Nottingham Forest Lose – WBA Draw In FA Cup


The Gods are lining up behind Newcastle United – and it’s about time.

Chris Hughton – under pressure

Nottingham Forest were beaten this afternoon at Doncaster Rovers by 1-0, with a Billy Sharp goal being enough after 31 minutes.

And after 83 minutes Forest’s Gareth McCleary was sent off, and the result leaves Newcastle now 5 points clear of 3rd placed Forest, with a goal in hand and a superior goal difference.

That lucky draw today is now looking just a little bit better.

And second placed WBA came from behind with a late equalizer after 87 minutes by impressive 19 year-old Joe Mattock at Reading, to gain a 2-2 draw, and a replay back at West Brom.

This was a well fought game, with Shane Long of Reading being given a red card after 48 minutes, and Youssouf Molunbu obliging after 61 minutes with a stupid foul, that had him sent off and the sides back level at 10 men apiece.

But 3rd bottom Reading gave WBA all they could handle this afternoon, and were just a little unlucky not to go through – but this is a good result for Newcastle, because it could almost guarantee two more games for WBA in the FA Cup.

And WBA still have 16 games to finish in the Championship – all before the beginning of May.  That will add to the games WBA have to play, especially if they win the replay, which will be the expected result.

Newcastle’s two upcoming home games against Coventry and Preston, will give them a chance to move even further ahead in an automatic promotion place.

But Newcastle, like Nottingham Forest are going through a bad patch, but surely after all the good work this season, Newcastle will not let mental weakness stand in the way of getting back to the top flight at the first attempt.

It’s hard to think that will happen, but hey, this is Newcastle after all, where nothing comes easy.

Howay The Lads!!

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34 comments so far

  • Turkish Magpie

    Feb 13, 2010 at 5:09 PM

    Comment #1

    game in hand dont you mean?

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  • Smithy

    Feb 13, 2010 at 5:42 PM

    Comment #2

    i have faith we will turn this around (form) and finish top.our midfield have to run at defenders not turn our back to goal and play it back to our defence all the time.

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  • kristfro

    Feb 13, 2010 at 6:30 PM

    Comment #3

    This is so damn irritating. Typical NUFC amateur cr@p. We HAVE TO learn how to recreate good performances and concentrate on the playing rather than how the table looks. A hallmark of true champions is that they can focus on continuously improving themselves regardless of other athletes’ or own success. Never mind more players, we badly need some sports psychologists…

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  • BECKS

    Feb 13, 2010 at 6:45 PM

    Comment #4

    HAS ANYONE ELSE DID THAT DRAW THAT ITV ARE DOIN??????????

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  • Captain Beefheart

    Feb 13, 2010 at 7:21 PM

    Comment #5

    No ifs, no buts, it was a rotten result and rotten performance, period! Anyone that says otherwise should take up tiddlywinks.

    We are now suffering the death of a thousand draws as we continue to fall further back into the back and rely on others to lose – and if we fail to take all 6 points in the next 2 games we can kiss this season goodbye to even the play offs as these are exactly the type of under-performances that got us relegated last year, just like the ones we usually reserve for big occasions like Wembley (where we haven’t won since 1955 in case you need reminding – so do you really relish a play off decider against a wounded Cardiff or a bullish Blackpool )?

    kristfro, spot on, mate!! This is certainly a sports psychology job, and a one that goes right to the heart of the club – not just the out-of-sorts and apparently clueless individuals chasing around the pitch. We are in the midst a crisis, but there is still just about time to turn it round. By the end of February it will be too late (just like the denial that accompanied last season’s painful slide into oblivion until it was all too late by a solitary point) , so please Chris no more excuses something is terribly wrong here.

    You are manager, this is your job, acknowledge the crisis & sort it out before you become yet another statistic in our ‘Appointing the Coach seemed a Good Idea at the Time’ book alongside Willie McFaul, Glenn Roeder & Richard Dinnis.

    Are the players bullying you? Is discipline a problem? Has the training work ethic slackened? Why is the hopeless midfield picking itself? Whatever the reason, you need to face up to it or our calamitous fall from a 12 point Championship lead will haunt you just as it still does KK.

    Unless you take the time to sort things, something tells me Ashley will provide you with an indefinite period of free time to ponder exactly what went wrong long before the end of the season arrives.

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  • dave 1961

    Feb 13, 2010 at 7:55 PM

    Comment #6

    yes hughton is proving he’s one half of the chuckle brothers, and this is the same as last season, we will wait until its too late, then go cap in hand to shearer, & i feel he will be wise enough to walk the other way. it should have been shearer now we will pay the price (failure ye again) we are experts at dragging failure out of the jaws of success.

