Manchester United 3 Newcastle 0 – Red Devils Too Good


Newcastle were fairly well beaten 3-0 by a good and superior Manchester United side tonight at Old Trafford.

And while we were hardly ever in with a chance of winning this game, Chris Hughton can take some real positives out of this game tonight.

There was the expected commitment from the Newcastle players, and they held on for 32 minutes  before conceding the first goal, but it was also apparent that reinforcements must be brought into the squad before the end of August.

Only then will  Chris Hughton have any real chance  of avoiding another blood and guts relegation season.

The lads look well organized, knew exactly what their jobs were, and seemed to be well coached – but were just not good enough – is a good way to sum up this game – not good enough against a team as good and polished as Manchester United were tonight.

The game got off to a fairly decent start for Newcastle and they held their own in the first 30 minutes, and keeping a clean sheet early was always going to be important.

And before Berbatov scored the first goal on 32 minutes Steve Harper hadn’t had a shot to save, but no doubt the Red Devils had the vast majority of possession and were starting to wear down the Magpies by their incessant attacking.

And the best chance of the first 30 minutes went to our own Andy Carroll who had a clear header after 10 minutes. Andy did all the hard work by alluding his defensive markers,  but then headed the ball about two yards wide of the the left hand post, when it looked easier to score. If that had been a goal it could have altered the game.

But the inevitable goal came when Berbatov broke through down the right hand channel, and a sliding challenge from Enrique only teed the ball up for the Romanian, who made no mistake and smashed it past the helpless Harper.

And then after 41 minutes, as the Red Devils were becoming more and more dominant, Darren Fetcher made it two, when he beat Coloccini to a loose ball on the six yard box and whipped it past goalkeeper Harper.

2-0 and it looked like the game was well beyond the reach of  the Magpies as the half time whistle blew, with  Newcastle looking to be in for a possible hiding in the second half.

Newcastle had to play it very carefully in the final 45 minutes, as they tried to pull a goal back, but also couldn’t expose themselves too much at the back, otherwise the Red Devils would catch them short at the back, and put the game beyond all doubt.

Andy Carroll would have impressed watching managers as he caused all kinds of trouble for Jonny Evans in the air – especially in the second half – and won almost every ball in the air – so Andy is no one season wonder, but was impressive again tonight.

But against all the odds in the second half Newcastle had a decent half, and defended quite well, even though Manchester United were continuing to look polished, and moving forward all the time

The Magpies, to their credit,  didn’t concede again until 5 minutes from the end of the match when Paul Scholes, the best player on the field, teed up his long term team-mate Ryan Giggs from the right, and the Welshman hit the ball with his left foot (what else?) beyond the diving Steve Harper to make it 3-0.

A number of good performances from the Newcastle players tonight, with Mike Williamson having a decent game at center-back, and Andy Carroll full of commitment and endeavor up front.

Some of the performances of the Newcastle lads will please manager Chris Hughton, and auger well for the future, but we are still short of  real class.

That’s what we need  if we are to be one of the better Premier League sides – which we are not right now – that was made abundantly clear tonight.

We said before the game we didn’t expect anything out of this game, and we are nowhere near the class of the Manchester Uniteds and Chelseas of this world.

But these are not the games that will make or break our season, it’s against the bottom 10 teams that we’ll need to pick up some points and our season will depend on how we fare in those games.

All in all this was a decent performance from the lads, in what was always going to be a very tough first game against a very very good side.

Remember to let us know who you think was Newcastle’s best player in our poll on the home page.

TEAMS:

Manchester United: Van der Sar; O’Shea, Vidic, Evans, Evra; Valencia, Fletcher, Scholes, Nani; Berbatov, Rooney.
Subs:Kuszczak, Rafael Da Silva, Smalling, Carrick, Giggs, Macheda, Hernandez.

