Newcastle Lose Out On Milner – When Will They Ever Learn?

We thought Newcastle would learn their lessons from past mistakes, but we guess not.

James Milner – no sell-on clause

James Milner was at Newcastle for four years and was finally
transferred to Aston Villa for £12M in August of 2008, against the wishes of then manager Kevin Keegan.

And that was probably the first thing that indicated to Keegan he was not in charge of player personnel on Tyneside.

And then Xisco and Gutierrez were brought in on the last say of the transfer window without Kevin’s knowledge by Dennis Wise, and that was the final straw, and the manager resigned or was sacked – whichever story you want to believe.

And as seems to happen fairly often, Milner suddenly became a good player once he left Newcastle, and is in the England squad for the World Cup in South Africa, and is even said to be a favorite of manager Fabio Capello.

He’s certainly played very well indeed these last two seasons, but of course he was also a very good player at Newcastle, and he’s a terrific young professional.

Aston Villa have had a £20M bid turned down from Manchester City for Milner only this week, and therefore you wonder if the Newcastle club had the wisdom to put a sell-on clause in Milner’s transfer deal with Aston Villa less than two years ago.

The Newcastle Journal is reporting today that Newcastle did not put a sell-on clause in Milner’s transfer deal, and therefore Newcastle will get no money at all if the player is transferred for almost twice the money Newcastle received for the player, less than two years ago.

There must be some duds running the Newcastle club if this news is true, that’s for sure. And when you think back as to who was responsible for the transfer deals in those day, it was probably Dennis Wise.

Well, he’s already been sacked by the Newcastle club and good job too.

When will they ever learn?

Comments welcome.

20 comments so far

  • Ericles

    May 21, 2010 at 10:43 AM

    Comment #1

    It shows just what a bunch of spivs and cowboys were running NUFC. They lost us KK and the respect of the football world. Eventually they cost us our premiership place.

  • Matthew Tom

    May 21, 2010 at 10:56 AM

    Comment #2

    This is just nonsense – we got the price increased from £8m to £12m and Villa agreed to that, on the basis of not having a sell-on clause. If he’s sold for £20m this summer, we’d have needed a sell on clause of 20% or higher to make more than the extra £4m we secured up front and there’s no way we’d have got more than 20%.

    Seems quite a decent bit of negotiation if you ask me. Still completely wrong to sell Milner in the first place, of course, but there you go.

  • hitman

    May 21, 2010 at 10:58 AM

    Comment #3

    agree matthew,we got a good price for milner

  • sirjasontoon

    May 21, 2010 at 10:59 AM

    Comment #4

    Can’t blame Wise for this, £12 was an excellent price for Milner at the time…I think the general consensus on .org this morning is Wise got a good price at the time.

    P.S If you are reading this Mr.Wise…I think you are a Piggy Eyed Tw@t !

  • Ericles

    May 21, 2010 at 11:05 AM

    Comment #5

    I also think that Milner went at a good price. I am not all that impressed by him still. As for what some want him for now then that is daft. I just simply do not see with him what others do. Whatever – the fact that KK was treated badly in the affair is still unacceptable.

  • Charlietoon

    May 21, 2010 at 11:07 AM

    Comment #6

    I’m going to repeat what I said on another blog I hope you dont mind ed

    A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush and there was no way of knowing Milner would impress so much. It would have been nice to squeak a few more mill out of it but what is the standard percentage you get for a sell on anyway as I am not sure?

    BUT If we took 8 mill and 20% sell and Man C pay 25 mill for him that would be a 17 mill profit for Villa. Unless the sell on is roughly 23% we would not have made the extra 4 mill we got for him and I cant imagine the sell on % is much more than that so we have certainly not missed out on much if anything.

  • lesh

    May 21, 2010 at 11:09 AM

    Comment #7

    What’s the problem with getting £12m for the lad. How can we be sure that a ‘sell-on’ clause was never on the table? Methinks we presume too much?

    But when will they ever learn….. it’s a slow process and I’d imagine MA’d be keen to maximise any return on player sales.

    Perhaps we should be thinking of the positives and stop dragging up the negatives of the past?

  • boater

    May 21, 2010 at 11:16 AM

    Comment #8

    Ed – I think that’s xisco and nacho gonzalez you are referring to. Guti wasn’t brought in on the last day.

    Ericles – Wise was a prat, but then keegan is a quitter, a flake and a drama queen. So let go of the past and move on.

