Newcastle Fans To See More Of 17 Year-Old Haris Vuckic

17 year-old Haris Vuckic will be in the first team squad for next season and Newcastle manager Chris Hughton says the fans should expect to see more of him next season in the Premiership.

Haris Vuckic – 17 year-old Slovenian – big chance next season

Hughton told the Evening  Chronicle today:

“Haris has trained with the first team and will do so again next season – we’ll be seeing more of him."

“Then you have a batch of players who were successful in the FA Youth Cup and are now part of what we call the development squad – the link between the Academy and first team.”

“They’ll be based with us at the first-team base.” “We value them very highly, but do I see them coming into the first team soon?”

“That will be up to them.” “They have been told the door is ajar and it can be pushed open.” “They’ve got a good future ahead of them but we need experience and quality.”

“But as I say, it’s up them.” “Realistically one or two of them might get their chance but they all know that they can push their way into the side.”

With Newcastle concentrating a lot more on youth development every summer, we’ll see some new youngsters introduced either into the development squad, or into the first team squad proper.

But we also expect Newcastle to continue to take in two youngsters from the top English clubs, for season-long loan deals.

That sets up Newcastle to be a possible future club for those youngsters, should they not make it at their parent clubs, and serves a number of good purposes for Newcastle – like getting a top young player playing for them.

And Newcastle will continue to loan out some of their best young players to other clubs, in order for them to get first team experience, in their development process, as they learn their trade.

Comments welcome.

69 comments so far

  • Toon Sweden77

    Jul 12, 2010 at 12:56 PM

    Comment #1

    Cant see the good in loaning out our own promising youngsters to lower league clubs and then go borrow other clubs youngsters and give them valueble premierleague-experience.

    But thats just my thoughts..

  • MacToon

    Jul 12, 2010 at 1:02 PM

    Comment #2

    Playing in the league and 2 cup competitions will hopefully give the likes of Vuckic some game time this season and our keepers.

    I agree about loan signings, they should be unneccesary while we are in the prem!

    Rumours around are that Leeds think they have Jack Wilshere on a season long loan anyway.

  • yskel

    Jul 12, 2010 at 1:17 PM

    Comment #3

    @Toon Sweden77/Mactoon

    I disagree, every players development is different, they develop at differing rates. It could profoundly hurt a young player to be pushed into the deep end too soon.

    Players with an obvious high level of ability will stay and play. Others who have a bit more learning to do will be loaned out to a lower division club and be better for the experience.

    There are both short term and long term goals to look at. If we do take on a young star from the likes of arsenal, united, chelsea and help their development then we should not view that as helping an enemy, more that we are gaining a player that can help us stay up next season.

    Plus if the experience is a totally positive one and the player does well at SJP then a more afterwards maybe forthcoming. As the player may not be prepared to go back to the bench at these bigger clubs.

    I think it would do well for newcastle to build good relationships with united/arsenal/chelsea at this stage of our team development. As for all of our bravado we are at least 4 seasons (probably more) from being in a position to challenge these established forces again. Why not be realistic about it? why no use every weapon at our disposal to get us there quicker?

    Smart management from Hughton, The loans then full transfer has been a successful ploy for Bolton (Gary Cahill), Everton (Louis Saha) and a few others. It would be silly not to take advantage when the teams we are currently competing with will do the same.

    We must forget our ego and do whats right for now, but with a good eye on the future.

  • MacToon

    Jul 12, 2010 at 1:40 PM

    Comment #4

    Couldn’t disagree more tbh, if we loan players with a view to buy then ok, otherwise I cannot see the point.

    IF we get another winger and a striker then I cannot see many spaces in the first team to blood youngsters for other teams.

    Ashley seems to be trying to run the club on the cheap and again gambling with our premiership status however the news we have made bids for players, £5 m plus, gives me hope he’s just playing his cards close to his chest.

    Yet again we’ll just have to wait and see.

  • Phil K

    Jul 12, 2010 at 1:46 PM

    Comment #5

    Short termism is what loans are. You’re bringing in other teams players to get their mistakes out of their sytems playing for YOU and when they’ve polished up their act, they’re away back.
    Good to fill the gaps, though.

  • JSYproject

    Jul 12, 2010 at 1:52 PM

    Comment #6

    YSKEL – spot on mate 100%.

    People like mactoon seem to care more about stickin it to ferguson etc rather than caring about actually staying afloat next season.