Newcastle United: Steve Harper, James Perch, Mike Williamson, Fabricio Coloccini, Jonas Enrique, Wayne Routledge, Alan Smith, Joey Barton, Jonas Gutierrez, Kevin Nolan, Andy Carroll.
Subs: Ryan Taylor, Xisco, Shola Ameobi, Tim Krul, Haris Vuckic, Nile Ranger, James Tavernier.

Referee: C Foy



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129 comments so far

  • geordie_india

    Aug 16, 2010 at 10:29 PM

    Comment #1

    Andy carroll and Alan Smith was good today!!! Howay the lads

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  • Flop

    Aug 16, 2010 at 10:31 PM

    Comment #2

    I thought the CB’s did ok it was the fullbacks which struggled both Enrique and Perch had poor games, but honestly how many teams have players as good as Nani and Valencia. Scholes was class, but after the first 30 mins we let him have so much space.

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  • Isaac Hunt

    Aug 16, 2010 at 10:34 PM

    Comment #3

    Better get used to this. Manure were nowt special the night. We simply aint good enough for the prem.

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  • baro

    Aug 16, 2010 at 10:34 PM

    Comment #4

    Williamson was SHIT. Andy Carroll was awesome, played with his heart.

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  • Martin33

    Aug 16, 2010 at 10:35 PM

    Comment #5

    Frankly, We played very well in the first half an hour. BTW, I don’t think it is a good idea to play Nolan as a forward or SS. He is definitely best suitable for CM or DM. Anyway, Carroll proves his PL quiality today and Harper is still in sharp.

    Oh it is 5:35 in the morning in China, time for bed^_^

    Howay the lads…

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  • YANICK MALTA NUFC

    Aug 16, 2010 at 10:36 PM

    Comment #6

    We was so poor today imo

    No support to our striker Andy Carrol.We need a creative midfielder.We missed Dannt Guthrie today ………..

    We surley need a creative midfielder and a striker with good pace …………

    At the back Perch I think is not good enough to be in the first 11 ……….

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  • zeetoon

    Aug 16, 2010 at 10:40 PM

    Comment #7

    berbas not romainian ed. hes bulgarian.

    also, thought only carroll and willo did well for us today. the rest of the lot didn’t look premier league quality. im sorry to say but we’re looking at a very long n hard season unless we don’t get some quality signings in. jose enrique had a terrible game. perch didn’t look good either.

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  • 09nufc09

    Aug 16, 2010 at 10:40 PM

    Comment #8

    williamson did everything that was asked of him! enrique played well against one of the best wingers in the league, everytime valencia got the ball he got shown down the line and wasnt allowed to cross. For all of man u’s possesion i wasnt that impressed by them.

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  • Sudanese_Magpie

    Aug 16, 2010 at 10:40 PM

    Comment #9

    We played well and there were a couple of performances that impressed me particulary alan smith and andy carroll but i was very dissapointed with barton and nolan they were complete no shows. What happend to guthrie, we play so much better when he’s playing as he wants to be on the ball all the time.. joey barton looked like a headless chicken he had absolutley no idea wat was going on. if we are depending on this guy to save us then we are in big trouble.. oh yeah i almost forgot james perch the guy is a complete joke evra and nani took him to the cleaners this guy is clearly not ready for the PL

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  • Flop

    Aug 16, 2010 at 10:41 PM

    Comment #10

    I thought Carroll did well wouldn’t say awesome. But very promising considering he was up top alone with very little support. Barton dropped out of the game all together once he got booked. Nolan…I can’t really remember him doing very much. And where was Lovenkrands? Shola did ok held the ball up well.

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  • jimiley

    Aug 16, 2010 at 10:41 PM

    Comment #11

    Polished is another way of saying we were outclassed. We did Ok as we could not expect any more from 8 players who got relegated and three freebies. No pace in the centre mid killed us. Old man Scholes ran rings around Barton and Smith. Barton is now so slow. Vastly overrated. There is no mobility or pace in the middle which is not quick enough to support our wingers.

