Can Shola Ameobi Score Goals For Newcastle Next Season?


One of the positive things we saw on Saturday at Carrow Road, was another good goal from 28 year-old striker, Shola Ameobi.

Shola Ameobi – can he score goals this season?

And the big question with Shola is can he score goals this coming seaosn in the Premier League?

Shola played for Bobby Robson back in 2000, that’s ten years ago now, and has always looked a promising player, but without ever reaching his potential.

And his consistency has not been too good either, as in some games he is just too anonymous.  Of course last August, Shola was just fantastic, hitting 5 goals before being laid off with an injury, at the end of that month.

Chris talked about Shola this morning:

“Shola is a goalscorer,” “You know that if you get the ball to him in the right areas he’ll score goals. He has good qualities, he’s two-footed and there is his height too.”

“He could be an important player for us this season – he’s an important part of the squad. He showed that last season.”

“His argument might be that if he hadn’t had the injury he might have been a bigger part of it. He would certainly have scored more goals.”

And of course the player himself seems to have no doubts at all that he can get us some goals in the coming season,  and he told the Journal this morning:

“I know I can score goals in the Premier League,”

“There’s not really an established pecking order at the moment, which maybe wasn’t always the case in the past when someone like Alan (Shearer) was around.”

“Chances will come along for all the strikers, and you have to take them when they arrive.” “I was chosen to start last season and I scored a hat-trick in my first home game, but Andy got into the side and finished as top scorer. Things like that happen.”

“Nobody knows what’s going to happen this season – you just have to make sure you give your all and make sure you’re in the best possible shape to show the manager that you’re ready for the task ahead.”

“It’s going to be a big year for me personally, but then every year is a big year. It’s been one injury after another for me in the last couple of seasons, but I can’t do anything about that.”

“It’s not as though there’s a weakness there that’s affecting me – it’s been lots of different injuries that I haven’t been able to do anything about.”

“I approach every season exactly the same. I want to put myself in the best shape to go out there and do my best as soon as the season begins.”

Big words from Shola, and we really hope he can back those words up with goals as the season goes on – because we’ll certainly need them.

But it seems to us that Newcastle will be looking to Andy Carroll and Peter Lovenkrands as the main scorers next season, and we doubt whether Shola can get  us too many goals next season – if we were to be absolutely truthful about it.

But hey – we’d be very happy if Shola proved us wrong on that one.

Comments welcome.



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35 comments so far

  • GeordieDan

    Jul 26, 2010 at 10:58 AM

    Comment #1

    Sorry Shola, heard it all before mate.

    Every year for the last 10 years actually!

    Talks a great game then goes into pensioner mode as soon as he sets foot on to the pitch of a Premier League game.

    Disappointing ‘coz glimpses pop up every now and again of just what he can do when he does make an effort. Big shame really.

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  • henok ethiopian toon

    Jul 26, 2010 at 11:01 AM

    Comment #2

    he will score at least 15 goals next season…if he is not injured

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  • GeordieDan

    Jul 26, 2010 at 11:04 AM

    Comment #3

    Bit early for ur usual BS isn’t it?

    15 goals? Is he getting loaned back to a Championship team again like?

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  • G

    Jul 26, 2010 at 11:14 AM

    Comment #4

    Shola has the ability, there is no doubting that, however, consistency of play seems a bit erratic at best. On the plus side, his scoring record in the prem, certainly isnt the worst I have ever seen, and he has scored some important goals in some important competitions in the past. On the negative side, he seems to lack confidence in lining up his shots, he always takes one touch too many in my opionion, trying to tie up the perfect shot, where I feel he should be more instinctive, also his injury record stands against him and I don’t think we will ever see a 100% fit shola on the field. Come on SA, prove me wrong son.

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  • Ericles

    Jul 26, 2010 at 11:25 AM

    Comment #5

    I know with legs like his he needs to pass to himself sometimes. Anyway I think he will do his best and get a few if he actually plays and is not injured. Give him some leeway – same as for Xisco!

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  • geordie_india

    Jul 26, 2010 at 11:26 AM

    Comment #6

    Can Shola score the goals ? Its better to ask Can Shola avoid the injuries?