    Obv if our players were ready we would play them.. Why do you think they will be going to lower league sides? Because they aint good enough yet for the prem.

  • yskel

    Jul 12, 2010 at 1:56 PM

    Comment #7

    IMO all loans are with a view to buy. Your getting a chance to build a relationship with a player. If he enjoys himself and his football at newcastle there is every chance he end up wanting to sign. Player power is pretty much all in this day and age of football.

    P.S. if you think running Newcastle is cheap, you must not have been reading our financial records or how much money Ashley put in to keep us afloat last year.

    He’s not got money of the same nature as city’s owners, nor ibramovich and the debt in our club is all owed to him. Man is a saviour that gets nothing but abuse for fixing the mess fat fred put us in

  • Davies

    Jul 12, 2010 at 1:56 PM

    Comment #8

    Don’t care at the moment. Get ’em in and get ’em playing. Whatever works to ensure survival next season works for me. Stop moaning. We haven’t kicked a ball yet.

  • Ericles

    Jul 12, 2010 at 1:56 PM

    Comment #9

    Loans from clubs such as Man U or Arsenal etc could be a rod for our own backs eventually. On approval with an option to buy maybe but we must not become a nursery team for so-called “big” clubs. Since when have these “big” boys come knocking on CH’s door to loan our promising players so they can gain experience in the Champions League? Lets grow our own and leave digging other peoples potatoes to someone else!

  • eltoro

    Jul 12, 2010 at 2:13 PM

    Comment #10

    I’m happy enough to bring in some loans from the big sides, but it would be preferable if there was a realistic chance of signing them. So Cleverley rather than Wilshere for example and I also think Jack Cork would be a good signing who can play anywhere across the defence or midfield and is unlikely to make the breakthrough with Chelsea.

    For our youngsters, Vuckic is realistically the only one who can have an impact – along with Kadar and Ranger. Those now too old for the under 18s – Airey, Inman, Adjei etc should be sent on loan in my opinion because a year in reserves only is pointless. The reserves play so few games and I can only see that this will halt development. Donaldson has just had a season like that and should definitely be given a chance out on loan.

  • yskel

    Jul 12, 2010 at 2:14 PM

    Comment #11

    Ericles I agree in an ideal world we would not need to. But we need to continue being pragmatic like were last season. We were all crying out for these youth loans last year to make sure we went back up. This year we should be looking at these youth loans to give us that little bit more cover and quality off the bench that we will need to stay in the division.

  • Captain Beefheart

    Jul 12, 2010 at 2:20 PM

    Comment #12

    If our ‘development squad’ (the notch above the academy and one below the main squad) isn’t good enough to provide adequate injury cover why oh why do w have it at all? I agree with Ericles, we need to be courageous enough to allow our own youngsters come through.

    The more young loanees we bring in, the more resentment grows and incentive fades with our own lads. We need to be brave enough to take a simple risk here, if we are confident (I am) that 50 points is possible with our own players then we MUST say NO to loan players and take the inexperienced mistakes and annoying defeats on the chin in the belief the same mistakes will not be made again.

    If each season we can add 8-10 points to our final tally so by 2013/14 we can be pushing for a top 5 finish with a solid squad.

    There is no other way imho.. And the fans must similarly learn to get off the players’ and manager’s backs and see the much bigger picture. We ain’t gonna win nowt this year or next year or the year after but possibly (just possibly) 2013/14 might be the breakthrough if we treat this Toon project as a marathon not a sprint.

  • noir9

    Jul 12, 2010 at 2:23 PM

    Comment #13

    yskel, well said mate. Supporters are right to mention the downside to loan players from the mancs etc but as you have pointed-out there are lots of benefits.
    The loan players that we are being linked with seem to be ahead of some of our own youngsters in terms of development & have already had loan spells in the fizzy & epl.

  • Captain Beefheart

    Jul 12, 2010 at 2:24 PM

    Comment #14

    PS: Loans as trial periods are a different matter and the PFA should insist that all u21 players are signed on this basis with an opt out for both club and player after 3 months. This way teams are signing players to develop and encourage them, and not speculating on future values.

  • yskel

    Jul 12, 2010 at 2:42 PM

    Comment #15

    Beefheart you make a compelling argument. And i’m sure CH will give these guys a chance if they prove they are good enough. As he has said today the door is “Ajar”

    But as an example if we cannot sign a good cover winger this off season, then why not take a big club youth player to fill that gap? Aside from kazenga who will probably go out on loan to Brighton again i can’t think of anyone that would really fit that bill as haris plays through the centre and i’m not sure that any of the other youngster are physically mature enough to cope just yet.

