Hughton To Give Fringe Players A Game On Sunday

It appears that Chris Hughton will give some fringe players a game, in our very last Championship league game at QPR on Sunday afternoon.

Tim Krul – will get first league start on Sunday

And one of those players who will get a game is 22 year-old Dutch goalkeeper Tim Krul, who will play a part against Queens Park Rangers.

Tim has found it difficult to get into the first team, as Steve Harper has had an excellent season.

Krul has had to be content with games in the Cup, plus a couple of sub appearances when Steve was injured during games in the Championship, but Tim wants to displace Steve next season, and he’s already said that a couple of times recently.

Chris Hughton told the Evening Chronicle today:

“Tim will certainly play a part.” “It is an opportunity for him, but I think out of all the youngsters he will be the only one.”

“We’ve been big enough and fit enough all season to manoeuver the squad and get through it.” “The team we play will be a team picked to win the game.”

It could also be that Steven Taylor will be given a game on Sunday afternoon, after recovering from his various injuries – we’ll leave it at that.

Chris continued and talked about wanting to get to 100 points, which we’ll achieve with a draw on Sunday – although a win would be a lot better.

Chris said:

“Like every game this season, it’s one we want to win.” “We’ve had a lot of targets.”

“And perhaps the last one of those targets is to get 100 points.” “That’s what we’ll be looking to get beyond on Sunday.”

We want to win this game on Sunday, and it would be good if our last two games in the Championship get us just a single point.

So a win would finish the season off in the right way, because after all winning is what it’s been all about this season, with 29 wins so far in our 45 games.

We also expect Joey Barton to be given another start in London.

Comments welcome.

35 comments so far

  • G

    Apr 28, 2010 at 3:51 PM

    Comment #1

    I would have given the entire first team a day off frankly, and just put the kids out there and tell them to enjoy it and not to worry about a result. The boys who have done us proud deserve an extended break, and if the kids shine, then all the better.

  • buddy

    Apr 28, 2010 at 4:02 PM

    Comment #2

    realistically is there any bloody point in havin this youth policy with a manager who wont give youth a chance…..just conflicting mind sets!!! it beggars belief why kadar/vuckic/krul havent started more games and why other youngsters havent got a few mins here and there!! are we gonna bring them through when were battling relegation???(oh no wait that was last years excuse)

  • Turkish Magpie

    Apr 28, 2010 at 4:02 PM

    Comment #3

    the result sort of matters G- it’s the difference between gettin 100 points or not

  • buddy

    Apr 28, 2010 at 4:15 PM

    Comment #4

    turkish in reality it doesnt matter a damn, who gives a crap once the games over!!
    most championship teams seem to bring through young players because its a good level to start at!! we didnt really to any great extent and i feel it will come back to haunt us in time

  • nightfa11

    Apr 28, 2010 at 4:26 PM

    Comment #5

    G – i agree…but hughton wants to make the best impression – wants to win every match..get 30 wins..etc. i mean…it’s nice that we have a manager who wants to be a record beater…but…dude…we already won the league…sit back & let our youngsters have some fun =)

  • Turkish Magpie

    Apr 28, 2010 at 4:47 PM

    Comment #6

    Youngsters that deserve to play

    Haris Vuckic
    Tamas Kadar
    Tim Krul
    Phil Airey
    Connor Newton
    Brad Innman

    any 3 from that list would do but it needs to be 3 MINIMUM!

  • bkeena00

    Apr 28, 2010 at 4:49 PM

    Comment #7

    Ok, I’m sick of hearing this nonsense all the time. The fact is, if the kids are good enough they will make the starting 11. Ther’s no point picking players when they are not the best option available. Most of the young plyers who are continually mentioned are just not ready yet. Maybe some should get loaned out to get some experience, but the manager should not be critised for instilling a winning mentality into the squad. The one thing this team has developed over this last year is the determination to fight and battle for every single point available. We have lacked this quality for so long, so in my opinion we NEED to win every game. Thats whats its all about isn’t it. People suggesting we should pick youger players and accept a defeat are admitting the younger plyers aren’t up to it yet. This club needs to learn to walk before we can run again, and keeping the results coming is whats most important.

