Chris Hughton After Some Top Youngsters For Newcastle


If we are to believe the latest news on who Chris Hughton may be after, he has lined up some top youngsters for Newcastle next season.

Jack Wilshere – Newcastle loan target

Good news yesterday was that Chris Hughton for the first time said he was interested in bringing young players like Jack Wishere, Arsenal’s 18 year-old future star,  to Newcastle on loan next season.

And we have to think that Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger would want to loan out his player to Newcastle, where he would be playing in front of 50,000 home crowds and get some great experience on Tyneside

Other youngsters Newcastle are said to be interested in are 20 year-old Tom Cleverley and 19 year-old Danny Welbeck of Manchester United, and 23 year-old defender  Nedum Onouha of Manchester City.

These could all be loan signings for Newcastle, although we would think Manchester City may want to transfer Nedum, since it looks like he doesn’t have any real future at the Eastlands club.

The reports are that Eastlands manager Roberto Mancini will have up to £150M to spend on new players this summer – which we find completely ridiculous.

But given players like Wilshere, Welbeck, Cleverley and Onouha, any one of these would be exciting signings for the Newcastle club, and would add some considerable flair to the Newcastle squad, which is what we want to see.

We have to hope Newcastle will be successful in enticing some of these top youngsters to Tyneside.  Fingers crossed.

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42 comments so far

  • Ericles

    May 24, 2010 at 2:34 PM

    Comment #1

    Wilshire – it says it all. Arsenal’s FUTURE star not NUFC’s. The same for Cleverley and Welbeck – Man U’s FUTURE stars not NUFC’s. We must give a chance to our own youngsters first before we start nurturing Ferguson’s or Wenger’s reserves. If we have loan players they must have a maturity and experience to cope with the Premiership. Is CH going to be our manager or not or is he going to be a proxy coach for Man U and Arsenal!

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  • Ericles

    May 24, 2010 at 2:43 PM

    Comment #2

    Another point is our supposedly loaning out Forster (a good idea) plus others to other clubs (e.g., Ranger and LuaLua). In other words our players get loaned out from a Premiership club to get experience in lower leagues while Man U and Arsenal loanees arrive to get experience at a Premiership club – i.e. NUFC! Are we being seen by some big boys as a nursery club? A second string Premiership outfit for the benefit of the megamillionare towb 4 or 5? No way – lets get on with our own future and realise that North London and Manchester Picadilly are not on Tyneside.

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  • G

    May 24, 2010 at 2:48 PM

    Comment #3

    Or we could just accept the fact that we need depth in quality, and we simply do not have the quality or the resources to buy it to sustain our premier existence?

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  • Toon Sweden77

    May 24, 2010 at 2:48 PM

    Comment #4

    Cant see the point with educate others clubs youngsters when we have our own??

    If we are going to loan a player, make it a experienced player who can help us climb the table.

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  • Craigg

    May 24, 2010 at 2:48 PM

    Comment #5

    I would take Cleverley, Wilshire and Onouha in a heartbeat.

    Welbeck isnt any better than Carroll, Ranger or Loven and we need far better than him to improve our squad.

    We should get Beattie (Sod his age), Guaranteed 15 goals a season barring injuries and managerial bust ups and available for just £2m, The same ammount we paid for Best.

    P.S Which could be raised by the sale of Xisco, Shola and Best.

    Also target Joe Ledley who can play in the middle and wide left and can give us much needed cover at LB.

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  • sirjasontoon

    May 24, 2010 at 2:51 PM

    Comment #6

    Totally Agree Ericles….I am all for taking a player on loan with a buy option at the end but training Arsenal and Man United just makes us look totally cheap.

    I can get excited about these types of signings it really is humiliating to have stooped so low under this regime.

    How will our youngsters ever get the development they need at the highest level if we are spending all our time grooming other clubs players?

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  • sirjasontoon

    May 24, 2010 at 2:52 PM

    Comment #7

    CraigG Houghton will not have a bad word said against Best he will probably start the season with number 9 on his shirt the way CH is talking.

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  • Newutd

    May 24, 2010 at 2:52 PM

    Comment #8

    Can anyone seriously see Welbeck improving our side? He is shite.

    As for the others:

    I remain certain that Cleverley is going to stay with Man Utd this season.

