Newcastle In Shock Move For Shay Given


News today that Newcastle are considering a shock move to bring back their former goalkeeper Shay Given to Tyneside on loan.

Shay Given – while at Newcastle for 12 years

While the Tyneside club still don’t know how long Steve Harper will be out, after being stretchered off with a shoulder injury on Saturday, if it’s going to be two months or so, it leaves Newcastle with only Ole Soderberg as back up to Tim Krul, and if Tim gets injured that would be a problem.

And Chris Hughton is unable to call back Frazer Forster from his loan at Celtic, so the news is that Hughton is ready to ask City to let them borrow Given until Harper recovers.

But hey, what happens to Tim Krul if this news is true?

The 22 year-old has waited patiently for his chance on Tyneside, and should be given that chance while Steve Harper recovers, and what we need is an experienced back-up to Tim, should he be injured.

If Newcastle bring in Shay Given on loan, it would be a terrible statement to the youngsters at Newcastle, that they will not be given their chance, and we cannot believe this story is completely true.

If it is then young Tim will not be happy at all, and we wouldn’t blame him.

What Newcastle may be doing is since Shay is now on the bench at the Eastlands club, presumably now number two behind new England goalkeeper Joe Hart, they may be enquiring about Shay should Tim Krul be injured.

And if  Tim is injured then Shay could come in for the next game, and play until Tim and/or Steve are fit again.  That would make some sense.

But the future at Newcastle is now Tim Krul and not Shay Given, and that’s no slight on Shay, who was tremendous for the Newcastle club for 12 years and 468 games.

Comments welcome.



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57 comments so far

  • munch27

    Sep 20, 2010 at 9:52 AM

    Comment #1

    Ed i usually agree with you but not this time , this is the most important season in 18 years and altho tim is top class youngster he’s still too unsure of himself , hence i’d rather have an old head between the sticks for this crucial period.

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  • Angryman the Angry fan

    Sep 20, 2010 at 9:59 AM

    Comment #2

    Money grabbers unwelcome!

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  • newcastle29

    Sep 20, 2010 at 9:59 AM

    Comment #3

    can someone tell me how this would happen with transfer window closed? emergency loan?

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  • munch27

    Sep 20, 2010 at 10:04 AM

    Comment #4

    No3 we will have too ask the PL for dispensation too sign him as we only have one keeper.

    No2 Shay never left for money he left because it seemed Fat Mike was trying too wreck the club , i think Shay may see things differently now.

    I would have Shay back in a heart beat.

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  • okkurtgarvilt

    Sep 20, 2010 at 10:05 AM

    Comment #5

    given had his chance, he left and lets move on…give krul a chance, he has deserved it!

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  • nufcant

    Sep 20, 2010 at 10:06 AM

    Comment #6

    Yeah they’ll ask the premiere league for permission and if it’s granted they can approach city. Wouldn’t his wages be ridiculous though?

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  • Toon Sweden77

    Sep 20, 2010 at 10:07 AM

    Comment #7

    Keep the transfer windows shut!

    Step up King Krul!

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  • punk skunk...

    Sep 20, 2010 at 10:11 AM

    Comment #8

    Haddaway shay!..
    Don’t come back…

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  • rkw

    Sep 20, 2010 at 10:19 AM

    Comment #9

    Gentlemen (and ladies if there are any),
    Let’s be pragmatic here. If Shay Given is available (which he is) and he’s willing to come here (which he seems to be) then CH would be seriously daft to dismiss him outright. I think Tim is ready to be THE man in net for us, but what if he goes down with injury, or suspension some time in the next few months?

    I say the way this should play out is that we bring in Given, if he’ll agree that he isn’t coming in to take the starting spot. Like everyone else he can earn it, and then it’s Tim’s to keep or lose.

    But what I can’t abide is dismissing a GK as good as Given outright based on some ridiculousness. These men are professionals, let’s treat them as such.

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  • G

    Sep 20, 2010 at 10:19 AM

    Comment #10

    Perhaps it would be ironic if we could sign him as understudy to TK? On a serious note, I don’t bear any grudge against SG, and I would have him back. He went through a lot of rough periods with us, and was often linked with bigger clubs which he always denied he had any interest in. He didn’t owe us anything in my opinion, when we were relegated I think his transfer request was a reasonable enough request. I would have him back, but not for a long term solution.

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  • Mags

    Sep 20, 2010 at 10:20 AM

    Comment #11

    I actually think we do need an experienced goalie to back up Krul.

    How abouttrying for Chelsea’s No 3 choice i.e. Turnbull, to me that would make sense.

