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One More Strike And Carroll Should Be Kicked Out Of Newcastle

6:46 pm, Monday, October 18th, 2010 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 45 Comments

As we reported this morning Andy Carroll, Newcastle’s England under-21 international, was in front of magistrates again this morning.

Andy Carroll - it’s a weak man who attacks a woman

Andy was granted bail today, but only on condition that he moved in to live with Newcastle captain Kevin Nolan,  when he appeared at Tynedale Magistrates’ Court in Hexham, Northumberland, this morning, after being arrested in Ponteland on Sunday.

Carroll was formally charged with assaulting his former girlfriend Laurie Henderson at her home, and it’s not the first time he’s been accused of attacking a woman.  There was a similar charge back on 14th September, 2008, when he was accused of assaulting a woman in the Newcastle City center at Pudding Chare, just off the Bigg Market, and in fact this is now his third official charge of assault.

He is due to appear next Monday for his trial on assault and occasioning bodily harm charges in a Newcastle night club last year, and that case is due to be heard in Newcastle next Monday, so this will hardly assist that case, will it?

The hearing this morning lasted about an hour and he will now live with the Newcastle captain Kevin Nolan in his home in Ponteland, where a number of the Newcastle players reside.  And Carroll  has denied the offense, claiming it was self-defense (against a woman?),   and the case has been adjourned until January 10th next year, which means he will have at least another six months of court appearances, which we hoped would all be over next Monday.

Carroll gave his address as the Jesmond Dene Hotel in Newcastle.

We had all hoped these altercations with Andy would have been put behind him by now but this brings up very serious doubts about the character of the 21 year-old.  And two of the offenses have been against women, and we’re not sure if it’s the same woman, but it would appear that Andy has problems with his anger, but it’s a very weak man who attacks woman.

And of course in March of this year, he broke Newcastle team-mate Steven Taylor’s jaw, in another angry altercation.  We already have Joey Barton at the club, who is the picture boy of what anger can do to a football career, although it seems like Joey has rehabilitated himself over the last year or so.

Joey should sit down with Carroll and explain to him how easy it is for footballers in the public eye is to wreck their football careers, before they even get going.

Andy is a good player, and could become a great player, but if he cannot control himself in his private life he can simply kiss goodbye to having any future success in football.  And it will be another case of wasted talent.  He has let not only himself down by this, but Newcastle manager Chris Hughton and all those at the Tyneside club who have supported him over the last couple of years.

We were always willing to give Andy the benefit of the doubt up until now, but it’s four different altercations over the last few years if  the one that was quickly hushed up by the club (with Steven Taylor)  in March is included.

This is very serious – make no mistake about that – and Andy is on probation at the Newcastle club – or he should be.

We don’t care how good he is – if Andy  cannot control himself from attacking people – and woman at that – he should not be on Newcastle’s books.

Comments welcome.



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45 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Thump // Oct 18, 2010 at 6:54 PM

    Too much, too young, too fast.

  • 2 Howay The Lads // Oct 18, 2010 at 6:55 PM

    Ed, I’m not saying he’s done it or not, but seriously, he’s not been convicted of anything yet.

    He hasn’t been charged of glassing someone yet.
    He hasn’t been charged of hitting this lass yet.
    We don’t have a clue what went on with Taylor.

    STOP JUMPING TO CONCLUSIONS.

    Obviously >>IF<< he is guilty of glassing someone and hitting this girl then he should be sold.

    If he's not then we move on and forget it. Simple really

  • 3 Thump // Oct 18, 2010 at 6:56 PM

    Actually Ed, this entire post comes across as very sexist. I don’t agree with a man hitting a woman but…

    “And Carroll has denied the offense, claiming it was self-defense (against a woman?)”

    Really? Sorry but if a lass is going batshit on me I’m not going to stand and take it. Don’t get me wrong, I’m certainly not going to break my hand on her jaw either but the point remains.

  • 4 Thump // Oct 18, 2010 at 6:57 PM

    Oh there’s no doubt he glassed that lad, HTL. I’ve heard some very nasty rumours in regards to that which stem from out of court settlements to bribery and much more.

  • 5 Howay The Lads // Oct 18, 2010 at 7:01 PM

    Yeah, I’m not denying he didn’t, but if he’s not convicted it surely means he did it under circumstances that permitted it.

