Newcastle Fans Split On Keegan Claim Against Newcastle


The local Sunday Sun is reporting today that Newcastle United will have to pay up in full for the compensation payment to Kevin Keegan, within a short 7 days of hearing the verdict on his constructive dismissal claim.

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Kevin Keegana big pay-off  just around the corner
But while we were hoping for a decision tomorrow, sources close to Keegan last night confirmed that it could be two or three weeks before a Premier League arbitration panel will deliver a judgement on his case.

Why they take so long is beyond us – they should put the hours in and get a verdict out this coming week, hard work never killed anybody.

However, the Sunday Sun can also reveal that Premier League arbitration rules dictate that Newcastle would have to pay any compensation award in full within one week. That’s very bad news for the club.

That could be a body blow to Newcastle, and as fate would have it, this is all coming at the exact wrong time, as Barry Moat has been closing in on buying the club.

It seems that even if Keegan had tried, this thing could have not have come at a worse time for Newcastle, and whatever payment is made to him, most fans will think that money should be used for new players, to get us back in the Premier League.

After all it was his leaving – whoever was at fault,  that eventually sent us down – and there’s  little doubt if  Kevin has stayed on the job, Newcastle would still be in the top flight.

But there’s enormous emotion over this issue with Newcastle fans, and two different points of view:

  1. Kevin got on his high horse again and walked out on the club for the second time. He has done this throughout his career with Fulham, Man City, Newcastle in January, 1997,  and even England, and he did it again.  Kevin thinks too much about his own ego and not enough about the club he says he loves.
    How can he expect £10M when he only worked for 8 months and was responsible in some measure, for sending the club down?
  2. It was all Ashley’s fault and how can Kevin stay at a club when owner Ashley and his cohort Dennis Wise bring in players he knows nothing about.
    -Kevin was put in an untenable position, and he had no alternative but to walk out. The news initially said he had resigned, but Kevin says he was sacked – that bit is still not too clear.

The truth will lie somewhere in the middle of the above two viewpoints, but both parties have to take some of the responsibility – it take two to tango.

In our vote of last week, 72% of Newcastle fans did not support Kevin’s claim.

But talk of  putting Newcastle into administration is too silly to contemplate and a source close to Ashley said:

“There would still be more cons than pros for Ashley to go down that path.”

“The only reason I can see him doing that is if he is genuinely concerned for the health of his other businesses, and feels he can’t afford to shore up the football club with them.”

There is a chance the losing side could try to win the right to appeal to the Court of Arbitration for Sport in Switzerland, and if Newcastle lose big time we would expect them to take that path.

If we were to guess the compensation amount, we would expect the panel to award Kevin £3M to £4m, and no more.

Comments welcome.



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47 comments so far

  • alkinou

    Sep 27, 2009 at 11:32 AM

    Comment #1

    “£3M to £4m, and no more”

    In the tight financial situation Newcastle are in, this is big money. Maybe Keegan deserves the money (I won’t say I really know what happened) but as a selfish Newcastle fan, I’d really prefer that money to be spent on good players.

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  • Alex

    Sep 27, 2009 at 11:40 AM

    Comment #2

    reports have also said that Keegan is not only wanting compensation for his contract but is also claiming for loss of future earnings . This after walking out of every managment job he has had . If the reports are true then he is seriously taking the Piss .

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  • Davies

    Sep 27, 2009 at 11:44 AM

    Comment #3

    If this was a matter of principle, there’s no reason Keegan shouldn’t have accepted Ashley’s offer of £4m. Ashley is admitting he was in the wrong by making any kind of offer, otherwise he would be fighting it all the way. I’m not Ashley’s biggest admirer, but this just smacks of greed on Keegan’s part to me. Not just a quitter afterall…..

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  • tooneskimo

    Sep 27, 2009 at 12:02 PM

    Comment #4

    Great work if you can get it……

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  • batty

    Sep 27, 2009 at 12:02 PM

    Comment #5

    ed spent on new players come on you know thats not gonna happen

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  • punk skunk...

    Sep 27, 2009 at 12:03 PM

    Comment #6

    “Committee of arbitration split on keegan claim”…Would be closer to the point!..

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  • UTD111

    Sep 27, 2009 at 12:03 PM

    Comment #7

    Ed – for the umpteenth time – your 72% was just over 200 people….and we have no idea who they were as anybody can log on here and vote…..I think a more reliable view was that of the United fans at yesterday’s match. The fans who travel away are the most dedicated United fans you will meet – and they voiced their opinion of the FCB in no uncertain terms, and to his face.

    As for “fans would prefer this money to be spent on players” – you might have a point if the FCB hadn’t spat out his dummy and made it clear no more money would be invested by him in the club. We are reduced to going cap in hand to clubs much smaller than us asking for loan handouts – an absolute disgrace.

