Derby 3 Newcastle 0 – Hopeless, Great, Then Hopeless Again


Alarm bells will be going off at the Newcastle club right now, as Newcastle’s best performance and win last Friday evening, has been followed by their first defeat in 16 league games, and the first time in the league this season that Newcastle have conceded 3 goals.

And the first two sentences of our preview last night said the following:

“After their best performance of the season last Friday night, when they hammered Cardiff City 5-1 – what do you expect Newcastle will do in their next game?”

“A let-down is what usually happens after such a great performance, and we have to remember that even though the lads were just great, it was just one game.”

It’s amazing what has happened in the last 3 league games – just 4 points, two pathetic performances and squeezed in between was the best display of the season, but after all this is Newcastle.

We play terrible football at Leicester and have a hard time holding a 10 man Leicester City side.  And then we come out all guns blazing in the next game and hammer an in-form Cardiff City side 5-1.

And just in case Newcastle fans were getting too carried away – and we were probably guilty of that –  the team suffers their worst defeat of the season against middle of the table Derby County, who are now in 15th position following these 3 points.

Oh well – it’s got to be up from now on – hasn’t it?

The game was all square until the 40th minute, when the best player on the pitch tonight, Kris Commons, put in a good center and Rob Hulse headed in, without a challenge, from just 6 yards out.

Very poor marking by the Magpies and that was the score at the break.

We would have expected to come roaring back in the second half, but it was Derby who did all the attacking, and they had another couple of goals within 18 minutes of the restart.

Following a rapid Derby counter-attack, Michael Tonge played the ball into Hulse, but then fell when challenged by Gutierrez.

Referee Anthony Taylor waved play on, but the linesman must have had a bet on a Derby win, and he flagged like crazy, and the referee relented with a penalty kick against the Magpies.

Isn’t it the referee who decides penalties – whatever the linesman thinks?

Kris Commons, a former Newcastle target, and he may be on the radar screen again after this impressive display, easily beat Harper into the bottom corner of the net – and it was 2-0 to Derby.

Then just 5 minutes later as the Rams were continuing to press forward, a Commons corner saw Carroll head clear, but only to Paul Green, just outside the area.

Green put the ball back into the penalty area, where center-back Shaun Barker swiveled nicely before lashing the ball past several Newcastle players and into the net – would you believe it – 3-0 to Derby County.

Surprisingly Hughton had waited until the 67th minute to make any substitutions, but he made 3 all at once, with Peter Lovenkrands, Shola Ameobi and Alan Smith coming on for Leon Best, Patrick van Aanholt and Andy Carroll.

But Newcastle couldn’t even get a goal back, and for the second time in a couple of weeks, Derby County brought to an end a Championship side’s unbeaten run. They had recently beaten Nottingham Forest 1-0 at Pride Park.

Just when you think Newcastle may be becoming a good attacking side, this is what happens.

You can bet your life there’ll be changes to the starting line-up on Saturday after this disastrous result, but we have to remember it’s just a single game, as bad as it was.

Wins can still get us back on track, after this sobering defeat, which was a long time coming.  However, we do seem to be starting to tail off, at the worst possible time, and in our last 8 league games we’ve drawn 5, won just two and lost this game.

Draws mean nothing, and are not much better than defeats,  so it may even be a good thing that we’ve been beaten after all – if we can quickly get some wins under our belt then things will not look too bad.

But  there’s an “if” in there, and 11 points from 7 games is hardly promotion form, let’s face it.

WBA won 2-0 at home to Scunthorpe, but Nottingham Forest are also going through a bad patch and they lost 1-0 at Coventry tonight.

We’re told that our lads have the mental strength to get us promotion, but this result infers the opposite – but we’ll see what they’re made of on Saturday at Swansea City, and a win then will help to steady the ship.

However, it does look like Swansea are in good form, as they beat Crystal Palace 1-0 in London tonight.

But the very last thing to do is to panic, and we should use this result for our own good – go through this game and see what the lads did wrong, and this should at least ensure we never get too big for our boots.

But we do have to get back some consistency in our play.

We have also been knocked off top position, with WBA now level on points with us on 59, but they now have a better goal difference (30 to our 28), with a 5 goal swing in their favor tonight.

Nottingham Forest have 55 points in 3rd place, but Newcastle have a game in hand on both WBA and Forest. Cardiff are 4th on 48 points.

