One thing that was very clear to all Newcastle fans last night is that the Newcastle club just don’t have enough class in the side to do very well this season.
Chris Hughton – help this man out – please!
That’s the bad news – the good news is that there are still a full two weeks to go to the end of the transfer window, and if Newcastle are not going to be in another desperate relegation fight this season, the club must bring in at least three new players at the very least.
The difference in class between the two sides last night was enormous, and maybe even bigger than some of us thought – and there’s just no way without good new players coming in, that we’ll have a chance against the top 8 clubs in the Premier League.
Owner Mike Ashley and Derek Llambias were seen at the game last night, and they will have noticed the vast difference in class also, so maybe Mike will be encouraged to give Chris as much money as he can spare from the club’s coffers in the next couple of weeks, to get a few good players through the door.
After all it’s within his best interests that Newcastle survive the season.
We know the club is trying to bring in some new players, and as we noted yesterday we have been linked with as many as 5 new players – and on last night’s performance we should bring in all five!
Chris said after the game the club is trying to bring in reinforcements, and this is what he said:
“We have said that we need to strengthen the squad and we are confident we will do that,”
“I know where we are as a football club (in terms of funds). We’re no different from a lot of clubs in that what we bring in must fit in the financial structure.”
OK – we understand that by now, but we still need, at the very least, three new players.
Let’s try to get two of them in on loan – otherwise for the second successive Premier League season our beloved club will struggle mightily in the top level of English football.
And none of us want to go through that again.
Comments welcome.
81 comments so far
Geordiedoonsooth
Aug 17, 2010 at 9:53 AM
Comment #1Speculate to acummulate get your cash out Fat Ash
derekm
Aug 17, 2010 at 9:57 AM
Comment #2here we go – this season was NEVER going to be about trying to be at the same level as Manu on their own park – most of our rivals to survive this year will get outplayed exactly if not worse than we did, some will roll over badly, which we did’nt.
We WILL get the better players in, and why we did’nt give vuckic a run when the second went in I don’t understand.
Ameobi – hells bells that’s a poor player and no mistake.
murvar
Aug 17, 2010 at 9:58 AM
Comment #3Rubbish. So you want us to desperately buy 2nd rate [players on inflated wages in the forlorn hope of competing straight away with the likes of Man U and Chelsea? That’s what got us into this mess in the first place. Calm down and don’t panic. Our benchmark group is not the top 4 – yet. It’s Birmingham, Fulham and the Mackems, like it or not.
Mags
Aug 17, 2010 at 9:59 AM
Comment #4Unfortunately Ed, the one thing our owner has done up to date, is watch the team and that has not made one jot of difference.
We all know he is trying to get the club into a position where it is a more attractable proposition to a prospective buyer and he is prepared to gamble on spending as little as possible in the hope with finish 17th this season.
Milzzy Rascal
Aug 17, 2010 at 10:05 AM
Comment #5Yeah but every man and his wife knew that we didn’t have enough quality and creativity before the season kicked off. The SKY league is a totally different animal and as we found out last night if you give the ball away you will be punished be it Man Utd or Wigan (no disrespect). Our issue was when things got tough we didn’t have anyone to put their foot on the ball and slow it down. Nolan was absolutely shocking last night he looked unfit and lost.
It is true that we shouldn’t panic yet but by the same token if we don’t put a bit money into this team we’re in deep trouble 900k spend is simply not enough
dashu9
Aug 17, 2010 at 10:07 AM
Comment #6As I had said .. A striker, a holding midfielder and a good central defender is what we need.
Considering yesterday’s defeat how many of you think Ben Arfa would prefer coming to SJP??
Teamstoof
Aug 17, 2010 at 10:07 AM
Comment #7I think we are in much better shape than the last 10 matches we played in PL.
Manure is not any team we expect to get points from. Wait and se how the next three matches goes befor judjing our tema. have faith in the maigthy CHRIS:)
YANICK MALTA NUFC
Aug 17, 2010 at 10:09 AM
Comment #8We defenitly needs a creative midfielder ………..
IMO Tavarnier is our best full back and is much better than Perch so he should be givven a chance ……..
After the 1-0 yesterday the game was already lost for NUFC so players like RANGER & VUCKIC should have be given some minutes
XISCO shoud never been in our 16 players ………
Stuart
Aug 17, 2010 at 10:16 AM
Comment #9Why is everyone so defeatist? Picking up a 3-0 loss at old trafford in our first game back in the premiership. Would you expect blackpool, west brom or even wigan or sunderland to do any better?