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  • batty

    Sep 27, 2009 at 12:04 PM

    Comment #8

    ED and did you know alan oliver mentioned your blog in last weeks sunday people

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  • batty

    Sep 27, 2009 at 12:06 PM

    Comment #9

    spot on utd111

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  • UTD111

    Sep 27, 2009 at 12:06 PM

    Comment #10

    Davies…..
    What “£4m offer”??
    This was just a spurious story in the press quoting a “source close to the club” ie it was either made up by a lazy journo, or it was Ashley’s cronies attempting to discredit Sir Kevin……

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  • batty

    Sep 27, 2009 at 12:06 PM

    Comment #11

    ad i wonder if stardust is still crying lol

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  • UTD111

    Sep 27, 2009 at 12:10 PM

    Comment #12

    KK didn’t “walk out on Fulham” – he left Fulham because he was offered the England Job – the highest accolade for a manager in the English game.
    People also glibly say he walked out on Man City and United – but they forget that both clubs were in a much stronger position when he left than when he had joined – and in the Premiership!

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  • batty

    Sep 27, 2009 at 12:13 PM

    Comment #13

    utd111 you know what they say m8 theres no use knocking if theres no 1 in

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  • the holy grail

    Sep 27, 2009 at 12:22 PM

    Comment #14

    i dont agree with with keegan suing the club i belive he seen that there was a chance to make a bit money as he was in a bit financial difficulty.

    FOR EVERYONE WHO IS SUPPORTING KEEGAN . . . YES I AGREE HE SHOULD TRY CLEAR HIS NAME IF HE IS INNOCENT AND GOT SACKET IF THAT IS WHAT HAPPENED ( BECAUSE IF HE JUST WALKED AWAY HE SHOULDNT GET A PENNY ) BUT IF HE WINS WHY NOT GIVE THE CLUB THE MONEY OR PART OF IT BACK UNDER THE NEW OWNERS BECAUSE HE IS PARTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR US GETTING RELIGATED AND HE WILL GAIN ALL OF HIS CREDABILITY BACK BY SAYING IT WAS NEVER FOR THE MONEY OR DONATE IT TO THE SIR BOBBY ROBSON TRUST THEN WE.

    JUST AN IDEA WHAT YOUS THINK !!!

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  • Stuart79

    Sep 27, 2009 at 12:24 PM

    Comment #15

    Disgusting!

    Anyway we have two home games on the trot now. If we win them both I think we could be 7 points clear of 3rd place.

    Although I won’t count me chickens…

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  • batty

    Sep 27, 2009 at 12:26 PM

    Comment #16

    and west brom have 2 away games

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  • punk skunk...

    Sep 27, 2009 at 12:26 PM

    Comment #17

    Why not holy grail!?!..
    …That would prove ‘principals’, wouldn’t it?..

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  • batty

    Sep 27, 2009 at 12:26 PM

    Comment #18

    Stuart79 so you felt a bit sorry for ashley did y

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  • Stuart79

    Sep 27, 2009 at 12:35 PM

    Comment #19

    batty // Sep 27, 2009 at 12:26 PM

    Stuart79 so you felt a bit sorry for ashley did y

    A little bit yes. He just looked so unhappy. It might have been just for the tv though..

    He’s an arse and he’s ruined our club but he has put a lot of money in.

    Still want him gone quick sharp though.
    But you reap what you sow.

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  • batty

    Sep 27, 2009 at 12:40 PM

    Comment #20

    Stuart79 do you think he felt sorry for the fans when he got us relegated last season

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  • Wallsend Will

    Sep 27, 2009 at 12:43 PM

    Comment #21

    No one seems to be picking up on the original contractual position between Keegan and Ashley. If as I understand it, from a number of reports in the press, there is a mutual compensation package written into the “contract” between the two parties.

    If Keegan walked out of the job, Newcastle United would be entitled to £2,000,000.

    If Newcastle United sacked him, Keegan would be entitled to £2,000,000.

    The dispute centres on wether Keegan was sacked, (Constructive dismissal) or did he walk. The Football Tribunal, would have had to have listened to all evidence from both sides, then form an opinion as to what happened, i.e. was he Sacked or did he walk. Depending on their findings the £2,000.000 would then be awarded either the Club or to Keegan. Any claim by Keegan for the full £9,000,000 of his contract or any loss of additional future earnings would surely fail, if he signed the £2,000.000 compensation clause in his contract. Any views on this point

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  • batty

    Sep 27, 2009 at 12:46 PM

    Comment #22

    Wallsend Will aye your ight if its true but what can y beleive at newcastle at the mo

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  • Stuart79

    Sep 27, 2009 at 12:48 PM

    Comment #23

    Batty,

    Probably but not as much as he felt sorry for himself though.

    Hopefully he can just sell up and we can move on.

    Although if we do get sold the new owner has to make a permanant appointment of a manager and I don’t want anyone coming in and upsetting the apple cart.

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  • punk skunk...

    Sep 27, 2009 at 12:50 PM

    Comment #24

    Will,
    stop employin’ logic into this situation!..
    …I bet that was rivetin’ listenin’ to the full squabble again, live, i mean the full evidence…
    …Why is it goin’ to take so long for them to decide, either it’s 1 way or the other, isn’t it?..
    …Yawn!..