  • Robby Bobson

    Apr 28, 2010 at 4:49 PM

    Comment #8

    Erm we have been bringing a few youngsters through…Ranger, Kadar and Vuckic was edging in before his injury and Krul has played in the cup. Donaldson has been getting a few minutes here and there as well.

    Bear in mind most youngsters end up in non-league football means not everyone is cut up for it.

    I think Hughton still has the Leyton Orient game in mind as well as the Plymouth one.

  • Rotonda heights

    Apr 28, 2010 at 5:10 PM

    Comment #9

    Should have played the youngsters as soon as we knew we were up.

    Nobody is really going to care too much about the record books. It would be different if it was the premiership, but this is a league we should never have got relegated to in the first place.

    Kadar should have played more than Hall, and Ranger more than Best who was an awful panic buy for no reason at all. Similarly Lua for Pancrate and Krul could surely have had some
    more game time.

  • Howay The Lads

    Apr 28, 2010 at 5:15 PM

    Comment #10


    Exactly. Instead of putting them out and some potentially flopping, and being offloaded, wait until they are that little bit better and can more than hold their own and then play them.
    They’ll be more desperate if they are made to wait a little longer. And if they can’t wait and they kick up a fuss, sell them (we’ve had to deal with not winning anything for 42 years, if they can’t deal with not becoming a starter at the age of 18, then they can p*** off). That just isn’t the attitude to have.

  • Bucks mag

    Apr 28, 2010 at 5:25 PM

    Comment #11

    To be fair to CH, I would like to break the 100 points barrier, so I would play a strong team for this tie.

    That said I do agree that Hughton has been too reluctant to play Youths this season.

  • buddy

    Apr 28, 2010 at 5:31 PM

    Comment #12

    ranger was givin a chance and faired very well, no worse than andy carroll pre xmass!! he was dropped at every opportunity and then best was brought in so he ceased to be givin a chance.

    then somebody elses youngster was brought in ban arnholt, which prevented our own kadar from developin( he has looked more than capable at this level) and also fitz hall was ahead of him in the pecking order which was very harsh

    krul was givin one or two games here and there ALL year, not yet had one start in the championship! the poor guy must be wondering what he has to do to feature, because man of the match performances dont seem to matter

    vuckic has yet to be givin a chance(bar i think he came on twice for about 5 mins) nor have any of our other prospects…..pancrate ahead of lua lua…if even just to give lua lua a chance…cdn be any worse

    sorry for getting on a rant, its jus somethin that has been bugging me all year! all the sentimentality shite of records etc wont do us any good when we have to throw one of them in to the deep end next year when it matters….or if they leave and become a success elsewhere

  • Howay The Lads

    Apr 28, 2010 at 5:50 PM

    Comment #13

    Sorry, but have some of you seen LuaLua play? All the other players being mentioned, I can understand, but him. He’s been given full games and come on as sub, he’s been loaned out and he has never impressed.
    He has nothing to his game other than speed and IS probably worse than Pancrate as hard as it may be to imagine


    Apr 28, 2010 at 6:06 PM

    Comment #14

    Krul definitely deserves the starting position. Although games should be about playing the best squad available Krul has always shown his form. Need I remind anyone of his world class performance during the opening match of the season against WBA?? without him we would have definitely lost that match.

    just in case you have been under a rock for the past few months.

