Newcastle 1 QPR 1 – Points Lost Tonight


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In a game in which a win would have taken Newcastle 5 points clear at the top of the Championship, Newcastle elected to have this night be a time to drop their first league points of the season at home, and they missed a penalty too.

One of the things we didn’t have last season was mental strength and this result shows that we may not be too much better off this season, as we failed to get maximum points, with a rather mediocre performance, after a stunning display last Saturday night.

But we did come back from being a goal down and then missing a penalty, so to be fair that was good.

Newcastle started badly and conceded after only 7 minutes, when Newcastle’s sloppy play was punished, when Enrique’s clearance only went as far as Ben Watson, 30 yards from goal.

The midfielder took the ball forward and then hit a left-footed shot which was deflected beyond a wrong-footed Steve Harper, off the leg of Steven Taylor, and into the net.

But then on 18 minutes Newcastle had a great chance to draw level with a penalty.  The ball dropped to Steven Taylor at the far post, and he managed to hit a shot on goal, and the ball cannoned off the hand of Mikele Leigertwood, and the referee, Rob Shoebridge pointed to the spot.

But Danny Guthrie’s penalty was poor and easily saved by the diving goalkeeper. We must be able to score from penalties – especially at home. At the end of the day Danny’s miss cost Newcastle 2 points.

Goals and penalty misses change games, and this probably put it in the players’ minds that tonight was not a night for them, and in front of 38,923 Newcastle fans too.

This is not a good result, although we did come from behind, and it was our new signing Marlon Harewood who got his first goal, and it got Newcastle a point.

The break came and Newcastle were down 1-0 but in the second half as expected Chris brought on Harewood for Ranger (61 mins) and Gutierrez  for Butt at half time.

It was on 70 minutes when Danny Simpson lifted a high cross to the far post, and Andy Carroll towered to head back across goal, where Harewood arrived to bundle the ball home for his first for the club.

We cannot afford too many nights like this – and make no mistake – this was 2 points lost by the lads – and we’ll have to put it down to a bad night.

While we are probably being too hard on the lads, it’s important  that the team failed to deliver the goods when it mattered tonight, and that’s what is disappointing with the overall display and result.

But now it means Newcastle just much win against Bristol City on Saturday at home, anything less will be unacceptable. If we can take Bristol to the cleaners on Saturday, we’ll feel a lot better.

Newcastle still go 3 points clear of QPR at the top of the league tonight.

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52 comments so far

  • summerof69

    Sep 30, 2009 at 9:52 PM

    Comment #1

    a draw isnt a bad result some ere tipping us for relegation and now ere 3 points clear of the championship lets hope we beat bristol

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  • summerof69

    Sep 30, 2009 at 9:53 PM

    Comment #2

    *were

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  • stuart no9

    Sep 30, 2009 at 9:53 PM

    Comment #3

    typical nufc this is the reason we have won nowt for fifty odd years totally unpredictable and inconsistant will we ever change ? i doubt it

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  • Dragonera

    Sep 30, 2009 at 9:56 PM

    Comment #4

    Ed

    To be honest, i think this is an article made more of emotion than logic, mate. In retrospect of the game i think a point is a decent result as it is all about picking up points even when you are playing poorly, which we did today.

    Also, how can you say the team showed a lack of mental strength? Surely that is unfair. Surely a team with little mental strength would have let their heads drop when that penalty was missed. Or when it was seeming like we would never penetrate their defence. Credit where credit is due Ed. The lads have got stuck in and got a point against a side with a decent defensive away record.

    Also, let us not forget that QPR didn’t score a proper goal carved out by good movement. It was a speculative shot that nicked a deflection and the young lad Watson has got lucky. For all of their good passing and movement, what did QPR really create? Very little. If anything, we probably had better chances than they did.

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  • ginkoh

    Sep 30, 2009 at 9:57 PM

    Comment #5

    We should get 5 points clear tonight because we played at St’Jame’s Park. But 1 point is better than none.