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  • Mags

    Sep 20, 2010 at 10:22 AM

    Comment #12

    G your thoughts on Given understudy to Krul, now that really IS Chutzpah. 😀

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  • Ericles

    Sep 20, 2010 at 10:22 AM

    Comment #13

    An odd scenario this one. What is the situation with Forster? Can Krul cope with being promoted so suddenly? How will Soderberg cope with suddenly being made number 2 choise? We need an experienced keeper and Shay would be ideal. And let us not forget – CH seemed to consider which of Krul or Forster would be loaned anyway.
    I reckon Shay would jump at the chance to help us out and bring his kids back to Tyneside for the days out.

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  • G

    Sep 20, 2010 at 10:25 AM

    Comment #14

    Mags @ 12. Thanks… I think?

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  • Mags

    Sep 20, 2010 at 10:30 AM

    Comment #15

    G @ 14 – our are welcome 😀

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  • HATEMackems BEN ARFA

    Sep 20, 2010 at 10:34 AM

    Comment #16

    Made his bed he must lie in it. people shouting from rooftops how krul is better than harper and should be allowed a chance to prove it, then when he is they say he’s not ready and want someone who jumped ship back because his dream move turned sour. get him back by all means but on the bench as cover 🙂

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  • HATEMackems BEN ARFA

    Sep 20, 2010 at 10:36 AM

    Comment #17

    if you seriously think he wuld leave man citys bench to not be guaranteed a starting spot then you are deluded. leave him where he is.

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  • sirjasontoon

    Sep 20, 2010 at 10:40 AM

    Comment #18

    no thanks-Give Tim his chance.

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  • HATEMackems BEN ARFA

    Sep 20, 2010 at 10:56 AM

    Comment #19

    @10. when we were relegated his transfer request was a reasonable enough request ?????? we weren’t relegated when he left, still far from it. fair enough he owes us nothing, but equally we the fans and the club owe him nothing. people seem to forget a lot of the seasons he played for us we were a highflying club in europe and the champions league regularly. he was hardly “doing us a favour” by staying during those seasons.

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  • WesJameson

    Sep 20, 2010 at 10:57 AM

    Comment #20

    As far as i’m concerned Shay, the traitor,back stabbing, money grabbing S.O.B is NOT WELCOME, stay in fekking Manc land FFS, F@#$ OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • loothas

    Sep 20, 2010 at 11:01 AM

    Comment #21

    I dont know if you guys have actually seen Tim Krul play….. He IS NOT ready to play in the Premier League. I said last year he should have bin given a chance but it was to be Harper. you can talk about loyalty all you want but Smithys bin dropped for Tiote ( rightly so) and Jonas for Ben arfa ( rightly so) if we had the chance to get Shay back, then I’m sorry but Krul should be droppedbecause he’s not good enough unfortunately.

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  • HATEMackems BEN ARFA

    Sep 20, 2010 at 11:04 AM

    Comment #22

    I will go along with whatever hughton decides. he has eaerned that right.

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  • balubas1

    Sep 20, 2010 at 11:05 AM

    Comment #23

    LOL !!!!! who’s calling shay a traitor? Dont you know how much sh*t he’s been through with NUFC? The relegation was a climax of the SH*TSTORM we have been through for a decade! The club looked like it was a new Leeds ffs…

    Shay is class, but I believe Krul should be given the chance. Anyhow.. if he comes..welcome. If not.. ok for me.

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  • nden85

    Sep 20, 2010 at 11:06 AM

    Comment #24

    biggest load of newspaper made-up ballacks of all time. there is no way we are getting given and if we do, tim krul would have every right to demand a transfer (but its not going to happen anyway, so he won’t)

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  • Reshad

    Sep 20, 2010 at 11:26 AM

    Comment #25

    To me this is a bit like have a fantastic young girlfriend who could be the best thing that’s happened to you. However, the ex-wife, who you still have feelings for, comes back into the picture after her dalliance with the rich bloke who never really loved her hits the rocks. She wants a brief fling, for old times sake, to make herself feel wanted again…but why risk upsetting and losing the younger hot model for a trip down memory lane?

    Love Shay…but know that Tim is the future.

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  • Davies

    Sep 20, 2010 at 11:28 AM

    Comment #26

    I think Tim Krul has enough to play at this level. He’s done an excellent job every time he’s been called upon.

    We have (probably) Holland’s next keeper available to us. Let’s use him.