  • macn0ble (Finland)

    May 21, 2010 at 11:21 AM

    Comment #9

    LOL, the only one losing something is Citeh if they pay 20+ mil for Milner.


    The guy looks like a Olympic wrestler, but cannot bypass a granny. Over hyped, over prized, like most of the English players.

  • komfort

    May 21, 2010 at 11:38 AM

    Comment #10

    milner in our team or £12 million never to see the light of day again.

    …..good deal my arse.

  • fongct

    May 21, 2010 at 12:05 PM

    Comment #11

    It is hard to insert a sell on clause if we sell a player for 12M

    but like it or not, this is the worst transfer we have ever had in our history book…yes, that not Boumsong and Luque or who so ever

    we lost 8M straight now…plus we went down with one point, with Milner or a proper replacement on our side, I m 100% certain that we could get 3 more points that could save us in PL….so that cost us 30M+ for not being in championship….with King Kev on our side, who knows where we will finish?…and we didnt need to compensate King Kev as well….that cost us a few millions

    oh dont forget the loss on the so called Milner replacement, Xisco that cost us 5.7M

    the total is 45M plus….

    whoever think that is a good deal for selling Milner, I have to say this is the most stupid and worst transfer in our history book

    PS I m not a milner fan, but I would never think it is a good deal if we dont get a proper replacement…

    of course we cant spend much this season now, while Ashley has wasted us 45M+ already

  • Hugh G Hampton

    May 21, 2010 at 12:12 PM

    Comment #12

    “we got the price increased from £8m to £12m and Villa agreed to that, on the basis of not having a sell-on clause. ”


    As usual the owner has gone off on an ill informed rant prbably based on the fact that he “borrowed” this story from another site..

  • Widowmaker

    May 21, 2010 at 1:35 PM

    Comment #13

    We did a good deal but a bad move.

  • Markaccus

    May 21, 2010 at 1:44 PM

    Comment #14

    has been clearly documented that this was wises fault, so the title of this article including the “will they ever learn” bit was unwarranted ed. Ok, we still are not the best run club ever (understatement!) but this season has shown more sense than the previous several seasons, and we seem to be carrying it on into next year. The fact is i think even Fatly HAS learned lessons through all of it.

  • Markaccus

    May 21, 2010 at 1:45 PM

    Comment #15

    lets not dwell on the wobbly eyed, nookie bear lookalike mo fo’s total lack of morals and be positive about the future

  • cupiddstunt

    May 21, 2010 at 5:33 PM

    Comment #16

    Get one thing straight fongct MA owns the club so MA cost MA money and I am pretty sure MA is quite aware of that now.

    In looking at his business track record it does not appear that he makes the same mistakes more than once very often so the future is looking bright.

    As for the comment from “small penis” (Such an egotistical nick name, in Freudian terms it indicates a lack off or a wish to be.)
    To quote
    “As usual the owner has gone off on an ill informed rant prbably based on the fact that he “borrowed” this story from another site..” end quote

    If you think so little of the blog owner why do you frequent the site so often?

  • yuwing

    May 21, 2010 at 6:25 PM

    Comment #17


    just down with luck, at first place, mike ashley shouldn’t have come to our club. he is the troublemaker!

  • geordieal

    May 22, 2010 at 2:14 AM

    Comment #18

    Why are we going on about a sell on clause with milner? Is that what we are becoming? Dependant on other clubs getting a good price for our former players, damn, we should have put a sell on clause on andy cole. 12 million was a good price for milner, at the time he wasn’t worth 8, we got it. Him being sold now is something for villa fans to worry about, not for us Newcastle fans to wonder what could have been. Ed, talk sense, not sh@&e.

  • Sav

    May 22, 2010 at 3:44 AM

    Comment #19

    Could be worse – imagine how Leeds fans feel about it.
    But Komfort is right. 12 million might be a fair price at the time but would we rather have a talented, hard-working versatile youngster or £12 million which never again saw the light of day?

    It also cost us Keegan and a potential revival until Wise stuffed it up.
    And Milner inconsistent? He always , always gave 100%, always ran until the last whistle and always tried his best to get forward and hurt the opposition. He was never a footballing genius but ‘inconsistent’ is not the word to describe him. His effort and willingness were and still are his biggest strengths.

  • ToOn_26

    May 22, 2010 at 8:04 AM

    Comment #20

    Still not rate him at all, glad we got rid of him.


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