  • Danish_Magpie

    Apr 28, 2010 at 6:06 PM

    Comment #15

    I think we should play:


    R. Taylor……S. Taylor….Williamson…Kadar



    In order to give Butt (and possibly Pancrate?) a farewell game, Smith and Best to get their 1st goal (come on already), Ranger, R. Taylor, Kadar, Krul who have not played much, S. Taylor get a game before the season ends, and Vuckic get a full debut to keep him happy. Bring on some youngsters or maybe Guthrie/Barton and Ameobi in the second half since they haven’t played TOO much football. Let Nolan, S. Harper, Carroll, Enrique, Løvenkrands, Coloccini and of course Jonas rest… they’ve played their hearts out this season.

    Can then bring on

  • Danish_Magpie

    Apr 28, 2010 at 6:07 PM

    Comment #16

    oops. delete that last line

  • Newutd

    Apr 28, 2010 at 6:18 PM

    Comment #17

    “Tim will certainly play a part.” “It is an opportunity for him, but I think out of all the youngsters he will be the only one.”

    Cooooooome on.

  • noir9

    Apr 28, 2010 at 6:29 PM

    Comment #18

    buddy @ a couple of times, vukic has been out injured for about 6 months so how was he supposed to be given a chance? Ranger had quite a few goes & couldn’t score, yes the lad looks ok but twice we went out and loaned/bought strikers so there just has to be something that CH doesn’t like. I just don’t understand why Chis is getting stick because he stuck with a winning formula, kadar & the boys time will come.

  • Newutd

    Apr 28, 2010 at 6:35 PM

    Comment #19

    Farewell games would just be silly. Using our promising (?? Hughton sure is unwilling to play them) youngsters though…

    And to the guy saying Hughton will play them when they’re good enough…
    Kadar got picked to play for the Hungary national team some years ago. Nile Ranger has 6 goals in 12 matches for the english u19 side. Haris Vuckic may be picked for the Slovenian national team. Brad Inman won the “Wor Jackie” award which was previously won by Alan Shearer, Peter Beardsley and Steven Taylor. He has also picked up some Scotland u19 games.

    I feel it’s more that he so desperately wants the win (which is good, but we’ve already won the league.. ) that he plays it safe.

  • Newutd

    Apr 28, 2010 at 6:44 PM

    Comment #20

    Forget Nile, who ofcoure is injured..

  • buddy

    Apr 28, 2010 at 6:49 PM

    Comment #21

    andy carroll hardly scored before xmass…..leon best hasnt scored yet…..ranger played excellent in quite a number of games, and was one of our most effective players pre xmass
    you cant just assume hughton will give them a chance when they are ready,there is nothing there to say he will! there is however some indications that he wont! their chances will most likely be as limited nxt season as they were this,cant see him changing policy if we are struggling to stay up

  • Howay The Lads

    Apr 28, 2010 at 7:03 PM

    Comment #22

    Just because they won the award doesn’t mean they will make it big, nor does it mean they will be ready for first team football the next season. I wish they all were, but from what I’ve seen, a few could do with a season in the Championship and another year of muscle building under their belts.

    As you say, Ranger has scored 6 in 12 at under-19 level, but couldn’t get a sniff in – even after 6 or 7 full games – at Championship level.
    Let’s not forget, under-18 or 19 football is similar to playing at League 1 level. Think how many of the first-teamers they play against will make it in the Championship, never mind the Premiership. They would have to really stand out (like Vuckic has, apparently, done).

  • Newutd

    Apr 28, 2010 at 7:14 PM

    Comment #23

    I didn’t say that HTL. But it definitely shows he has potential. And too relish that potential, he needs to play.

    Even though Nile couldn’t score, he showed some real talent, especially in the air and when holding the ball. With more games he could be a real class player.