So as long as we keep our heads, we are still in a decent position to win automatic promotion – as long as we take this defeat the right way – and use it to come right back – starting on Saturday against Swansea City.

The situation Newcastle are now in is nothing that 3 successive wins can’t put right – but we need to stay balanced – which is very hard to do when you are supporting Newcastle United of course. 😀

Let’s all try to stay positive.

Comments welcome.



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45 comments so far

  • connor1009

    Feb 9, 2010 at 10:41 PM

    Comment #1

    It’s pretty funny how much everyone was praising them after the win last week, even heard someone refer to them as world-class, and now they’ve gone and lost 3-0 to Derby, typical Newcastle really.

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  • Tim

    Feb 9, 2010 at 10:41 PM

    Comment #2

    hughtons defensive, cautious line up away from home seems the way forward then…how could i have doubted it!

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  • Isaac Hunt

    Feb 9, 2010 at 10:53 PM

    Comment #3

    WBA are the better organised team. As long as we go uo I don’t care

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  • Isaac Hunt

    Feb 9, 2010 at 10:53 PM

    Comment #4

    up

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  • Fozzy

    Feb 9, 2010 at 11:06 PM

    Comment #5

    We havn’t won f**ck all in my life time, please win the Championship so i can finally gloat about winning something.

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  • G

    Feb 9, 2010 at 11:06 PM

    Comment #6

    Never a dull moment following the toon eh? Still could be worse I suppose, at least we aint pompey fans.!

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  • dazza

    Feb 9, 2010 at 11:07 PM

    Comment #7

    typical toothless Newcastle…just glad I didn’t waste any more time trying to follow the match.

    Can we not poach that Slovakian off WBA? We need some real class in CM

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  • Sav

    Feb 9, 2010 at 11:17 PM

    Comment #8

    Oh! for a decent central midfielder who can dictate the game and spot a pass.
    Both Commons and Savage were candidates for MOTM tonight.
    Nolan needs a rest (or better still, a transfer) and I’m afraid Danny Guthrie seems a disappointment when we’re up against it.
    And once again, Jonas flatters to deceive.

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  • jim

    Feb 9, 2010 at 11:25 PM

    Comment #9

    great eh-10 points clear going into xmas and now were heading for the play offs at this rate-i remember someone saying we wont chuck that ten point lead away this time like in 96? lol-like edwardo said-11 points from a possible 24 isnt championship winning form-but im hoping this was a blip since our new signings look the part-well heres to hoping….

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  • Edd Case

    Feb 9, 2010 at 11:32 PM

    Comment #10

    cant even be bothered tonight…
    what a pile of sh…….

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  • chris6033

    Feb 9, 2010 at 11:35 PM

    Comment #11

    Poor performance tonight. Was at the game, didn’t play well but neither did derby, just took their chances and we didn’t. Commons was class tonight. Onwards and upwards lads!!
    HWTL!!!!

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  • pubcat

    Feb 9, 2010 at 11:36 PM

    Comment #12

    I almost posted before the game that we shouldn’t have picked the same side, simply because it’s best to keep things fresh and also keep the other team guessing!

    Complacency probably set in for one game, but if the team needed a rocket up the proverbials that’ll be it.

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  • boater

    Feb 9, 2010 at 11:42 PM

    Comment #13

    Ed – I just can’t see three straight wins coming these days.

    Sav – Barton coming back is the closest we have to a ball playing midfielder.

    funny one this because – it’s all very well saying we were too open tonight – the 1-0 ugly winning stuff had turned into draws since the end of last year. After a first half of the season in which we were consistently OK but effective – are we now looking at a hot/ cold situation – not knowing when to attack and when to hold, etc?

    Sat=

    harper/
    simpson/colo(hall)/williamson/van A
    routledge/smith/guthrie/guti
    nolan
    ameobi

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  • CAToon

    Feb 9, 2010 at 11:42 PM

    Comment #14

    CH has been a good manager for NUFC this year. But recent results, excluding the Cardiff match, highlights a glaring problem at the club, poor tactical planning on the part of the coaching staff. The talent to take the club back up is now there. CH and his team need to show a stronger commitment to getting the team ready tactically each and every week.

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  • tobes

    Feb 9, 2010 at 11:44 PM

    Comment #15

    Hughton should have mixed it up tonight and not waited til the 67th minute to introduce Lovenkrands. Some of our new players needed a rest. If the boys fall behind, Hughton looks out of his depth.