    The midfield pack as Butt Nolan Smith Guthrie is not work because all of them lack of pace. If Guthrie put the ball in we will get 3 points this game. However Hughton have a lot of homework for his squad after this match for sure. Lady luck is not our side today, Just simple like that.

    Howay the lads !!

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  • wickywoowoo

    Sep 30, 2009 at 9:57 PM

    Comment #6

    To be fair, this is a point gained. We were behind and came back to draw. To look at it as “2 points lost” is arrogant and assuming this game was already won by us before it even started.

    It’s that arrogance that has helped significantly in getting us relegated in the first place. Assuming we are superior and have a divine right to things we don’t.

    3 points clear, 3 goals clear with Preston and West Brom playing each other next isn’t a bad place to be.

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  • toonloon

    Sep 30, 2009 at 9:58 PM

    Comment #7

    Ed, relax, my friend, take your time. Good (quick) report dotted by typos and I believe you meant we’re three points clear of WBA. Keep up the great work

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  • summerof69

    Sep 30, 2009 at 9:59 PM

    Comment #8

    agree with dragon poor mental strength would have seen us go even more goals down not score ourselves we created chances aswel

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  • TonyGreenSupreme

    Sep 30, 2009 at 10:00 PM

    Comment #9

    Ed,
    Don’t be so negative, we will not win every home game…………
    The starting 11 lacked any width, Butt and Guthrie need to be dropped to allow for Jonas and R.Taylor to supply the ammunition.
    If you had asked me on Friday if I would take a 3 point lead going into the Bristol game on Saturday I would have snapped your hand off.
    KEEP THE FAITH.

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  • Ross

    Sep 30, 2009 at 10:02 PM

    Comment #10

    It doesnt say much for the quality of the league does it? QPR have the best defensive record in the league after us and even with a poor performance tonight we’ve managed to get a point, have one cleared off the line and miss a penalty, points dropped indeed.

    Would like to see Harewood start on saturday as he looked good when he came on against ipswich, sounded determined tonight and got on the scoresheet, i can see him causing championship defenders problems with his power and pace. We missed R Taylor out wide, the service into the box was pretty poor at times, that being the area QPR were clearly weakest.

    A shame we couldnt get all 3 because WBA and Boro have basically put a 5 point gap at the top on a plate for us within the past fortnight and i cant see them continuing to slip up-a win on saturday is a must, obviously.

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  • Edd Case

    Sep 30, 2009 at 10:04 PM

    Comment #11

    Yeah its a pont gained but seriously, we should be beating teams like QPR at home.

    Nevermind though, roll on Saturday and lets get all three points off those Bristol folk.

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  • Big Dave

    Sep 30, 2009 at 10:04 PM

    Comment #12

    Well Lads its not the end of the world and atleast we are still undefeated at SJP

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  • Dragonera

    Sep 30, 2009 at 10:07 PM

    Comment #13

    Ross

    I am confident of a win come Saturday, mate. I think today was positive in a lot of ways. We got a point and kept our unbeaten run going. PLUS todays match showed us our best 11 in my opinion.

    ————————-Harper———————-
    Simpson———Taylor—-Colo————Jose
    Taylor———-Smith——Nolan———Jonas
    —————-Harewood—Carroll—————

    With Ameobi to replace Carroll when fit.

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  • chuck

    Sep 30, 2009 at 10:08 PM

    Comment #14

    It`s like a fairground ride, with it`s ups and downs, supporting this team.
    Just recently we were too good for this league, and to-day ?
    Sure we are top of the division, but still early days in probably the worlds longest schedule, it`s going to be a grinding season I fear.
    Lets hope we escape the unusual high amount of injuries usually associated with the team, as we are going to need every body we have.
    Guess we can`t expect to win em all.