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  • punk skunk...

    Sep 27, 2009 at 12:53 PM

    Comment #25

    Stu,
    this is Newcastle mate, we’ll be zingin’ along, winnin’ games, in auto-promo position, someone will buy us out, get in a new coach, upset the applecart, it’ll all gan t’shit & we’ll all have loads to moan about for ages!..
    …Can’t wait!.. 🙂

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  • batty

    Sep 27, 2009 at 1:07 PM

    Comment #26

    punk lol

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  • punk skunk...

    Sep 27, 2009 at 1:09 PM

    Comment #27

    Sods law ‘n’all that, hey batty?.. 🙂

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  • chestnut

    Sep 27, 2009 at 1:20 PM

    Comment #28

    kevin keegan is an A**H**E

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  • Alex

    Sep 27, 2009 at 2:19 PM

    Comment #29

    Wallsend Will
    i hope what your saying is true , it would explain why Ashley is counter claiming for 2 million . Maybe then the arbitration panel would split the diffrence if they cannot decide what really happened and keegan gets 1 million . The big question then is would it drag on even longer by Keegan bringing it to the International sports tribunal in Zurich . I hope not or we can forget the club being sold for a long time to come .

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  • batty

    Sep 27, 2009 at 2:26 PM

    Comment #30

    chestnut // Sep 27, 2009 at 1:20 PM

    kevin keegan is an A**H**E
    <<<<chestnut is a pr:ck

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  • bordeauxtoon

    Sep 27, 2009 at 2:33 PM

    Comment #31

    For me, there is no way KK is responsible for us getting relegated. Of course we don’t know the truth, but it seems clear that his player wish list was totally ignored, whilst Wise was given the go ahead to bring in the likes of Xisco. A major part of being a manager is shaping the squad. You can’t expect himto take the blame for Wise’s useless scouting, so he left. Assley, Wise and co have screwed up the last 4 or 5 transfer windows leaving us short and unbalanced in this area. Finally after AS got the job, MA also totally ignored his wish list. So stop pointing the finger at KK, look no further than MA and co.

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  • TOONPIPES

    Sep 27, 2009 at 3:23 PM

    Comment #32

    Seriousy, Keegan can f**k right off .. totally stitched us up .. if he oved the club as he claims, he could have tol MA that the set-up was not right for him and that he was going to have to go – but given MA some time to sort another manager .. i don’t care for any argument about how bad MA is/was/that Keegan coudnt work with Wise etc …. he shud have just got on with it …. Shepherd / Souness / Daglish / Keegan more responsible for us being relegated than MA ……..

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  • sirjasontoon

    Sep 27, 2009 at 5:06 PM

    Comment #33

    To even think that any Money paid to KK by Mike would come out of a transfer Kitty is absolute Bollox….Wake up there is no Transfer Kitty (Hence Steptoe and Son Loans,Rags and Bones)….just an ongoing Buggering of NUFC by An Absolute Disaster that is Mike Ashley.

    Good Luck Keegan you where made a mockery of by MA and his Muppet Gang.

    We deserve better that this Fat Get destroying our Club…He makes my Pi55 Boil.

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  • Michael12

    Sep 27, 2009 at 5:57 PM

    Comment #34

    Wow, the dark side thrives.

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  • Filthy Malcolm

    Sep 27, 2009 at 6:01 PM

    Comment #35

    “Keegan more responsible for us being relegated than MA …”

    Possibly the most retarded remark ever made by a Newcastle supporter. LOL!!!!!

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  • Troy Stavers

    Sep 27, 2009 at 6:59 PM

    Comment #36

    Keegan walked away or was forced out from the club. He left without a penny. It was a braver decision to do so, cos he could have stayed, gone through the motions and guaranteed a handsome weekly wage.
    He doesn’t know who’s side the tribunal will favour. Therefore he left without a penny and will only get rewarded if he warrants it.
    What is wrong with that?
    He has never taken money from any club he has left in the past.

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  • Troy Stavers

    Sep 27, 2009 at 7:02 PM

    Comment #37

    By the way Batty,

    Stardust is crying in his pint over Keegan. He is typically one of those who now hates Keegan. This is a man who loves Ashley, so that says it all.

    Whoever is on the side of Stardust’s, then i’m afraid you’ve chose the wrong comrade.!

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  • BlacknWhite Barmy

    Sep 27, 2009 at 7:54 PM

    Comment #38

    All this talk of administration and 25M etc is no more than a smear campaign from the Ashley camp. The sooner he goes the better – if it is 25M or 9M the muppet should pay up and get out, all this hassle has been the caused by his own poor (by his own admission) decisions and any payout as a result of them should rest at his feet.

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  • batty

    Sep 27, 2009 at 10:09 PM

    Comment #39

    aye troy a kna iam always having words aboot it

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  • batty

    Sep 27, 2009 at 10:10 PM

    Comment #40

    spot on troy

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