    I personally think that we can blood our own youngsters AND get some good un’s on loan (that fill a specific need) from elsewhere to make a good squad of players.

    Better than us wasting money on a backup player that we have no confidence in.

  • roblee7

    Jul 12, 2010 at 3:56 PM

    Comment #16

    I’m not sure about the loan scenario TBH….I mean, if we’re signing Gosling, I can’t see where he’d fit in at the moment, great for the future perhaps….loan signings to me would basically mean a waste of time for the player being loaned, and us!! Remember Giuseppe Rossi anyone???! Great player, but no space for him, a TOTAL waste of a loan! This is what I think will happen with any ‘loans’ we make this season….I mean would Wilshire or Cleverly or any other loan target break into our team? I’m not so sure. Granted, there are pro’s and cons, just can’t remember the last time we loaned somebody where it A) worked and B) thought, ‘Really glad we loaned him like’!! We have enough back-up in our current crop of youngsters, in my humble opinion….

  • MacToon

    Jul 12, 2010 at 4:02 PM

    Comment #17

    JSYproject // Jul 12, 2010 at 1:52 PM

    People like mactoon seem to care more about stickin it to ferguson……

    What on earth are you talking about!

    I wonder why we don’t play or trust some of our youngsters, Roeder had to and they did quite well from what I remember. We have LuaLua back too and others who should be able to play in the first team.

  • JSYproject

    Jul 12, 2010 at 4:05 PM

    Comment #18

    fitz hall provided good cover when he was called upon. Van aahnolt was a beast when jose was injured. That was just last season.

  • roblee7

    Jul 12, 2010 at 4:13 PM

    Comment #19

    JSYproject….yes, in the championship., not sure Fitz Hall would have coped too well with the likes of Drogba, Rooney, Torres,etc. I forgot about Van Aahnolt though, he was immense to be fair! I’d just like to see our own youngsters given a decent shot at it……..

  • roblee7

    Jul 12, 2010 at 4:15 PM

    Comment #20

    …Vukic, Kadar, Donaldson, Forster, all seem good back up to me…Kadar n Vukic in particular!

  • JSYproject

    Jul 12, 2010 at 4:26 PM

    Comment #21

    yea he done well in the fizzy pop.. and now were lookin at better loan prospects now were in the premier league.

    Sorry mactoon i appear to have confused myself as much as you haha, i must have mis-read something, or maybe even something from another topic maybe… Although my point was basically everyones sayin ‘why would we nurture alex fergusons players’ etc, but imo it would be more a case of us gettin the help… we need some improvements but dont wanna waste money on a player who may become surplus to requirements next year when our own players may have progressed enough to fill the void.

  • MacToon

    Jul 12, 2010 at 4:30 PM

    Comment #22

    fair enough JSY,

    SAF wasn’t happy about the lack of time Rossi got to play when here so I imagine with loans from the likes of Arsenal and Man U, there will be a play me clause, that is the problem imo.

    Van Aarnolt did a good job when here but weren’t we disappointed we couldn’t buy him? I was.

  • roblee7

    Jul 12, 2010 at 4:32 PM

    Comment #23

    if we could loan schweinsteiger, david villa, Messi and iniesta that would help 🙂

  • MacToon

    Jul 12, 2010 at 4:33 PM

    Comment #24

    lol, only with an option 2 buy 😉

  • roblee7

    Jul 12, 2010 at 4:34 PM

    Comment #25

    MacToon – agreed

    I was gutted we couldn’t keep Van Aanholt, where is he now? Rotting in the Chelski reserves? I’d happily pay anywhere between 3-5 million for him, I’m convinced he’s a future Holland International….thats if he escapes the Chelski Reserves!!!

  • roblee7

    Jul 12, 2010 at 4:35 PM

    Comment #26

    haha, yeah…i wonder if any of such players were loaned out in their youth? How jammy would that be!! an 18 year old Messi on loan….i wish!!

  • boater

    Jul 12, 2010 at 4:37 PM

    Comment #27

    captain beefheart –

    You would like to think so wouldn’t you – our supporter’s patience, calmness and stoic faith in the club’s long term developmental strategy under the astute stewardship of a fast-improving young english coaching and management team.