Adssy Mccc
Aug 17, 2010 at 10:16 AM
Comment #10My God!!!!
I hope Routledge ups his performances because if he continues to simply give the ball back to the other team like that you can see exactly why he’s never really made it in the top league!
The amount of times he picked the ball up and either passed it straight to one of their players or tried a basic ‘knock and run’ which led to Man U simply collecting the ball of his toes, was absolutely disgusting!!
Maybe he just had an off night? At least I hope so because he was one of the players everyone keeps saying is one of our main men for survival.
Other than that – i thought everyone played okay and were just outclassed by a collectivly stronger team. (apart from Nolan, who was also giving the ball away at every opportunity)
cally8793
Aug 17, 2010 at 10:16 AM
Comment #11It’s 18 players, and I thought Xisco looked pretty good when he came on. Nolan was linking up well in the first half, but was knackered by the second half and probably should have been replaced earlier. It was class when Routledge took on 3 Man U players at once, and at one point it took 4 Man U players to get the ball off Jose and Jonas. At times it looked encouraging, and let’s face it, we had a lot of injuries last night.
MrT76
Aug 17, 2010 at 10:17 AM
Comment #12Can someone please assure me that the rumour I’ve heard about Man u lodging a bid for Vuckic is a load of crap. Granted I got the rumour from football-rumours.com like, but it doesn’t stop me from being concerned.
GeordieTartanArmy
Aug 17, 2010 at 10:19 AM
Comment #13@ YANICK MALTA NUFC
I can tell your from malta because you have have no sense when looking at our team.
Xisco didnt get much of a chance last night and when he did, he was decent – there is some class in him
Carrol needed the full ninety to try and ajust to pl football so that he can try and live up to the number 9 expectations
Perch was far too amateur playing at the back and if he is too inexperienced to deal with nani then I cannot see Tav dealing very well with him
Xisco has something in him so just give him a chance and be patient with our youth – vuckic, ranger and tav will all get their chance
Ericles
Aug 17, 2010 at 10:23 AM
Comment #14When the analysis by the pundits on Sky before the match accurately described CH’s tactics – nowt but predictability. Man Utd knew how we would line up and play before we even pulled shirts and boots on. Man Utd were not good last night but theystill had flair, imagination and flow. We must have intelligent, imaginative and quality players with pace and skill – like we used to have. Money has got to be invested by that obese barrow boy who has the gall to think he can run a club like NUFC let alone own it. It was obvious last night that Lovenkrands was missing from the line-up. Looks like we need Fer asap and Arfa. CH is too predictable – lets have some flair, some bravado, some of the guts and pride that made NUFc one of the greatest clubs in England. If not Ashley will wax even fatter and CH will bore us to death.
geordielad880
Aug 17, 2010 at 10:29 AM
Comment #15YANICK MALTA NUFC
tavernier is our best full back???
how do you come to that conclusion? he had played a tiny bit in pre-season, have you watched him at youth level? or reserves? he is worse than perch and that takes some doing, only difference is he is young and inexperienced, if steven taylor was fit i would put him at right back.
davybtoon
Aug 17, 2010 at 10:34 AM
Comment #16typical over reaction i was expecting from people its manu for gods sake are season is not gonna be determind by what we do against the top 6 teams its the rest we have to beat, man u scored 3 past chelsea last week so how so people can go on like they are, we played well 3 mistakes for the goals which we need to cut out, n we need to b more clinical in the final third, they had double the possession but they only had 12 attempts we had 8, 4 each on target, n how r people slating xisco he was positive when he came on did no worse than jonas
geordielad880
Aug 17, 2010 at 10:35 AM
Comment #17We dont need to spend much cash, we could bring in:-
luke young 1.5m
Ben arfa loan
Pennant loan- bit of a risk but a good player, and great crosser.
leroy fer-5m if we could afford it, even the above 3 would be enough without leroy.
Doha Mag
Aug 17, 2010 at 10:35 AM
Comment #18The 3-o loss was predictable and so was our team plan. Was surprized to see such a weak bench so early on the season which does not bode well unless we bring in minimum 5 new faces…..
Please lay off Perch as Nani is a class winger and Routeledge did not offer a lot as cover. I think Perch will be a decent squad player as he’s young, fast and will improve with PL experience.
