Newcastle Win All Four Home Games And Promotion Certain

Newcastle now have 9 games to play in their first Championship season  since being relegated, but automatic promotion is still not certain.

Chris Hughton – needs four home wins out of  four for promotion

Of the 9 games to go, 5 of them are away from home, and as we witnessed on Saturday, Newcastle are only half the team they are at home.

The 5 away games are against Doncaster, Peterborough, Reading, Plymouth nd QPR.  Only Peterborough looks like a game we should win, and would expect Hughton to field a team that attack right from the start.

But most of the other games are doubtful, although Newcastle should be able to beat Plymouth Argyle, although they couldn’t manage that at Portman Road in the FA Cup 3rd round in early January, when we could only draw 0-0.

The four home games we have left are against Nottingham Forest, Sheffield United, Blackpool and Ipswich Town.

All of those games are ones the lads can win, and a week on Monday it promises to be some game against Nottingham Forest,  where it could come down to that game that propels Newcastle United to the Premiership with a win.

However, we shouldn’t forget that Forest dismantled WBA 3-1 at the Hawthorns back on January 8th, and that score was complimentary to WBA, who were torn apart by Forest who were 3-0 up after 56 minutes,  before letting up a little.

But Forest seem to have gone off the boil since then, especially away from home.

But let’s assume Newcastle can indeed win all of their four remaining home games, and that would give us 12 more points and put Newcastle on 89 points, even if we lose all 5 away games, which is unlikely to say the least.

Indeed, if the lads can do that Newcastle will be promoted automatically.

Nottingham Forest currently have 67 points with 8 games left, and if they win all 7 games, apart from the Newcastle loss, they will add 21 points and will end up with only 88 points, one point less than Newcastle.

So there you have it – win all our remaining four home games and the lads get automatic promotion.

The other way to put it is that Newcastle now need 5 wins in their last 9 games, assuming they lose to Forest next Monday night.

That’s because that gives Newcastle 92 points,  and if Forest win all of their remaining 8 games, including at Newcastle,  the best they can do is to get to 91 points.

Howay the Lads!!

26 comments so far

  • toonie

    Mar 21, 2010 at 5:20 PM

    Comment #1

    Why on earth do Newcastle not employ the same tactics and formation home & away?
    Surely promotion would be in the bag if they did that.Sitting back and inviting teams to attack away from home does not suit the current team.

  • daffy

    Mar 21, 2010 at 5:53 PM

    Comment #2

    As a Sunderland fan i think promotion for Newcastle is a formality but do you think
    1. Chris Hughton can attract big name players which you prob will require to avoid e relegation battle.
    2. Judging the turmoil of Nufc over the past couple of seasons , will this have a negative affect on bringing players in?

  • pearceet

    Mar 21, 2010 at 6:04 PM

    Comment #3

    daffy // Mar 21, 2010 at 5:53 PM

    1. We don’t want any big name players.

    2. After the season we’ve had we have shown why we shouldn’t be in the Championship. So we should be able to attract the right type of player, not the big name players

  • daffy

    Mar 21, 2010 at 6:10 PM

    Comment #4

    You are in the championship because you were not good enough in the prem & if you dont strengthen you will go straight back down.

  • jimiley

    Mar 21, 2010 at 6:15 PM

    Comment #5

    We will get promoted but this team needs serious strengthening in the Premiership. We have only one game away from home easily (Ipswich) and every other game has been a struggle even when we have won by the odd goal. We would lose most of those games in the Premiership. Adding a few Championship players will only serve to get us involved in a relegation battle. But can anybody see the fat man putting his hand in his pocket? Man U is 700 million in debt. We have no debt. How is it that they can afford to buy 20 million pound players and we will not pay more than a couple. You pay peanuts and you end up with a relegation battle. Just ask Burnley and Hull and the like. We have a top 20 turnover in Europe but the fat man treats us like paupers. I am not asking for 20 million pound players (NUFC will never win the league) but surely we can afford 5 million like Fulham?