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  • PapaToon

    Jul 26, 2010 at 11:41 AM

    Comment #7

    Can shola scores goals in the PL……. NO!. For his size he is the biggest pussy i have ever seen. Does not know how to use his size. Have a look at Carrol 10 years younger and already uses his body to hold the ball or create an oppurtunity. The goal he scored c on the weekend he wont be able to do that in PL. It wont be that easy to get a shot off. Sell him, hes had plenty of goes. We have enough strikers of his ability and better so no need for him. Give ranger a go, or get someone like carlton cole.

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  • boater

    Jul 26, 2010 at 12:11 PM

    Comment #8

    That was (above) relatively ok. I open a blog about shola with severe apprehension at the bile the chavs will spew up. He really is a hate figure now and that makes me disappointed with people like papa toon – and rotonda and geordie lad, etc. You have to laugh – even when shola scores (which he does more than any other striker at the club) people say ‘ahh well it was lucky’ or ‘he won’t do it in the prem level’… it’s like people are wanting him to fail to assert their own prejudices.

    He has served this club with dignity and patience for 10 years – and unlike harper has only ever had grief for doing so. People talk about playing for the badge – well he has waited in the wings for the odd chance over ten years – most of the time he takes it and scores.

    The only proven premiership scorer in the squad, and the most technically gifted by a country mile.

    People talk about

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  • boater

    Jul 26, 2010 at 12:12 PM

    Comment #9

    * a lot of rot.

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  • Ericles

    Jul 26, 2010 at 12:20 PM

    Comment #10

    Well said boater. It needed saying. I am still going to have faith in Shola and expect his loyalty to help NUFC through the bad patches when they come. He is a black and white shirter and like the rest of the squad needs our support. Go on Shola – suprise the doubting Thomases and get us some of your unexpected goals when the team needs them!

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  • eltoro

    Jul 26, 2010 at 12:23 PM

    Comment #11

    His scoring record last year was great and if he stays fit he is always likely to score. When he has scored it has tended to come in patches where a) he is well clear of injury and b) the manager shows confidence in him.

    I think his problem as a player is that he has never learnt how to play the target man role which he is equipped for. When he was young he tended to drift out wide and use his pace and dribbling and often he came on to partner Shearer. He has never had consistant football in the right role and will probably never be able to do it.

    He does though have better finishing than Carroll or Lovenkrands in my opinion.

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  • MacToon

    Jul 26, 2010 at 12:26 PM

    Comment #12

    I’m with boater on this one.

    It’s a new era at NUFC and a clean slate for all players imo, Xisco and Best included if they remain at the club.

    The key is for the players to stay uninjured.

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  • Robby Bobson

    Jul 26, 2010 at 12:34 PM

    Comment #13

    He does seem to score when he gets a run of games….under Roeders miraculous season and when kinnear brought him in.

    But hes career has been interrupted so much through injuries. Last season he had half a sniff and scored in a very poor season for him injury wise. Look at goals against Cov, Sheff Wed and Forest. No other player in our team would have scored them.

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  • boater

    Jul 26, 2010 at 12:40 PM

    Comment #14

    Exactly. I don’t expect him to score 20 goals – I’m just sick of him being used as the punch bag for the mob. He’s been here for 10 years and never got caught up in any off-field controversy. We moan about players not caring about the club – but when they do can’t wait to cart them off.

    Also – I saw a new maturity in his game last season – almost classy and statesmanlike at times. Of all our forwards he was the one that looked too good for the league – but they say ‘ahh he’s found his level’ it’s comical.

    Still would use him off the bench behind carroll mind you. And we do need another pacy striker n’all.

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  • MacToon

    Jul 26, 2010 at 12:52 PM

    Comment #15

    The league has to be a priority (again) this season and we have two cup competitions to play in.
    So maybe Carroll and (if we play 2 strikers) Loven might be first choice in the league.
    Maybe Shola nad Best could play well together in a cup competition with Krul in goal!

    Agree we need a fast striker too and more if Hugnton’s allowed to bring some flair into the team.

    It’s gonna be a long season.

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  • eltoro

    Jul 26, 2010 at 1:16 PM

    Comment #16

    Does anyone else worry that Carroll can’t cut it on his own? He has no movement, no pace and all he offers is the physical challenge. Doesn’t fill me with any confidence about seeing decent football.