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  • JonnyNufc

    Sep 30, 2009 at 10:11 PM

    Comment #15

    We’re gonna have games like that. Missed pen, their goal deflected in. Oh well, can only move on. Atleast we got a point out of it & have now gone 3 clear. Have to look on the brightside.

    West brom & preston play eachother next week. So a good win against Bristol City & we may still go 6 points clear.

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  • tripp

    Sep 30, 2009 at 10:12 PM

    Comment #16

    Kudos to Dragonera and the other supportive “supporters”. The whinging and moaning on here during the match was nothing short of pathetic by the typical crowd of “supporters”. Supporters my arse, bunch of lily c*nts more like. Blaming Butt for Gutherie’s miss because he’s “voodoo”. Give me a f*ckin’ break.

    Not our best result. Yes we could have done better, but as was mentioned already, we picked ourselves up and eventually got back into the match.

    Howay the Lads. Rant over.

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  • ginkoh

    Sep 30, 2009 at 10:13 PM

    Comment #17

    Surely we expect to win all of our home game but we know it’s impossible. However I just hope our players got some lesson from this game. No easy game in CCC or even lower league.

    Oh please try harder on your penalty training too Guthrie boy.

    Keep the faith ! we will go for 3 points again this weekend.

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  • nobby sol

    Sep 30, 2009 at 10:19 PM

    Comment #18

    has anyone looked at wbas next fixture

    WBA V Preston North End
    thats 2nd v 3rd
    hopefully it will be a draw or preston win

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  • g.s.tooner

    Sep 30, 2009 at 10:19 PM

    Comment #19

    I get the impression we were too flat footed tonight. Especially with guttierez, I lost count of how many times it was said that he didnt cross the ball but instead waited for an overlap from Enrique … he needs to find the aggressive form he showed when he arrived at the club. If he ran at them like he did on his debut they wouldnt get a foot near the ball. Also seemed like Ranger was out of his depth, which is worrying considering this is a mediocre championship side… me thinks he should be coming on for harewood or carrol after 60 mins not the other way round…
    lets just hope we show some bouncebackabitlity for our next game. Howay the Toon.

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  • stuart no9

    Sep 30, 2009 at 10:21 PM

    Comment #20

    not to be too negative lads ,BUT since when has a 1-1 draw at home to QPR been a good result AND no points have been lost,but 1 point gained WHAT? hope we get another point on saturday against bristol , that ill be a cracking result

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  • Ross

    Sep 30, 2009 at 10:25 PM

    Comment #21

    Stuart-i think everyone means its a good result with reference to the performance, rather than the overall quality of either team (even though QPR have been performing pretty well recently).

    Its sad but true, this is the quality of our team these days and these are the teams causing us problems.

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  • Dragonera

    Sep 30, 2009 at 10:29 PM

    Comment #22

    Stuart 09

    Since we were relegated and became a championship side. Have you checked out QPR’s form? Games are won and lost on form. Add to that QPR were always going to be well up for it at SJP. I believe it is their first visit to the new, state of the art stadium and they all played like they had a point to prove. Some fans need to get out of this mind state that we should be winning all our home games and 75% of away games. We are down here for a reason.

    Also a bit off topic, but was anyone a bit disappointed with the fans at SJP today? The atmosphere sounded pretty tense and thick to be honest. I don’t buy into this whole, “you have to give the crowd something to shout about”. If that is the case then our fans are no better than the likes of Arsenal’s or Man United’s. The best fans are vociferous throughout the game imo and you only have to look to Stoke City for proof of that. Other than Stoke, you probably have to go to the lower leagues or abroad to find truly great fans nowadays. It’s a bit of a shame.

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  • Toon_Factor

    Sep 30, 2009 at 10:31 PM

    Comment #23

    Away Bristol >>>> Played 5, won 0, drawn 3, lost 2. Expecting a win as ever.

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  • punk skunk...

    Sep 30, 2009 at 10:35 PM

    Comment #24

    If it’s “Pride before a fall”, then surely, continued “arrogance will keep you down”?..