    Lets hope that for the rest of the season we score inside the first five minutes so that Hughton doesn’t get too flustered.

    Don’t get me wrong, I like Hughton but he lacks experience and so gets nervous very easily and makes mistakes. This will change in time. Unfortunately, he has no time.

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  • Oba

    Feb 9, 2010 at 11:49 PM

    Comment #16

    Good team for Saturday, boater.

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  • Tramp

    Feb 9, 2010 at 11:52 PM

    Comment #17

    It’s obvious that with a team full of new players playing with eachother for the first time that it’s going to take a while to gel.

    That’s all that happened tonight.

    Poor result, poor performance. Let’s look forward though.

    HTL!

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  • NewcastleMole

    Feb 10, 2010 at 1:02 AM

    Comment #18

    Sorry lads ill take the blame for this defeat knew i shouldn’t of bet on us we always lose when i do 🙁

    Lets not forget Derby took 4 points from us in their dismal premier league campaign.

    Problem we have this season is creating chances for ourselves. Particularly the midfield

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  • baro

    Feb 10, 2010 at 1:45 AM

    Comment #19

    Good news Fab Coloccini, and Ryan Taylor are back for Swansea!

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  • baro

    Feb 10, 2010 at 1:51 AM

    Comment #20

    —————————-Harper———————

    R.Taylor—–Williamson—Colo—Van Aanholt

    Routledge——Smith———Nolan——-Jonas-

    ———————Carroll—-Lovendrands——-

    I’m guessing team for Swansea?

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  • baro

    Feb 10, 2010 at 1:52 AM

    Comment #21

    Newcastle Mole

    I think Joey Barton will fix that. Or in the summer Per Ciljan Skjelbred, and Erik Huskelupp hopefully can fix those midfield problems.

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  • NewcastleMole

    Feb 10, 2010 at 1:57 AM

    Comment #22

    i don’t rate R,Taylor tbh what does he do in a match apart from 1 or 2 decent crosses?

    Barton will need match fitness then we’ll see his mindset :/

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  • Thump

    Feb 10, 2010 at 4:46 AM

    Comment #23

    I think we deserved a loss at Leicster. Hopefully it will put a bit of drive into the team – especially away from home. Imagine this kind of play in the Prem?

    That said, I missed the game tonight because I was at an audition… let’s hope I did better than the Toon did.

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  • Magpie_May

    Feb 10, 2010 at 6:14 AM

    Comment #24

    Cheer Ed, good attitude.

    I wasn’t at the match so I didn’t know the lads play good or bad. But one certain thing I do know is this group of lads always play their hearts out and fight every second of the game so I’m appreciate that.
    Sometime no matter what you try so hard but it doesn’t give what you want.
    Let’s get over this match and turn the defeat into great performance to help the team get three point next match and one another

    HOWAY THE LADS !!!

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  • Captain Beefheart

    Feb 10, 2010 at 7:50 AM

    Comment #25

    The best possible result. After a calamitous last two months in which we squandered a 12 point lead by surrendering to draws against all and sundry, suddenly this hurts. Barnsley away should have hurt, Bristol City home should have hurt and Leicester away was a disaster. There’s 6 points thrown away – but because we didn’t actually lose there were no alarm bells ringing. Look at every team’s form over the last 6 to 8 games – and that’s where we should be in the league, which is barely play off standard at the moment.

    The stats do not support Ed’s contention that we are in a good position to get automatic promotion on current form, and the players need to take heed. I sincerely hope new signings did not see NUFC as an easy ticket to premiership wages, as they are going to be sorely disappointed by May.

    This is not not a blip, Cardiff was the blip, and we need to take heed that once any half together team set about us down the flanks we look very vulnerable. Poor Danny Simpson had a ‘mare, but he was not alone. We need to string 6 wins (not 5 draws and a win) together, and for that I’ll gladly accept the lesson handed out at Pride Park as being of more use than yet another hopeless draw and more complacency.

    Promotion is won on current form, and in that we are well behind our rivals – take note Chris and make sure the players can do the maths as well! This result will be the turning point, either way, up or down as time is running out.

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  • The Entertainers

    Feb 10, 2010 at 8:00 AM

    Comment #26

    We were the better side up until the second goal, as strange as that sounds!

    But our fizzy pop standard defence, certainly went pop last night.
    I have had my concerns about Williamson and Hall ever since buying them……..i know its only one game, but i have major doubts.

