Where Are The Youngsters?

One of the few things we’ve liked about Mike Ashley’s tenure at Newcastle, is that he started a decent youth policy.

17 year-old Haris Vuckic – just one of our great youngsters

But we haven’t seen any youngsters signed yet in the January transfer window, and we’d like to see the supply line keep moving.

There’s no way in the future that Newcastle can pay out huge fees for players, nor should they, and one way of building a good squad of players is via some savvy buying and bringing in youngsters who can mature through the Newcastle youth system.

We have to think the days when billionaires at Chelsea and Manchester City can be allowed to come in and spend unlimited money on their players, both in terms of the transfer fees and wages, are numbered.

That’s an unsustainable model, and we expect a salary cap before too long, and that clubs will be forced to balance their books, which will be big change for most big clubs.

Top teams like Manchester United and Chelsea hardly do that today, with Manchester United’s debt somewhere north of £700M right now – which is just utterly ridiculous.

We’d like to see the Newcastle world-wide scouting system improved and updated, so we can bring in youngsters and some “unknown” players – like Sebastien Bassong, as one good example.

Newcastle may still sign a youngster or two in this transfer window – and we hope they do – and help keep the good work of the Newcastle Youth Academy in full swing.

Comments welcome.

28 comments so far

  • bill

    Jan 24, 2010 at 3:39 PM

    Comment #1

    Sorry Ed, but you have got the ManU situation all wrong. ManU make good profits year on year and very rarely run at a loss. The debt at ManU is due to the Glazers putting the debt on ManU from their purchase of the club. They not only did this but they also take money out of the club to pay those debts and pay themselves and their cronies as well.

    The situation at Chelsea and ManCity is totally different as you are probably well aware.

    We need a wage cap similar to those used in the US to enable more clubs to have a realistic chance of winning the league. I for one am sick of the same teams winning the league year after year.

    As you say, youngsters should be the future, but not just for NUFC.

  • toongloom

    Jan 24, 2010 at 3:43 PM

    Comment #2

    The youngsters and future left when dennis wise left. That was the only decent thing he did, but not really sure how many of these youngsters are good enough to make the step up. We keep hearing this one is for the future and that one is for the future but none have really impressed except ranger and carroll although it could be argued that they havnt really been given a chance. If hutton doesnt give them a chance in the championship then how they gonna play in the premiership lol

  • Steved

    Jan 24, 2010 at 3:49 PM

    Comment #3

    Iv got a feeling all of the future development work is non existent at the moment.

    Would like to see more of Haris only really seen snippets of him playing.

    Would also like to see Lua Lua on right wing occasionally ( last 15 as impact player) is he not playing well for reserves at mo? That might introduce a bit of pace which is needed.

  • giimps

    Jan 24, 2010 at 3:52 PM

    Comment #4

    Hughton wont play untested youngsters, he would rather stick with the likes of Strolla and Butt, as far as I can see, there is absolutely no point in having a good youth policy with a spineless manager like hughton.
    I have no faith in Hughton and have said this before, but , for all we are top of the league, I think it is more due to the players than the manager, he needs to (IMHO) play with more pace and less experience, play Ranger up front with Carol and Lua Lua on the right (Jonas on the left) Guthrie/Lovenkrentz in the middle with Smith behind them.
    As has been said before on a few different posts, we have no pace in Midfield with only Nolan, Smith Guthrie and Jonas, we become to predictable, nullify the left hand side and we struggle, He needs to change it a bit, swap Jonas and Lua Lua or something or we will not get promotion automatically.
    I will be there on Wednesday screaming as usual, I just hope Hughton changes it a bit otherwise we will either lose or draw, and we need to WIN to go up.

  • pdiddy

    Jan 24, 2010 at 4:00 PM

    Comment #5

    There’s problem with both our scouting set up and our development of young players.
    Yesterday should have been a perfect time to play the likes of Lua Lua, Tozer and Ranger.
    instead we went with Taylor ,Smith and Nolan.
    all part of the so called player commitee.
    I firmly believe the players are too involved with team selection.

  • toongloom

    Jan 24, 2010 at 4:01 PM

    Comment #6

    i deffo agree with you giimps. If you take out the left hand side of jonas and enrique, the whole team collapses. Pacy players like lua lua would be perfect of us, thts all you need. I would play carroll and lovenkrands upfront every game ahead of shola. Lovenkrands has the pace and carroll has the strength. Shola has erm…nothing

  • Steved

    Jan 24, 2010 at 4:02 PM

    Comment #7

    Without jumping on the negative band wagon, i do agree with most you have said giimps.
    Hughton is a defensive coach and we play like we have a manager who is a defensive coach!!

    having said that i am very impressed with what he has done. Primarily keeping the team together and motivated in the early part of the season and i agree we are in the position in the league mainly because looking at our players we should be!!!

    But alas if we go up i don’t care! however we need to be warey if we don’t get a win soon it could fall apart. That is why we need to introduce at least one impact player to the squad!

  • baro

    Jan 24, 2010 at 4:19 PM

    Comment #8

    No Wise= No Youngsters to be honest

  • pdiddy

    Jan 24, 2010 at 4:25 PM

    Comment #9

    Houghtons mangement skills will be tested in the next few weeks.
    For whatever reason we are failing in the transfer market and injurues are starting to be unkind to us. We are very one dimmensional in attack and the decent sides in the Championship are figuring us out.
    Will Houghton make the changes that are ncessarry, is he capable of dropping the likes Smith or Nolan?

  • MacToon

    Jan 24, 2010 at 4:40 PM

    Comment #10

    There’s something you like from this tenure?

    This club has fallen from top half EPL team to a mediocre CCC team. We don’t play pretty football, we’ve been lucky and ground out some good results at best.