Keep the faith as were not likely to gain points from the top 6~8 PL clubs but should win or draw against the lesser teams……
geordielad880
Aug 17, 2010 at 10:36 AM
Comment #19davybtoon i agree xisco wasnt bad when he come on, no worse than jonas, who was terrible, and cost us a goal when he gave it away on the edge of the box, nolans pass didnt help much though
davybtoon
Aug 17, 2010 at 10:37 AM
Comment #20i think perch got abit of hard deal last nyt, he kept getting pulled into the cb position which left us exposed at rb but anyone whos knows about football could c that was happening because are cm werent tracking the runs of there cm so he was comin across to cover that
geordielad880
Aug 17, 2010 at 10:38 AM
Comment #21Doha mag, lay off perch, i seen him plenty before newcastle signed him, everyone goes on about when we played forest, how good he was, that is one game, he was shocking in every other game i have seen him, we should have got gunter off them instead, alot better right back
pdaya7x
Aug 17, 2010 at 10:40 AM
Comment #22We were never an attacking threat, it seemed as though we were playing for a draw even from the offset, teams like Man U can be beaten and however unlikely it was that we were going to beat them at least giving it a go as CH said pre match would have been nice.
Carroll upfront will just not cut it in this league not on his own, he’s a good quality CF but if no one else is willing to chance it up top with him, it becomes a bit of a waste.
Perch looked out of his depth to me, not at all easy on the easy whenever he had/tried to take the ball, Enrique was a shadow of himself from last year.
All in all gutting as it we went without a wimper just like when we got relegated against Villa.
However as people have been saying we cannot gauge ourselves against a team like Man U this season, its in comparable.
maltese NUFC
Aug 17, 2010 at 10:40 AM
Comment #23I would like to make a couple of points about yesterdays match.
In all honesty it’s what i expected, man utd having the majority of possesion and us trying to close down spaces.
It was always going to be a damage limitation exercise…they are a world class team, and we are a MID-Table team with a small squad hampered with injuries.
But I have to say that the boys stood up and gave a good account of themselves,our team has to stop making those silly mistakes like jonas in the first goal and jose inthe 3rd.
The system we played yesterday is the system that CH willplay in the majority of games. I t gives protection to the back four, and if used properly is can be avery efficient when attacking. it is the same system jose mourinhio used with Inter Milan last season.
there is no question we need more players, it is not a question of numbers…the more the merrier. you just have to look at the two benhces yesterday to see the differnece
we shouldnt be to disheartened, i think we shall be ok, I was impressed with williamson, carroll, smith and jose yesterday.
enrique was up against one of the best wingers in the EPL and i cant remeber valencia delivering a good cross.
and another point of encouragment is the following, it is true that he got three goals but I dont recall him making any more saves, which means only 1 things that we restricted them to efforts from outside the box and closed them down well.
keep the faith
nufc for life
pdaya7x
Aug 17, 2010 at 10:40 AM
Comment #24easy on the eyes*
andrewc
Aug 17, 2010 at 10:42 AM
Comment #25I wasn’t expecting us to get anything against Man Utd. Why? Because it’s Man Utd. And it’s at Old Trafford. No one gets a result at Old Trafford. I hoped for a ‘performance’ and maybe a goal, but that was it.
I think our players were naive at times and got too excited. Routledge made some good runs but had no one to pass to, Jonas had good possession but then did nothing with it and tried taking everyone on. A few times the players tried playing their way out of danger and lost the ball, when a boot up field would have been better. Carroll should have scored, and we had just as many shots on target as Man Utd did. It wasn’t a hugely disappointing performance, with the exception of Perch.
geordielad880
Aug 17, 2010 at 10:43 AM
Comment #26“The system we played yesterday is the system that CH willplay in the majority of games. I t gives protection to the back four, and if used properly is can be avery efficient when attacking. it is the same system jose mourinhio used with Inter Milan last season”
* difference is mourinho understands tactics, hughton hasnt got a clue what tactics are at this level, but im just going to get behind the lads, and see where we are in 6-8 games time
geordielad880
Aug 17, 2010 at 10:45 AM
Comment #27Andrewc
“It wasn’t a hugely disappointing performance, with the exception of Perch”
he is one of the worst full backs i have seen in newcastles history
geordielad880
Aug 17, 2010 at 10:46 AM
Comment #28he doesnt understand how to play he offside trap, the other 3 step up and he drops back, and plays everyone onside, he is rash in the tackle, gets caught massively out of position all the time, i would have played r.taylor right wing, to help track back, and help perch out a little
maltese NUFC
Aug 17, 2010 at 10:53 AM
Comment #29gordielad880
the tactic is the same for every manager, it how the players apply it on the pitch.