    Wilshere – very good talent, of course, but I don’t want us to make stars for other teams. We have no chance of signing him on a later stage so “no” for me.

    Onouha – Good player. Tbh though, we should first of all spend our money (if available) on a right back, a winger and a striker.

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  • Ericles

    May 24, 2010 at 3:05 PM

    Comment #9

    Newutd has a good point. We do need another winger (preferably one with two feet). Now Cardiff are staying down Ledley may be a good bet for his left versatality.

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  • Craigg

    May 24, 2010 at 3:11 PM

    Comment #10

    sirjasontoon

    I think CH is trying to keep Bests morale up, Hughton must know that hes shot himself in the foot by spending £2m that could have helped in this window.
    (More so with the fat controllers transfer budget) .

    I personally thought that Ranger was doing a fine job until january, Loven and Carroll hit form, Nolan scored plenty playing off the front man and Shola got fit not long after.

    Best wasnt needed then and we dont need him now, Wouldnt it have made sense if we had tried to sign lads who couldnt get a kick in the top flight like Dave Kitson, Kanu or Robbie Blake on loan until the end of the season instead of the £2m we wasted on Best.

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  • sirjasontoon

    May 24, 2010 at 3:33 PM

    Comment #11

    Best will prove a shocking buy….average fizzy pop striker same with Shola…both will be plop next season and won’t get a sniff on goal.

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  • Tom Mo.

    May 24, 2010 at 3:34 PM

    Comment #12

    8m price tag apparently on Ohara, what a joke

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  • Craigg

    May 24, 2010 at 3:44 PM

    Comment #13

    What do you mean “will prove a shocking buy” i think your being unfair to the lad, He proved that early on

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  • G

    May 24, 2010 at 3:52 PM

    Comment #14

    Best has done everything right apart from score, his movement and positioning is good, he grafts for the cause, he doesn’t flinch the challenge. I really don’t understand why everybody is against him. Give him some time to gel, and he might just prove to be an astute buy, if not, I am sure we will get some takers in Jan.

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  • WLtoon

    May 24, 2010 at 3:59 PM

    Comment #15

    Craigg
    i agree with Cleverley,Wiltshire and Onouha,but what little money CH might have i think he should spend it on someone other than Beattie. His head is up his arse,and nearly always injured,too old and its been a long time since he could GUARENTEE 15 goals in the prem.

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  • Newutd

    May 24, 2010 at 4:01 PM

    Comment #16

    G –

    To say that Best has done evertyhing right apart from scoring, is out of this world. His overall game has been really poor. His touch and football smartness isn’t there at all.

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  • G

    May 24, 2010 at 4:09 PM

    Comment #17

    Newutd – 13 appearances (7 of them as sub), no goals, but 14 shots on goal, 7 of them on target (bleeding keepers / woodwork), and a 57% pass completion ratio (the average in the CCC for an outfield player is 43%). That doesn’t sound like a bad touch for a big lad, or a lack of football smartness I think. Th stats are from a yank site, but then again, so is Ed’s blog.

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  • G

    May 24, 2010 at 4:13 PM

    Comment #18

    I forgot to mention the 2 confirmed assists too.

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  • toonpigeon

    May 24, 2010 at 4:21 PM

    Comment #19

    I think we don’t really need Cleverley or Wellbeck as I don’t see them having a huge impact on our team. With Wilshere I think we should definetley get him, I like his style of play and the attitude he has had for going out on loan to different clubs to gain experience.

    I don’t think we will get O’Hara unless Grant isn’t confirmed as West Ham manager. I think he would be good but with all his recent injury problems doe we really need him? I would like to see Ledley come to us, he is cracking player and now that Cardiff are still in the championship I think we will be able to prize him away.

    In response to the comment you have made G, I agree with you that I always see Best put the effort in and go close. He just hasn’t had his first goal to give him more confidence. I say we give him a chance to prove himself and then we go from there.

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  • G

    May 24, 2010 at 4:29 PM

    Comment #20

    Cheers toonpidgeon, sorry about the rant, it just distresses me that our fans just want to slag off our own players, who have grafted bloody hard to get us back up here, and yet all we do is slate them as not good enough and destroy their confidence. Its stupidity imo. Anway, rant over, not sure about wellbeck or cleverly tbh, but I would agree that we should deffo go for ledley.

