Nottingham Forest Dip Has Given Newcastle A Lift

Andy Carroll saved Newcastle’s blushes yesterday afternoon, when he put away an 87th minute equalizer,  from a good cross from new-boy Leon Best.

Andy Carroll – 9th goal of the season

That point was just enough to take us back to the top over WBA, who drew their FA Cup 5th round tie at 3rd bottom placed Reading.

But chances were at a minimum for the Newcastle strikers in this game, as Newcastle again packed the midfield, after their experiment of actually attacking away from home didn’t exactly pay off  at Derby County.

Chris Hughton, who has a job to do to prise awake most of his Newcastle players, from the slumber they seem to have slipped into, was nevertheless pleased with Andy’s goal, as were the very grateful Newcastle supporters.

Chris said after the game:

“It was a difficult game for Andy and the service could have been better,”

“He put in a shift for the team and he would have been hoping for that one chance.”

“When it came I was delighted for him and it was a very good finish from a very good cross from Leon Best.”

“We challenged him to add goals to his game and he has certainly done that of late.”

But it seemed to us that Chris was out-coached again by the up-and-coming Paulo Sousa, who has Swansea playing some excellent football this season. That’s the type of football we’d love to see at Newcastle, to be sure.

And to say Andy didn’t have much service was only because that’s the way Newcastle elected to play this game, packing the midfield, so it was Chris’ tactics that almost guaranteed Andy would have a tough afternoon, which he did.

But we picked up a point away from home, against a very good looking side, so we have to be satisfied with the result, if not the performance.

And that’s especially true since later in the afternoon Nottingham Forest managed to be beaten again, this time at Doncaster Rovers.

That’s three of the last four league games Forest have lost, and if they had won those games they would have been on 64 points, so Newcastle are lucky that their dip in form has been more than matched by the 3rd placed side.

And with WBA drawing at Reading they will be guaranteed at least one, and maybe two more games, at least in the FA Cup, which will add to the gamnes they need to play in the next vital 10 weeks.

Remember the last league games in the Championship are on Sunday, May 2nd, much earlier than the Premier League ends.

But it’s up to Newcastle to earn their promotion, and not rely on the poor performances of other sides for keeping them in the promotion race this season.

There will be no excuses for not attacking in the eight remaining home games – none at all. We will have to attack in every one of those games and try to get all three points.

24 points are up for grabs at home, and if we are get promotion it looks like we’ll need to get the vast majority of those points, given our rather wimpy performances away from home.

Chris would do well to remember that fortune favors the brave, and we don’t want to get promoted by struggling against those teams we should be able to beat, and beat easily.

That’s where mental strength comes into the equation – so let’s not make it any harder than it really is.

We’ll see how things shape up next on Wednesday night, against a beatable Coventry City side at St. James’ Park.  Coventry won 1-0 at home to QPR yesterday – so they are due a defeat. 😀

Most of the Championship games will take place on the Tuesday evening, so we will know how WBA and Nottingham Forest have done, before we even start Wednesday’s game.

Comments welcome.

21 comments so far

  • jimiley

    Feb 14, 2010 at 6:41 PM

    Comment #1

    We badly need Barton back to give us a bit of creativity in centre mid as the men in rocking chairs…. Butt Smith and Nolan are just not up to it. This team must be the most boring NUFC since the early 80s. It makes Big Sam’s team look like Brazil. It really saddens me to write it.

  • Tom Mo.

    Feb 14, 2010 at 6:52 PM

    Comment #2

    I feel good about wednesday.

  • clooneytoon

    Feb 14, 2010 at 7:20 PM

    Comment #3

    Carroll needs to look at video’s of how Shearer used to play with his back to goal and hold up the ball. With his size he should be able to hold off any defender.

  • baro

    Feb 14, 2010 at 9:03 PM

    Comment #4


    I totally agree with u.

  • Ollieh51

    Feb 14, 2010 at 9:13 PM

    Comment #5

    Clooney Toon…

    That’d work if we had anybody that was a goal scorer that got into the goal scoring positions him doing that would create but we don’t.

    Joey coming back will ironically be the break I think we need to kick start our season. But then again, before his injuries he was hardly dazzling with his performances…

  • Charlietoon

    Feb 14, 2010 at 9:13 PM

    Comment #6

    ed I think this season has shown that it is not ‘easy’ to beat anyone in this division and the sooner we ditch that mentality the better. Each and every game needs to be approached with the same commitment and intensity and its by thinking games are going to be easy that we get outplayed. I don’t think any of the other teams are relaxed when they play us.

    I am happy we got the first goal at swansea in 10 hours of football. I am glad that after

  • Charlietoon

    Feb 14, 2010 at 9:14 PM

    Comment #7

    I’m glad that after over half the season at the top we are top of the pops and 5 points clear of third.

  • clooneytoon

    Feb 14, 2010 at 10:19 PM

    Comment #8

    well as you said barton could make the runs into the box and lovenkrands off carroll in behind, the fact is we need him to hold up the ball espeically in a 4-5-1 away otherwise its gonna be the opposition with all the possession.

