Marseilles President – Newcastle Not A Good Choice For Ben Arfa

The deal for Newcastle to take Hatem Ben Arfa to Newcastle seems to have collapsed, but the player still wants to come to Tyneside and is trying to force the deal through.

Hatem Ben Arfa – on strike at Marseilles?

News last night was that Hatem has said he never wants to play for Marseilles again, and he has disappeared and is presumably on strike – or that’s what the French press is reporting..

Now that a deal has been agreed to allow Mamadou Niang to leaves for Turkish side Fenerbahce, the French club want to keep Ben Arfa at the club for next season.

The next couple of days will be interesting to say the least, and Marseilles President Jean-Claude Dassier talked to Goal in France today:

“Hatem will remain at the club. We will not loan him out when Mamadou Niang leaves for Fenerbahce.”

“We will not be creating problems for the sake of creating problems.” “I do not have to sell him off. If Newcastle are unable to buy him, that is their problem.”

“I personally do not think this a good choice for him. Even if they come with an offer, it will take some time and we would advise him to be careful,”

It’s clear that Newcastle do not have the cash to buy the player outright right now, which is why they wanted to take the lad on loan first,  but it seems that Marseilles are now digging in their heels on any loan move.

And in an earlier statement Jean-Claude Dassier tried to shift some of the attention to the Newcastle camp, by claiming manager Chris Hughton was not in step with those in power on Tyneside:

‘I do not think the coach of Newcastle is in-step with his leaders, if you believe his statements.”

Newcastle do not do their transfer business in public, but will need to reassess their position on this loan deal, and that old adage – nothing comes easy for Newcastle – seems to be true – at least with this deal,  which has presumably been in the works for weeks.

We think there’s very little chance of Newcastle buying the player outright, although the Tyneside club may try to sweeten their loan deal.

What’s to Newcastle’s advantage in all of this is that Hatem Ben Arfa seems to have his heart set on playing for Newcastle, so that may help the Tyneside club to still push the deal through.

But right now it doesn’t look good that the very skillful and talented 23 year-old will end up at Newcastle.

However,  stanger things have happened.

Comments welcome.

26 comments so far

  • Indian Magpie

    Aug 13, 2010 at 8:40 AM

    Comment #1

    BUT Ben arfa is a good cjoice for newcastle

  • paddyq

    Aug 13, 2010 at 8:43 AM

    Comment #2

    its a pity that he most likely wont end up coming, he is a cracking player as CH said.

    in any case, would be nice for a bit of closure on this whole saga, one way or the other!

  • Jan Stavik

    Aug 13, 2010 at 9:06 AM

    Comment #3

    If we can’t afford the 1m loan fee we should stay away from trying to bring star players in. If you are broke, you don’t go to the luxury stores, you go to somewhere cheap.

  • Rotonda heights

    Aug 13, 2010 at 9:13 AM

    Comment #4

    Not a good choice for the president of OM as a loan to us instead of a full payment deal from anywhere else is far less desirable. It’s so transparent it’s pathetic.

    In the light of our 3 arrivals, one of whom is not PL class, another is crocked indefinitely and the third is rather shamefully still unfit nearly a month on after signing, then I wish instead of going for mediocre players like Roberts, we started giving our much vaunted but hardly ever used youngsters a go. Sure it’s throwing them in at the deep end, but isn’t that usually the best way ?

  • NUFC_Richyg01

    Aug 13, 2010 at 9:16 AM

    Comment #5

    The president of OM is just making himself look like a complete tit, it was HIM who last week said we would have Arfa by Tues/Wed this week, not us.



  • Ericles

    Aug 13, 2010 at 9:20 AM

    Comment #6

    Dassier or a dosser?

  • Ericles

    Aug 13, 2010 at 9:21 AM

    Comment #7

    If anybody is out of step it is Dassier – he is the one who has been dancing around like a fairy over this deal.

  • BillBurch

    Aug 13, 2010 at 9:23 AM

    Comment #8

    Shades of NZOGBIA! I think this lad wants amove to the Premiership rather than specifically to Newcastle. But he’s the sort of player we need. If our youngsters are not good enough, move them out but give them a chance first!

  • davybtoon

    Aug 13, 2010 at 9:23 AM

    Comment #9

    i cant believe ppl cant c what is goin here marseille are doin what all french clubs do agree a deal n then move the goal posts only this is gonna backfire on them with HBA refusal to return or play for them until he gets his move expect this to happen within the next few days

  • Partizan

    Aug 13, 2010 at 9:29 AM

    Comment #10

    Jan Stavik-Competely agree with you,,,,lets just stick with CCL players.