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  • chanty

    Feb 13, 2010 at 8:50 PM

    Comment #7

    i know we haven’t played stunning football, but they are grinding out results. we deserved nothing today and gained a point on our two nearest rivals. if we win all our home games and draw all our away games i think that would be enough for promotion.

    turning some of the draws into wins and playing in a more entertaining fashion, would be a bonus.

    i think nolan needs to be rested, has looked off the pace for a while now. move guthrie in the middle for a few games, get routledge and jonas bombing down the wings and putting some balls in the box as we do have an arial threat up front

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  • geordielad880

    Feb 13, 2010 at 9:21 PM

    Comment #8

    woeful performance today, only players who can even say even come out with any credit are, van aanholt, and simpson.

    Team for next game:

    ………………………….harper

    simpson…..williamson…collocini……van aanholt

    routledge…a.smith……..guthrie………….jonas

    ………………ranger………ameobi

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  • Turkish Magpie

    Feb 13, 2010 at 9:29 PM

    Comment #9

    geordielad- and Routledge, he made mistakes today but best performer on the team

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  • geordielad880

    Feb 13, 2010 at 9:32 PM

    Comment #10

    yeah turkish mag and routledge, never mentioned him, but sousa the swansea manager knew all about him, so had him marked well, he signed him for QPR, he still seems a little off the pace for the toon, still settling in probably

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  • Turkish Magpie

    Feb 13, 2010 at 10:02 PM

    Comment #11

    agreed geordielad

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  • GeordieMeerkat

    Feb 13, 2010 at 10:07 PM

    Comment #12

    We have failed in our last away games because we have a midfield that can’t battle that well against other teams and what’s more those teams have that bit more pace so we can’t get near the ball. And when we do we play at a slow tempo which is only effective with the more clinical of players.

    As a result we don’t look like we have the numerical advantage in midfield which is very poor.

    Just a little injection of energy into the engine room and we could see many performances like that against Cardiff with the wingers being brought into play frequently, and into good positions, throughout each match.

    It’s this reason why I look forward to Barton’s return and my main hope for our summer shopping whatever our position come May.

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  • geordielad880

    Feb 13, 2010 at 10:07 PM

    Comment #13

    newcastle should maybe give donaldson, baheng, or inman a run out, cant be any worse than today surely, might freshen things up a bit, donaldson has looked good in reserves and england under 21’s, plays the same position as nolan, worth a shot as nolan looks tired, dont rate him that much anyways.

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  • frogeordie

    Feb 13, 2010 at 10:17 PM

    Comment #14

    Increasingly I am concerend that CH as well as being a poor manager is naive. Much was made of the players committee back in the summer and I read with concern that the players decided after the defeats last year that they would put a run together. The same players apparently ahve made a similar decision. Who is running the club and picking the team, CH or the players?
    I keep reading that CH is an outstanding coach. Am I the only one who looks in vain for any sign of team play? We don’t even pass the ball to one another!
    I am fully behind the idea that we must get behind the team, pull together and so on but come on lets see some development and team play. I see the same slow pedestrian fotball that got us relegated. Fortunately other teams are trying harder than we are to get us promoted and lets face it, a lucky team beats a good team anyday. Grinding out results? No lucky.

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  • Charlietoon

    Feb 13, 2010 at 10:58 PM

    Comment #15

    As we are still unbeaten at home in the league this season I have a good reason to have faith in the team and the manager. I think he is still working out his tactics and what players play best together and not many of us can complain because twice now he has gone 4,4,2 with the players we have been shouting for him to use. We don’t know if he has had to make decisions based on injuries but either way it has not worked out.

    We have two games now to concentrate on getting maximum points and it seems right now the team needs the fans more than ever. Lets help em up to the premiership cause at the end of the day thats what we wall want.

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  • Charlietoon

    Feb 13, 2010 at 11:18 PM

    Comment #16

    One other thing.

    Last season we dropped a lot of points in the last 5 minutes of games. This season it has been the other way around and we have salvaged a couple of points this way and I don’t think we have conceded many in the final 5 at all. This is a very very pleasing aspect of our game and hopefully something that will continue to occur.

    They are starting strong enough that much is clear. but they do tend to finish quite well.

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  • Daverism

    Feb 13, 2010 at 11:28 PM

    Comment #17

    Jesus, a point away to a team in fourth! I’m not whinging.. Awful performance but some of the comments on here are ridiculous!

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  • lewisnufc

    Feb 14, 2010 at 1:03 AM

    Comment #18

    we have too many deluded fans in my opinion like.

    If someone said to us before the season began, just after the 6-1 defeat to leyton orient
    “come 30 games into the season you’ll be 5 points ahead of the play off places and top of the league” ANY REALISTIC fan would have snatched their hands off!

    fair enough CH cant pull out the results and performances away from home, but were still top of the league, after a dismal run, so he must be doing something right?

    Its always the same with the deluded fans, as soon as one thing goes wrong, they jump straight on the teams backs, picking out every minute fault.