  • scrotty

    Feb 14, 2010 at 10:37 PM

    Comment #9

    I think Jonas is the difference to be honest. You can argue his final ball is lacking but his runs take pressure off our back four and his tracking back is second to none.

    Carroll is an awful player for us. He’s a prime example of what happens when you throw a load of money at a young lad. He’s a nob off the pitch and a disgrace on it

    Carroll is another Barton waiting to happen and though I can see they may be needed to do a job at the minute we should get rid of both asap.

  • bobby_ollox

    Feb 15, 2010 at 12:06 AM

    Comment #10

    Good call Scrotty – Jonas is underrated and we do miss his creativity. I am really disappointed in Caroll and Ameobi to be honest. While they wwill never be in the same class as shearer or a cole, they both have everything they need to be a respected player. Instead you see them complaining and whining about referees decisions.

  • clooneytoon

    Feb 15, 2010 at 12:22 AM

    Comment #11

    Ameobi is also capable of holding up the ball but carroll is first choice at the mo because he’s scoring despite playing awful.

    Jonas,enrique,collocini and S.taylor are our best players

  • Sav

    Feb 15, 2010 at 1:51 AM

    Comment #12

    Bad day at the Toon when we are calling for Joey Barton to save the day.
    Did Nile Ranger reverse over Hughton’s cat, or what? He looked the best at holding up the ball and bringing in team-mates but he’s fallen off the radar.

  • NewcastleMole

    Feb 15, 2010 at 1:52 AM

    Comment #13


    Carroll is 10x better than Ameobi in the Air.

    Ameobi gives away needless freekicks all the time

  • Tom Mo.

    Feb 15, 2010 at 4:23 AM

    Comment #14

    i wouldn’t say carroll is awful.

  • dougnufc

    Feb 15, 2010 at 4:44 AM

    Comment #15

    Carroll has potential, he may not be consistent but when he is on form he leads the line very well and bangs some in.

    You may talk about Carroll’s poor goal record but you also need to know that Shearer’s goal record at Southampton (When he was young) was not impressive as well.

    Just give Big Andy time and he will prove you guys wrong 🙂

  • Rotonda heights

    Feb 15, 2010 at 8:21 AM

    Comment #16

    Scrotty you’re right about Carroll, he’s somewhat even more intellectually challenged than the average footballer !Personally I think Ranger holds the ball a hell of a lot better than carroll, but with best coming in, he won’t get the chances to now.

    Carroll = route 1 and I can’t believe some people still think barton is going to be our creative midfield force.

    WBA have proved that being top of the table and playing good football don’t have to be mutually exclusive.

  • geordielad880

    Feb 15, 2010 at 9:49 AM

    Comment #17

    I jus read something this morning that i thought was interesting:

    On 1 September 2008, Xisco signed for Newcastle United (the player’s brother, Tony Jiménez, worked as scout for the English club besides being a players’ agent[1]) for a reported initial fee of £5.7 million, although the fee could eventually rise to £7 million subject to conditions.

    I didnt know Tony Jiminez are xisco’s brother, or is that just me?

  • Ericles

    Feb 15, 2010 at 10:00 AM

    Comment #18

    The performance against Swansea was not good enough. We are just grinding out results with boring unimaginative second class football. We are not going up with this style. If we do go up we will not stay up with this journeyman crap.
    The truth is, with a 30,000 weekly wage cap by Ashley, we will become a selling club with Premier targets like Steve Taylor, Enrique, even Jonas and Coloccini, moving on to better pay and better things. I fear our younger up and coming players will be enticed away by bigger salary offers come May. Ashley is taking us to the dogs and he seems to have the support of his dull as ditchwater kennel maid Hughton. Ashley has cheap labour overseas now he wants in at St James Park as well!

  • Ericles

    Feb 15, 2010 at 10:10 AM

    Comment #19

    With Hughton it is the same old record week in and week out. With some of the players it is the same old record week in and week out. We should be storming the Championship most weeks. We should be where West brom or Palace are now in the FA Cup. WE should not be waiting for our nearest competition to drop points for us to maintain our lead.

  • Nobby_Long

    Feb 15, 2010 at 10:38 AM

    Comment #20

    The truth is we have been very lucky at times this season. Had Swansea had a better striker, we would have been hammered on Saturday.

    Yes we are top of the league, and we are very grateful for that, but that performance was terrible.

    Smith & Nolan are getting worse by the game. I’ve heard many & seen many people slagging off Guthrie, but everytime he had the ball (and again being played out of position) he has no-one to give him any option….the forwards were too static, and Smith was not even interested in moving into space to get the ball. What was Guthrie supposed to do ???? Nolan was utterly embarrassing…… the club’s programme notes, the players always state that he is the best trainer….well if that’s the case then he must be wearing himself out……in my opinion he was the worst ( and slowest) player on the pitch by a country mile.

    We need some fresher younger legs in the middle of the park….sort that out and we would look a million times better.

  • Mr Books

    Feb 15, 2010 at 12:15 PM

    Comment #21


    It would be great if Carrol could hold up the ball – it would be a damn site easier for him if he didn’t have to run 30 yards and get past a defender to get to the ball played up to him!


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