Marseilles Manager Deschamps Resigned To Losing Ben Arfa


Marseilles manager Didier Deschamps has had a tough start to the season, after the reigning French Champions suffered a second successive defeat at Valenciennes on Saturday.

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The 3-2 loss followed their opening day defeat at home by a score 2-1 to Caen.

Deschamps told L’Equipe today:

“I’m not worried,” “The urgency is there.”

But as well as the poor start to the season there has been turmoil at the French club, as Mamadou Niang has already left for Fenerbahce and Hatem Ben Arfa seems to be on strike, as he tries to force a move to Newcastle United.

Ben Arfa has also said he will never play for Marseilles again,  and it would seem appropriate if the Marseilles club can bring an end to a transfer that has become farcical over the last several days with both sides – Ben Arfa and Marseilles – not looking particularly classy.

And Deschamps sounds resigned to losing Ben Arfa, despite the club saying last week that he would not be staying with them, which was a reversal of what they had said in July, when they asked the youngster and his representatives to find a new club.

Deschamps talked about Ben Arfa:

“I never said I did not want him,”  “But it is very difficult given his radical position and his attitude.” “I think a lot of him. He has talent, but still some weaknesses. I wish him the best for his career.”

“I have spent a lot of time talking to Hatem, and told him many things.” “Some of it he has remembered, some of it not.” “Last Thursday he refused to speak to me, so it may be for the best.”

The time is now for both Marseilles and Newcastle to agree a deal to send the 23 year-old to Newcastle on a season long loan deal to Tyneside, and we have hopes this will be completed within the next few days.

The time to end this saga is now – for the good of all three parties involved.

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25 comments so far

  • richie

    Aug 16, 2010 at 11:05 AM

    Comment #1

    tbh i don’t even read all the media ho har anymore. when they’re signed i will get excited.

    i just hope we don’t get ripped apart tonight. but the recent thrashings at the hands of manure are still fresh in my mind!

    lets hope the lads can put in a decent shift and come away with some confidence still intact.

    this isn’t the kind of game that will decide our season, so let’s not get too carried away if we get hammered.

    that’s about as much of a war cry as i can muster right now.

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  • chris6033

    Aug 16, 2010 at 11:06 AM

    Comment #2

    lets pay the club the fee involved, and get Ben Arfa in a toon shirt asap. he fits the bill of talent we need and isnt going to lose any value. so surely its a win win situation?

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  • Solaidback

    Aug 16, 2010 at 11:07 AM

    Comment #3

    I think the real reason L’OM don’t want to send him on loan to us for a season & want us to buy him outright is because they know what he’s like & if after the season is over, we’ve had enough of his attitude, then we’ll not buy him & send him back but they won’t want him back as they’ll get stick with him until his contract run out due to his attitude 🙂

    Personaly I think he’ll do the biz in the PL & then once we’ve paid the £5m next summer, someone like Manc Ali Citey or Chelski will offer us £?? amount for him & Ashley will sell him on 🙁

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  • carl nufc

    Aug 16, 2010 at 11:07 AM

    Comment #4

    I hope tonights result does not make Ben Arfa think twice about joining us…

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  • G

    Aug 16, 2010 at 11:11 AM

    Comment #5

    I would much rather get HBA on loan than pay a decent amount of wedge for a permenant transfer. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t doubt his ability, although I am yet to be convinced his game will suit the prem, but that’s only because comparing the prem to the french league is a difficult thing to do. I would just rather have the option of ‘first dibs’ or ‘best go home son’ on any player with a reputation for attitude.

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  • GeordieToon89

    Aug 16, 2010 at 11:11 AM

    Comment #6

    Ooo that darmachef whatever his name the sky sports news transfer dude has just says that newcastle also want craig bellamy back 🙂

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  • GeordieToon89

    Aug 16, 2010 at 11:13 AM

    Comment #7

    off subject but well its bellers :]]

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  • carl nufc

    Aug 16, 2010 at 11:16 AM

    Comment #8

    i would take the horrible little Welsh t**t in a heartbeat

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  • Solaidback

    Aug 16, 2010 at 11:20 AM

    Comment #9

    Well if Bellend is ‘blacklisted’ by Mancini & the club, isn’t he free to go where ever he likes??

    Not sure eh’d want to come back to us when teams like Cardiff, Fulham, Celtic & the Spurts are after him tho!!! lol 🙂

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  • geordielad880

    Aug 16, 2010 at 11:22 AM

    Comment #10

    newcastle have only enquired about bellamy on loan, man city want to sell him, the only 2 clubs that have put money on the table are fulham and sunderland, so guess unless anyone else comes in, he will go to one of them 2, stoke have also enquired, but cant see that one really

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  • Malaysia-RASHID

    Aug 16, 2010 at 11:27 AM

    Comment #11

    can someone tell me about the loan signing of HBA? is there any option we can buy him after loan ended.

    what will happen if our new lads (HBA) make some shocking to other big club which make them wants to sign this lads after loan end? do you all think we can have HBA permanent?

    hoping someone can explain to me about this matter…sory for my bad English.