    With this team no matter how high is our dressing room spirit,,,we will go down for sure.

    Just wait for 2-3 more injuries,,,we will be even worse than the season we got relegated.
    Its only a matter of time when Jonas,Colo,Enrique will hand transfer requests,,,my guess is this January.

  • NUFC_Richyg01

    Aug 13, 2010 at 9:39 AM

    Comment #11

    @ davybtoon

    Arfa going Awol will force their hand, if all the media spec was try about the frailty between Deschamps and Arfa, then this situation will just make things worse, I cant see Arfa staying at OM.

    Wether he comes to us or not, we will have to wait and see.

  • geordielad880

    Aug 13, 2010 at 9:54 AM

    Comment #12

    sunderland have made moves to sign craig bellamy his agent is heading to the north east for talks today apparently, ohhh dear, 🙁

  • geordielad880

    Aug 13, 2010 at 9:55 AM

    Comment #13

    they are building a decent side, still think their midfield is nothing special though, would love their strike force if bellamy signed, bent and bellamy, wouldnt mind that at the toon

  • NUFC_Richyg01

    Aug 13, 2010 at 10:20 AM

    Comment #14

    Sunderland have just taken Welbeck from Manure and are now looking at Crouch or Bellemy.

    I think we should go ask them about Frazer Campbell.

  • NUFC_Richyg01

    Aug 13, 2010 at 10:22 AM

    Comment #15

    I dont beleive that Arfa has gone AWOL, i think he was given the day off since he played for France the night before.

  • geordielad880

    Aug 13, 2010 at 10:30 AM

    Comment #16

    frazer campbell is poor mate, dont want any sunderland rejects, i want bellamy back at the toon

  • geordielad880

    Aug 13, 2010 at 10:34 AM

    Comment #17

    there is NO chance of newcastle buying bellamy as he has no resale value, loan would be the only thing newcastle would entertain, and cant see that, as hughton makes a big issue of the dressing room morale

  • Doha Mag

    Aug 13, 2010 at 10:35 AM

    Comment #18

    Cracking player and at the right age; but has a very bad attitude. If he goes awol with Marseille he’ll do the same with his next club…….

    Would love to see him at Newcastle but concerned about his attitude when things start to go wrong!

  • NUFC_Richyg01

    Aug 13, 2010 at 10:38 AM

    Comment #19

    @ Doha Mag (18)

    It seems to be a recurring trait of the French players.

    Like I said, who says he was AWOL, I think OM gave him a day off training after the France match – makes sense really.

  • geordielad880

    Aug 13, 2010 at 10:52 AM

    Comment #20

    and from translating the OM website, it sounds like ashley is up to his old tricks, seems like its ashley and llambias who are in touch with OM and hughton doesnt know much about it. Sounds a bit like what happened with xisco, i personally dont think gosling was hughtons choice either

  • Rotonda heights

    Aug 13, 2010 at 12:05 PM

    Comment #21

    Partizan I don’t think any of our players would hand in trnasfer requests, they’re on way too much money.

  • Sir Erec

    Aug 13, 2010 at 12:09 PM

    Comment #22

    geordielad880- sol campbell has no resale value either…

  • geordielad880

    Aug 13, 2010 at 12:17 PM

    Comment #23

    yeah but he is also on a one year contract, and didnt cost a fee, bit of a difference, think about it…..

  • geordielad880

    Aug 13, 2010 at 12:18 PM

    Comment #24

    and ben arfa has threatened to quit football if they dont let him go to newcastle, and he was supposed to meet DD this morning with his agent, but didnt turn up either

  • Obafan

    Aug 13, 2010 at 1:09 PM

    Comment #25

    Most on here keep talking about the step Arfa made by staying away from his club.

    Well, it might not be the right thing to do, but if your boss (here OM president) says that you will get something you really want (pay raise; here; going to EPL club Newcastle) and then when everything seems to be okay he pulls back his tale (no raise or not going to NUFC) how would you feel and how would you reacct?

    Again it might not be the right thing to do, but let’s hope it will have an impact ASAP.

  • danfrz

    Aug 13, 2010 at 3:08 PM

    Comment #26

    It mentioned on sky sports news before that ben arfa had not turned up for training for a second day which in my opinion is good – he will end up forcing a move to us


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