  • Howay The Lads

    Apr 28, 2010 at 7:24 PM

    Comment #24

    Yeah, I think Hughton has been harsh on Ranger. He will be a class player, whereas, Best won’t.
    I am more annoyed at Hughton for buying Best and loaning Zuarb/Hall instead of playing some young players. But I don’t care whether they get one game at the end of this season as long as they get a full season on loan or have a bigger part to play next season

  • geordielad880

    Apr 28, 2010 at 7:34 PM

    Comment #25

    you think hughton is been harsh on ranger, the lad has turned up half cut for training more than once, and has been late several times aswell, his attitude stinks, and is on his final warning

  • Newutd

    Apr 28, 2010 at 7:35 PM

    Comment #26

    Agree with that. Still, it’s annoying when you we can play them, and they are under “no” pressure to deliver. I think they could’ve really proved their talents.

  • Howay The Lads

    Apr 28, 2010 at 7:35 PM

    Comment #27

    How do you know? It wouldn’t happen to be a ‘source’, would it?

  • geordielad880

    Apr 28, 2010 at 7:42 PM

    Comment #28

    it has been well documented, he has been moved away from the bright lights because of his late nights on the town, and his time keeping was mentioned the other day, as hughton tore a piece of him for turning up for training late again

  • geordielad880

    Apr 28, 2010 at 7:43 PM

    Comment #29

    no smoke without fire, hence him not been in the squad for a good while, fair enough he has been carrying an ankle injury for the last 10 days or so, but he was deliberately left out of the other squads

  • Howay The Lads

    Apr 28, 2010 at 7:54 PM

    Comment #30

    So you are putting 2 & 2 together and, possibly, getting 5.

    People just pile lies together and run with them, it’s how the press work. Think about the Carroll-Taylor incident. There were about 5 different reasons why he hit him (if he even did hit him). How interesting the story is, is the only reason the press run with it. Taylor sending texts to Carroll’s girl was the best rumour and therefore the most publicised. If there was a rumour that Taylor had raped Carroll’s girl, they would have run with that.
    It is exactly the same with Ranger. The whole ‘he likes to party’ is the best rumour and, therefore, the one the press/public run with

  • geordielad880

    Apr 28, 2010 at 8:03 PM

    Comment #31

    Well he has been moved to cullercoats to live, so id imagine thats its got something to do with the late nights, but like you say it could all be rubbish, just strange how he aint in the squad, never mind the team, i personally dont think he is good enough, is will be a championship player at best, has a good touch and strength, but thats it really, if newcastle are not going to play him, they should loan him out to scunthorpe, they have a good record of improving your players, or southampton, he needs to be given a chance of first team football

  • Turkish Magpie

    Apr 28, 2010 at 8:49 PM

    Comment #32

    Lads- for those who donty know, Rangers injured ;D

  • Rodzilla

    Apr 28, 2010 at 10:52 PM

    Comment #33

    …we have some great fringe players, I reckon we have just as many quality centre-partings and crew-cuts though.

    …glad big Andy sacked his Snoop-cut anyway.

  • seanp

    Apr 29, 2010 at 10:57 AM

    Comment #34

    Geordielad880 – Agree that Ranger being loaned out for next season is a good idea – but can’t see it being Southampton – they let him go in the first place! After the welcome we got at Plymouth why not see if Paul Mariner can help his development!

  • stk85

    Apr 29, 2010 at 4:41 PM

    Comment #35

    we gotta give krul more of a chance. the lad excelled 4 years ago against palermo and has hardly got a sniff since. he should’ve been given at least 5 games a season since he arrived in the cups and against lesser teams. if man u and arsenal can do it, we can. lets face it, we’ll end up losing either krul or forster which will be a crying shame.

    kadar has been in various hungary sides for a while, and whilst paddy van aanholt and hall have done their jobs and looked good, i feel for the lad having his opportunities limited.

    vuckic will break thru before too long. nolan, smith, guthri, barton, vuckic, possibly inman and possibly cabaye if he arrives will surely be too much competition, at least one will move on.

    r taylor williamson s taylor kadar
    routledge vuckic smith barton

    thats who’d i’d play on sunday. 3 best younsters need to play at this level coz they defo wont be chucked in the deep end at prem level. not by hughton who’s preferd these loan signings over putting faith in the clubs youth


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