If Gutierrez Wants To Leave Newcastle – Let Him Go

There’s news today that Newcastle and Argentine winger Jonas Gutierrez, may be ready to leave Newcastle United for Italian club Roma.

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Jonss Gutierrez – seems his agent wants the move
The Argentina international surprisingly remained at Newcastle after the club was relegated last May.

And only a week or so ago, Argentine manager Diego Maradona was quoted as saying he would be happier if Jonas was playing in a better league than the English second division.

That’s about one of  Maradona’s favorite players and one who will likely be a starter for Argentina in the World Cup next summer in South Africa.

Jonas hasn’t lived up to his early form since joining Newcastle.

He was outstanding in our first league game last season at Manchester United (1-1),  when Kevin Keegan was still manager.

But let’s  be honest about Jonas – he just cannot score goals, although he seems a smashing lad.

If his miss last Saturday against Doncaster, or his miss at Hull City earlier this year are anything to go by, he’ll only ever score for the Magpies if the ball cannons off him into the net, without him knowing what happened. 😀

If some team are willing to come in for him and pay Newcastle at least £6M, that would be a decent deal for the club, as long as we brought in a goal-scoring winger in his place.

But Chris Hughton could use that £6M wisely – for instance to buy both Danny Simpson and Zurab Khizanishvili, and still have some of the £6M left over to use on other new players.

Jonas’ agent, Pedro Jimenez-Bravo, is quoted in The People as saying:

“We know European clubs are interested.”

“We have held meetings with Newcastle but there is an option for the player to leave – although it must be a good offer.”

Now we don’t know whether to believe that statement or not, becasue over the last 30 months or so we’ve been in business, we know there have been quotes put in papers like the People, and they just have not been accurate – and in some cases were never even  said.

So we have no idea if this story has any credance to it at all – but if it is true we think it’s a fairly simple decision for the Newcastle club.

If  Jonas is keen to leave Tyneside then let him go – just ensure we recuperate (at least) the £6M we paid Real Mallorca for the player – and that the totsal amount be handed to Chris Hughton to buy new players in January.

The 26-year-old moved to St James’ Park from Real Mallorca in July, 2008 where he did manage to score 5 goals in 96 games, but he is still to score at Newcastle, after playing 43 games on Tyneside.

Before he joined Real Mallorca he was at Vélez Sársfield from 2001 until 2005 and in 96 games for the Argentine club he scored a single goal.

He’s scored one goal for Argentina in 14 International games and is a regular starter for Argentina under Diego Maradona.

What do you think about this?

Comments welcome.

38 comments so far

  • tom tomb

    Nov 1, 2009 at 5:06 PM

    Comment #1

    Let him go we need two wingers with him or without him. He’s not good enough for us but he is for Argentina-football is a very strange game! As long as Ashley gives CH the money -get shot of him and Butt and Geremi 8 million a year off the wage bill and they are crap players.

  • Toon_Factor

    Nov 1, 2009 at 5:14 PM

    Comment #2

    . “Jonas hasn’t lived up to his early form since joining Newcastle.

    He was outstanding in our first league game last season at Manchester United (1-1), when Kevin Keegan was still manager.”


    There are many reasons why he hasn’t lived up to his early form Ed, first of all Keegan was a ‘proper’ manager who knew how to play football, who had the team organized and motivated unlike Kinnear, Hughton and Shearer. Jonas played well under Keegan because we actually played decent football as a team, under the other 3 managers we turned to the long ball tactic which never works out and resorted to ‘ugly football’ and naturally his form dipped. If he joins Roma or any other stable team unlike us he will do well for them and show how good a player he is. Even though I would love him to stay a transfer would be best for him if he doesn’t want Newcastle to ruin his career any further.

  • sirjasontoon

    Nov 1, 2009 at 5:16 PM

    Comment #3

    See you Jonas….don’t forget your spiderman mask on the way out.

  • sirjasontoon

    Nov 1, 2009 at 5:17 PM

    Comment #4

    Jonas =Bit of spending money for Mrs Ashley in the January sales 🙂

  • Chris F

    Nov 1, 2009 at 5:18 PM

    Comment #5

    he’s a frustrating player, and reminds me a lot of kieron dyer at times.

    by that i mean he’s quick, is a good dribbler, but other than that he’s absolutely bloody useless.

    can’t cross, can’t shoot, can barely pass the ball….

  • Paul141726

    Nov 1, 2009 at 5:22 PM

    Comment #6

    Unfortunately, I think he will leave in January. If this is the case, I hope he still puts in the effort on the pitch until then. If not, bench him! I know he hasn’t been a goal scoring machine for us but at least he puts in a decent days work. If he does go, I hope we get someone (may be already at the club) who can work well with Enrique. It always seemed to me that the understanding between Jose and Jonas was good from an attacking sense.

  • geoff777

    Nov 1, 2009 at 5:37 PM

    Comment #7

    Come on he does nothing really.
    All show & no substance.
    Great runs but no final ball or shot.