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  • Howay The Lads

    May 24, 2010 at 4:29 PM

    Comment #21

    Best’s an alright player out wide – or rather he can cross a ball really well, but other than that he has done nothing. Lots of running but nothing else. It’s a shame as I’d like him to do well.

    As for Welbeck, I’m sure Hughton knows how awful he is and wouldn’t go anywhere near him. The others are all alright though 😀

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  • Newutd

    May 24, 2010 at 4:31 PM

    Comment #22

    G –

    How does football smartness and his touch have anything to do with those statistics you’re writing?

    Anyway, i’m not impressed by the amount of shots. Guess it’s good that he has a better than average passing success, but a lot of those may well be short support passes.

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  • Howay The Lads

    May 24, 2010 at 4:32 PM

    Comment #23

    Also why aren’t we going for Skjelbred, I’m sure he’d only cost £2 million and he’s a Toon fan. I’ve not heard much on him lately

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  • Newutd

    May 24, 2010 at 4:35 PM

    Comment #24

    The reason why you haven’t heard a lot about him, HTL, is that he really hasn’t been that impressing of late. He hasn’t really had the development everybody hoped for and thought he’d have.

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  • Craigg

    May 24, 2010 at 4:37 PM

    Comment #25

    WLtoon

    Alright maybe i exaggerated a bit on the 15 goals a season but i do think he would give us a real threat that Shola and Best wouldnt and i dont think his age is an issue because he couldnt run at 22.

    His goals single handedly kept Stoke up a couple of years ago and i think Pulis is taking a risk by selling him over a pointless row over crimbo parties.

    Him and Carroll could be a bit like Shearer and Ferguson a few years back with their heading ability and hold up play with Lovenkrands being like Kevin Gallacher as the pacey alternative.

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  • G

    May 24, 2010 at 4:40 PM

    Comment #26

    The pass completion ratio would be evidence of a better than average touch, whilst football smartness (I would call it a footballing brain personally?) would be his positional sense, which to me there hasn’t been much wrong with (7 shots on target, and 2 assists). Like I said earlier though, rant over from my perspective, I really cant be chewed with an argument. All I am trying to say, is get behind our players, stop bad-mouthing them. Leon Best is our player, he cost bobbins, isnt on a massive contract, and contrary to popular belief, is not a bad player. Give him a chance. If you only want overpaid prima donna footballers then perhaps the toon isnt the team for you?

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  • Ericles

    May 24, 2010 at 4:45 PM

    Comment #27

    G has a point. I still want to see our players given every chance to contribute next season. They should have priority over loanees. We do need some quality freebies though. At present it is being said who is going OUT on loan but nothing about who may be coming IN. I hope CH does not arrange loan outs and then all goes tits up with who he wants to get in. The transfer market can be like that. CH plays his cards close to his heart whereas Ashley keeps his wallet there.

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  • Craigg

    May 24, 2010 at 4:49 PM

    Comment #28

    G

    I dont want prima donnas but i would like a striker who i actually think looks anything like talented, I dont see what he has shown that Nile Ranger did in the first half of the season.

    Ranger didnt score for ages but his hold up play was terrific, He created a few goals, good heading ability and was an obvious threat.

    Both his goals were tap ins but Best had two identical chances in succesive games against Preston and Coventry that he fluffed and luckily Ryan Taylor was behind him to score.

    It hardly say a lot for Best that a (unfairly maligned) full back shows more composure than an international striker in front of goal.

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  • Newutd

    May 24, 2010 at 4:50 PM

    Comment #29

    G –

    Pass completion ratio isn’t necessarily evidence of anything.

    His positional sense has been bad, there really cant be said anything else than that. 7 shots is not much at all.

    I see your point though.

    Where have I though said I want overpaid prima donna players? To critize a player because he has been bad, has nothing to do with that.

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  • G

    May 24, 2010 at 4:57 PM

    Comment #30

    Sorry Newutd, the prima donna players jibe was not directed to you personally, but quite a few threads on the blog the general consensus is that we are demanding proven prem firepower, which frankly, we can ill afford. I still stand by my comments about Best being better than he is given credit for. Craig, your comments about Nile Ranger are warranted indeed, his work rate and hold up play was phenominal early in the season, however, the staff at SJP still feel he isn’t ready for the top flight and imply that he will go out on loan for a season. I don’t think thats a bad thing at all.