    Ranger, despite his lack of goals looks by far the most suitable in the loan role.

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  • G

    Jul 26, 2010 at 1:18 PM

    Comment #17

    On the postitive side of Shola stories, he did provide me with one of my favorite football anecdotes:

    Journalist: So Shola, what does Bobby Robson Call you?
    Shola: Carl Cort!

    Quality

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  • Obafan

    Jul 26, 2010 at 1:36 PM

    Comment #18

    Yes he can and if he stays fit he will do that.

    I even think that he should start over Carroll. Okay Carroll works hard and is great in the air, but he has not got that much technical skills ans is not fast.

    On another note it is a new season in the EPL and I will give every single player a fresh start. So Best, Ameobi, Carroll, … come on boys it doesn’ t really matter who scores if we score and win games that is the most important thing.

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  • Whumpie

    Jul 26, 2010 at 1:53 PM

    Comment #19

    Glad to see some support for wor Shola on here – he gets some really short-sighted, ignorant stick from some people who can’t get their heads around the idea of a big forward who ISN’T a target man.

    He has better ball skills than any of our strikers, which is why he has the best strike rate. It’s no coincidence that he scored off the bench each time he came back from injury next season. I think he and Carroll will be vying for top scorer next season.

    My one concern is that he says he can’t do anything about injuries. Todge. He needs to talk to Gary Speed, who has shown just how much you can do. 4 hours of Ashtanga a week, for a start.

    Gwaarn, Big Lad – make it your season, fella.

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  • burnsie

    Jul 26, 2010 at 1:53 PM

    Comment #20

    I truely believe that the man is a legend. he has over 200 appearances for the club man! he a geordie for crying out loud lads! back off him cos tbh he NEVER complains, usually scores when hes fit, tall, two footed, not that high wages, hometown (adopted) club, never in trouble, believes i himself, committed……….what more can u ask for??? ok so hes not torres – but he sure aint no heskey either! hes a unique player and we are blessed that we have him. and this isnt a wind up post.

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  • Ericles

    Jul 26, 2010 at 2:02 PM

    Comment #21

    At last some good common sense about Shola. I really hope he is reading this site today!

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  • NUFC_Richyg01

    Jul 26, 2010 at 2:15 PM

    Comment #22

    I really hope he can but I fear that last season he maybe found his level in the fizzy pop league.

    But, I will say this, Go ahead Shola, Prove your doubters & critics wrong.

    Howay Lads!

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  • xfer

    Jul 26, 2010 at 3:07 PM

    Comment #23

    “You know that if you get the ball to him in the right areas he’ll score goals.”

    Good words from CH.

    Right areas = 6 yards out with keeper already beaten from cross.

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  • PapaToon

    Jul 26, 2010 at 3:47 PM

    Comment #24

    Ameobi scores in the championship and against relegation favourite teams occasionally. In the premier league if you want to be the main striker which he claims to be you need to score into double figures. There are younger guys and who have gone past him in the pecking order, Chris hughton sees him train every day and yet chooses Caroll and loverkrands or Ranger. The reason people get frustrated and talk about him is that he has had many chances 10 years for god sake. Hes 28 by now you should have made the grade. and unfortunately he hasnt, always excuses. The places we work at if you said you were sick or some other excuse continuosly what would be the result. You get replaced who can do the job cuz thats what you get paid for. Ameobi is no different do the job in a reasonable time frame or ship out so someone else gets there chance.

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  • Whumpie

    Jul 26, 2010 at 3:52 PM

    Comment #25

    …and up pops xfer to prove our point.

    Pointless, mis-informed c**p from people who just don’t acknowledge the skill Shola displays on his good matches – which is MOST of them.

    As for ‘found his level’, do you not remember his stats from recent seasons? With a knackered hip he still kept pace with our ‘star’ strikers, and generally got up close to 1 per 2 games. What about the mackem derby when he came off the bench to score a brace and save our arses?
    Better still, he seems able to do it as soon as he hits the turf, not taking 4 matches to ‘get sharp’ unlike certain over-paid, horse-loving crocks of the past.
    Not so much short memories as selective ones on here sometimes.