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  • balubas1

    Aug 16, 2010 at 11:31 AM

    Comment #12

    My wish right now is to see Ben Arfa succeed in Newcastle. I want to see that kid smile for once as he is applauded out when substituted for Routledge after scoring 2 in a wonderful game against Sunderland.

    IF we get this one, we need to stay behind him all they way even if he gets lost in some solo attempts.

    Opening night at Old Trafford 2night.. crossing my fingers. All I demand is a decent performance. We must not forget where we are at the moment.

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  • GeordieToon89

    Aug 16, 2010 at 11:32 AM

    Comment #13

    its only £2million anall suerly we can offord that then giv him a 3 year contract which he’l be 34 at the end and probably retiring but after those 3 years he would of made us more money by getting uz up the league maybe even europe league in 2 years with a couple more good signings

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  • G

    Aug 16, 2010 at 11:32 AM

    Comment #14

    @ post 11. From what little actual news has come out, we haven’t signed him, and also, if we talk to him without the permission of his club we could be in the brown stuff. Hoping something will come out soon. Also, don’t worry about the bad English, most of the posters on here are native Geordie’s and we can bearly speak English.

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  • geordielad880

    Aug 16, 2010 at 11:34 AM

    Comment #15

    malaysia-rashid

    Newcastle are looking to sign HBA on loan for the season with the view to signing him for 5-6m on a permanent deal at the end of the season.

    Its still at a stalemate at the minute, from what I have heard, olympic marseille wont allow him to go out on loan, until they find a replacement, I think if the deal is going to go ahead, it will be concluded before the aston villa game.

    Ben arfa has refused to play for marseille again, and is willing to miss the whole season, the marseille manager and president have both said they are now willing to negotiate, to allow HBA to join newcastle

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  • tynesidetommo

    Aug 16, 2010 at 11:35 AM

    Comment #16

    Double trouble or wot. Who would want to manage Arfa and Bellers? Not me. But watching them both rip apart defences with their combined pace and guile – yes please. Can’t see it happening though.

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  • GeordieToon89

    Aug 16, 2010 at 11:35 AM

    Comment #17

    oh well a cant see him going to sland cos he says he loves the newcastle fans and newcastle itself so a think them are out of the question, fulham on the other hand he said he played his best football under hughes(and bobby) so maybe he will go ther but tottenham is his preferred choice but city wont let him

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  • GeordieToon89

    Aug 16, 2010 at 11:37 AM

    Comment #18

    Also from what ive read this morning then didier dechamps has basically said his goodbye to HBA
    ‘i wish him all the best in his career’ ‘maybe its for the best’
    so hopefully ther will be some movement on this transfer today or tomorrow as im getting sick of all the talk and no action

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  • geordielad880

    Aug 16, 2010 at 11:37 AM

    Comment #19

    geordietoon89, they are asking for 6m for him, not 2m, we couldnt afford that, we are only trying to get him on loan, ashley would never sanction a perm for him at his age, the only reason he allowed the campbell tranfer at his age, was because its only short term (1 year) so there is very little risk, if we signed bellamy it would be 2-3 years, and he has a bad injury record

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  • Malaysia-RASHID

    Aug 16, 2010 at 11:41 AM

    Comment #20

    geordielad880 & G

    thanks for your information.. you all rock..
    HWL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • greekgeordie

    Aug 16, 2010 at 11:51 AM

    Comment #21

    If Marseille needs a replacement before let HBA I am sure Ameobi will be perfect for the French league? as for Bellamy I would rather have him on our side with all his baggage than playing against us on the Mackems team.
    CH has not made any comments on any new arrivals and this is a good thing.
    Anything from tonight’s game will be a bonus including a good performance, but I am sure that we will treat the game as a shut shop case and hope to get them on the break.

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  • Solaidback

    Aug 16, 2010 at 11:55 AM

    Comment #22

    Seems Rooney may not play tonite due to hamstring strain…. not sure if thats a good or bad thing, especially the way he’s playing at the moment 🙂
    They have Owen & that new mexican players viaing for up front, lets hope it Owen & Colo can break his legs for him…. did anyone see that quote of his, that since his move to Manc Usa, he’s now back in love with football….. saying that when he was with us, he didn’t love football…. he was only here for the money, the mercenary!!!

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  • GeordieToon89

    Aug 16, 2010 at 11:56 AM

    Comment #23

    oh sorry geordielad880, i thought i read 2million i must have read it wrong, neh i wouldnt pay 6million for bellers no matter how good he is hes 31 yrs old now so meh leave it unless we can get him on loan which i doubt

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  • GeordieToon89

    Aug 16, 2010 at 11:58 AM

    Comment #24

    its all a load of tosh about rooney everytime we seem to play them hes injured before hand and he always manages to start and finish while smashing a couple in inbetween, bar last time we played them.. but he wont tonight wor joey is guna marshall him out the game and jonas n routy are goin to have stormers and carroll is going to score 2 :]

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  • JSYproject

    Aug 16, 2010 at 1:34 PM

    Comment #25

    at least with the way hes goin on other clubs wont be tempted to try and hi jack the deal, no one wants someone like that at their club, which makes me question our own interest in all honesty…

    no one can doubt the lads skill but the attitude is all to familiar, especially since nzogbia’s at it again at wigan.

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