    He looks great running with the ball then … nada hombre.

    Adios Jonas.

  • johny2009

    Nov 1, 2009 at 5:56 PM

    Comment #8

    So you want to sell the only winger we’ve got and one of the few players thats can play in the premier league? Jonas is frustrating but to sell him would be crazy, he’s the only player who wants the ball and can dribble with it and so much of our play goes through him. we need another winger not selling the only one we’ve got!!!!

  • BlacknWhite Barmy

    Nov 1, 2009 at 6:02 PM

    Comment #9

    Yeah thats right – let him go and perhaps we could replace him with a loan player!!!

    Selling club, all assets available at any price.

    And still 43K turn up – ans some people call Ashley stupid!

  • Jan Stavik

    Nov 1, 2009 at 6:48 PM

    Comment #10

    Our best player by far, it’s not his fault that the players around him are the likes of Butt, Guthrie, Geremi, Harewood, Carroll etc. Even Messi would struggle to play well with these team mates.

    A winger like Jonas needs support, with a VERY static attack (Carroll, Shola etc) and no creativity in central midfield, he’s been unable to create much. I would rather look for possible improvements than letting our best players go, but the way this club is run, nothing would surprise me.

    I’m impressed with Jonas’ attitude, he’s kept his head down and kept on with his job even if he was brought here to challenge the top4 in the Premiership, not to challenge WBA and Leicester.

  • Big Dave

    Nov 1, 2009 at 7:01 PM

    Comment #11

    Sure we can just let him go we can maybe pick up someone on a short term loan to replace him and anyone else Ma can sell.

  • Chris F

    Nov 1, 2009 at 7:03 PM

    Comment #12

    the guy can’t cross a ball to save his life.

    it’s not that the strikers arent taking up the positions for him, it’s that he can’t hit a barn door with a banjo.

    frankly, a winger who can’t cross is a luxury we can ill afford atm.

    either get him working on crossing more in training, or get him on his bike.

    i’ve nothing against the guy, and i’ll admit he does, more often than not, put in a good shift and get up and down the wing well, but assists and crosses are the currency in which wingers are valued in, and frankly, he hasn’t got 2 brass pennies to rub together at the minute.

  • sirjasontoon

    Nov 1, 2009 at 7:27 PM

    Comment #13

    Just watching Cardif and Forest…loads of energy and pace from both teams,good passing,movement and Chopra just set up a good goal.

  • Shot Bru

    Nov 1, 2009 at 7:54 PM

    Comment #14

    sirjasontoon, they’re both average sides. The best team in the championship for attacking, pace,passing and movement is QPR. When they strengthen in Jan they will win the league. Good equaliser as far as we’re concerned, lovely goal.

  • NotAGhostToon

    Nov 1, 2009 at 7:55 PM

    Comment #15

    Get In There!! Deserves to be a draw over the whole game

  • sirjasontoon

    Nov 1, 2009 at 7:57 PM

    Comment #16

    Shot Bru // Nov 1, 2009 at 7:54 PM
    Both create far more than us and it’s a far better standard.

  • Shot Bru

    Nov 1, 2009 at 8:13 PM

    Comment #17

    SJT , if Cardiff are a far better standard then they should’ve turned us over at their place. I agree we are an average side which doesn’t create a bucketload of chances. However with a fully fit team we have different qualities, like having the best defensive record in the league, which hopefully we can build upon as the season progresses. After the Jan transfer window we will have a better idea of how the season will pan out with regards to the players we are left with.

  • Jay jay

    Nov 1, 2009 at 8:15 PM

    Comment #18

    Just because jonas puts in a lot of effort, don’t allow that to cloud your judgement, ginola put in hardly any effort but because he could cross and score goals he was a lot more effective. jonas gives us nothing really!

  • Darling27

    Nov 1, 2009 at 8:20 PM

    Comment #19

    Let him go. The bloke is a headless chicken. I’ve never known a winger that couldn’t cross the ball. Time for Lua Lua to step up to the plate.

  • komfort

    Nov 1, 2009 at 8:30 PM

    Comment #20

    lads give him a break !!!………..i would suggest about 5 years in rome.

  • mattnufc

    Nov 1, 2009 at 9:39 PM

    Comment #21

    He really is frustrating to watch. But if he leaves I feel Enrique may want to follow suit. NOOOOO

  • Dennis Twice

    Nov 1, 2009 at 10:45 PM

    Comment #22

    Ashley makes some cash….OUT!!!! MA out….he s liar.

  • UTD111

    Nov 1, 2009 at 10:49 PM

    Comment #23

    I’m sure Fatboy will take wahtever he can get for Guiterrez (and Ranger and Carroll and Smith and………)


  • cornish-magpie

    Nov 1, 2009 at 11:20 PM

    Comment #24

    Absolute cr*p, we NEED Jonas, we have no other wingers…people on here were saying Duff was useless (fair enough he was last season) but see him go for Fulham. We don’t need rid of Jonas, we need rid of Hughton….get a MANAGER and get a right winger with pace who can deliver.