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  • PapaToon

    Jul 26, 2010 at 3:57 PM

    Comment #26

    Whumpie they way you describe him, you make him sound like Messi. If this was the case he would be not at newcastle and the top four clubs. what u have pointed out is also selective memories. take out is championship run and then have a look at his minutes played to goals ratio. I would swap him in a heartbeat with someone like Carlton cole. same sort of player but hold his ground, gets shots off, can hold the ball up. With ameobi’s size this should happen but does not. Hes normally on the floor appealing for freekicks when hes in a physical tussle with a 5 feet player

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  • Whumpie

    Jul 26, 2010 at 3:57 PM

    Comment #27

    Papa Toon – would you like to try justifying any of that with some meaningful numbers? Oh, wait – you can’t. Because Shola’s strike rate has been excellent.

    Being injured a lot is a problem – but when he’s injured we can play someone else. It’s strikers who play and DON’T score who are a problem, and Shola just isn’t one of them.

    And don’t come up with some daft stat unless you quote a meaninful equivalent from another player. (Before anyone quotes some stupid career-spanning stat, which looks bad for any player)

    Sorry, Papa – not having a go at you so much as the whole mind-set on here who come up with this rubbish. It’s unfair on a decent, loyal and skilled player, and I hate that.

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  • Whumpie

    Jul 26, 2010 at 4:01 PM

    Comment #28

    He does fall over too much – winds me up something rotten.

    And yes, I’d love to see the minutes-to-goals ratio from the last 2 seasons in the prem. I’m not certain, but I think they were similar to Big Al’s. Yes, really.

    And it’s no good comparing him to Carlton Cole, who is probably a £10m striker. I’m just comparing him to the rest of our squad, none of whom measures up to Carlton Cole. From what a lot of people say on here an outsider would get the impression Shola is Sunday league level.

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  • PapaToon

    Jul 26, 2010 at 4:06 PM

    Comment #29

    can you answer why in his ten years at newcastle even when Shearer wasnt playing why he didnt start, why players like Andy Carroll, Loverkrands, and to an extent Nile Ranger are infront of him.
    Whumpie ask a business what happens even if a worker is good at what he does but is always sick. They get the sack cuz you have to look at the bigger picture and in this case it is Newcastle paying somones salary who can be available majority of the time to step up.
    I dont have the time otherwise i would do some meaninful stats in the sense, how many minutes shola played in the PL in each season and how many goals he scored and against who he scored. Against who he scored is important as well. But seriously i dont have the time otherwise i would look at the data.

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  • PapaToon

    Jul 26, 2010 at 4:40 PM

    Comment #30

    Season Minutes Goals Assist 90 min Games Goals per game
    2006-2007 755 3 1 8.388888889 0.357615894
    2007-2008 276 0 0 3.066666667 0
    2008-2009 1261 4 4 14.01111111 0.285487708

    would like to point even when he started he hardly ever got close to lasting 90 minutes for a player whos a ball player and not a holding striker

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  • PapaToon

    Jul 26, 2010 at 4:42 PM

    Comment #31

    scored against teams like sunderland, fulham and Mancity not against any of the top half teams of the season. sorry about the table above couldnt get the excel sheet to come out properly here.

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  • Robby Bobson

    Jul 26, 2010 at 5:07 PM

    Comment #32

    Papatoon….since when is ranger ahead of him?

    And “found his level?”. Surely excelling at a level isnt finding your level.

    Rodegella has scored 13 goals in two seasons at Wigan. Hes their main striker and been linked with huge money moves for his form at wigan. a A striker who has been in the premiership for all but one season and scored 40 odd goals there is good enough for us next season thank you very much.

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  • baro

    Jul 26, 2010 at 5:20 PM

    Comment #33

    No matter how Shola does theres no doubt that Chris Hughton will give him a chance. He always does and gives the youngsters no chance. Ranger, Haris Vuckic are stars in the making.

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  • Whumpie

    Jul 26, 2010 at 5:37 PM

    Comment #34

    Papatoon – ta for looking up the stats; seriously!

    The key stat isn’t there (and may not be available, unfortunately) – goals per minute. If they exclude sub games for someone like Shola it knacks the figures. Even so – .36 and .29 aren’t all that bad; any chance you could get Carroll’s and Lover’s equivalents?

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  • PapaToon

    Jul 27, 2010 at 1:40 PM

    Comment #35

    the figures includes all appearances for shola Whumpie.

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