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  • dubzy

    Aug 16, 2010 at 10:42 PM

    Comment #12

    Def we need a striker 2 play along side carroll otherwise we aint gunna score 2 many goals in this div……

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  • moonraker

    Aug 16, 2010 at 10:44 PM

    Comment #13

    We all know we need reinforcements but I think CH contributed to this defeat by selecting Routledge and Jonas in midfield tonight.

    Routledge gave the ball away every single time he had possession.

    Why did Ryan Taylor not play wide right? He could have delivered crosses for AC and provided better protection for Perch who looked vulnerable with Routledge in front of him.

    I thought CH’s interview before the game was poor. He more or less said we didn’t have any chance!

    With a more defensive line up we could have got something out of the game and to finish up with 3 centre forwards was a joke.

    Very disappointed in CH tonight; he made a difficult game even harder!!

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  • Toonarmy1993

    Aug 16, 2010 at 10:44 PM

    Comment #14

    routledge was terrible, couldnt pass the ball! least we tried to knock the ball around a bit but ended up giving it away!

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  • G

    Aug 16, 2010 at 10:44 PM

    Comment #15

    Ok, some decent points made above, but far too negative. I agree with Ed’s comments that there are some positives to be had here. We also need to remember that this was one of the 2 hardest fixtures we will see this season. Lets not dwell on the scoreline, because it could have been a sh**e sight worse if Berbatov was more of a team player. Manyoo are a top team, we are a team who has just been promoted out of a substantially worse division. We will get better. I thought the CB pairing was very good given the quality of the opposition. I thought Routeledge was anonymous for long periods of the game, but when he woke up he made a nuisance of himself. Jonas looked very good, Xisco looked lively when he came on. AC looked far better than I thought he would, and what has Shola been eating. He looked built more like a Centre Half than a forward. Villa next, and with a bit of luck they will have Mental Diego in charge by then.

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  • Matt

    Aug 16, 2010 at 10:45 PM

    Comment #16

    We showed a lot of promise, we had good spells and look like we can be a danger to lesser teams from set pieces and open play.

    Carroll was very good. Shola was bad. Harper is at fault for 2 of the goals and is having his slow reaction times shown up big style. No idea why Lovenkrands didn’t come on.

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  • jimiley

    Aug 16, 2010 at 10:45 PM

    Comment #17

    We need a pacy midfield playmaker in the mould of Fabregas (on a free of course Mr Ashley or a 16 year old). If we are looking to Barton to fill that role we are in real trouble. Ship him off to Coventry or the like.

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  • Obafan

    Aug 16, 2010 at 10:46 PM

    Comment #18

    As expected we lost our first game tonight. It looked okay in the first 30 mins, but we have to be honnest by saying that ManU did not have to play good to beat us easily.

    – Harper: nothing to blame
    – Perch: plays above his level I’m afraid; the only signing for who we payed so far looks a CC player at best.
    – Williamson: few mistakes, but overall he had a good game
    – Collo: same as WIlliamson
    – Enrique: played good IMO
    – Routledge: worst player on the pitch. I can’t remember that he gave 1 decent pass
    – Smith: I’ve said it a million times he is not a CDM; he is a striker who didn’t pass his exam!
    – Barton: started well but got a bit lost in the 2nd half
    – Gutierrez: he should bring a lot more; again his passes are so bad
    – Nolan: not worth to be our captain; should not be in the first 11 and defo not as our “2nd” striker
    – Carroll: worked very hard; did better than I expected; but I always keep hearing that he is so good with headers; well if he really is than he should have scored in the 5th minute

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  • G

    Aug 16, 2010 at 10:47 PM

    Comment #19

    Matt @ 15, were you watching the same game? The Harper I watched made 2 excellent saves against Berbatov, and closed down most of the challenges well. The goals that were scored were scored because the other team was better than us.

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  • Martin33

    Aug 16, 2010 at 10:49 PM

    Comment #20

    Cant agree with you jimiley.

