

    Comment #24

    nobby sol – goining out of the cup isnt really a sacrifice is it? A sacrifice from our usual cup challenging years yes? Sorry for the sarcasm there lol. We were out in this round last year anyway so lets just focus on the league.

  • nzedtoonman

    Sep 19, 2009 at 9:09 PM

    Comment #25

    is the highlights of game on any thread yet ?


    Sep 19, 2009 at 9:09 PM

    Comment #26

    toonsy @ 23 you make some valid points.

  • nobby sol

    Sep 19, 2009 at 9:11 PM

    Comment #27

    anyone else have a good feeling about new lads coming in soon. i rekon we will have a striker and another defender soon.

    we can sign free agents whenever we want can’t we?
    free agents list

    gluaber berti only 26
    micheal ball plenty of fight in him.
    olivier bernard knows all about tyneside
    Evangelino Valentim 24 year old 6ft 7 striker
    henri camara 32 year old but skillfull striker

  • nobby sol

    Sep 19, 2009 at 9:12 PM

    Comment #28

    I agree the cup means nout but the game has got to be played


    Sep 19, 2009 at 9:14 PM

    Comment #29

    Dan4Toon what did you think of Barton he seems to be struggling a we bit

  • nobby sol

    Sep 19, 2009 at 9:35 PM

    Comment #30

    matty patison anyone?

  • toonsy

    Sep 19, 2009 at 9:37 PM

    Comment #31

    nobby sol – I’d take Bernard off that list. As you say, knows about the toon and would be good back up/competition for Enrique.

    As for strikers, im in 2 minds. Once we have Jonas back on the wing that makes it Ameobi, Carroll, Ranger, Lovenkrands, young Donaldson as out and out strikers with Nolan and Vuckic being able to play behind them in a support role.

    Centre midlfield is my main concern but only because we are over subscribed in that position. Thats why i think were seeing things like Barton on the wing. Hughton cant leave them out because of the name and hassle but its also stifling the chances for players like Lua Lua who would be better suited to play on the wing.

  • toonsy

    Sep 19, 2009 at 9:38 PM

    Comment #32

    nobby sol – Matty Pattison was gash mate, he never cut it first time with us and, unlike Chopra, seemed out of his depth in this league and ended up going down with Norwich.

  • Dennis Twice

    Sep 19, 2009 at 9:40 PM

    Comment #33

    They all want to be all over us, do not give them a Christmas….FIGHT FIGHT!!

  • Thump

    Sep 19, 2009 at 10:11 PM

    Comment #34

    @toonsy (23): Fair points. I didn’t notice they said more than one, though.

  • Rangerman

    Sep 19, 2009 at 10:18 PM

    Comment #35

    Bernard runs a crepe restaurant in town and hasn’t played football for a few years.

  • Rangerman

    Sep 19, 2009 at 10:21 PM

    Comment #36

    So the only thing Moat has going for him over Ashley is that he is a Newcastle fan?

    Hardly inspiring.

  • wickywoowoo

    Sep 19, 2009 at 10:34 PM

    Comment #37

    I know this is a Newcastle blog but as a Newcastle fan who wasn’t born in the city – it doesn’t half make the comments near impossible to read when “like” and “wor” are randomly thrown in. It may be the slang speech pattern but I cannot understand why they are typed. It makes the comments difficult to understand and the blog in general looking silly.

    The same to the incorrect and frustrating use of the term “the Newcastle club” in the main messages. It makes no sense and is just wrong. It drives me up the wall on the otherwise great website.

  • gibbotwg

    Sep 19, 2009 at 10:36 PM

    Comment #38

    id like this team against peterborough
    R.taylor.. Colo..Kadar..Tozer

  • geordie deb

    Sep 19, 2009 at 10:39 PM

    Comment #39

    For any Keegan fans on here, his last match as a player in 84 is just starting on ESPN classic

  • tripp

    Sep 19, 2009 at 10:40 PM

    Comment #40

    Keep Carroll and Ranger on the bench for the cup game. We can’t afford them getting injured. Give somebody like Donaldson a run out upfront with McLoven (for more match fitness). We can’t really afford to risk any of our first team strikers in a meaningless cup match. Give the kids a chance to play. Agree with midfield, except Smith. Put Barton on with instructions to impress and get him motivated (or have a good reason to park his arse on the bench if he’s rubbish).


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