    Same with the girl, as you say, if she’s got a gun to your head and the only way to stop her is hitting her, I’m afraid, for the greater good, you have to do it.

  • 6 Rotonda heights // Oct 18, 2010 at 7:04 PM

    Money talks, morals walk. NUFC will never deal with anything like this in the right way. They set a precedent with Barton.

    HTL
    Jumping to conclusions !!!!! Would he have to kill someone to actually spark some sort of response.

  • 7 GeordieGerman // Oct 18, 2010 at 7:10 PM

    Self defence against a woman? A striker with no pace? He couldn’t run away? Soft bastard woman beater.

    That, gentlemen is from a Geordie. Just wait till the Mackems come on.

  • 8 GeordieDan // Oct 18, 2010 at 7:10 PM

    Woah, Woah, Woah!

    IF Carroll is guilty of hitting his lass and that’s IF, then he deserves to be punished, BIG TIME. However he will certainly go to jail now for the numerous occassions he has committed assault.

    But to kick him clean out of the club and straight in to the opening arms of another Premier league club (which you all know WILL happen) regardless of the charges when he gets out you will all be crying that we let go a local player with his talent-yes you will.

    My view is that he will now go to jail and feel like the biggest w*****r the world has ever known for c*ocking up his chance at being the NUFC number 9-his dream since being a toddler.

    Now if that doesn’t act as rehab to his stupid behaviour then nothing will!

    Hell, if most of us have now give Barton a 2nd, 3rd, 4th….chance then Carroll has to get another to see if it has finally hit home he can’t be a childish moron who goes around belting people when he is a role-model to so many.

    He has been a fool but don’t do be fools yourselves and bite your nose off to spite your faces. If he came back and smashed a hat-trick past us playing in a Chelsea/Man U shirt you’d all be as pi**ed off as me!

  • 9 stuart no9 // Oct 18, 2010 at 7:12 PM

    ed, ” moving into KN house in ponteland where a number of the players reside” whats he got a B&B ? as for carroll,may as well be locked up for what good he is on the pitch, ( lately).

  • 10 Howay The Lads // Oct 18, 2010 at 7:13 PM

    Rotonda, this is the thing. People read it in papers and on here et cetera, so they think it must be true.

    Was the propaganda used in 1930′s Germany true? Everything written about the Jews, was that true?

    Of course not.

    Just because it’s commented on in the press doesn’t mean it’s true – or at least not to the extent believed.

    I think he did glass the guy, but, if he’s found not guilty, I have no doubt in my mind that he’ll have done it under ‘last option’ circumstances.

    If he’s found guilty of both then I’ll have no doubt in my mind that he did them under circumstances where there were other options.

    If the second is the case then sell him

  • 11 Howay The Lads // Oct 18, 2010 at 7:14 PM

    Rotonda, this is the thing. People read it in papers and on here et cetera, so they think it must be true.

    Was the propaganda used in 1930′s Germany true? Everything written about the minorities, was that true?

    Of course not.

    Just because it’s commented on in the press doesn’t mean it’s true – or at least not to the extent believed.

    I think he did glass the guy, but, if he’s found not guilty, I have no doubt in my mind that he’ll have done it under ‘last option’ circumstances.

    If he’s found guilty of both then I’ll have no doubt in my mind that he did them under circumstances where there were other options.

    If the second is the case then sell him

  • 12 GeordieToon89 // Oct 18, 2010 at 7:14 PM

    he has been charged with glassing tht person thats whyy he now has to go to crown court.. hes been charged with assaulting this laurie henderson and has to go to court on 10th jan.. taylor didnt press charges cos obv was his own fault he got sparked out thts why he didnt get charged for tht one.. he(andy carroll) is just a twat who if this is true deserves everything he gets and should get locked up with a beast to show him whos boss

  • 13 GeordieGerman // Oct 18, 2010 at 7:14 PM

    Howay The Lads, you don’t hit a woman if she has a gun to your head…

    … You effin duck. There is no excuse for hitting a woman. Believe me I saw my pig of a Dad do it often enough.