    Without Jonas we’ll be very lucky to make the playoffs (Hughton wil simply play Butt in his place…which he already has done this season)

    2-1 to us vs SU tomoz!

  • NewcastleMole

    Nov 2, 2009 at 12:19 AM

    Comment #25

    @UTD111 #21

    I wouldn’t exactly call them assets, more like over paid, under performing playboy wannabes.

  • G

    Nov 2, 2009 at 12:25 AM

    Comment #26

    Mixed feelings about this, to be honest I have always been disappointed with the final ball from Jonas, even though he is a strong player, keeps possession well, and dribbles like a happy baby should, I wouldn’t be too disappointed to see him leave, assuming we can get 5M plus for him. I know he cost more than that (eventually anyway) but he never delivers. We could use 5M to buy a couple of dedicated wingers who could give us the width and creativity we desperately need.

  • Ketsbaia

    Nov 2, 2009 at 12:45 AM

    Comment #27

    “But Chris Hughton could use that £6M wisely – for instance to buy both Danny Simpson and Zurab Khizanishvili”

    Buying Khizanishvili would be an absolute disaster. He is bad enough on loan but at least we have the option to get rid at the end of his loan spell…

    Granted Simpson could be a decent signing for the right price and on sensible wages…

  • Partizan

    Nov 2, 2009 at 1:09 AM

    Comment #28

    Giving away a Argentine World Cup starter for just 6 mill would be a terrible business for our club.
    We should make the most of this deal

    I’d go for their CM Stefano Guberti + 7 mill for Jonas,its a win-win situation + we get a midfielder who is also specialized on that left flank.


  • MacToon

    Nov 2, 2009 at 1:17 AM

    Comment #29

    Dear me, slag off the guy who puts in 100% but praise Smith who WAS bought as a striker and lets recall all his goals!

    Jonas was excellent pre-season and against Man U putting some fine crosses in that a certain Mr Shearer would have relished, unfortunately he got a serious shoulder injury and doesn’t seem to have been the same player since.

    Sell everyone and bring in part-timers and loanees, rename SJP, rename the team and get rid of the balck n white strips…… afterall it means nothing to us, we’re just fans who collectively pay £millions to watch this drivel year after year!

  • MacToon

    Nov 2, 2009 at 1:24 AM

    Comment #30

    Oh and add the £5 million (or whatever) we get for him, add it to the £22 million we got in the summer and WAVE GOODBYE TO IT.

  • Bao Zheng

    Nov 2, 2009 at 3:23 AM

    Comment #31

    Quite entertaining to still be reading this “not good enough for the Toon” tripe. He will likely be a starter in the world cup and should make the semi’s. If we can get say 6m I would still sell him. He’s not suited to championship football, as above Forest / Cardiff / QPR type players are more effective at this level, he is not worth the salary, and the hard fact is that as a championship club we can’t afford him.

  • davis_toons

    Nov 2, 2009 at 3:37 AM

    Comment #32

    Let not attacked Jonas, why dnt we get in some decent right winger that can put crosses into the box first? Everyone say Ryan taylor can cross…then where are the crosses? Just sell him away to get funds for a new midfielder who can pass well n cross.

  • davis_toons

    Nov 2, 2009 at 3:42 AM

    Comment #33

    Yes, Smith was the next person, 100%? Was he a striker, or a sweeper?

  • wickywoowoo

    Nov 2, 2009 at 6:11 AM

    Comment #34

    davis_toons, 30 – are you serious about Ryan Taylor? Hasn’t he been involved in about 80% of Newcastle’s goals this season?

    Without Ryan Taylor, this squad of crap would only have about 3 goals to brag about.

  • lesh

    Nov 2, 2009 at 9:42 AM

    Comment #35

    If the lad wants to go, let him go and assuming the money received will go into the pot allocated for transfers, it could be uselful.

    Has MA guaranteed all money from January sales will be available for buys?

  • G

    Nov 2, 2009 at 10:04 AM

    Comment #36

    @lesh, would it matter if MA had made any guaruntees? We don’t have any reason to believe anything this guy says so I would take that sort of guaruntee and treat it with the contempt it deserves. Common sense would dictate we could use any inbound transfer money, as well as the salary savings for the good of the squad, but MA has shown a distinct lack of common sense where the team is involved.

  • Indiamag

    Nov 2, 2009 at 10:25 AM

    Comment #37

    I’l be sad to see him go. Yes his crosses are horrible and he is a headless chickena and all of that. Still our best player by a mile and the only creative midfielder we have right now..

  • lesh

    Nov 2, 2009 at 12:05 PM

    Comment #38

    Yes G @36, you’re right – I must have been dreaming that we had an owner who was honest in his deeds and words!

    Ah well, sweet dreams of the Adidas St James’ Park Arena.

    Sounds ok?


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