After all the fuss about Andy Carroll getting a full England call-up, he has been left out – so why was he not included in the England U-21 squad?
Andy Carroll – left out of full England and U21 squads
33 year-old Bolton Wanderers striker Kevin Davies has been picked by England for the first time, a week after admitting he had given up all hope of representing his country. Maybe that’s what got him in.
Carroll had been included in Fabio Capello’s provisional 30-man squad after an impressive start to the Premier League season, so why he has been left out, we have no idea.
Andy Carroll is surely the future for England and not Kevin Davies, although Kevin should have been playing for England years ago, instead of inept players like Emile Heskey – at least Kevin scores goals.
Emile scored 7 goals in 62 appearances for England, and that would have been great if he had been a right back – but he’s a striker for heavens sakes.
Fabio Capello’s has even recalled goalkeeper Robert Green and why that is the case – again we have no idea – we are completely mystified.
We have nothing personal against Green the man – nothing at all – in fact he has shown tremendous personal courage since his England mistake. But surely Robert’s last game for England was when he threw the ball into the net against the USA – if it’s not then it should be.
The squad selection is either inept – or it shows just how poor the up-and-coming England players are – we think it’s the former.
The only good youngster selected is 18 year-old Jack Wilshere, who has been playing very well for Arsenal and is England’s future, but there are other youngsters who should have made the squad, which is full of the same old players, with the emphasis on old.
After the performance of some of these players in South Africa, other players should have been given their chance – if not now – when?
The England squad for the European Championship qualifier against Montenegro on Tuesday, October 12th is:
Ben Foster (Birmingham City), Robert Green (West Ham United), Joe Hart (Manchester City); Ashley Cole (Chelsea), Phil Jagielka (Everton), Glen Johnson (Liverpool), Rio Ferdinand (Manchester United), Joleon Lescott (Manchester City), John Terry (Chelsea), Stephen Warnock (Aston Villa); Gareth Barry (Manchester City), Joe Cole (Liverpool), Steven Gerrard (Liverpool), Tom Huddlestone (Tottenham Hotspur), Adam Johnson (Manchester City), Aaron Lennon (Tottenham Hotspur), Jack Wilshere (Arsenal), Shaun Wright-Phillips (Manchester City), Ashley Young (Aston Villa); Darren Bent (Sunderland), Peter Crouch (Tottenham Hotspur), Kevin Davies (Bolton), Wayne Rooney (Manchester United).
61 comments so far
ilovetoon
Oct 4, 2010 at 5:55 PM
Comment #1capello never seizes to amaze us. He wouldnt know what to do if it was tattooed on his arm.
Howay The Lads
Oct 4, 2010 at 5:56 PM
Comment #2The average age of that team is over 28 years old. By the next major tournament that’ll be over 30 and by the next World Cup over 32.
Compare this to the best team in the world’s last squad, which had an average age of 25 and a half. Nearly three full years younger than England’s. Coincidence? I think not.
Before the WC I liked Capello. During it I liked Capello. After it I liked Capello. I thought it was definitely the players’ fault we went out.
BUT if Capello is not willing to bring in youth – not new players – YOUTH players then he doesn’t deserve the job.
Carroll, Wilshere, Sturridge, Rodwell, Gibbs, Dawson and even Jarvis should be being primed for action at the Euros to get a bit of tournament experience for the next WC.
So why are none of them in the squad?
Cheick Mate
Oct 4, 2010 at 5:57 PM
Comment #3Hi lads and lasses, if you havent already, please write a good will message for Hatem Ben Arfa in one of these 2 links.
The messages will be read and collected soon and sent to the club and Ben Arfa personally.
Cheers.
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/newcastle-united/nufc-news//tm_headline=send-your-message-of-support-to-hatem-ben-arfa%26method=full%26objectid=27398243%26siteid=72703-name_page.html
http://www.blogonthetyne.co.uk/2010/10/abh-on-hba.html#more
ilovetoon
Oct 4, 2010 at 6:11 PM
Comment #4Post man pat, fails to deliver again. surprise surprise. He’s as tactically aware as a 3 yrs old. I’m surprised he hasnt played rooney in goal and Hart as a supporting striker. MUUUUUPETTT.
perch
Oct 4, 2010 at 6:12 PM
Comment #5http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?HBA001&1 !!! sign plz
CT
Oct 4, 2010 at 6:17 PM
Comment #6Phsyco didn`t believe Carrol`s ankle injury last time CH pulled him from the squad and has spat his dummy out, as if I give a toss about England! Capello`s lost the plot anyway, want`s out wi his £40 mill compo, screw it up and get sacked but he has the FA by the nuts!! Can`t afford to sack him! Idiots the lot of them!