    I think barton is our only Middlefielder tonight who has made some contributions to offensive side. He tried to play the right pace but both Jonas and Routledge are absolutely clueless. They must know it is EPL not CCL…they must move and pass wisely

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  • stuart no9

    Aug 16, 2010 at 10:50 PM

    Comment #21

    MAN U WERE NT GREAT WE PLAYED TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY,FROM WHAT WE HAD TO PICK FROM, CANT FAULT THE PLAYERS EFFORT ASH GET YOUR WALLET OUT, WE NEED SOME FIREPOWER UP FRONT IF NOT WE ARE DOWN SIMPLE AS .

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  • Matt

    Aug 16, 2010 at 10:51 PM

    Comment #22

    G

    Harper’s positioning in all the goals was wrong. The scrappy one, I will admit, was immensely difficult to save but his reaction time and response time is very very slow for the premier league now. Why are we not playing Krul or Forster? They’re both taller and technically better goalkeepers who really need to start being pushed forward.

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  • Flop

    Aug 16, 2010 at 10:52 PM

    Comment #23

    I thought Harper was a little at fault for the 1st goal, but it was a good finish. Hope Ashley and that useless owl he employs were paying attention we need players and now. Really hope a deal for Ben Arfa can be done, we need someone to replace Nolan, he just hasn’t got the legs for the PL at least not playing behind the striker.

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  • G

    Aug 16, 2010 at 10:52 PM

    Comment #24

    To be fair Martin 33, I thought our best play came through Jonas. He has no end product, and we knew this before the game kicked off, but he did manage to get the ball out of our half sufficiently to avoid total ‘squeaky bum’ time. Barton did all right in my opinion too, but the porn-tache has to go.

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  • Matt

    Aug 16, 2010 at 10:52 PM

    Comment #25

    Also, Obafan,

    Routledge showed some good moves, good pace and beat a number of much taller players in the air. You’re being pretty harsh on him.

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  • Mac

    Aug 16, 2010 at 10:53 PM

    Comment #26

    One of the advatages about being a geordie living in Liverpool is that i get to go to these games. Firstly who ever had Scholes ion there team was gonna win. A true legend and on of the best players i have ever had the fortune on watching. As for the rest of the team i thought our midfield were atrocious. Nolan Barton and Smith especially Smith did nothing. We just couldn’t keep that ball, Smith tries but he’s just not good enough he really isn’t. williamson looked nervous and gave the ball away at vital times and to be fair, Enrique is my favorite player but to be fair he was at fault for 2 goals.

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  • Matt

    Aug 16, 2010 at 10:54 PM

    Comment #27

    Barton is trying to look like Emre.

    Jonas was our main creative outlet but lacks the final ball.

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  • MonsterMagnet

    Aug 16, 2010 at 10:55 PM

    Comment #28

    Can’t agree with all the criticism of Routledge going on here. He was far more effective than Jonas, who is shown down the line by full backs and still cannot cross with his left foot. Two wingers and a lone striker was a curious choice. Guthrie down the right might have been better – the most consistent crosser of the ball we have (and doesn’t need to beat his man) who also has a good range of passing. We certainly needed his legs today.

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  • G

    Aug 16, 2010 at 10:55 PM

    Comment #29

    Matt, I still say SH is our best keeping option, however, I am all in favour of the other 2 stepping up to the challenge as competition can only be a good thing for us. stuart no9 – CAPS LOCK IS NOT YOUR FRIEND… dick!

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  • stuart no9

    Aug 16, 2010 at 10:56 PM

    Comment #30

    matt
    totally agree, harper looked slow i think the third goal could have been dealt with, i think start looking at krul

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  • NUFC_Richyg01

    Aug 16, 2010 at 10:56 PM

    Comment #31

    I don’t think we disgraced ourselves in any way. O think keeping them to only 3 goals shows how well we did, they have tonked us worse than that when we have fielded stronger sides.

    I think there are some harsh comments on here, there were some good performances tonight and I thought the signs were quite encouraging, at least we managed to play.