    But they forget, most of our players are used to football of the high standard, on top quality pitches etc. not on the sh!t pitches and against the physical teams, who play a style of foootball completely different to good teams… it must take some adjustment surely.
    the perfect examples are when the premier league clubs go to league 1, league 2 teams and get turned over? surely the way some people go on they should never lose…

    rant over…
    Howay the lads, am sure were still going to be there come the end of the season, JUST KEEP THE FAITH!

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  • MacToon

    Feb 14, 2010 at 2:05 AM

    Comment #19

    It’s not that we’re not doing well in the CCC, we obviously are as we are top of the league, it’s that we are so far from being competitive in the prem, maybe fight for survival at best but we’re a million miles away from a top 10 prem team.

    That’s sad.

    What is a shame (or maybe a god send) is that we were knocked out of the cup competitions before we played any prem teams, so a whole season without testing our standard against a top league team.

    What’ll happen if we have Arsenal away first game back in the prem…. or even something tougher…….

    I understand the club has improved in many ways, especially finantially but the standard of football has dropped beyond recognition. Is Hughton the man to take us back…. ?

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  • Charlietoon

    Feb 14, 2010 at 4:56 AM

    Comment #20

    Mactoon we have not been a top 10 prem team for 4 or 5 years.

    I do like this piece of info though

    Swansea conceded for the first time at the Liberty Stadium in more than 10 hours.

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  • The Entertainers

    Feb 14, 2010 at 8:21 AM

    Comment #21

    I had major doubts about CH when he took over, however as the season has progressed he has won me over and with out a doubt deserves a chance to manage in the PL.

    He has made some good decisions as well as bad, but were still top (just).

    What has not helped CH this season is the lack of finance from the clown in charge. CH knew he needed to bring in bodies, but due to lack of cash was only able to buy average CCC players, Williamson, Hall and Best are exactly this standard. Routledge may become an average PL player if he and we are lucky.
    The second problem facing CH is the current players are looking worn out and past their sell by date, the fitness at the club needs questioning.
    Players like Smith, Nolan, Guthrie, Shola, Butt are not even looking like decent CCC players never mind PL standards.
    I’ve seen players at other CCC teams run rings around our players, Williams and Pratley at Swansea are young hungry ex-PL players and looked fantastic. There are many quality players in the CCC league, Dorrans, Gunter, Anderson, Maynard, Cleverly and many other young talented players.
    However we seem to have bought players of a lesser standard.

    Like i say CH has won me over however the current lazy ex-PL players and the owners lack of ambition is holding him and the club back

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  • spiderpig

    Feb 14, 2010 at 8:53 AM

    Comment #22

    one shot on target,one goal.lucky buggers.should have been spanked.nolan guthrie and smith are bloody cart horses.give me pratley or cleverley any day.nolan shouldnt get a game unless he’s up front.where he is useful.ch is playing the high payed blue chip brigade to the detriment of fast free flowing football.guthrie on the wing .give me a break

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  • psb

    Feb 14, 2010 at 9:29 AM

    Comment #23

    Pratley ? Cleverley ? Come of it ! They are Championship players and only good to average ones at that. If they are so good, how is it their teams are where they are ?

    As usual, a poor performance (and I agree that it was drivel) brings all the “quick fix” theories out of the woodwork – “sign Pratley, sign Cleverley, sign Dorrans, bring back Barton” (ffs). Have you forgotte Joey’s lamentable showings earlier in the season ?

    Whenever we do badly, everyone sems to think it can be fixed if only the manager would do this or that. We have had the apologists for the execrable Guthrie claiming if we in the middle he would morph into Steven Gerrard. Hmmmm. Then there are the ones who think Nile Ranger is the new Shearer. Hmmm again, he really knows how to finish doesn’t he ? Now we have the ones calling for untried kids to be thrown into the melee of a promotion dogfight – Donaldson, Baheng, Inman (who ??). Oh yes, sure to make a difference. Just like the did in the Carling Cup, when Peterborough (yes Peterborough) walked all over us and should have had 5 or 6.

    Idiot thinking. Idiot logic.

    That said, I do fully accept yesterday’s performance was poor and that Nolan needs a rest. Guthrie should be dropped off the Tyne bridge.

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  • The Entertainers

    Feb 14, 2010 at 12:02 PM

    Comment #24

    PSB

    “Idiot thinking. Idiot logic.”

    Theres an old adage, isnt there. Something, like it takes one to know one?

    I love the way you lambast everyone for offering there opinion on the team they support. As well as support, is’nt that what footballs all about…..opinions? Particularly on a blog site !!

    But i love the fact you criticise everyone for having an opinion, then make one yourself !Heres another old adage mate, people in glass houses……………..