Oleg G
Oct 4, 2010 at 6:18 PM
Comment #7http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2010/10/04/send-your-message-of-support-to-hatem-ben-arfa-72703-27398243/
Send your message of support to Hatem Ben Arfa!!!
SBBrit
Oct 4, 2010 at 6:18 PM
Comment #8Less time playing for england means more time fit for Nufc, not gonna complain one bit.
MacToon
Oct 4, 2010 at 6:23 PM
Comment #9Apparantly Pearce wasn’t happy about Carroll not playing last time around for the under 21 qualifyer, wonder if it’s something to do with that or maybe he isn’t 100%. Anyway, less chance of him getting injured then!
As for Arfa, petition signed and as some of the comments say on there, there has to be something done about wreckless tackling like that, there’s been too many incidents over the last few seasons and the FA should act NOW!
ilovetoon
Oct 4, 2010 at 6:34 PM
Comment #10de jong went for his best foot too….what does that that mean guys? HBA rarely even touches the ball with his right…
alex84
Oct 4, 2010 at 6:50 PM
Comment #11i think it would be cool if there was big get well soon banner for HBA at the next home game, just to let him no wat he means to the fans and club!
GeordieGerman
Oct 4, 2010 at 6:51 PM
Comment #12I think it’s dead easy. The FA should be able to view the incident after a match and when intent is seen the player should be banned as long as the injured player is out. Whether it be days, weeks or life and the offending players club should be made to pay all medical costs.
GeordieGerman
Oct 4, 2010 at 6:55 PM
Comment #13alex84, Good Idea. But in french.
Trouver Sain Sous peu Ben Arfa
I think.
Kana
Oct 4, 2010 at 6:57 PM
Comment #14he left out the u21 square due to his slightly injury and virus, when Capello admitted that he was in the provisional 30-man squad on Thursday Pearce felt unhappy again and made an ‘amazing bust-up’…?
Best wishes for Ben Arfa
alex84
Oct 4, 2010 at 7:09 PM
Comment #15geordiegerman – your right french would be better.
show him what he means to the club, its a good sign that he is being treated here!
i think joey brton should get his brother to hunt down De Jong and axe him!
GeordieGerman
Oct 4, 2010 at 7:15 PM
Comment #16alex84, Naa mate, we’re better than that. Wouldn’t sink so low. I believe in the old adage “what goes around comes around”.
alex84
Oct 4, 2010 at 7:19 PM
Comment #17yeah fair comment.
Nolan96
Oct 4, 2010 at 7:26 PM
Comment #18Capello is a hypocrite…nuff said
davis_toons
Oct 4, 2010 at 7:27 PM
Comment #19Just look at this video. Tell your views
.“I can’t honestly say there was real malice in the challenge, but it didn’t need to be made.”
This word from CH …Seem to be the same case as well for this incident.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eyA1Po5TQo&feature=related&1&fmt=18
Howay The Lads
Oct 4, 2010 at 7:38 PM
Comment #20“i think joey brton should get his brother to hunt down De Jong and axe him!”
Bit harsh 😆
If it was anyone else I’d tell you to not make such stupid comments, but I’ll forgive you that 😉
Great idea about the banner. I always feel we should have more banners around the ground. Imagine having loads of different banners in the Gallowgate before the game. It would be like the Kop, which anyone has to admit looks bloody impressive!
GeordieGerman
Oct 4, 2010 at 7:42 PM
Comment #21What goes around comes around has started. Dutch press up in arms and De Jong thrown out of the Dutch team. Not much but it’s a start.
Gilesy
Oct 4, 2010 at 7:43 PM
Comment #22Personally, I’m glad Carroll has been left out, two seahorses beat three lions any time. No-one seems to function at their best when playing for England and with Carroll still ‘developing’ placing the pressure of the nation on his shoulders could have a negative effect.
Likewise I think playing a second striker alongside Carroll from time to time (especially at home) could alleviate the pressure of expectation that he brought upon himself after banging in three against Villa.
GeordieGerman
Oct 4, 2010 at 7:46 PM
Comment #23Howay The Lads, What would be really good is, Ben Arfa being wheeled or limping onto the bitch so he could take a standing ovation before the kick off at SJP. Now that would buck him up.