    More like – after 2 or 3 defeats the mob will start chanting for Shearaa (with some daft Rob lee/Speed as assistants notion) to replace Hughton, we’ll see the undoing of all the long-term measures put into place recently and once again be reeling as a club in turmoil.

    I hoped our year in purgatory would have helped get supporters’ head’s focused on survival at any costs, but if this message board is owt to go by we have learned absolutely nothing.

  • roblee7

    Jul 12, 2010 at 4:41 PM

    Comment #28

    Boater – Howay man, I’ve always fancied being the next Terry Mac!!! (from Rob Lee)

  • Sgt. Heagerty

    Jul 12, 2010 at 5:24 PM

    Comment #29

    look alot of you guys are making valid points a
    bout not wanting to grow man u and arsenals
    youngsters into full fledged prem league players
    while our youngsters who have equal if not better
    potential get left out and held back in their
    maturing process. i agree but this season is the
    most important one in newcastles history. we are
    either gonna establish ourselves as a legit prem
    league team again or a fringe team yo yoing back
    and forth from the soda pop league like west brom.
    i want our youngsters to take priority just like
    the rest of yall but if they are not quite ready
    to put in real minutes and help this team and
    we can get a young man u player on loan who is
    ready then i think the choice is easy. we hae
    to do whatever it takes to survive this season.
    next year when we are established and we are in
    a better financial situation then we can make
    sure are youngsters get priority. toon army til
    i die!!!!!


    Jul 12, 2010 at 5:48 PM

    Comment #30

    mac toon, we sold lualua to brighton & hove as i recall?

    no definitive news on gosling??

  • MacToon

    Jul 12, 2010 at 5:49 PM

    Comment #31

    Nothing official on Gosling yet! mmmmm

    What positions do we need loans in or are they extra to cover positions incase of injuries?

  • MacToon

    Jul 12, 2010 at 5:51 PM

    Comment #32

    DJM TOON, if he’s sold (LusLua) then he’s sneaked into the training camp with the rest of the squad in Ireland!

    Come on get it right 😉


    Jul 12, 2010 at 6:02 PM

    Comment #33

    your right mactoon, sorry fella, checked and it was a loan. my bad

  • ashleys wallets cobwebs

    Jul 12, 2010 at 6:07 PM

    Comment #34

    apart from vuckic how has the rest of the youngsters been doing in the stiffs ? that should give a better insite into how they perform against ” men ” rather than their own age group , anyone go to many reserve games ?

  • ashleys wallets cobwebs

    Jul 12, 2010 at 6:09 PM

    Comment #35

    wonder if gosling was just paper talk ? daily mirror hardly a reliable source , was it not them a couple of years ago who said we had signed tiago on loan from juventus ? when we had only enquired about him ?

  • Robby Bobson

    Jul 12, 2010 at 6:11 PM

    Comment #36

    Anyone see the last 2 sets of pictures of the toon training?

    Vuckic is an aboslute beat of a player. He seems to be shoulder to shoulder with the likes of Shola and Carroll and he is known for his technique.

    Drill him in holding the ball up and heading, along with the technique he is best known for and he can become the ultimate, complete striker.

    And hes still got some growing left in him!!

  • baro

    Jul 12, 2010 at 6:26 PM

    Comment #37

    I’m glad that CH is giving him a chance.

  • Geordie-Gerrard7

    Jul 12, 2010 at 6:41 PM

    Comment #38

    I have this on verrrrry good authority, that young danny boy has chosen us over, the filth, Celtic, rangers, Bolton, w. Ham, villa, spurs and Even arsenal and man united were keen to talk to him, ironically it was Steven Taylor who sold the club to him, and also joey Barton was a big influence In the move. So fair play to chrissy hughton actualy getting players to sell the club to him, and also shows we still have the pulling power to the younger generation. I think this will spell the end of our move for cabaye of Lille. I have also heard that we have moved for sturridge of Chelsea, with a year loan to see how it goes, he has just bought a 4 mill mansion in the north- west, and would ideally like a move north, so
    I thinkthats how that came about!!

  • MacToon

    Jul 12, 2010 at 6:51 PM

    Comment #39

    GG, I’d imagine being free attracted quite a few clubs, when it going to be official, any idea?

  • Raffo

    Jul 12, 2010 at 6:57 PM

    Comment #40

    If that’s true then fantastic, also should prove that steve t is staying with us too.

    Any other little nuggets? Is it chizzy, or does David craig still come on here?


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