    As for Best, it would have been for the best not to have bought him. He is too similar in his style to Shola, Carroll and Ranger, except i’d pick all 3 over him!
    Waste of what little money CH had.

    Everyone raved about our Jan signings, i have to admit in an ideal world they would struggle to make the bench in any decent PL side.

    A token of our ambition / financial situation, was and is how i see these very average CCC signings.

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  • bournemag

    Feb 10, 2010 at 8:18 AM

    Comment #27

    at least its never boring

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  • The Entertainers

    Feb 10, 2010 at 8:50 AM

    Comment #28

    Just realised Swansea away next…………!

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  • Ericles

    Feb 10, 2010 at 8:54 AM

    Comment #29

    I agree with The Entertainers. Last night was an example of inconsistency of both the players and Hughton! We have no playmakers. Nobody with any midfield skills that will get us promoted and challenging in the Premiership. Enough of these stop-gap journeymen.

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  • Ericles

    Feb 10, 2010 at 9:05 AM

    Comment #30

    What is the real trend at NUFC? The reality is not the drubbing of Cardiff, the reality is the poor results elsewhere on a regular basis. How and why have we lost our previous respectable lead and slipped now to second place? Where is the imaginative and intelligent football we should be seeing? Our flash in the pan football is taking us out of that pan into the fire. Captain Beefheart is right and sums up where and what we are now. I just hope we do not have to listen to Hughton enthusing about our chances in the playoffs in May!

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  • Mag 48

    Feb 10, 2010 at 9:50 AM

    Comment #31

    Are Hughton and his team about to be found out? Or can they both show us they are up to the job.Swansea is now a pressure game when it did’nt need to be. Sorry Chris your holiday is over!!

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  • Thump

    Feb 10, 2010 at 9:52 AM

    Comment #32

    Bang on captain beefheart. Good band too 😉

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  • NUFC-0809-Oh Dear

    Feb 10, 2010 at 10:58 AM

    Comment #33

    I think the players are very much of the mind that they can walk this league, and that is gonna bite them on the ar$e.

    To win anything you need to be consistent, which we have not been, sure we are level on points with WBA with a game in hand, but we were 12 points clear and we have just thrown it away to mediocre sides with poor poor performances.

    Shocking match last night, not one of our starting eleven turned up, need a blood good kick up the arse and a re-shuffle for Swansea.

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  • lesh

    Feb 10, 2010 at 10:59 AM

    Comment #34

    Well, mindful of last night’s drubbing, it’s comforting to read that we’re planning for medium term improvement already.

    One, we know and love, the other with lots of potential.

    http://www.tribalfootball.com/newcastle-planning-wigan-raid-bramble-watson-633711

    Those signings’ll surely mean Prem top four next season

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  • NUFC-0809-Oh Dear

    Feb 10, 2010 at 11:05 AM

    Comment #35

    lesh

    absolutely shocking article that one.

    Why would we want Bramble back?
    We have the strongest back four that we have had for a while.

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  • lesh

    Feb 10, 2010 at 11:30 AM

    Comment #36

    @ NUFC-0809-Oh Dear // Feb 10, 2010 at 10:58 AM

    Well, it is the Sun!

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  • dave 1961

    Feb 10, 2010 at 11:53 AM

    Comment #37

    This game just shows how little Hughton’s has learned he is not a manager just a puppet of the owner, he was the cheapest option at the time but when you add in the money wasted on second rate failures it don’t sound to good a cheap an option now, well we might make the play offs.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Feb 10, 2010 at 12:56 PM

    Comment #38

    Spot on Ericles. I would have spent whatever money on Moses or / and Skeljbred – some class playmakers, not a bunch of journeymen as you correctly point out.

    Really don’t see the point of hall when we have Kadar or best when we have Ranger.

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  • jasonbourne

    Feb 10, 2010 at 2:47 PM

    Comment #39

    Last time Necastle lost a game in Championship, was 20th of october. Right after that defeat, they won seven in a row. I refuse to panic just because there form is been lower than average for some games now.

    Lets get 30 more points, aand get the fuck out of this League.

    Howay the Lads!

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  • Mexes

    Feb 10, 2010 at 3:18 PM

    Comment #40

    For Saturday:

    —————————-Harper———————

    Simpson—–Williamson—Colo—Van Aanholt

    Routledge——Smith———Nolan——-Jonas-

    ———————Carroll—-Lovendrands——-

    Whats the word on Enrique `?

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