Do Newcastle Really Want “Super-Stars” Back?

Kevin Nolan has come out today and said it could be 5 years before we are back in Europe and can attract world super-stars again.

What did this world super-star do for Newcastle?   Not much
And he cost the club a fortune

But do we really want too many of those super-stars back?

They haven’t done too well for us in the past, and the deals we made for them were often just hopeless, and financially suicidal.

Kevin Nolan said today:

“It’s a slow process of getting Newcastle back to where they belong,”  “It’s not going to happen overnight. That’s what we intend to do.”

“To slowly build this club and get it to where it fully deserves to be.”  “If we can do that in the next five years here, that will put us back on the map and it will bring superstars back to the club with European football.”

“We want it in the DNA of the club first, to get us back up and to make sure what happened last season never happens again.”

Some of our supposed super-stars of the last several seasons have not looked too super to us.

In fact, most of those remaining left last summer, and we’ve hardly missed them, but certainly the spirit, camaraderie and fight have increased significantly in the squad, and that’s hardly a coincidence.

And whatever happened to that Michael Owen guy – is he still playing? 😀

We’d rather build up our squad steadily and bring through the youngsters like Tamas Kadar, Tim Krul and Haris Vuckic, amongst others, and make some good buys, as we may have done last month.

When we do that, the players get attached to the club, and our history of big buys has hardly been a good one, but we’ll not depress you by mentioning some of the failures like , and there have been many.

We need to make more signings like Sebastien Bassong, which is why both our youth policy and the improvement of our world-wide scouting network – are surely the way to go for the future of the club.

That’s our view – but let us know what you think.

Yes, we’ll still need to make some big buys we know, but the majority of the squad should be acquired via some smart signings and bringing the youngsters through.

Comments always welcome.

18 comments so far

  • Joey Barton 666

    Feb 7, 2010 at 12:27 PM

    Comment #1

    Yes but not the same over the hill mercenarys like last time, would prefer people like Carroll, ranger, jonas and routledge turn into our super stars..

  • The_Lip

    Feb 7, 2010 at 12:35 PM

    Comment #2

    So you are saying we should not sign players like Alan Shearer, Ginola, Tino, Les Ferdinand, Woodgate etc etc just because the signing of Michael Owen did not work out? (Casually forgetting his goals saved us from relegation a couple of seasons ago and was it his fault that we had a poor side around him and he suffered injuries?).

    The likes of Luque, Boumsong etc were big money but they weren’t exactly household names – simply terrible buys by a useless manager.

    There is not a successful team going that has not had its smattering of big name signings – even the mighty Man U side of the mid-90’s which fluked a load of youngsters needed big names like Cantona and Andy Cole.

    The current Arsenal side is full of youngsters but they still bought Arshavin.

    You must have balance in a side. Blandly stating that we will never need big name signings is a fool’s paradise.

  • GeordieMeerkat

    Feb 7, 2010 at 1:12 PM

    Comment #3

    As long as players are brought to fulfill particular tactics and not just because they’re a good deal, a big name or bought as a favour to agents then we’ll be better off then we were before.

    This can include more like Williamson or Routledge, scouting players such as Bassong, Kadar and Vuckic and splashing out on the odd bit of class like Shearer or Woodgate.

  • toongloom

    Feb 7, 2010 at 2:58 PM

    Comment #4

    of course we want superstars back at the club!! There needs to be a balance though, we need players coming through our youth system and we need to buy good quality players. Mistakes have been made in past on players like luque, boumsong etc and will be made in the future too, but can be limited by proper assessment on players. As soon as we get promted the mentality will change, we will want good football but we have to remember that the 1st season back up will be the hardest season the club has faced in the last 10 yrs. We will need hungry players, players that have not played many games but got soo much to give like james beattie etc

  • toongloom

    Feb 7, 2010 at 3:05 PM

    Comment #5

    we wont be able to compete in the premiership if we dont have any “super stars” otherwise players like shola ambeobi will bring us straight back down. And no one can argue tht he hasnt had enough chances in the premiership to show us a glimse tht he can make it there.

    Btw off the top, im a bit concerned with leon best. Ive heard we payed near £2m for him, if thts right then we have been ripped off lol I rather CH played lovenkrands upfront especially at home and give ranger a chance too 🙂

  • jimiley

    Feb 7, 2010 at 4:00 PM

    Comment #6

    The answer is a resounding YES.
    All clubs with any ambition about winning anything have bought expensive players. You cannot win anything on a youth policy and buying cheap 1 mil pound players. Darlington would have aspirations about winning the Premiership if you could.
    Our problem in the past is that our useless managers paid out tens of millions on rubbish. They wasted the money.
    Do I want our club bought by super rich Arabs so we can buy Ronbaldo or do I want to continue buying 1 million pound “decent” players and have a “decent” team and win nothing? What do you think????

  • Edd Case

    Feb 7, 2010 at 4:13 PM

    Comment #7

    I think yes but to a certain extent.

    No more Kluiverts, Owens, Luques and so on and on and on.

    Yes to the likes of Asprilla, Ginola, Shearer, Ferdinand.

    Honest, hard-working class players, no mercinaries.

    Dont mind if a player is on 150k a week if they are in the same mould as Messi etc.

  • jimiley

    Feb 7, 2010 at 4:39 PM

    Comment #8

    Spot on Edd Case. We have a decent team now with one million pound players. How decent they will turn out to be in the Prem, we shall have to wait and see.

  • alkinou

    Feb 7, 2010 at 5:12 PM

    Comment #9

    The kind of players we need to improve depends of the level of our team. We need to buy each time one or two players who are that little bit better than the rest. Once we’ll have a good team, to get better than of course the next step will be superstars. But we’re far from that.