Warwick Hunt
Oct 4, 2010 at 8:10 PM
Comment #24http://www.imscouting.com/global-news-article/Holland-drop-Manchester-Citys-Nigel-De-Jong-for-breaking-Hatem-Ben-Arfas-leg-/11088/
IrishGeordie95
Oct 4, 2010 at 8:14 PM
Comment #25Yeh we should defo put up a banner for ben arfa:)
skysports will jizz in their pants if it happens:) and will bring real media interest to wot actually happened and hopefully push the FA to do something
Get well soon Arfa:D HWTL
davis_toons
Oct 4, 2010 at 8:39 PM
Comment #26Money makes the world goes round esp in this league
Flop
Oct 4, 2010 at 8:39 PM
Comment #27It’s been over 24 hours but I still can’t see how it is deemed a fair challenge, to call it excessive would be putting it mildly.
When Tiote made de Jong cower like a girl it made my day. He was fantastic throughout the game, he’s proving to be an excellent acquisition. I was going to get Ben Arfa on the back of my shirt but Tiote has won me over.
And I hope Jonas goes on to play like that game after game, worked tirelessly and if any other player had finished like that Sky Sports would be wetting themselves over the replays.
Any news on Colo? I was impressed by Campbell, saw him play for the reserves and was a little worried but he did well yesterday.
Get well Hatem HWTL!!!
alex84
Oct 4, 2010 at 8:48 PM
Comment #28yeah a banner would be great…
yeah maybe the axe comment was abit much, he will get his…all in good time!
davis_toons
Oct 4, 2010 at 8:59 PM
Comment #29I hope AC can give him an elbow in mid-air when we meet again at SJP!!!
GeordieGerman
Oct 4, 2010 at 9:11 PM
Comment #30davis_toons, I don’t even think he will be playing at SJP. He’ll probably be injured unfit or maybe just plain scared.
dave 1961
Oct 4, 2010 at 9:20 PM
Comment #31I’m sure someone could take care of the monkee de jong he’s the only black I can claim to hate I bet £500 could see him buried
GeordieToon89
Oct 4, 2010 at 9:23 PM
Comment #32does anyone know how or wher i could organise a huuge banner? i quite like the idea yous have said and i want to look into it nice big 40ft banner with get well soon ben arfa in french and the english meanin nxt to it so the stewards dont rag it off wa ha =] let me no please if yous no anything
Turkish Magpie
Oct 4, 2010 at 9:55 PM
Comment #33Why not get in touch with the club? Via website i’m sure theres details.
Or how about the NUST?
or even another blog such as eds or something like Newcastle United mad
baro
Oct 4, 2010 at 9:58 PM
Comment #34Seriously ROBERT GREEN!!! Got called up!!! LOL!! Your having a laugh Capello!! 🙂
baro
Oct 4, 2010 at 9:59 PM
Comment #35Now that Carroll didn’t get called up I’m sure he will work really hard to get back on form and smash some goals into the net!
GeordieToon89
Oct 4, 2010 at 10:03 PM
Comment #36a will do al email them either tonight or tomorrow am sure they’l be able to set me up with something. thanks bud
Hatem Ben Arfa
Oct 4, 2010 at 10:06 PM
Comment #37GeordieToon89 // Oct 4, 2010 at 9:23 PM
does anyone know how or wher i could organise a huuge banner? i quite like the idea yous have said and i want to look into it nice big 40ft banner with get well soon ben arfa in french and the english meanin nxt to it so the stewards dont rag it off wa ha =] let me no please if yous no anything
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http://www.thebannerpeople.com/ ? 😉
alex84
Oct 4, 2010 at 10:09 PM
Comment #38be great if this banner idea works out, hopefully HBA will be at the ground to see it
Thump
Oct 4, 2010 at 10:35 PM
Comment #39French would be “Bon rétablissement dés, Ben Arfa”. That directly translates to “Get well soon, Ben Arfa” (or is it “recover well”? idk I can’t remember much French).
Lads, you’re all daft with the expensive things – give the bedsheet brigade a ring 😉
Honestly though, I’d put a tenner towards that.
Thump
Oct 4, 2010 at 10:36 PM
Comment #40Actually, get in touch with the Ultras, iirc they get deals for their banners.
Oh, and 40 foot might be a bit too much lol