    …We didn’t play well & drew & kept our unbeaten record at home…
    …Yea, i win would’ve ruled!..
    …But…

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  • Toon_Factor

    Sep 30, 2009 at 10:35 PM

    Comment #25

    Dragonera

    On your off topic subject, ive been saying that about our fans for ages now and every time I mention it all I get is abuse back, it is true though, we are loyal fans but we dont create the best atmosphere these days.

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  • toonoholic

    Sep 30, 2009 at 10:37 PM

    Comment #26

    stauart , qpr have some known names, i did rather take my 1 point at home rather than losing at home.

    Saying that we must murder bristol this weekend !

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  • sirjasontoon

    Sep 30, 2009 at 10:38 PM

    Comment #27

    Been worse times following the Toon…QPR have been traveling well and played a good game from what I can gather.

    We haven’t lost,didn’t create a great deal and still remain top,our new loan striker is off the mark and looking hungry so lets look forward to the next match which hopefully we win.

    Guiterez is poor though… can’t cross for toffee,I am thinking he is a complete waste of money the end product even is this division is non existent.

    That mask will remain matted in his jock strap for a long time to come I think.

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  • toonoholic

    Sep 30, 2009 at 10:40 PM

    Comment #28

    milner was tosh, guti was tosh, blah blah tosh
    tosh tosh tosh

    who do ya lads want to sign cristiano ?

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  • stuart no9

    Sep 30, 2009 at 10:44 PM

    Comment #29

    ROSS , DRAGONERA what your saying is right , but i find it difficult coming to terms with the mess we are in at the mo ie quality and depth of squad,and playing in this leaque ,we have to go up, that means winning home games

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  • Dragonera

    Sep 30, 2009 at 10:45 PM

    Comment #30

    Even the commentator had to admit today that although Jonas “flattered to deceive”, he still made a big impact on the game and helped stretch QPR. He is needed in this team.

    Toon Factor

    To be fair, it isn’t all the fault of the fans. It is all to do with the culture of football and how it has changed. It is being marketed purely as entertainment now, so people EXPECT to be entertained. If they aren’t, then they will simply stop paying for such “entertainment”. The days of supporting your team through thick and thin is almost being forced out of football by the ludicrous prices of match tickets. It really is a joke, and to be fair, if you were paying the best part of £50 per ticket, would you be shouting at the top of your lungs, or even going to watch poor quality football?…Again, it’s a bit of a shame.

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  • Lew Davies

    Sep 30, 2009 at 10:57 PM

    Comment #31

    Areet all. Just got back. worst performance from NUFC for quite a while. Whole game very flat. 2nd to the ball all the time. Midfield of butt, smith, Guthrie can not play all at the same time. Just doesn’t work. Very little movement off the ball. Guthries pen was gash. Harper kicks the ball to the oposition EVERY single time. pointless.
    Why oh why cant we pass the ball to our own players and at least keep posession for more than 5 seconds. Also why the heck we dont tackle is beyond me. seiously frustrating tonight. QPR were better than us in all departments, so it wasn’t 2 points dropped but rather a lucky point gained.
    ah well! NEXT.

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  • stuart no9

    Sep 30, 2009 at 11:00 PM

    Comment #32

    ROSS DRAGONERA what your saying is right, i just have problems coming to terms with the mess we are in ie quality and depth of squad and playing in this league ,i feel we must win our home games, and pick up as many points as we can on our travels to stand achance to get us back where we REALLY belong

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  • Ross

    Sep 30, 2009 at 11:01 PM

    Comment #33

    Dragonera-they seemed to be getting incredibly frustrated with Jonas. At one point the fella seemingly came out with something that would be deemed unsuitable for radio coverage and had to take a moment to calm down,lol.
    He just said he wasnt crossing the ball, at all. Its believable as its a problem we’ve all had with Jonas in the past.

    Lew-how did he perform when he came on?