    We do need some creativity, and I hope this match highlights where on the park we need it.

    Well played Andy Carroll, Willo and Perch, some signs all three can make good.

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  • Toon1978

    Aug 16, 2010 at 10:57 PM

    Comment #32

    Nothing came in from the left, very little from the right and no class what so ever in midfield. Sadly lacking up front, creativity and a killer instinct up front. Man utd were class in all departments and we are lucky it wasn’t more than 3. Wake up Ashley and spend some money for the sake of the club and the dignity of the fans. Fair enough we can expect to get beaten at Man utd but we could of shown a little more class.

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  • Obafan

    Aug 16, 2010 at 10:57 PM

    Comment #33

    I think we need at least 4 players to strengthen our squad. Oh yes and 4 players who really strengthen our squad not a 13 year old wonderkid or a free agent. Ashley you were there for once proove us that you want to build something good in the north east of England.

    If we get:
    – Ben Arfa (creativity)
    – Arevalo or Fer (finammy a real CDM)
    – a right back
    – Keane or Bellamy (a striker who scores in the EPL)

    I am a bit worried by asking me the question how we are going to score goals.

    Does anybody know where Lovenkrands was/is?

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  • Geordie-Gerrard7

    Aug 16, 2010 at 10:57 PM

    Comment #34

    Carroll, willo and harps class toneet.

    Perch, jonas and routledge awful, the rest were just below mediocre, I’ll take 3-0 away from home against this years prem champs surely, fergie can we borrow scholes?

    Xisco looked alright!!

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  • Martin33

    Aug 16, 2010 at 10:59 PM

    Comment #35

    I see your point G.

    I thought Jonas did better in 2nd half but still poor in the 1st half as I considered. When I saw that Manu put O’Shea in the right back I thought it would be Jonas’ show time but he just wanna move to the central middlefield all over the 1st half. Also, he dribbed too much but lack of offensive. Whatz more, he must take the responsibility for the first goal.

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  • G

    Aug 16, 2010 at 11:00 PM

    Comment #36

    On a lighter note, man of the match had to be the ditch / advertising board combination that took Evra out of the game.

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  • dubzy

    Aug 16, 2010 at 11:01 PM

    Comment #37

    Bellamy signed 4 cardiff so sez a welsh radio station…….

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  • G

    Aug 16, 2010 at 11:04 PM

    Comment #38

    Quite a coup by Cardiff if it’s true dubzy. Is it safe to assume that Bellamy knows his knees are on their way out? The curse of all pacy forwards?

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  • Flop

    Aug 16, 2010 at 11:05 PM

    Comment #39

    The president of Marseille has told French press that the Ben Arfa situation will be resolved in the next 2 days.

    As of late last week, Hatem Ben Arfa (photo-Press Sports) did not participate in the training of Olympique Marseille on Monday. The midfielder – who wants to join Newcastle at all costs – was once again absent from center Robert Louis-Dreyfus. But it seems that the former Lyon is poised to win his showdown with the leaders phocaean.

    According to CMJ, they would be willing to find him a way out. On one condition: that he no longer displays publicly his ill-being, as he did Sunday in the columns of L’Equipe. Asked Monday night by RMC, president of Marseille, Jean-Claude Dassier, said that “in two days maximum, it will be settled. “We will communicate and explain everything then.” Meanwhile, it’s radio silence.

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  • veloso in toon

    Aug 16, 2010 at 11:06 PM

    Comment #40

    lets be realistic no way were we gonna compete at OT. Our season starts at Villa we all know this. Chelsea got beat by Man U 3-1 last wekend and this was in their backyard.
    Positives are CB were good, Fb need to step up their game, carroll was very much involved with better surface will be a nightmare proved his prem quality tonight. Jonas and Routledge need to learn to time runs and pass more.
    Middle of park is worrying as nolan and barton were not the best. Shola did well and xisco looked pacey.

    If we can get Leroy fer and HBA we can compete.

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