Maradona – Gutierrez Still At Newcastle Is A Negative

While Argentina’s national coach Maradona has assured Gutierrez he will be involved at South Africa 2010, he would still like Gutierrez to move to a big club in Europe, and not have to play second division football with Newcastle.

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Maradona is fresh from his emotional victory at Montevideo on Wednesday evening, as Argentina finally qualified for the World Cup Finals next year in South Africa by finishing 4th top of the South American group, as they beat Uruguay 1-0 for their first win in Montevideo in 30 years.

Maradona said yesterday:

“For me, Jonas was a big discovery,” “Since he left (Argentina) for Europe, he has much improved.”

“The kid is a complete player who could play right across the line in midfield or in defense.” “I still don’t understand why he is playing in the second division in England, because he has the quality to be at a big European club.”

“For me, he easily has sufficient class to be in Premier League, and the fact Newcastle United did not have to sell him during the summer just gone is a negative for him.”

“However, it is positive for his club if they want to return to the top division in England.”

Like any national coach Maradona would like his players to be playing top-class football for their clubs, and whether we like it or not Newcastle playing Scunthorpe, Plymouth and Doncaster is not top-class class football – let’s be honest. And it’s even worse if Newcastle lose to those second-class teams.

A winning Newcastle United side, who are at the top of the Championship table would help the perception of Maradona about the Newcastle side this season.

But any more displays and results like yesterday’s may well see Maradona openly trying to get both Coloccini and Gutierrez to seek new clubs come January.

Comments welcome.

17 comments so far

  • Graeme

    Oct 18, 2009 at 2:41 PM

    Comment #1

    Diego must be short of midfield talent then cos Jonas has hardly sent the Fizzy op division alight, has he.

    He has pace and some degree of skill, but he has zero vision and his delivery of a killer final ball is non existant. On his present performances, he’s probably playing at the level of his ability imo.

  • toonsy

    Oct 18, 2009 at 2:46 PM

    Comment #2

    Ed, i think your being unfair calling teams like Doncaster, Scunthorpe and Plymouth scond class. These teams have earned the right to be in this league…… much like we “earned” the right last season!

    BTW, didnt Jonas set up the goal that sent the Argies to the World Cup?

  • toonsy

    Oct 18, 2009 at 2:50 PM

    Comment #3


  • toonsy

    Oct 18, 2009 at 2:55 PM

    Comment #4

    I think its a bit unfair calling teams like Scunhorpe, Doncaster and Plymouth 2nd rate. They have earned the right to be in this league, much the same way Newcastle “earned” the right to be in it last season!

    Also, didnt Jonas set-up the goal that sent the Argies to the World Cup?

  • toonsy

    Oct 18, 2009 at 2:57 PM

    Comment #5

    Also, people need to watch how they spell scun-thorpe as Ed’s filter thinks there is a rude word in the middle and eats it up (pardon the pun) 😀

  • Jonas18

    Oct 18, 2009 at 2:58 PM

    Comment #6

    Jonas is a class player and could easily play at a top European Club that is a FACT. Diego Maradona realizes it, why can’t Newcastle fans?

    We are lucky that Maradona has promised Gutierrez a place on the plane to South Africa already. Otherwise he would definitely be leaving Newcastle in January.

  • toonsy

    Oct 18, 2009 at 3:09 PM

    Comment #7

    Jonas18 – From watching him live and in person at matches many times, i can honestly say Jonas is not world class! He is good dont get me wrong, probably too good for Newcastle, but he has only showed it once IMO and that was in his league debut away at Man U.

    If he really was world class, then the question needs to be asked of why no other team wanted to buy him during the summer in Ashley bargain bin basement everything must go sale?

  • Brazilian Geordie

    Oct 18, 2009 at 3:13 PM

    Comment #8

    Oh, com’on, can’t believe Maradona is now saying that. He should care more about his own team and forget his players’. He has no right to say that, and I don’t even think Gutierrez is this TOP player people say. He hasn’t even been able to find the back of the net until now. His performance yesterday was also a poor one, with that bizarre shot that managed to go towards stands and with all the balls he lost trying his useless individual moves.

    However, it’s obvious he’s a quality player that indeed shouldn’t be playing at Second Division. But he’s playing for the Newcastle Club, and is also one of the players who got us down to this.