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  • Ross

    Sep 30, 2009 at 11:06 PM

    Comment #34

    Stuart-i’m in the same boat as you, even now its tough to swallow. I’ve done my best to just get on with it though, we’re here now and thats what we have to focus on-you’ve got to admit, its canny satisfying seeing us win games the way we did against ipswich?

    I’m sadly not with you though, on us belonging in the premier league. The sad fact is the team didnt put enough effort in, didnt perform well enough and consequently didnt deserve to be in the premiership. We needed to ship off the dead wood and rebuild and i feel we’re starting to do that. Obviously there is still the issue of Ashley lingering in the background though, currently being smothered only by the fact we’re (Sort of) doing the business on the field, something i’m sure he’s happy about.

    The only other worrying thing is the fact that players we have brought in, are only here for a few months.

    Question, to anyone: Are we able to extend emergency loan deals in January?

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  • Lew Davies

    Sep 30, 2009 at 11:07 PM

    Comment #35

    usual tangle of his own feet. always looking to offload to jose than actually make a cross. pish poor tbh, but then again I think he plays better on the right not the left, but never gets played there??????? Yet Guthrie was also poor on the right. We desperatly need to sort the wings out as we had no width for the majority of the game.

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  • Ross

    Sep 30, 2009 at 11:11 PM

    Comment #36

    Lew-the 5live commentary team mentioned how Jonas and Jose seem like schoolyard mates when they’re on the field, always looking to give the ball to each other. I’d noticed they linked up well like, but had never really been made aware of the fact they’re giving the ball to each other alot. If they linked up the wing and then one of them whipped a cross in i wouldnt mind too much like, but Jonas’ final product is poor.

    From what i heard, Guthrie was pretty poor all over the place. Wasted a couple of excellent dead ball situations, missed the penalty, wasted a good chance when he had carroll in support…true?

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  • OHurley

    Sep 30, 2009 at 11:15 PM

    Comment #37

    Good result tonite. Of course, i’d have LOVED 3 points, but let’s be honest. We played poorly and still chalked up a point. Not entirely disappointed. I think Harewood could become a warrior for us. I hope to God to NEVER see Nicky Butt anywhere near the pitch ever again. He should go into Cricket. Seriously, AWFUL luck when he’s playing. I’m sorry, I just hate him. He’s probably not a bad guy. He’s probably a really nice guy, actually. But that counts for NOWT when he’s on our pitch.

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  • mattnufc

    Sep 30, 2009 at 11:16 PM

    Comment #38

    Least we didn’t lose! Let’s put this performance behind us and look forward to Bristol.

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  • simon376

    Sep 30, 2009 at 11:17 PM

    Comment #39

    I’m not Jonas biggist fan, but he did change he game tonight when he got on, just needs to lern to cross.

    As for the fans, I was 8 mins lae getting in to the game, parking was a nightmare, but I could hear the crowd from the Mea House car park, next to the Uni. I thought we were quite noisey most of the night.

    As for Harewood, he did very well when he came on and would like to see him start on Saturday, but I have to disagree with the Ranger comments. I thought it was Carroll who should have come off, he didn’t have a good game at all, where Ranger was into everything.

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  • buda boom

    Sep 30, 2009 at 11:25 PM

    Comment #40

    just got in from watching that pile of rubbish. A 170 mile round trip. Lew you are spot on with your assessment. Zhurab, Butt and Guthrie were awful tonight. I will excuse Simpson as he had nothing in front of him to work with and young Ranger who has just came in to the team. But a frank assessment would be they were below standard. I am sorry and people will say its the first bad result and the fans turn on Hughton. In my opinion he is not a manager. Five minutes was all he needed to see Butt was all at sea in the middle of the park. First half we had no width. Too narrow and four midfielders with not a yard of pace amongst them. compare that to the visitors they were bright fast intelligent and if they had only believed more they coulf have won comfortably. Tonight we were the second best team

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