What Happens Now With Andy Carroll and Steven Taylor?

We are told that Mike Ashley has ordered an internal inquiry into what exactly happened last Sunday morning between Steven Taylor and Andy Carroll at the Benton training ground.

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And today it seems like it’s Steven Taylor’s cheek-bone that was damaged and not his jaw, but he will still be out for the rest of the season.

Both are local lads and both have supported Newcastle United since they were kids, and both came through the Newcastle Youth Academy successfully, and we are told in the Journal this morning that the Newcastle club will be holding contract talks with both lads in the summer.

It will be interesting to see what punishment Newcastle will give out – and when – once the results of the investigation are in.

Of course Andy is Newcastle’s top scorer with an impressive 16 goals so far this season, and is playing better than he’s ever played at Newcastle and certainly the confrontation hardly affected his form on Tuesday night, when he scored a great winner for the Magpies.

So we think it unlikely Andy will be suspended by Newcastle during the remaining five weeks of the season, because that would be shooting the club in the foot, at the worst possible time.

But Andy has to curtail his violent ways before he ends up in jail like Joey Barton did, and of course he is already charged with violent behavior in a civil suit which is now pending in the courts.

We don’t know exactly why Andy is so abusive but having therapy doesn’t hurt,  and it may be able to get to the bottom of the reasons for his violent behavior.

These two Newcastle supporters and players should be brought together in a room (I’m tempted to say with padded walls) and told to work out their differences, and even have something put into their contracts relating to their future behavior at the club.

Recent news about selling one or the other in the summer is premature and the club should try to keep both of these lads.

Not only are they budding stars in the making,  but both are England U21 Internationals, and  Newcastle United will always need local talent in the team.

So maybe a hefty fine is in order, a warning to their future conduct and something put into their new contracts in the summer that any future incidents between them will be dealt with severely.

That’s what we’d like to see happen, but whether that’s possible or not we have no idea, because we just don’t know enough about the confrontation and what exactly happened.

What do you think the club should do about this situation?

Comments always welcome.

13 comments so far

  • Newutd

    Mar 25, 2010 at 10:50 AM

    Comment #1

    Feel that you’ve summed this up really well. Agree with you on everything.

  • Geordiedoonsooth

    Mar 25, 2010 at 11:21 AM

    Comment #2

    Sack Carroll no matter how much potential he’s got. He seems to be a thug. Allegedly he has had a fight with N’Zogbia, beat up a girl, glassed a guy in a night club & now broke Taylor’s jaw. We don’t need that kind of person in the club.

  • Charlietoon

    Mar 25, 2010 at 11:40 AM

    Comment #3

    If Taylor is flackin Carrolls baby girls mama, he is asking to be thumped and dropped. What kind of person, and bearing in mind this is the guy we all slate as future captain of us and England, does that to his team mate???
    What could be more disruptive to the team spirit?

    Fine Carroll for thumping Taylor and fine Taylor for being a complete twat. Neither of them are captain material. What a shame.

    Does this remind you of anyone??

  • Sav

    Mar 25, 2010 at 11:41 AM

    Comment #4

    GDS, why don’t you stow it. Show some maturity in your judgement. Football isn’t about morality and footballers never were paragons of virtue. and the world isn’t made up of black and white issues.

  • Sav

    Mar 25, 2010 at 12:07 PM

    Comment #5

    I see Luke Edwards is trying to stir up a storm in a teacup suggesting that this spat will mean one or other could leave as contract negotiations are due for both players in the close season.

    Taylor is lionised as a local lad and club captain here where fans love to see his passion for the club reflect their own. But anywhere else and Tayls will just be another centre-half, wholehearted but not without the odd daft error.
    I’m sure he’s well aware of that.

    Carroll could be the hotter property in 6 months time if he continues in August where he left off. But that depends on his cleaning up his act off the field and continuing to work hard and listen and learn when he’s on it.

    A handshake and some respect and lessons learned and the squad could actually be all the better for this and the disparity in wages will level out through the new talks. For the fans, let’s hope they both do that as there’s nothing better than watching local lads playing for their local team.
    – There’s nowt dafter than shouting ‘howay the lads!’ at 11 blokes who don’t know what the devil you’re saying.

  • Mark-o

    Mar 25, 2010 at 12:40 PM

    Comment #6

    Sav – Spot on kid!

    Carroll has been brought up in a world where judgement and morals are all over the place. The incident in Blu Bamboo where he glassed the kid was blown out of proportions. I should know i was there! He was getting some abuse of a bunch of total spanners and when they started grbbing his missus he went mental. Fair do’s he over reacted but havent we learned from the Bowyer/Dyer/Barton/Woodgate incidents that players can move on and mature, he’s 21 for god sake.

    Geordiedownsouth – Have you not made a mistake or two? The charges for hitting that girl were dropped which probably means he either didnt do it or the lass exaggerated to get press!!

    2 weeks wages fine each, public handshake and sweep it under the carpet!

  • cgrizzly87

    Mar 25, 2010 at 1:22 PM

    Comment #7

    I agree with most comments. Knock their heads together, handshake, fine them and move on.

    My gut feeling is we shouldn’t be blowing up internal issues because the press try enough of that. Let’s try acting like grown men for once.

  • Rotonda heights

    Mar 25, 2010 at 1:39 PM

    Comment #8

    I was never Carrolls biggest fan because I always thought he would make us a route 1 team. However, some of the goals he has scored recently have been nothing short of fantastic, like the one against Scunthorpe with pace and touch.

    I guess it’s totally hypercritical to say keep Carroll when he’s playing so well, whereas Barton I couldn’t give a rat’s patudi about if we got rid the sooner the bettter.

    Both are unacceptable thugs, but one is doing the business week in week out on 10K a week, the other is never available on 60K a week.

    I know that’s not the criteria they should be judged by but Saylor has always had the stupid cocky smirking grin and I’m surprised someone didn’t smack him years ago.

  • Paul141726

    Mar 25, 2010 at 2:36 PM

    Comment #9

    I’m thinking that if both players attitudes don’t change Taylor can forget about the captain’s armband and Carroll will not wear the No. 9. But if they turn things around and show some growing maturity, both things could still happen. Here’s hoping because I think the team will need both next season.

  • Ashley Hole

    Mar 25, 2010 at 2:40 PM

    Comment #10

    Barton should beat both of them

  • Robby Bobson

    Mar 25, 2010 at 3:33 PM

    Comment #11

    “fine Taylor for being a complete twat”

    what a quote. I think you have to fine 99% of footballers if you start fining people for being a tw*t.

  • Daverism

    Mar 25, 2010 at 4:44 PM

    Comment #12

    Allegedly. Remember.

  • Philhou

    Mar 25, 2010 at 8:30 PM

    Comment #13

    Carroll hasn’t been charged with violent behaviour in a civil suit. He’s been charged with a criminal assault which on conviction at the Crown Court (where he is due to appear in April) carries a maximum of 5 years imprisonment. Usually, if someone is convicted of glassing somebody they go straight to jail, probably about 12 months.


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