  • 14 jimiley // Oct 18, 2010 at 7:16 PM

    Andy has been convicted of nowt. Instead of sniping at the guy we should be supporting him. He claims he did not smash a bottle over a guy’s head and he wacked the girl in self defence. The Taylor broken jaw story is rumour. Andy has not had any chances because he is not guilty. No jury in the Toon will convict him of anything.
    A more pressing concern is the good job Hoots is doing or so the owner of this blogg has claimed all season. Hoots is two defeats away from the sack. One point from nine at home against Blackpool, Stoke and Wigan is marching towards the scaffold in any club’s language. He will cost the fat man little to sack as he pays him peanuts. Prediction? Hoots will be gone by Xmas.

  • 15 GeordieToon89 // Oct 18, 2010 at 7:19 PM

    he just needs to chill out and take a moment to realise that he can become a hero if he settles down, take a leaf out of joeys books, hes only a young lad and will hopefully learn from this and his other mishaps

  • 16 GeordieGerman // Oct 18, 2010 at 7:19 PM

    GeordieDan, and just how many women has Barton beat up? At his present form Carroll is no more than a bloody good Championship striker.

  • 17 Howay The Lads // Oct 18, 2010 at 7:20 PM

    GeordieGerman, what part of: “the only way to stop her is hitting her” don’t you understand?

  • 18 Turkish Magpie // Oct 18, 2010 at 7:21 PM

    On a lighter note…..

    I think he deserves his punishment and should respect the courts views.

    I mean living with Kevin Nolan must be hell! :D

  • 19 GeordieGerman // Oct 18, 2010 at 7:26 PM

    Howay The Lads, I think it’s the “hitting her” part.

  • 20 ToonAndy // Oct 18, 2010 at 7:26 PM

    “You don’t hit a woman if she has a gun to your head”…

    Whatt??? This is outrageous… I’ve seen tough girls beat up soft lads before… literally knocking them unconcious and still going… What would a male lion do if a female lion attacked him?? He’d defend himself!…

    This is to an extreme but still… I don’t believe in hitting a woman, but as HTL said… If shes trying to punch my head off… i’m not gona stand there and let her do it!

  • 21 Toon XI // Oct 18, 2010 at 7:26 PM

    One incident…innocent until proven guilty. Four incidents…sorry lads, it’s a trend.

    I fear the lad has an anger issue to say the least. He needs to spend time in the ‘clink’. It’ll do his arrogant a$$ some good. I hope for his own sake he changes his ways not just in his personal life but also less attitude (complaining) on the pitch.

  • 22 GeordieToon89 // Oct 18, 2010 at 7:28 PM

    the way our home form is going then a wouldnt be so suprised if he was gone by xmas, although i admire the job hes done for us and i will always back him 110% for what he has done for us, he really needs to work on his tactics though and which subs he uses as they normally never have any effect and 4-5-1 at home to the likes of blackpool and stoke is really bad going

  • 23 Rexn // Oct 18, 2010 at 7:29 PM

    Innocent until proven guilty.

    Young Andy is a fortunate young man in being in an industry that affords 2nd chances. He is also unfortunate in being in the spotlight.

    If he is guilty of these offences, let us hope that he takes his opportunity to become a role model for other offenders and put his career back on track.

  • 24 GeordieGerman // Oct 18, 2010 at 7:35 PM

    Toon XI, well said.

    ToonAndy, What’s up? You an amputee? You can’t walk or run away? You’re talking about a woman, who probably didn’t have a gun pointing at Carrolls head. Probably Carroll got a knock back when he was expecting a bit of sex with the ex.

  • 25 GeordieGerman // Oct 18, 2010 at 7:48 PM

    Another thing. Carroll has made himself, NUFC and the fans a laughing stock. Just wait till the tabloids come out tonight/tomorrow. This is called bringing the club into disrepute and I am (for one peed off with it).

  • 26 GeordieToon89 // Oct 18, 2010 at 8:01 PM

    she mighta told him stevie taylor was a bigger proportioned lad ha.!

  • 27 Toon XI // Oct 18, 2010 at 8:02 PM

    GG,

    Just read that blurb you wrote about your son. I think our #9 has some growing up to do. Sorry to hear that about Saturday’s post match activities.