    Hughton’s done well steadying the sinking ship but seems to have achieved his potential?

    With a wage cap of £30K we’ll never win anything for the next 50 years.

    Torres (£100 million) to Man City and £200 K /week in wages. Rooney, similar to Real….

    I agree (to a point) with wage capping but it’s restrictive, bringing through good youngsters is a solution but it’s a real gamble and takes years.

    Not that I’m calling for him to be manager but Shearer had the balls to chuck some youngsters on and that was in the prem.

  • DJG

    Jan 24, 2010 at 4:42 PM

    Comment #11

    I think Vuckic has had a serious injury that has prevented him playing much this season.

    LuaLua should be given a run out at RM in my opinion. Guthrie cuts inside too much and ultimately is a holding player. LuaLua would at least give us some attacking play down the right.

    We are so left sided this year it is unreal. Virtually everything goes down the left. Sooner or later teams are gonna realise if they can stop Jonas and Enrique we will have virtually NO ATTACK. This is shocking and Hughton needs to address this quickly.

    With Barton hopefully coming back soon we might finally be able to at least thread a ball through the middle.

  • TonyGreenSupreme

    Jan 24, 2010 at 4:50 PM

    Comment #12

    The reason that Lua Lua does not play is simple really, he is not good enough.
    I have seen him play both for the reserves and youths and not been impressed.
    Vuckic will be a quality player in time.

  • Rotonda heights

    Jan 24, 2010 at 4:51 PM

    Comment #13

    Has Vetere been sacked ?

    Yes the supply line of Vuksic, Spear, Adjei et al seems to have dried up and while no fan of wise, he did seem to bring good youngsters through.

    I am pleased fat Ash has a wage ceiling. Should stop all the mercenaries and their agents.

    I have to agree hughton is no manager and we’ve been barely getting by playing ”hoof ball ”.

    Hughton has no plan B and were getting pegged back every week as we have been found out with no creative spark or playmakers at all.

  • TonyGreenSupreme

    Jan 24, 2010 at 4:58 PM

    Comment #14

    Hughton will play Barton on the wing which will nullify his impact. He won’t have the bottle to drop either Smudge or Nolan who look knackered at the moment,

  • donjuan

    Jan 24, 2010 at 5:00 PM

    Comment #15

    Rotonda Heights. Jeff Vetere left when all the ‘cockney mafia’ thing came about. He felt he could do better than be tarnished with the same brush as MA and co. He’s working with Harry Redknapp on some bits at Spurs now. Shame really, because his contacts are phenomenal, and before people ask, no it wasn’t him who instigated the Nacho Gonzalez deal. Cheers

  • pdiddy

    Jan 24, 2010 at 5:21 PM

    Comment #16

    Off the subject But…
    I can honestly see one or two of our fisrt team regulars leaving this week. No team wanted the likes of Smith, Nolan or Colocini in the summer , that’s why they are still on the books but they’ve all had a decent first half of the season and could probably picked up on the cheap to reduce the wage bill. Rumours have linked Smith with Blackburn and Colo with Roma latelely.

  • MacToon

    Jan 24, 2010 at 5:50 PM

    Comment #17

    atm we are setting ourselves up to be a yo-yo team at best.

    Butt, Geremi and Smith off the wage bill, no problem, Barton, Nolan, Colo sold I see problems.

  • Geordiedoonsooth

    Jan 24, 2010 at 5:56 PM

    Comment #18

    Talking about Bassong has anyone seen him play lately? He is rubbish for spurs. I think we did a really good bit of business getting big money for him

  • Toonmania

    Jan 24, 2010 at 8:47 PM

    Comment #19

    the only 2 times i have seen bassong play he has given away 2 penalties

  • baro

    Jan 24, 2010 at 10:47 PM

    Comment #20

    We are about to sign Mike Williamson for 1.2 million.
    Does anybody know if he is good or shit?
    HOpe we don;t get him.

  • DJG

    Jan 24, 2010 at 10:50 PM

    Comment #21


    If that is the case it will be the first time in history NUFC have done a good bit of business.

  • Sav

    Jan 25, 2010 at 3:37 AM

    Comment #22

    If Bassong is playing badly, we should put in a bid for him because he’s one hell of a CB regardless. he will come good again.
    As for player power dictating the team selection – I don’t see any grounds for making that claim. Nor do i see any real justification for calling Hughton ‘spineless’. He’s a coach making a decent fist of a manegerial appointment and with a policy of getting on with what he’s been dealt. Sure, he could throw a fit and walk out but KK got vilified for taking that stand on these here pages. And where will Hughton find another job like it?
    Too many wild claims.
    The bloke is doing well under the circumstances, so give your head a shake, Gimps.

  • Rotonda heights

    Jan 25, 2010 at 7:17 AM

    Comment #23

    Thanks Donjuan,

    Tha’ts a pity. As you say he had phenomenal contacts.

    MacToon, for one reason or another barton plays less than owen for us for his £65k a week.
    I would hate to work out how much he has cost us per game. Should have got rid when we had the chance(s) !

    Just looking at Arsenal yesterday and the likes of Diaby, Song and Merida weren’t even in the squad !!

  • Dardo

    Jan 25, 2010 at 11:58 AM

    Comment #24

    Young Geordie Callum Morris has come through the NU youth system. Any one know if he has made the first team squad. Watched him on a number of occassions playing for RoI under 21’s and was impressed. Hard tackling, no-nonsense defender, good in the air and has pace.


    Jan 25, 2010 at 11:32 PM

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    Jan 25, 2010 at 11:33 PM

    Comment #26

    oops that didn’t come out as planned.


    Jan 25, 2010 at 11:40 PM

    Comment #27

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    Jan 25, 2010 at 11:40 PM

    Comment #28

    sod it


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