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  • toonpigeon

    May 24, 2010 at 5:01 PM

    Comment #31

    That’s ok G , I agree with HTL when he says Best is a good crosser of the ball. If Hughton sees that he is a good crosser then maybe Hughton will develop him into a different position. He may not be the best(no pun intended) but we need to give him a chance and some of our homegrown talents.

    I don’t see the point in getting Wellbeck as he didn’t much since he went to Preston. Over than that I have no idea who else we are going for, of course I know we are after Ledley but Hughton has neither confirmed or denied this so I think there is a strong case for Hughton getting him as throughout the January transfer window he worked very quietly on getting transfers done.

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  • Craigg

    May 24, 2010 at 5:12 PM

    Comment #32

    G

    Im not against Ranger going out on loan.

    Im worried that we dont possess enough quality up front to trouble top flight sides and Bests has done nowt to boost my confidence.

    As ive said for weeks and will continue to say until a club with some sense West Brom, Bolton or Fat Sams lot pays the ridiculously low £2m asking price for James Beattie, That we should get the lad who could be the difference.

    If we have to sell Best and others to buy him or another quality striker then i think we should do it.

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  • cupiddstunt

    May 24, 2010 at 6:57 PM

    Comment #33

    Have to agree with “G” at # 17 Best has done just about everything right but put the ball in the net, has rattled the woodwork a couple of times and but for a couple of inches would be on the score sheet.

    He has a good work rate and has looked quite sharp I think just needs some full games to read his team mates a little better and he will be off and running.

    But then again there is no pleasing some of the visitors to this blog

    Have any of you Ranger fans thought that it may be something to do with the players performances outside the 90 min game time window where we get to watch them, that is the deciding factor.

    Nile had a couple of good performances it went to his head and he started to behave like a knob if all the reports are to be believed, so maybe CH thinks he needs to be held back for his own good.

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  • MacToon

    May 24, 2010 at 7:30 PM

    Comment #34

    What a joke, £150 mill for citeh to spend and we won’t even have a tenth of that by the looks of it.

    On top of that we are linked with giving other prem teams youngsters a chance of getting some experience ! at the expence of our youngsters!!

    Unbelievable

    As for Best, his touch was terrible at times although he did seem to settle more after a while here but he struggled to score in the fizzy….. it isn’t going to be any easier in the prem.

    Sick of all this bo££1cks about under 25 year olds, we need experience and youth throughout the team/squad, doesn’t matter what age they are aslong as they can perform and do a job but not if they are just here for the money.

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  • Rotonda heights

    May 24, 2010 at 7:59 PM

    Comment #35

    G
    I think most people feel that Ranger was doing a better than Ok job. Ranger was superb at holding up the playa and had a bit of pace and a great touch as well. and that the money spent on Best to do exactly the same job was a waste.

    That 2m could have gone on Moses who wil turn out to be a hell of player, sadly not like Best who has no star quality or real potential.

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  • Rotonda heights

    May 24, 2010 at 8:01 PM

    Comment #36

    I would like some youth in terms of pace and flair, but it should be our own, ie Vuksic etc, or otherwise what’s the point ?

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  • Captain Beefheart

    May 24, 2010 at 11:03 PM

    Comment #37

    CH always starts with the strongest XI, it is up to youth players to quit the clubbing and make sure they are in that select number – simple!

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  • Newutd

    May 24, 2010 at 11:25 PM

    Comment #38

    CB –

    He picked the safest line up. We could well develop our younger much more talented players to make them even better.

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  • Newutd

    May 24, 2010 at 11:25 PM

    Comment #39

    We could well play*

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  • NO F IN KINNEAR

    May 24, 2010 at 11:46 PM

    Comment #40

    sirjasontoon // May 24, 2010 at 2:51 PM

    Totally Agree Ericles….I am all for taking a player on loan with a buy option at the end but training Arsenal and Man United just makes us look totally cheap.

    I can get excited about these types of signings it really is humiliating to have stooped so low under this regime.

    How will our youngsters ever get the development they need at the highest level if we are spending all our time grooming other clubs players?

    You make it sound as if this is the first time we will have called on man utd or asenal players on loan. why do our fans always have short memories ?

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