If CH gets sacked after 6-8games you should throw your apllication to become NUFC’s gaffer since you are such an expert in the managing.
remeber that CH pulled us out of trouble when nobody believed in us, stop moaning about this and that and support the club
pringle9
Aug 17, 2010 at 11:02 AM
Comment #30I always expected us to get beat but wayne routledge was awful he gave the ball away pretty much everytime he got it. He was one of man u’s best players.
James Perch also looked way out of his depth i thought nani ran rings around him maybe after a few games he will find his feet and i hope so.
where was guthrie and lovenkrands last night?
Phil K
Aug 17, 2010 at 11:02 AM
Comment #31Come on Chris, we need strengthening.
Phil K
Aug 17, 2010 at 11:04 AM
Comment #32I hope poor Perch doesn’t become a target, a hate figure. Come on, man. The lads just starting and is young. He’ll learn.
Yes, I have major doubts too
But lets not single him out.
geordielad880
Aug 17, 2010 at 11:09 AM
Comment #33maltese Nufc aka muppet head
I didnt say hughton should be sacked if things dont improve in 6-8 games, i mean im going to reserve judgement until after 6-8 games, until we play sides around us, then we will see how we are doing, i dont think hughton is the right man for the job, he has done alot for newcastle, but it done my head in the interview before the match, he made such a big thing about players cant be nervous and have to think they can get something out of the match or they might aswell not turn up, well his interview was about as downbeat as it could be, he should have been saying its 11 men against 11 men, we can get something, other sides have!
And maltese i do football coaching, so i do have a fair idea about tactics etc, well more than you anyways
geordielad880
Aug 17, 2010 at 11:10 AM
Comment #34phil K i think perch is woeful, but i will always get behind all the lads once they pull on a toon shirt, boeing your own players, like some fans done with bramble is disgraceful
callie9
Aug 17, 2010 at 11:11 AM
Comment #35geordielad880.
How the f*ck can you call Perch one of the worst full backs in our history based on one competitive game – his first competitive game for us – which was away at man u. I mean for crying out loud, can you not even comprehend the pathetic idiocy of that comment? No wonder the majority of our fans are deluded when they have opinions like yours.
arcarius
Aug 17, 2010 at 11:11 AM
Comment #36Chris needs to take a gamble on Krul instead of playing Harper for the upcoming matches.
No doubt, theres nothing much Harper can do about the goals last night, but I think Krul is the better choice for now. Age is on his side and he has the talent to make it for it, just like joe hart.
Harps just seem nervy at times with slow reflexes
geordielad880
Aug 17, 2010 at 11:14 AM
Comment #37forster is a better keeper than krul by a long way, commands his box more, and is better on crosses, and has more experience
Novocastrians
Aug 17, 2010 at 11:34 AM
Comment #38We were utter shite and i just wonder if CH really can hack it in the PL, when he plays XISCO, or SHOLA , what was our gameplan ??
Didn’t look like we had one, we wont even get passed Blackpool if we play like that, at least 4 good players needed or we will be f****d 🙁
geordielad880
Aug 17, 2010 at 11:36 AM
Comment #39callie9 im not basing it on one match you fuc*ing idiot, i have seen him play in about 15 matches, he looked terrible for forest over the last 2 seasons for them, ask any forest fan, they will tell you, he is barely a fizzy player, i said that before we signed him, look back at my posts, im not deluded, i wont say a player is good if he is shite mate, your the one who is deluded, how can a player who was rubbish at fizzy level be good enough for the prem? he had one good game against us, calderwood was the one that got hughton to sign him, and calderwood got sacked from forest! we paid nearly 2m for him, we could have got luke young for that money for gods sake, a proven right back
sweendog
Aug 17, 2010 at 11:36 AM
Comment #40doom mongers .. yep we got beat .. but we got beat at old trafford .. how many times do other teams win there in a season .. get a grip ..
I thought we played ok .. tried to nullify them but it didn’t work .. enrique was good .. williamson, collo .. routledge did try hard .. the only negatives I can see are.. perch being a bit rusty and gutierrez becoming a headless chicken again .. but after 1 game its hard to judge