  • 28 leedodd // Oct 18, 2010 at 8:05 PM

    Right !!!! Enough is Enough I think Andy has Been Tucked Up Here’ We should be Behind Him Not Stabbing Him In The Back !!!! Half of the ideots On Here Are Bloody Sunderland Supporters !!!!! Andy Were all Behind You !!!!! If Your Looking on Here My Son Chin Up !!!! I have Had it were Women Get Drunk Start Hitting Out Gobbing Off and Then They say They have Been Hit When What They really don,t Remember is They Fell over as there so Bloody Drunk. and Think oh Andy Carroll New contract Give me Money !!!!! He wont Go Down .

  • 29 GeordieDan // Oct 18, 2010 at 8:09 PM

    Geordie German>

    I think anyone who hits a lass is a coward and nothing else, especially a 6’5 athlete and its disgraceful.

    If u’d read what I said I think he completely deserves to go to jail for what he’s done and never once mentioned he should be let off with it!

    I just would really hope that if it will actually shock him into changing his mentality when he does go to jail and make him realise what a childish, cowardly moron he’ been.

    If it does then he should perhaps be given another FOOTBALLING chance and NOT necessarily a chance to show his true character, if he has indeed committed assault 4 times (that we know about), then we already know from that what his character truly is at the minute.

    Read properly before you have a dig next time!

  • 30 GeordieGerman // Oct 18, 2010 at 8:36 PM

    Wait a minute. I was one of those who said that Carroll hadn’t earned the No. 9 shirt. he did well in the championship, but if Shola had remained fit would he have been the leading goal scorer? I also had the feeling that Hoots give it to him in the hope that the responsibility of wearing it would change/make Andy into a responsible person. How does Andy return the favour? He shat on Chris. This actions are, whether, true or not, a kick in the balls for Chris. The proof of this you will see in the next couple of games.

  • 31 GeordieGerman // Oct 18, 2010 at 8:39 PM

    This actions are* These actions are

  • 32 gorskino10 // Oct 18, 2010 at 8:42 PM

    Ed you wrote this like you didnt know about this, it happened ages ago and has took alot of time to get to the courts so why all this UPRISE speach near the end, whatever he does off the field shouldnt affect his onfield, who cares it all depends on the other person too, tbh ive seen more women hitting men these days than the other way around, on every Jeremy Kyle episode everyone has a men/women hitting his/her partner. im not saying its right or wrong but it happens and who cares aslong as he plays well for us!

  • 33 baro // Oct 18, 2010 at 8:56 PM

    We can’t afford to loose our best player Andy Carroll do to stupidity. Someone has to teach him to stay out of trouble. Perhaps bring Shearer in as our #2 behind Hughton. Shearer knows everything obviously and is the best striker ever. He can teach him on the field and off the field. He is too young and needs to stay out of trouble!

  • 34 GeordieGerman // Oct 18, 2010 at 9:00 PM

    gorskino10, I care, that’s who. How can you condone woman beating? Me dad was a good worker, so it was alright for him to beat up on his wife and kids? Foock off man… ! Before anyone says it. Yeah I do carry a grudge.

  • 35 N.Ireland Mag // Oct 18, 2010 at 10:06 PM

    I think you guys have to realise that he has been charged with assault, not assault and battery. (Unless the journalists are not reporting accurately)

    If he was charged with only assault he hasn’t actually laid a hand on the woman. Instead he has threatened her in some way to make her fear physical violence from him. Depending on how she was acting towards Carroll when he threatened her, self defence/private defence is a reasonable plea.

  • 36 gorskino10 // Oct 18, 2010 at 11:01 PM

    German i said i dont say its right or wrong to hit women i simply stated it is more common these days, All i care about is him in the NUFC shirt, footballers these days do silly things over and over, Ashley cole cheating multiple times on his wife, Terry sleeping with his mates GF, Benzema and Ribery had sex with multiple prostitutes on many occasions a few being under the legal age but you dont see Bayern or Real of any talk of sacking the player unlike what Ed has said in the topic (one last chance then getting kicked off)

  • 37 nicolnj // Oct 19, 2010 at 1:52 AM

    hey what’s wrong with hitting a girl? I hit girls quite often. I hit girl at the bus, I hit girl on the street. They are just too gorgeous..lol

  • 38 Rotonda heights // Oct 19, 2010 at 8:03 AM

    As someone said one offence you give the benefit. But Lee Dodd I think you are the idiot because I make that 5 incidents now (N’Zogbia, Taylor, his girlfriend, the guy he glassed and his girl friend again) and that’s only the ones we know about.