  • pearceet

    Mar 21, 2010 at 6:22 PM

    Comment #6

    daffy // Mar 21, 2010 at 6:10 PM

    I never said that we didn’t need to strengthen of course we do. But we don’t want any more Owens or to be honest Martins’. The right players don’t have to be the big name players. eg Fulham they don’t have any really big name players and they are doing a damn sight better than you are. We are in the championship because we weren’t good enough last year however this year we are too good for the championship

  • daffy

    Mar 21, 2010 at 6:59 PM

    Comment #7

    Would you consider 4 points as a damn sight better?Fulham always seem to punch above their weight & credit to them but to establish yourself in the top half of the prem on a regular basis ( obvously not Safc ) Villa , Everton, Spurs you have to attract the better players who cost more & are more often on top wages but i do agree they dont allways have to be Big names.

  • DevonMag

    Mar 21, 2010 at 7:23 PM

    Comment #8

    4 points and a 4-1 victory over Juventus midweek Daffy 🙂 You’ve only just turned it round but to tbe fair, you’re definitely staying up. Which I personally think is a good thing; I can’t understand why so many toon fans want you relegated when it completely removes the possibility of a derby! Ridiculous

  • daffy

    Mar 21, 2010 at 7:29 PM

    Comment #9

    I it has been a bit weird this season having Hull City as our ” derby ” . To be honest i never really counted Boro as a derby , just another game but we are looking forward to lock horns with the auld enemy again.

  • pearceet

    Mar 21, 2010 at 8:29 PM

    Comment #10

    daffy // Mar 21, 2010 at 7:29 PM

    No, but I consider a European quarter-final a damn sight better.

    You don’t need to sign big name players in your first season back up.

    In my opinion we should sign good players but not any big name players next season. Teams need to establish themselves as a premiership team and then can start to sign the bigger names in football. That is what i would like to see and is what i am trying to get across.

  • StaffsToon

    Mar 21, 2010 at 8:33 PM

    Comment #11

    Was curious to know what the Sunderland fans make of Bruce – good manager or a Mag you have to put up with for now?

    Dead right, had our fill of big names with little return. Need a mixture of flair and honest endeavour – if we can find them, of course 😉

  • Turkish Magpie

    Mar 21, 2010 at 8:40 PM

    Comment #12

    Pearceet totally agree, we’ve all seen what most big names do at Newcastle

    Yes i think it’s essential we do buy some big players, but in one or two years time.

    We need to establish a solid team that can stay up and build on it.

    A big name is brilliant, but they cant do well if they dont have a good team backing them.

    Build a strong defence (which we mostly have) then work on a creative midfeild and then a great strike partnership (or with one striker) that scores lots of goals

    Hughton has done that brilliantly this season, however this is the Championship and we need to repeat this proccess again in the Prem with more clever buys and leave the big names to a bit later,

    What would you prefer?

    A team that has 1 or 2 briliant players who cant perform well because they dont have the backing of their players and therefore get relegated.

    Or a team with no fancy players just a solid team that stays up and does well next season?

  • pearceet

    Mar 21, 2010 at 8:57 PM

    Comment #13

    StaffsToon // Mar 21, 2010 at 8:33 PM

    Bent is an excellent example of the type of player that we should be aiming to buy after a season or two. Honest hard working and class

  • daffy

    Mar 21, 2010 at 9:10 PM

    Comment #14

    Bent is the main reason why we will be ok this season , 21 goals in an average team is tremendous .Staffstoon- Bruce has had fantastic backing from the fans , even after 14 games without a win & some awful displays no-one has given him grief . personally i think over time he will be good for us + hes a mackem now.

  • Toonmania

    Mar 21, 2010 at 9:32 PM

    Comment #15

    he was always a mackem lol!! but great to see some very constuctive and honest opinions on here,
    i can’t wait for the real derby next year i think both you and us have missed it, a season is not the same without a good derby 🙂
    personally i’m not sure about bruce i’ve always said he’s a mid table manager and he’s proving me right.

  • Adssy Mccc

    Mar 21, 2010 at 9:34 PM

    Comment #16

    It’s a tricky dilema….Do we give the likes of big Andy a chance at finding his feet in the Premier league, and if so, if it’s not happening for him, when do we say: “you’ve had your chance, now it’s back to being a player we bring off the bench to head us a late winner”

    I hope one decent season in the Championship doesn’t mean that everyone expects him to be able to do it week in and week out in the Prem….