  • Strauss

    Feb 7, 2010 at 5:35 PM

    Comment #10

    we need superstar footballers with the ability to turn a game, and sell the shirts….
    Yesterdays superstars were sold room in a Rolls Royce that was coming to the end of it’s life,they did not enjoy the ride once aboard, when they realised the owner had not carried out an MOT for years, and the driver was just getting used to the steering before he was replaced by a new one, then they found out the wheels were falling of, the speedometer did not work, and you did not want to look under the bonnet, then came a new owner, an inexperienced driver and the storey continues…..

  • Daftus Doofus

    Feb 7, 2010 at 8:39 PM

    Comment #11

    We think that we need to make our own superstars as we did with the likes of Peter Cartwright, Steve Carney and Alan Shoulder.

  • toonfan

    Feb 7, 2010 at 9:18 PM

    Comment #12

    leon best cost 500k as he was out of contract in the summer and wouldnt sign a new contract so coventry cashed in. Im quite pleased with the dealings in the window six new players good ages with the oldest of 26 costing a grand total of 3.2m the squad looks much stronger with plenty of cover and a bit of pace so hopefully hughton will start playing two strikers in away games instead of the boring one.

  • BeeGuy

    Feb 7, 2010 at 10:06 PM

    Comment #13

    Reading about all the teams with huge financial problems, NUFC may be in a very good spot to sign on talent at a decent wage rate. The trick is to make sure the mental attitude of the new signings does not sour if they do not get the crazy money offered up to now.
    What will be needed are players with PL experience and demonstrated poise on the pitch. I watched several games this weekend and saw so much panicky play that I was appalled. Players trying to jump higher than they are capable of leaping , and jumping too soon, kicking long wild passes and always moving towards their own goal rather than being prepared to attack. So sad.
    The NUFC brain trust needs to continue to bring in players with good sense and with a future in the club. Those are the players that can support the super-star that should be coming out of the Benton base, like Ranger & Carroll are showing .

  • Uchiha_Itachi

    Feb 8, 2010 at 12:38 AM

    Comment #14

    Ha what I find interesting is how everyone is talking like we are promoted already. IMO we might not have the ‘stars’ we had last season or in the past, but what we do have are good, hungry players who most importantly want to be at this club.

    On this note looking at the squad as it is we would be relegation threatened assuming we went up, but I would have far more faith in this lot than those that took us down last season without a shred of fighting spirit before bailing out.

    If we do make it there will be further additions to improve our chances of survival and a base to push on from and if i can say one good thing about cashley its that for good or for bad i dont see him being held to ransom or paying over the odds (baring the colo price tag, not that im not glad hes here).

    Lets just focus on getting up first.

  • Robby Bobson

    Feb 8, 2010 at 1:02 AM

    Comment #15

    No superstars at the club that believe they’re superstars.

    How big of a club newcastle are, there are clubs like Man Utd and Chelsea that big egoed players will always have an eye on.

    Superstars who WANT to play for the club, not because of money.

    Colocinni was abit of a superstar signing but you can tell in matches he knows he should be doing better at times, which is good.

    Owen believed he was good enough that he could do what he has always done and didnt graft or work hard for possession…he always beleived he was doing the right thing when it wasnt working (EG running behind the defender when it was never getting behind instead of getting in front and hold the ball up).

    Gutierrez is a international for a top team and the Maradona quote of saying he picks Mascherano, Messi and Jonas and 8 others is a testimant to how good he can be. But jonas doesnt think hes better than the club, the only reason he would have left is if his world cup spot was in jeoperdy in the championship.

    Id rather have 11 mis firing Jonas’s than 11 on form Luques any day.

  • Sav

    Feb 8, 2010 at 3:28 AM

    Comment #16

    No superstars. All well and good.
    But Kevin Nolan was supposed to be a bit of a superstar – or at least a decent Premiership player when we signed him but he was pants last year.
    As was Alan Smith.
    And Coloccini.
    And they’re still on superstar bloody wages, apparently. So enough of your yap, and your homespun wisdom, Kevin. You’ve only done it for us in the Championship so far and not pulled up any trees lately either. Less talk and more walk, mate.

    As for the comments about Ashley’s youth policy, would that include Milner, who Ashley sold for profit or Moses, who he wouldn’t stretch a bit deeper to bring here?

  • seetow1

    Feb 8, 2010 at 5:19 AM

    Comment #17

    totally agree with robby bobson, why did we ever sack you? many view sacking bobby robson as the start of our decline, but i think the real start of our decline was when alan shearer retired. once he retired, we had no superstars who would run the entire game just to secure 3 points for us. the only superstars we should get now are superstars that know the meaning of playing for newcastle united, like that norwegian lad skrelsomething

  • Pons Aelius

    Feb 8, 2010 at 11:27 AM

    Comment #18

    Do we want superstars?

    Er… AYE!

    Of course we do. The_Lip is bang on when he says that we need to strike a balance. It’ll be years yet before we get there, but superstars are what made this club great in the 90s and early 2000s:

    Cole, Beardsley, Shearer, Ferdinand, Ginola, Albert, Warren Barton (he was Britain’s most expensive defender), Asprilla, Dyer, Bellamy, Speed and Ferguson were all big-money buys who would have walked into almost any team in the Premiership at the time.

    I think the thing to notice about these ‘superstars’ buys is that the most successful tended to be British players with a proven track record. For me it’s worthwhile spending that little bit extra on quality home-grown talent and mixing that with a committed youth policy.


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