  • Jonas18

    Oct 18, 2009 at 3:27 PM

    Comment #9

    Jonas is a class player, I never said WORLD class!

    Anyway is he is a top player nonetheless. Last season was his first season adapting to a new league and faster more physical style of football and adapting to 4 managers. Don’t even lump him with some of the blame for relegation, thats harsh.

    As for last night when he came on, we had an attacking threat, we started passing the ball better. He only lost the ball once, not many times like the above poster said. And he chased back to help win the ball back. As for his two shots, at least he was a threat. So he ran at their players with the ball and had two shots which went over. they were good strikes of the ball but they were over unfortunately. I BET YOU CRISTIANO RONALDO HAS NEVER SHOT HIGH OVER THE BAR TWICE IN THE SAME MATCH HAS HE? AND AFTER TRAVELING ACROSS HALF THE WORLD AND ARRIVING IN THE COUNTRY LESS THAN 24 HRS AGO.

  • Paul141726

    Oct 18, 2009 at 3:41 PM

    Comment #10

    For now Jonas will say all the right things – ‘I’m happy here’; ‘no place i’d rather be’; ‘I’m going to help get NUFC back to the Prem’. But in about two months it will be ‘I need first class football and I am not getting it here.’ ‘I’ve had clubs in La Liga asking about my availability and will go if it means playing with a top side.’
    He’s a player I think we need even tho I feel he is all show with no end product to show for all his huffing and puffing. Yet he does work hard.

  • Geordiedoonsooth

    Oct 18, 2009 at 3:46 PM

    Comment #11

    I’m pig sick of the whole sorry mess at the Toon I’ve supported them for 54 years but I’ve had enough until fat tw*t leaves I’m not going back

  • sirjasontoon

    Oct 18, 2009 at 4:52 PM

    Comment #12

    Jonas is plop.

  • NewcastleMole

    Oct 18, 2009 at 7:19 PM

    Comment #13

    I hope Maradona does try and unsettle Coloccini into moving as he’s a liability and also the top earner at the club on £75-£80k a week

  • Sav

    Oct 18, 2009 at 10:24 PM

    Comment #14

    Have to agree with the Mole. While Colo has at least bucked up his ideas and performances since helping, like Jonas, to get us in this mess in the first place, t given their salaries the pair of them can ship out in the morning as far as I’m concerned. And frankly, Diego, if you are counting on the likes of any Newcastle players, including these two jokers to win the World Cup for Argentina, you are a bigger no-hoper than FatMike.

  • Ketsbaia

    Oct 19, 2009 at 2:58 AM

    Comment #15

    While I do believe that Jonas is an important member of our squad, I think this story highlights just how essential it is that we get promoted this season. The reality is that whatever our views of our individual players, we are second in the league because a number of our players are significantly better than the vast majority of the players in this league. While we have managed to keep a bunch for a variety of reasons this season, there is no way that Taylor, Enrique, Smith, Nolan, Gutierrez, Coloccini, and potentially Ranger and Carroll will stay for a further season in the second tier when they will have options to play in the premiership and it would be better for their careers. I know many will argue that some of them are not good enough and so on but the reality is that they all are more than good enough for this league and if we go up it will be because of them. If they leave then it will be very hard to attract players of their quality to replace them if we can only offer Fizzy pop football. The fact that we can only attract players of the quality of Khizanishvilli and Harewood while we are down here emphasises this point.

  • Graeme

    Oct 19, 2009 at 8:04 AM

    Comment #16

    Ketsbia, all well and good and what you say is true.

    The only way this squad is going to make it through the winter and on to a promotion fight, is to strengthen what is a very small squad.

    Once these guys are ankle deep in mud and ice, on a freezing cold December/January/February afternoon, with the rain coming down and the wind blowing across the moors, how long are they gonna last??

    I guess people like Jonas will spend more time on the sick, than playing in those conditions!!!

    Its down to FCB to get the players HE wants into the club. Only loan moves now available until next window in January but I just dont see him spending a penny on the squad – thats gonna be down to a new owner.

  • pringle9

    Oct 19, 2009 at 3:57 PM

    Comment #17

    hes crap anyway, i will pay for his taxi fair to a new club


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