    We do need to buy, but buy very cleverly!

  • pearceet

    Mar 21, 2010 at 9:40 PM

    Comment #17

    Adssy Mccc // Mar 21, 2010 at 9:34 PM

    I say if we have carroll loven and one other experienced premiership quality striker, we can use them as our core strike partnership depending on who we are playing if we need a nippy agile striker to get around them then play loven but if we need a physical ball winning player then play carroll. I think he should be given a chance. hes only 21 (i think) so even if he doesnt excell nest year he has time.

    And the key to our survival next year is how we fare during the transfer window

  • daffy

    Mar 21, 2010 at 9:42 PM

    Comment #18

    Fair comment but Bruce has done ok for previous clubs without the backing he is getting at Sunderland + his signings up til now for us have been fairly decent but i think he made a big mistake by not signing adam johnson in early jan.

  • roblee7

    Mar 21, 2010 at 9:52 PM

    Comment #19

    Can I just say how proud I am to see a Sunderland fan on here having constructive and very valid conversation!!! All the geordie/mackem hatred baffles me…me grandad was a sunderland fan, I’m a die hard toon fan, but I personally want good for the North East!!!

  • pearceet

    Mar 21, 2010 at 9:53 PM

    Comment #20

    daffy // Mar 21, 2010 at 9:42 PM

    Speaking of mistakes by not signing people………..

    anyone heard bout this???

  • roblee7

    Mar 21, 2010 at 9:53 PM

    Comment #21

    i do love the banter though 😉

  • Adssy Mccc

    Mar 21, 2010 at 9:55 PM

    Comment #22


    I agree. But it defo seems clear that any of the teams doing okay in the Prem have at least one of their strikers (pretty consistantly fit and in form) i.e. Zamora/Fulham etc.

    so to content with injuries which will always happen – we need at least four decent strikers who can hold their own in that league.

    Having said this, I do appreciate that prem success would not only be about our strikers!!

  • roblee7

    Mar 21, 2010 at 9:59 PM

    Comment #23

    what worries me if we go signing ANY strikers is that young lads like Ranger and Carroll get pushed out, go elsewhere, do brilliant and we end up with egg on our face, can see it now…we’ve never been great at bringing youngsters through…in the Championship we can afford to nurture them and give them time, but in the Premiership? Tough one as I think 4 to 5 games seems to make or break a player!!!Seaking of which, what does everyone make of Leon Best??? I thought he did OK at Bristol but thats all I’ve seen of him

  • Adssy Mccc

    Mar 21, 2010 at 10:03 PM

    Comment #24

    That’s the most i’ve seen of him as well. i think he’s okay, but clearly needs a goal to build his confidence. You can see his desire for it when he generated so much power on that header, which was unfortunetely tipped over the bar…..

  • greekgeordie

    Mar 22, 2010 at 7:47 AM

    Comment #25

    Well done to all in this session, a useful enjoyable exchange of ideas. When I lived in the North East as a student I was watching Newcastle at SJP on one Saturday and the next Sunderland at Roker Park. My give away to my friends was on Derby day when my true colours of Black and White were easily visible.
    Looking forward to next season local Derby but it is sad that my season ticket at SJP will not quarantee me a place at the Stadium of Light.
    As for our chances at the premier next season we have to wait and see CH is having the job for at least one season and up to now he has proved that he is capable to deliver I am sure that he will bye cleverly and strengten the squad where ever is needed. my biggest concern is loosing some players such as Colo, Jose, Jonas, Ranger and mostly Steven Taylor to the so call top six teams of the Premier.

  • bobby_ollox

    Mar 22, 2010 at 8:29 AM

    Comment #26

    The first team is good enough to hold its own in the premiership – but it is the backup for players when they go long term to the treatment room that is the problem. Does it happen more at Newcastle, or do we just notice it more.
    The difference between now and our last season is the teamwork and stability. You can have big name players as long as they are committed to play well for the club that is paying them the big wages, and contribute to harmony in the dressing room

    Hang your heads in shame, Michael Owen, Oba Martens, Charles Nzogbia


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