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  • benscott123123

    Sep 20, 2010 at 11:29 AM

    Comment #27

    Givens decision to leave was fair enough I have nothing against him but i don’t think bringing him back would be right. His wages will have probably doubled and Krul has proven himself when called upon in the past. I agree with Mags the likes of Turnbull on a 3 or 6 month loan deal would be a better option to play as a number 2

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  • benscott123123

    Sep 20, 2010 at 11:29 AM

    Comment #28

    would not be right**

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  • NUFC_Richyg01

    Sep 20, 2010 at 11:29 AM

    Comment #29

    Shay has gone, we need to move on – Bringing him back would only be a step backwards in my opinion – He made a big deal of joining City so let him rot on their bench, obviously he is not as good as he thought.

    Krul needs to be given the chance to step up, and, as shown on Saturday, he will step up when needed.

    Forster is doing well at Celtic, and it makes no sence to call him back because he will drop to third choice one Steve is fit again.

    I have no problem having Ole has back up for Tim, all players have to start somewhere, and by all accounts he is another sound keeper.

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  • slazberger

    Sep 20, 2010 at 11:30 AM

    Comment #30

    why do people keep mentioning when we were relegated? shay left in the January.

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  • loothas

    Sep 20, 2010 at 11:32 AM

    Comment #31

    @Reshad

    I tip my hat at thee! 🙂

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  • Ericles

    Sep 20, 2010 at 11:32 AM

    Comment #32

    Still in two minds on this one. I do not doubt that Krul could do for us well given his chance. He is after all on the Dutch international scene even if not yet a full international. However – while unlucky Harper is out we now need good cover for Krul. Will Forster be happy sitting on the bench as cover for Krul whilst he has the opportunity to play on loan for Celtic? If Krul is given the go ahead while Steve is out it means Sodeberg understudy’s Krul. This is what I believe CH has to think about.

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  • slazberger

    Sep 20, 2010 at 11:37 AM

    Comment #33

    good analogy Reshad, reminds me of ian holloway.

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  • Ericles

    Sep 20, 2010 at 11:38 AM

    Comment #34

    On reflection – give Krul and Soderberg their chances now. They are part of our loyal and up and coming black and white (OK, I know goalies wear different jerseys!) so let them step up to the plate. Reshad could be right – a second bite at the cherry no matter how seductive could end up in the clinic!

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  • WesJameson

    Sep 20, 2010 at 11:58 AM

    Comment #35

    Exactly @ slazberger // Sep 20, 2010 at 11:30 AM

    Lets not kid ourselves here Lads, if Shay hadn’t of left in January, there IS a possibility we wouldn’t have been relegated, and if someone comes back and says ” No ways, there is no chance he would have been able to help us stay up” WELL THEN WHY THE F@#$ would we want him now, as Davies // Sep 20, 2010 at 11:28 AM says…….we have potentially the next Holland keeper FFS

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  • Matthew Tom

    Sep 20, 2010 at 11:59 AM

    Comment #36

    I don’t think we should be looking for an emergency replacement unless Krul gets injured and we find ourselves relying on Soderberg only. Krul has waited patiently for this opportunity and should be given his chance to shine now that it’s come along.

    If we do end up needing an emergency loan, it should only be when we’re down to 1 keeper and I hope that’s the basis of any talks with Man City about Shay Given. I think it would be very unfair to Krul and also very likely to make him leave if he is not trusted to do his job at this point, as would be clearly indicated by a loan for Shay straight away.

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  • WesJameson

    Sep 20, 2010 at 12:00 PM

    Comment #37

    @ Reshad // Sep 20, 2010 at 11:26 AM

    HAHAHAHA, brilliant mate, one of the best comparisons iv’e ever seen Lad, killed myself laughing

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  • listie

    Sep 20, 2010 at 12:05 PM

    Comment #38

    Shay was a wonderful servant to us during his time, but when he left it did leave me with a bitter taste in my mouth, left for footballing reasons, sorry no. Lets not forget the injury but he flew through the medical at Manc C. Would I want him back, my head says yes, he is an awsome keeper, that is in no doubt, my heart says no.

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  • WesJameson

    Sep 20, 2010 at 12:05 PM

    Comment #39

    @ balubas1 // Sep 20, 2010 at 11:05 AM

    He left BEFORE WE WERE RELEGATED D!ckhe@d………. answer me this…. Why didn’t he leave at the END OF THE F@#$ing season??

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  • Rotonda heights

    Sep 20, 2010 at 12:05 PM

    Comment #40

    Given’s ego means he wouldn’t be happy to be number 2 to krul. If Given came back and replaced krul I would be absolutely sickened by it. Hart has moved ahead on merit at city and krul has waited patiently for a break. We need a good number 2, but given isn’t that man.

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