    When he went on loan to Preston a couple of years back, everyone said Carroll he had a serious attitude problem. Basically he’s a bully and a thug, always mouthing off at refs and he’s the worst kind of example of a product of todays society.

    Look at his anti social behaviour now while he’s on silly money and imagine what he would be doing if he wasn’t a footballer.

    Some of us are discerning enough to say he’s stupid and no we shouldn’t be backing him just because he’s one of our players and a geordie. Somewhere down the line, stop blaming other people and take responsibility for once.

  • 39 Ericles // Oct 19, 2010 at 9:02 AM

    We have await the court outcome – especially as he has pleaded not guilty. Nonetheless there does seem to be a recurring pattern to Carroll’s behaviour off the pitch. It seems he is not mature enough to handle either his drink or his women (or in the case of women it looks like manhandle or mishandle?). Take him out of the limelight CH. After all it looks like Capello has taken him out of the spotlight.

  • 40 CT // Oct 19, 2010 at 9:03 AM

    How can you condone this, self defence??? what was he doing at ex girlfriends house @4.30am anyway? Get rid. Have a punt on Leeds Utd LUCIANO BECCHIO, 6ft 2ins, Argentinian, Technically good, scores goals and physically strong, schooled in Barca reserves and single handidly destroyed Boro at the weekend. Would he fancy playing with Colo and Jonas in prem?? Maybe!

  • 41 DannyboyNUFC // Oct 19, 2010 at 9:10 AM

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3185857/Toon-star-beat-me-after-sex-with-pal.html

  • 42 G // Oct 19, 2010 at 9:17 AM

    Many many years ago I used to go out with a girl, who was the womens British Kickboxing champion (She was working on the door of a club, in the act of throwing me out, so I cheekily asked for her number, and got it!). Anyway, she was hard as a coffin nail, and if she wanted too, I’m sure she could have given me quite a dig, and I’m no soft lad. She did once get very aggressive with me, and implied violence. I simply grabbed her wrists, swung her round onto the floor and sat on her and reasoned with her until she had calmed down. There was no assault, there was no violence, and there was none of this cowardly hitting women. If he has hit a girl, then he needs to get his come uppance. I am all for the courts to settle this one though, innocent until proven guilty.

  • 43 J88 // Oct 19, 2010 at 11:47 AM

    If he has beat up this girl take the number 9 off him and feed him to the wolves, mick mccarthy look like he needs a meal, no excuse for it especially now hes in the limelight and a role model for kids.
    However
    Nothin like an ex girlfriend catching you having it off with her mate to go mental at you, with the added motive of upcoming model wanting publicity and revenge. she already looks to be cashing in with the sun
    Courts will bring out facts on which his fate will hang, one hand a potential england and toon star other a disgraced woman beating lout

  • 44 chris_g // Oct 19, 2010 at 12:07 PM

    N.Ireland Mag // Oct 18, 2010 at 10:06 PM

    I think you guys have to realise that he has been charged with assault, not assault and battery. (Unless the journalists are not reporting accurately)

    If he was charged with only assault he hasn’t actually laid a hand on the woman. Instead he has threatened her in some way to make her fear physical violence from him….

    ——-

    The Reuters report that I read stated that the girl ‘was found to have suffered a minor head injury’, so this would appear to be a case of assault AND battery
    http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE69H1CM20101018

  • 45 Davies // Oct 19, 2010 at 1:01 PM

    I would never defend anyone who simply hits women, however, if anyone hits me, they can expect to be hit back, man or woman (unless they knock me out). I went to college with a girl who used to think it was funny to kick men in the nuts when she was out on the piss and not a single person offered her any sympathy when she finally got punched in the face for it.

    As for this incident, we are in possession of very few facts. I think we should take the club’s position and say nothing more on the matter until more is known.

    Ed, don’t jump the gun, my friend, too little is known about this incident to judge. Also, try to remember that we stood by Barton, so we have to stand by Carroll. He could yet learn to knuckle down and stop being an arse. Look at how Ryan Giggs settled down after smacking Davina Taylor in the face in a night club.




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