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  • psb

    Feb 14, 2010 at 12:26 PM

    Comment #25

    well, Mr Entertainer, you don’t offer much in the way of support, do you ? After every game that doesn’t meet with your approval you offer your own half-baked ideas for fixing the perceived problem.

    Surely, you don’t support the notion that promotion can be won by replacing experienced players with kids for the last sixteen games ? Surely not ! Anyone can see that is an idea straight from the “fantasy football” generation and worth nothing but conempt .

    You are perfectly correct, it is all about opinions and mine is that the majority of opinions expressed on this site are ill-conceived and verging on the lunatic.

    “It’s what football’s all about”. More cliched nonsense.

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  • The Entertainers

    Feb 14, 2010 at 12:49 PM

    Comment #26

    PSB:
    I may come out with the odd cliche, but i hopefully dont contradict myself ?

    First of all you stated in an earlier comment and i quote:
    “We have had the apologists for the execrable Guthrie claiming if we in the middle he would morph into Steven Gerrard. Hmmmm. Then there are the ones who think Nile Ranger is the new Shearer. Hmmm again, he really knows how to finish doesn’t he ? ”

    Then you make the claim of, and i quote again:
    “well, Mr Entertainer, you don’t offer much in the way of support, do you ? ”

    I’m sorry i missed the PSB lessons on contradictary support !

    Its simple mate if you believe most comments on this site are “ill-conceived and verging on the lunatic.” or if your as “SICK AS A PARROTT” about these comments, then i would be “OVER THE MOON” if you decided to trawled other blog sites!
    Hows that for some of footballs most popular cliches!

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  • psb

    Feb 14, 2010 at 12:57 PM

    Comment #27

    Entertainer, I am not contradicting myself. I have always doubted the worth of messrs Guthrie and Ranger.

    You, on the other hand, have failed to say whether you feel bringing Donaldson, Baheng and Inman into the team is an idea that shows good sense.

    Come on, answer me, is it a good idea or not ?

    It seems I am in a minority of one on this site in that I feel, in the circumstances, to be top of the league with 60 points right now is a good thing. Most of you seem to be rubbing your hands in delight at the thought of another poor performance.

    I bet you were inwardly cursing at the Cardiff game, knowing you couldn’t moan about anything – for a few days at least. You can’t wait for Coventry to beat us can you, so you can come on here and say “I told you so” and “It’s all Ashley’s fault” blah blah blah.

    As long as you’re on this site -so am I.

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  • The Entertainers

    Feb 14, 2010 at 1:09 PM

    Comment #28

    The subject of ‘blooding’ our more talented youngesters is one i would be delighted to see. But with these kids timing is everything and right now it would not be a good idea to bring them in.

    I’m a firm believer that these kids should go out on loan in a lower league and only then should they be considered for 1st team action. Nobody knows how Inman would play if thrown in the next game, not even the lad himself.

    Loan first, then consider 1st team action. It never did Arsenal or Man Yoo any harm to do it with the likes of Beckham, Song, Wilshire etc.
    Yes if we had a Rooney or Fabregas in our squad give them a chance fine, but we dont.

    I hope that answered your question. I’m a big fan of blooding our kids and love the fact that the clown in charge brings in new youngsters regularly (one of the few things the man has done right)

    As for welcoming defeats, i enjoyed sparing with your half considered comments, however you now have become frivolous with your opinions.

    Get back to half intellectual and innovative comments and i’d welcome you on this site!

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  • psb

    Feb 14, 2010 at 1:16 PM

    Comment #29

    And who exactly gave you the power to welcome me on this site or not ? I have every right to come on this site and say what I bloody well like, be it frivolous, half-baked puerile or sensible .

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  • The Entertainers

    Feb 14, 2010 at 1:20 PM

    Comment #30

    PSB

    At your contradictary best again !

    “I have every right to come on this site and say what I bloody well like, be it frivolous, half-baked puerile or sensible .”

    Love it………but you cant accept other peoples comments without getting upset!

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  • psb

    Feb 14, 2010 at 1:24 PM

    Comment #31

    Neither can you, numbnuts. That’s what got you on your high horse in the first place. You couldn’t tolerate my differing opinions.

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  • The Entertainers

    Feb 14, 2010 at 1:28 PM

    Comment #32

    If i recall (it may be you age, i’ll forgive you in that case), but was it not your good self that attacked other peoples comments, including mine, before i retaliated. Oh and my initial comments never included any personal attacks, like “idiot”………i only dropped to your level much later in my comments!

    All i did was offer an opinion on a blog site…..the shock of it!

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  • psb

    Feb 14, 2010 at 1:31 PM

    Comment #33

    Yes and your opinion was wrong.

    Catch you later in the season when I will prove I was right.

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  • The Entertainers

    Feb 14, 2010 at 1:31 PM

    Comment #34

    No problem mate…………have enjoyed!

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